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01:51.53very_sneakydoes anybody know of a way to use gpg encryption with a kwallet _with_ a password on the gpg key? I keep getting `inappropriate ioctl for device` when trying to use the key - this is resolved by setting the pinentry mode to loopback, but that just yields the error `GPG Error No Data` - obviously because it's not able to decrypt the wallet since no password has been entered
01:52.57very_sneakyfind it a bit strange that an applicaation designed to secure a keychain works best without a password - surely there has to be a way of doing this
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08:35.35kakuHey is there some way to remove "notepad"(wine notepad) from file associations list?
08:35.50kakulike just "ban" wine notepad from ever appearing on the list or mass remove it
08:36.06kakuI uninstalled wine but the .desktop file is left over somewhere or smthn
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09:58.35GuiTorisswarfega, asturm; a little update. I was at the right place. You don't have 'add widgets' and 'show alternatives' if your widgets are locked. You cannot unlock them graphically, you need to run a qdbus command. Even if you unlocked them, you don't have the old kickoff, so I had to install the latest source manually
09:59.04swarfeganice find
09:59.16swarfegai think my taskbar is unlocked
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10:00.03asturmGuiToris: err... that's not my experience.
10:00.35GuiTorisI'll show you the command in case I forget it and I need help again :D qdbus org.kde.plasmashell /PlasmaShell evaluateScript "lockCorona(false)"
10:00.47GuiToristhis unlocks, and lockCorona(true) locks
10:02.51GuiTorisasturm, I don't know what you mean by that, but if you try locking your widgets, you'll notice that you cannot replace your application launcher nor can you edit your widgets... which makes sense
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10:05.40GuiToristhere may be other restrictions that the team made, I just haven't noticed them
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10:08.40GuiTorisI still remember when they dropped support of the mature KDE3 in favor of the krappy KDE4
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10:12.47swarfegai loved kde 3
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10:13.50GuiTorisme too, trinity wasn't that popular/maintained, so I had to stick to KDE4, and I got used to it eventually
10:14.45swarfegai have trinity in a vm as a curiousity
10:15.12shtrbAnyone with plasmamobile installed on a phone that has LTE access can do a small test for me and say if they can run dig epdg.epc.mnc${MNC}.mcc${MCC}.pub.3gppnetwork.org on their phone (replace $(MNC) and $(MCC) with your MNC/MCC from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Network_Code ) , you can any dns resolve application just to see if it resolve for you ?
10:17.16shtrbor config.rcs.mnc${mnc}.mcc${mcc}.pub.3gppnetwork.org
10:18.12GuiTorisswarfega, what distribution do use in that vm?
10:18.23swarfegaubuntu
10:18.33swarfegasame with CDE
10:19.01GuiTorisgotcha :)
10:19.13swarfegaCDE was fun to compile
10:20.18GuiTorisswarfega, does it look like this? https://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/cdesktopenv/screenshots/CDE-3.png
10:20.25swarfegayep
10:20.32GuiTorisit reminds me of win3.x
10:20.41swarfegayea it predates win 3.1
10:21.11GuiTorisI have to check this out
10:21.21swarfega:D
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10:22.05GuiToriscde: Initial release June 1993; 27 years ago, win3.0 May 22, 1990; 30 years ago
10:22.30asturmGuiToris: locking widgets is not a thing anymore
10:22.40shtrbwhy ?
10:22.45asturmthere is an "edit widgets" mode instead
10:22.52GuiTorisasturm, yes, but they could have left an option to unlock them
10:23.27asturmGuiToris: afaik it was fixed to be unlocked.
