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| 08:48.19 | Graypup_ | since upgrading to kde 5.21 the system monitor is going about 4x as fast in the taskbar, which is distracting. I've tried changing the "amount of history to keep" to 180 seconds but it still seems to update the entire chart 2x per second, which is distracting |
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| 08:51.01 | Graypup_ | :( no luck looking through the git logs for changes that could have plausibly affected it |
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| 09:12.22 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I can't use KDE partition manager It just hangs with an unlabeled progress bar at 0% Any idea how to fix this or what's wrong? https://cdn.nuegia.net/11d5e355-0c59-41b9-b8dc-b635e59deb1d/screenshot_036.png |
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| 12:08.22 | sysfs | please add scroll to dialogs. |
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| 12:43.19 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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| 12:53.56 | shtrb | supp rindolf |
| 12:55.42 | rindolf | shtrb: hi |
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| 12:56.50 | shtrb | how's perl ? |
| 12:57.12 | rindolf | shtrb: updated this essay: https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/philosophy/putting-cards-on-the-table-2019-2020/ |
| 12:57.29 | shtrb | someone had told me that we are in 2021 already :) |
| 12:57.47 | rindolf | shtrb: they are planning perl 7 |
| 12:58.09 | shtrb | is outdates as cgi scripts :-( |
| 12:58.10 | rindolf | shtrb: it is a legacy url |
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| 12:59.12 | rindolf | shtrb: and it is Purim this week |
| 12:59.59 | shtrb | Happy Purim |
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| 13:02.42 | rindolf | shtrb: thanks! you too |
| 13:03.43 | rindolf | shtrb: hopefully there will be a scifi con with an open/online lobby |
| 13:04.07 | shtrb | no lockdown for scifi ? |
| 13:04.24 | rindolf | shtrb: an online con |
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| 13:06.48 | rindolf | shtrb: this fb post sparked some discussion: https://twitter.com/shlomif/status/1363440695210635268 |
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| 13:07.29 | shtrb | twitter bad, fediverse good :P |
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| 13:08.02 | shtrb | fb even worse :P |
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| 13:10.54 | rindolf | shtrb: fediverse? |
| 13:11.15 | shtrb | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse |
| 13:13.13 | rindolf | shtrb: oh no - distributed :( |
| 13:15.31 | shtrb | There are many instances, they interact with one and the other for instace you can follow https://mastodon.technology/@kde easily by any other mastadon instance |
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| 13:21.24 | rindolf | shtrb: sounds unreliable and hard to use |
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| 13:27.25 | shtrb | We are working in a distributed solution for ages, you might remember E-Mails , jabber, xmpp (both facebook and google used it at first and even today use it with broken federation and closed source modifications) |
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| 13:44.24 | Burek | it's not hard to use at all, and gives you more "freedom" then, for example, twitter. i used to use mastodon for almost 3 years, and never had any issues with it rindolf |
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| 13:50.18 | Fuchs | problem with mastodon is the reach. It's a niche, and most servers are made up of geeks/nerds of one sort, so instead of twitter where you have echo chambers and bubbles, mastodon sort of is one huge one |
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| 13:50.55 | shtrb | Fuchs, that is not a problem :) |
| 13:51.11 | Fuchs | views differ, I'd say |
| 13:51.36 | None000000 | Why are there so many outdated and duplicated kde apps? |
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| 13:51.58 | Fuchs | None000000: such as? |
| 13:52.13 | None000000 | KFloppy |
| 13:52.17 | shtrb | Fuchs , I had seen some nice cooks and diyers over mastadoon, pleorama and other fediverse instances |
| 13:52.29 | shtrb | None000000, what is the problem with KFloppy ? |
| 13:52.48 | Fuchs | what's the duplicate of kfloppy? |
| 13:53.12 | None000000 | KFloppy is not a dupicate but who uses a floppy today? |
