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| 00:29.56 | mefistofeles | asarch: I don't think it would be the same session compared to GNOME, since KDE doesn't really have a way to sync with these accounts, as far as I know |
| 00:30.01 | mefistofeles | and that's maybe by design |
| 00:30.25 | asarch | I see |
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| 00:32.11 | mefistofeles | asarch: now, to disable kde wallet, that's another thing, you can do that... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE_Wallet#Disable_KWallet |
| 00:33.20 | asarch | Bingo! |
| 00:33.23 | asarch | Thank you! |
| 00:33.30 | asarch | Thank you very much mefistofeles :-) |
| 00:35.14 | mefistofeles | asarch: no problem |
| 00:35.22 | asarch | :-) |
| 00:36.09 | mefistofeles | imho it seems kind of silly that we don't get to choose that from the system settings, but who knows why is that the case... |
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| 02:30.23 | xenoterracide | https://i.imgur.com/ixmih04.png so, in Opera, it appears that when I lose focus, my font goes to garbage, oddly, I could not snapshot this garbage with spectacle, so I installed flameshot to get it |
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| 02:30.43 | xenoterracide | any idea's? |
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| 04:25.26 | JoannaGibson | Hi - this is Joanna with Mobile Online Entertainment! Have you played online slots before? Even if you haven't, why not give it a try? I can start you off with some free credits, what do you have to lose? Just text âª559-424-0043⬠to get started! |
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| 14:27.06 | sponge[m] | various apps refuse to open links in firefox even though the firefox icon starts bouncing next to my mouse as an indicator that it should be opening. kde-open5 from terminal also opens links correctly. what is the best way to troubleshoot this? |
| 14:28.41 | sponge[m] | seems it is still related to firefox since when i swap the default app to chrome my mail app opens links correctly. it is still odd that it's not consistent, because some apps do open the links with firefox as well |
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| 14:41.32 | Warxcell | hello, my desktop just freezed again :) this is the last log from plasmashell https://pastebin.com/YZw7rQUN |
| 14:42.14 | Warxcell | basically apps responds. I can switch (with Alt+TAB) between them, I have empty tooltip in the middle of my screen, and toolbars are not responding at all. |
| 14:46.43 | Warxcell | any ideas? :( |
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| 14:54.03 | JanKusanagi | that's probably just the plasmashell process that's frozen |
| 14:54.30 | Warxcell | process outputs new logs |
| 14:54.31 | JanKusanagi | maybe try (next time, after you logout or reboot), disabling compositing for a while |
| 14:55.00 | Warxcell | isn't that a bug in KDE ? |
| 14:55.07 | Warxcell | where is the problem? |
| 14:55.29 | Warxcell | how can avoid further freezing? it happens since 1 year, I reboot every week because of that |
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| 14:55.40 | Warxcell | it's very annoying :( |
| 14:55.43 | JanKusanagi | KDE is people, this, if anything, would be a problem in Plasma |
| 14:55.47 | JanKusanagi | >> maybe try (next time, after you logout or reboot), disabling compositing for a while |
| 14:56.05 | Warxcell | and if it's ok, what's next? |
| 14:56.33 | JanKusanagi | well, if the problem disappears with compositing disabled, then the issue is probably faulty graphics drivers |
| 14:56.49 | JanKusanagi | you could also try changing the compositing backend to other OpenGL version or XRender |
| 14:57.09 | Warxcell | also this error just appeared: libkcups: Create-Printer-Subscriptions last error: 1282 invalid file descriptor |
| 14:57.19 | Warxcell | i don't know if it's related or not to freeze |
| 14:58.00 | Warxcell | ok, rebooting now. will disable compositing for 2 weeks to see if problem persists |
| 14:59.09 | JanKusanagi | the CUPS error should not be related, unless that's making the printing plasmoid freeze the whole thing |
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| 15:44.08 | Guest35489 | Anyone alive? |
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| 15:45.50 | Guest35489 | :| |
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| 15:47.43 | Guest35489 | Am i dead? |
| 15:49.24 | Guest35489 | Have anyone seen my bamboo? |
| 15:49.37 | rob0 | you have not said anything of substance, what kind of response did you expect? |
| 15:50.00 | Guest35489 | ? |
| 15:50.23 | rob0 | If you have something to say relevant to #kde , then SAY IT |
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| 15:51.28 | Guest35489 | rob(.)(.)Â Â was that question for me? |
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| 15:53.06 | Guest35489 | Ohh ok, now i understand |
| 15:53.28 | Guest35489 | Happy new year (relevant) |