10:23.28GuiTorisshtrb, you weren't here, I solved the yesterday's problem, I had to run a qdbus command to unlock the widgets, then install an older version of launcher to have the same look
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10:23.52asturmat least I didn't have to run a qdbus command on any of my systems
10:23.56GuiTorisasturm, I've read of a fix, but I didn't notice it
10:24.10shtrbI was here yesterday , I said to about exit/enter edit mode, and had seen the qdbus command , and we laughed about the lock corona command
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10:24.50GuiTorisshtrb, but I haven't run it immediately, but even if I unlock them, I can't select the old look
10:25.11GuiTorisasturm, you may not use arch, or you may not have locked your widgets
10:25.24swarfegaasturm is a gentoo developer
10:25.43asturmrest assured all widgets always locked pre-update
10:25.46shtrbYes, it was written , and you also have a newer version then me and you may had performed an upgrade, if I would you I would try to do it with a clean new unix user
10:26.00asturmthis was some time ago, don't remember which update
10:26.07swarfegaasturm: do you know whats coming after kde 5.21
10:26.09GuiTorisI've tired it in a virtual environment first, and if you lock them by the command, you cannot do anything
10:26.23asturmswarfega: after Plasma 5.21 will be 5.22
10:26.28swarfegaah
10:26.35swarfegaany release date?
10:26.52asturmhttps://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5
10:26.56swarfegathanks
10:27.08swarfegaany murmorings for 6?
10:27.09GuiTorisI hope they aren't planning to do any major changes
10:27.21swarfegaGuiToris: they wont for 5.22
10:27.47GuiToristhat's good, it took me a while to restore everything
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10:28.00swarfegai like where kde 5 is at atm
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10:28.23GuiTorisI like where it was before the update
10:28.49swarfegawhat dont you like?
10:29.00GuiTorisWhen I looked for the old look of the launcher, I noticed that not everyone is happy with the new redesigned look
10:29.10GuiToristhe new launcher, I don't want that
10:29.17swarfegai like the new menu its quicker to navigate
10:29.29swarfegayou can change it back
10:29.31GuiToristhe removal of the 'lock/unlock widgets' was just a PITA
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10:29.48GuiTorisyou can't actually, you have to install it
10:30.05GuiToristhere's no such an option
10:30.13swarfegahmm there is on my manjaro
10:30.55GuiTorisdidn't you say you have an older version of plasma?
10:31.16swarfegai have trinity in a vm
10:31.21swarfegaotherwise this is 5.21.3
10:31.36GuiTorishttps://www.debugpoint.com/2021/02/legacy-kickoff-kde-plasma-5-21/
10:31.45GuiTorisplasmapkg2 -i Downloads/kickoff-legacy-1.0.0.plasmoid
10:31.50swarfegaill look at that
10:31.55swarfegabut im happy with the new one
10:32.02GuiToristhis is how you can get the old look of the kicker
10:32.26GuiTorisI wouldn't mind if they create a new kicker if they left the old one as an option
10:33.09asturm...but they did?
10:34.27GuiTorisIf I have to manually install an older code then no, they didn't let me choose
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10:35.07GuiTorisalso, they won't fix this code, so if it breaks then I'll be left alone
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10:35.16asturmGuiToris: then bug your distribution. navigating to the old kickoff in discover really isn't much of an obstacle
10:35.58GuiToris'discover' sounds like an Ubuntu specific thing
10:36.06asturmit isn't
10:36.24swarfegaperhaps it should be Diskover
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10:37.34GuiTorishmm, there really is a package 'discover', I haven't installed it, though
10:37.51swarfegawhat distro are you on
10:38.12GuiTorisarchlinux
10:38.33swarfegai thought discover was installed on arch
10:38.39swarfegamind you it isnt on manjaro
10:39.11GuiToristhere are no preinstalled packages, everything have to be installed explicitly
10:39.29swarfegaah i used calemares to install arch
10:39.48GuiTorisit may set things up for you
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10:41.14GuiTorisone of my widgets also disappeared from the desktop, I have to figure that out too :S
10:41.45asturmGuiToris: making it available through the store btw is already extra effort done by upstream. otherwise you would have had to manually rip it out from an old plasma-desktop tarball
10:43.05GuiTorisasturm, I'll look into discover, thanks for the hint
10:43.44GuiTorisis there any way I can find out what widget (plasmoid) is failing?
10:44.07GuiToristhere's an empty spot on my desktop, and there was something there before the update
10:44.18swarfegaperhaps its an icon issue
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10:54.44GuiTorishmm, I can't remember what it was :/
10:54.56GuiTorisanyway, thanks for your help :)
10:55.04GuiTorisI've got to go now
10:55.08GuiTorissee you later!