| 13:53.29 | shtrb | me , and any other person who happen to work with IT |
| 13:53.30 | Fuchs | people who aren't you, apparently |
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| 13:54.20 | shtrb | but only with 3.5" over usb :-( |
| 13:55.28 | None000000 | why not use a usb drive? |
| 13:55.29 | Eddi|zuHause | the last person i've seen who professionally used a floppy was a person with an old banking software, where the key stuff was stored on a floppy |
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| 13:56.41 | shtrb | None000000, if that work, don't change is a very important idom in many places |
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| 14:15.57 | shtrb | Fuchs, I think that one of the good parts of fediverse that you could have instances for cooking , for electronics , for foss etc, and you can easily migrate between all. the only down side it does not clearly work when there is no viable DNS |
| 14:16.11 | shtrb | one day everything would would work with GNS |
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| 14:25.20 | shtrb | Is there a keyboard shortcut that can open the virtual keyboard ? |
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| 14:36.57 | dos1 | is it possible to get rid of the border below the inactive window's title bar? |
| 14:37.12 | dos1 | (with breeze) |
| 14:39.40 | shtrb | dos1 can you do a screenshot and explain what you mean please ? |
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| 14:51.39 | dos1 | shtrb: https://dosowisko.net/Screenshot_20210222_155110.png |
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| 14:53.17 | somebody0239843 | Does anybody use KFloppy? |
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| 14:53.39 | somebody0239843 | i think it should be deprecated |
| 14:54.08 | JanKusanagi | right here someone said they use it, like an hour ago |
| 14:54.25 | JanKusanagi | right here, in the last hour, imagine if you actually do a proper survey |
| 14:54.45 | Fuchs | my very best guess would be that this is the same person who maked a ruckus about it earlier |
| 14:54.59 | Fuchs | no idea how kfloppy hurt them, but I'd say it's safe to ignore |
| 14:55.03 | JanKusanagi | seems obvious, yes |
| 14:55.06 | somebody0239843 | but does anyone usef lppy disk's nowadays? |
| 14:55.17 | JanKusanagi | YES, PEOPLE USE THEM |
| 14:55.32 | JanKusanagi | if you don't use them, just ignore this piece of software and move on |
| 14:55.43 | shtrb | somebody0239843, yes , me |
| 14:56.14 | Fuchs | I don't use gamepads and joysticks, I think that kcm should be deprecated. I also don't use printers, throw that one out, too. And the cifs/nfs one, while at it |
| 14:56.23 | Fuchs | aww |
| 14:56.47 | Fuchs | if they come back from a third host, I think I'll start putting them on the nono list |
| 14:56.53 | JanKusanagi | =) |
| 14:56.57 | rob0 | I have an electronic piano, really nice instrument in its day, that has a floppy drive. But no disks nor a computer than can read/write them. |
| 14:57.09 | shtrb | Fuchs, as a cups user , you have a point there , we should have had an open source multi purpse printer (not 3D , ink ! ) |
| 14:57.16 | JanKusanagi | I don't like so-called "smart" phones, I demand they be deprecated NOW! xD |
| 14:57.23 | rob0 | lol |
| 14:57.29 | shtrb | +1 for JanKusanagi |
| 14:57.44 | Fuchs | kde-connect, but for feature phones! |
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| 14:57.51 | Fuchs | transfer mobile provider logos and ringtones |
| 14:58.27 | shtrb | the best ! |
| 14:58.53 | Fuchs | also I should not multitask, "maked", what happene to my English ... |
| 14:59.02 | Fuchs | *happened, for gods sake *goes search coffee* |
| 14:59.10 | shtrb | I wonder If I could find the widget to send ringtones , I have found an old Motorola phone :) |
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| 15:05.50 | Guest89 | https://anna-zinonos-bullied.blogspot.com/2021/02/sharing-my-harassment-experience-from.html |
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| 15:12.36 | rob0 | Guest89, that link seems to require a login. |
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| 15:20.21 | shtrb | guest89 , if you wish people to be able to read the post at least enable it without google auth |
| 15:21.03 | Bitterblue | Why are y'all clicking dodgy links from random spammers? |
| 15:22.17 | JanKusanagi | â |
| 15:22.24 | shtrb | he's right |
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| 16:18.55 | Abhigyan | is anyone here? |