| 15:54.54 | Guest35489 | Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant Relevant |
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| 15:55.29 | Guest35489 | :) |
| 15:55.47 | Guest35489 | I said everything relevant :) |
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| 16:23.45 | davidv7 | okay i recently upgraded on tumbleweed (5.20.5, 5.78.0 framework), and wayland loads into an empty screen with just a cursor(which can't be moved), Xorg works fine.. how do i debug this |
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| 17:15.00 | zebrag | What is korgac, why is it eating 100% cpu, come on |
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| 18:05.30 | Burek | this is kde, sir |
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| 18:16.37 | jschwart | my plasmashell is not starting anymore, I get these errors when running it in a Konsole: https://schwart6.home.xs4all.nl/plasmashell-error |
| 18:16.50 | jschwart | what could I do to debug further? |
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| 18:35.35 | argonel | jschwart: what distro? |
| 18:35.47 | jschwart | argonel: Parabola |
| 18:35.55 | argonel | thats a new one on me |
| 18:36.32 | jschwart | it's usually nice to me :) |
| 18:36.41 | jschwart | it's based on Arch |
| 18:37.26 | argonel | maybe this will help, although i don't really understand everything they wrote: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/577840/plasmashell-doesnt-start-at-all |
| 18:37.59 | jschwart | yeah I saw that one |
| 18:38.06 | jschwart | but I don't get it either |
| 18:39.53 | argonel | the author may have been talking about kdeclarative, or qt5-declarative, dunno |
| 18:40.27 | jschwart | I tried reinstalling kdeclarative |
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| 18:41.26 | jschwart | reinstalling qt5-declarative doesn't work either |
| 18:41.33 | jschwart | I wish there would be a way to debug this |
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| 18:44.48 | argonel | have you restarted? |
| 18:45.15 | asturm | reinstalling stuff will just replace files |
| 18:45.35 | asturm | I don't know what that would do unless your hard drive were broken |
| 18:46.59 | argonel | "reinstall" sometimes turns out to be "install" in cases where something got removed for no apparent reason |
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| 18:57.04 | argonel | jschwart: do you have qtpaths installed? |
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| 18:59.07 | jschwart | argonel: yes I have it |
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| 18:59.56 | jschwart | it seems there was a broken update |
| 19:00.18 | jschwart | another Parabola user reports this error: kate: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libKF5Parts.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZN3KIO11TransferJob13mimeTypeFoundEPNS_3JobERK7QString |
| 19:00.24 | jschwart | and I get the same when starting kate |
| 19:00.45 | asturm | well, that looks like missing rebuilt packages against a Qt upgrade |
| 19:02.07 | argonel | jschwart: well, ok. i was going to have you check ls `qtpaths --plugin-dir`/plasma/scriptengines |
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| 19:03.08 | jschwart | argonel: that returns plasma_appletscript_declarative.so |
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| 19:04.04 | argonel | which indicates the script engine is installed and its location is known.. so its likely related to the build issue |
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| 19:17.12 | jschwart | argonel: alright, thanks for the info, I will see if I can find more info on who builds this :) |
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| 21:24.57 | Iothes | Hello... |
| 21:27.19 | JanKusanagi | Hi... |
| 21:29.37 | Iothes | Hey again. I came because I wanted to ask, or perhaps also propose something. Do you plan on redesigning some panels? I'm referring to the ones for notifications and such.. I love plasma, I know I can customise it but.. those plain boxes just won't do. Yes, this has to do only with the look and feeling of plasma, not functioning |
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| 21:30.30 | JanKusanagi | not sure what you're talking about, but I *really* wouldn't judge Plasma for the default Breeze themes xDD |
| 21:30.36 | Iothes | It's not a problem. I just see the panel designs on Mac and Windows and I feel like KDE DE (plasma) just stays behind on that aspect |
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| 21:30.47 | Burek | how so? |
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| 21:31.40 | JanKusanagi | Plasma with Oxygen is 27.3 million times prettier than those xD |
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| 21:32.01 | JanKusanagi | Plasma with Breeze is about the same level of uglyness than MSWindows |
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| 21:32.10 | Iothes | So, I was looking at the notifications box. It's not bad , in my opinion. But I just feel that it still lacks something.. |