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11:16.28gloomy_laptopHey, I can't figure out how to increase logging level. I ran kdebugdialog5 and selected anything, but the outputs are the same (when running the program in the console)
11:16.49gloomy_laptop(the program = korganizer, trying to figure out why it doesn't sync)
11:16.54shtrbGuiToris , check your plasma applet rc file
11:17.44shtrbgloomy_laptop, you probably need KMail and not Kontact
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11:38.28gloomy_laptopwho said anything about kontact?
11:38.56gloomy_laptopI need to sync calendars. Kmail doesn't do that afaik.
11:39.41swarfegai would like to import my google calendar in to kde
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12:16.40shtrbgloomy_laptop, sorry, brain fart
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12:29.55BluesKajHi folks
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12:34.04shtrbswarfega, you can either export the ics or use a remote calendar as an akonadi resource
12:42.36swarfegai tend to use it in browser atm
12:42.57swarfegacan kontact support it?
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13:14.09shtrbswarfega, yes, I just told you how
13:14.20swarfegaok thanks
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15:45.13cornfeedhobodoes anyone know how to fix issues with kio-slave not knowing a protocol?
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15:46.33asturmdid you perform package updates and not restart your session?
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16:16.21cornfeedhoboasturm: no, this is a long standing issue that I've had for months now
16:17.05cornfeedhoboasturm: likely caused by a distro upgrade, but there is no changing that, so I'd like to figure out where these are configured
16:18.27cornfeedhoboUnable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'mailto'.
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16:20.57cornfeedhoboworse yet, System Settings -> Applications -> Email Client is set to kmail, but running kde-open5 manually shows kde resolve the open command to thunderbird??
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16:47.14tomz_was wondering if its just my archlinux or if others have similar issues with KDE based on Qt 5.12.2 that doesn't show emoji's anymore.  For instance 🌴  (127796)
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16:48.49jankusanagi_Archlinux with Qt 5.12??
16:49.23jankusanagi_what emojis your Plasma desktop, or any other software shows, depend on your installed fonts and your FontConfig rules
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16:55.46tomz_@jankusanagi_i've installed all the emoji fonts I can find, never touched my fontconfig and I can't get emojis to show up.
16:56.12tomz_At least not in Qt based apps. Firefox has no issues with them.
17:03.59jankusanagi_Firefox uses its own Mozilla-specific emoji font, included with the Firefox package, and its own rules
17:04.58jankusanagi_if you have emoji fonts installed, their symbols should appear at the very least, when there are no other higher-priority fonts providing those symbols
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17:05.33jankusanagi_so, with your palm tree 🌴, do you see an uglier version, or do you simply not see anything?
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17:35.38tomz_@JanKusanagi I get a square
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17:38.35tomz_kfontview shows nothing for something like /usr/share/fonts/noto/NotoColorEmoji.ttf
17:40.03JanKusanagiyou should check that with KCharSelect
17:40.19JanKusanagiKFontView is designed to show a sample of readable letters
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17:42.21tomz_also all squares
17:42.35tomz_well, some work (black/white) like 🌤
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17:50.08cornfeedhobo:(
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18:01.50cornfeedhobohalf answering my own question: the problem resides in ~/.local/share/applications
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19:15.57dnzm[m]Sure looks like it
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19:44.26Guest5423895is anyone else having an issue where the textbox in kdeconnect-sms is refusing to change themes with the system settings. When I change to breeze dark the textbox stays white so I it shows as white on white text making it undreadble
19:45.11asturmyup
19:45.53Guest5423895this is new with the update right? Because its driving me crazy
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19:48.37Guest5423895Any idea how to fix the issue asturm
19:48.47asturmfind/file a bug
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20:29.52Deknosuhm, i a learning spanish right now.. how can i set the graphical local to spanish? if at least only for kate or libreoffice-writer?
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20:42.29FuchsDeknos: hi, sure, most applications  (e.g. kate and dolphin) do support changing the language, it's in the settings menu
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