| 16:19.16 | Fuchs | Abhigyan: couple of us, yes |
| 16:19.31 | Abhigyan | @Fuchs, great! |
| 16:19.51 | Fuchs | what can we help you with? |
| 16:20.09 | Abhigyan | I'm not a KDE fan, it's just that my IRC client was feeling lonely. However, I used KDE for more than 2 years. |
| 16:20.38 | Fuchs | there are various social channels on freenode if you like to do something against that loneliness, see /msg alis help list :) |
| 16:20.48 | Abhigyan | Oh thnx! |
| 16:21.48 | Abhigyan | Anyways, I feel bad about IRC. I think IRC is still usable. |
| 16:21.54 | Abhigyan | But people don't use it |
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| 16:22.15 | OutBackDingo | ok, so kde 5.21 seems to overide xmonad wm key bindings, didnt happen inprevious versions |
| 16:22.15 | Fuchs | /lusers disagrees a bit, but yes, many people are moving to other places, good amount of them proprietary |
| 16:23.08 | Abhigyan | <OutBackDingo> News versions are meant for new features |
| 16:23.35 | Abhigyan | but sometimes that sucks. :| |
| 16:23.41 | Abhigyan | for example in the case of ubuntu |
| 16:24.47 | OutBackDingo | Abhigyan: yes but when you run upgrade on Fedora from 33 to 34 it gives you the newest versions :) |
| 16:25.20 | OutBackDingo | sooo somethings changed pretty seriously |
| 16:25.35 | Abhigyan | Didn't knew that. Thanks OutBackDingo. I am a Pop! OS user actually |
| 16:26.12 | OutBackDingo | and kde doesnt provide triple panes in a single workspace, only the "quad windows" panelling |
| 16:27.10 | OutBackDingo | sad its not better at tiling |
| 16:27.16 | Abhigyan | <OutBackDingo> Pop! is good at tiling windows... |
| 16:27.50 | Abhigyan | But KDE is better for customization :), so KDE shouldn't get sad |
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| 16:29.02 | Abhigyan | Hi, <mrcucula>! |
| 16:29.29 | mrcucula | Hello. |
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| 20:32.19 | AndyAndyBoBandy | I'm using the plasma desktop with sddm and X, and the Arch Linux installation is ~5yrs old. But lately, periodically, the laptop keyboard stops working in the X session; I can't get to another TTY until I first use alt+sysrq+r, at which point I can restart sddm and get back to work. What should I be looking at to figure this out? |
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| 21:08.50 | marccollin | AndyAndyBoBandy: can you do a top to see if there is a process who take all the cpu |
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| 21:20.14 | davidkrauser | marccollin, is there a known issue around a process taking all of the cpu? I had that happen yesterday on an almost fresh install KDE Neon box |
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| 21:35.13 | AndyAndyBoBandy | marccollin: I will do it from a TTY next time the issue occurs. Would you be expecting it to only be a problem while the cpu is so busy, or would one spike be enough to trigger it? I realize we don't know what's up yet, but maybe I need to log CPU state to catch the right data, if it's ephemeral |
| 21:36.35 | AndyAndyBoBandy | I'm pretty sure I've killed most things from the TTY and tried going back, but still no KB action there -- can/should I be "undoing" the KB mode change (magic sysrq r) when I try switching back, before resorting to restarting sddm? |
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| 21:40.50 | AndyAndyBoBandy | Also during the problem, I can actually use kdeconnect on my phone to type |
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| 23:15.28 | SJr | I just upgraded KDE, is there a way for me to get the old KDE "Start Menu" back, I don't want to be dragged into the future. |
| 23:16.37 | SJr | I'm sure I'll get use to it though. |
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| 23:20.27 | AlohaEh | You mean like the KDE Application launcher under "Add New Widgets"? |
| 23:21.04 | Fuchs | SJr: yeah, the old one can be grabbed from store.kde.org which is also accessible through the way AlohaEh mentioned |
| 23:21.28 | Fuchs | SJr: I'd suggest giving it a chance, as it is most likely going to be more maintained, but if you prefer the old one, you can still have that :) |
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| 23:22.43 | Fuchs | https://store.kde.org/p/1468103/ << that, I think |
| 23:24.13 | SJr | Ah yeah that one. |
| 23:24.25 | SJr | Thanks |
| 23:26.04 | Fuchs | welcome |
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