| 21:32.19 | Burek | lacks what? |
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| 21:32.42 | Iothes | You see that it's plain boxes right? Or is that just me? I don't know.. |
| 21:32.53 | JanKusanagi | what's plain boxes? |
| 21:32.55 | Burek | wdym "plain boxes"? |
| 21:33.05 | Iothes | The notifications panel |
| 21:33.23 | JanKusanagi | there's certainly nothing "plain" about it with the Oxygen syle |
| 21:33.23 | JanKusanagi | style |
| 21:33.40 | Burek | i'm not sure what are you talking about. your opinions and "propositions" are too vague. can you be more specific? |
| 21:33.52 | JanKusanagi | (btw, just so you know, this channel is mostly regular users) |
| 21:34.02 | Iothes | HM perhaps. Maybe I just need to revisit those panels... Oh |
| 21:34.16 | Iothes | Sorry. I'm new to this platform, I didn't realize |
| 21:34.21 | phonecharger | having them in boxes is relatively recent, it used to be a list that became side icons after you clicked on one of them |
| 21:34.52 | Iothes | Ah yes I know that one. |
| 21:35.16 | JanKusanagi | phonecharger: that's the hidden icons in the system tray, not the notifications |
| 21:35.30 | JanKusanagi | unless Iothes is actually talking about the system tray xDD |
| 21:35.33 | phonecharger | oh right |
| 21:35.34 | Iothes | Maybe there have been changes in those panels that I haven't noticed a lot from the last time I used plasma in arch |
| 21:35.58 | Iothes | I don't know how those boxes are actually called. So it could be system tray. |
| 21:36.39 | Iothes | Wait I'll be back. I need to go see what I'm actually talking for |
| 21:36.48 | Burek | which plasma version are you talking about? |
| 21:36.49 | JanKusanagi | if by "boxes" you mean icons from the system tray laid out in a GRID, that's the expanded system tray |
| 21:36.53 | JanKusanagi | not _notifications_ |
| 21:37.30 | Iothes | Yes I was referring to system tray. |
| 21:38.22 | phonecharger | oh lol |
| 21:39.05 | JanKusanagi | I've never actually seen that grid here, with Oxygen |
| 21:39.08 | Iothes | I ,personally, am not hyped with those "boxes". They aren't bad, they are good enough in fact. But comparing them to Mac DE... Ok well, Mac DE is exceptional. |
| 21:39.14 | JanKusanagi | my system tray has always been set to "show all" |
| 21:39.21 | JanKusanagi | so no "expansion" necessary |
| 21:39.47 | phonecharger | how is it on mac? |
| 21:39.49 | JanKusanagi | anyway, you can talk to developers over on #plasma |
| 21:40.10 | Iothes | I will show what I mean... If I can figure out how to send images. Am I allowed to? |
| 21:40.27 | Iothes | Ty! But I should show first perhaps |
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| 21:42.48 | Iothes | So... Can I share link? |
| 21:42.57 | JanKusanagi | sure |
| 21:43.06 | Iothes | https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.teIetge5l5Rg7ggcSiagkwHaEr%26pid%3DApi&f=1 |
| 21:43.14 | Iothes | Yes ik: |
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| 21:44.06 | Iothes | KDE does not work like that... But I do like the design. I don't want KDE to just copy this. But It would be great if KDE reconsidered the tray design |
| 21:44.42 | Burek | if you're willing to contribute https://techbase.kde.org/Contribute |
| 21:44.48 | phonecharger | oh this one, it looks more like widgets. the grid tray in plasma is also used for third party programs, but im guessing you mean for stuff like bluetooth. i like it too tho |
| 21:45.23 | Iothes | I was actually considering to contribute to KDE... When I grow up. Right now I'm a clueless person. I don't know programming |
| 21:46.04 | Iothes | Nah, I also meant the background semi transparent boxes with the curvy edges |
| 21:46.46 | phonecharger | maybe one could implement this as a downloadable widget as well (that contains other widgets) |
| 21:47.20 | Iothes | HM yes. I could try doing that in the future if nothing happens by the time I become (perhaps) a programmer |
| 21:48.23 | Iothes | But... by contribution... You mean I could also contribute designs? Basically I could just design something in Inkscape? |
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| 21:49.51 | phonecharger | sure you can propose something. #kde-vdg btw |
| 21:50.05 | phonecharger | check the topic |
| 21:51.33 | Iothes | Ty so... Should I just ask them to consider redesigning? Or that's futile? Or I should just grow up and contribute? |
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| 21:56.47 | phonecharger | ð¤ its not that you cant talk but it would be more meaningful if it was more specific. im assuming this idea isnt new to them |
| 21:57.28 | Iothes | Hm perhaps. Ok then, I might come back when I get my hands on inkscape |
| 21:58.56 | Iothes | Well then I'll guess I'll be leaving now. Thank you for the useful links. |
| 21:59.08 | Iothes | And the help in general. |
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