| 01:58.06 | *** join/#ldstech TimRiker (~TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) |
| 02:00.54 | TimRiker | waves |
| 02:01.12 | kathryngz | waves back |
| 02:01.24 | kathryngz | asks, "How are you, Tim?" |
| 02:02.33 | TimRiker | replies "fine, fine" |
| 02:03.33 | TimRiker | you saw me playing with the hq reports? I was bored. :) |
| 02:04.11 | kathryngz | No, I'm not sure how I would see that... |
| 02:04.30 | kathryngz | But also, one of our earlier volunteers coded those reports--I just haven't had time to put his work in. |
| 02:04.34 | kathryngz | I hope you didn't do too much... |
| 02:04.39 | kathryngz | I could send you his stuff if you life. |
| 02:04.45 | kathryngz | s/life/like/ |
| 02:05.07 | TimRiker | I just made it show all the areas and storehouses that are in the db. didn't play with the totals. |
| 02:05.11 | kathryngz | Also, Rick or Ralph said they are the lowest priority, which is why I hadn't done anything with them yet. |
| 02:05.25 | TimRiker | nods. I was just playing. |
| 02:05.31 | kathryngz | I hear ya... |
| 02:05.44 | kathryngz | I've been at this since 7:00 this morning and had to take a break or two myself... |
| 02:05.53 | kathryngz | But I got a lot of little glitches fixed today! |
| 02:06.25 | kathryngz | By the way, Add Users looks great! |
| 02:06.37 | kathryngz | Oh... do you know why I can't get into phpmyadmin? |
| 02:06.38 | TimRiker | I did limit the user displays so that area folk only see those from their area etc. |
| 02:06.41 | kathryngz | My hands are tied again... |
| 02:06.47 | kathryngz | Perfect |
| 02:06.56 | TimRiker | no, phpmyadmin was working for me... let me check. |
| 02:07.03 | kathryngz | Wow, I sure wish we had a QA team to test!!! |
| 02:07.16 | kathryngz | I was thinking today--it's really amazing all that we've accomplished with very limited resources!! |
| 02:07.28 | TimRiker | it would be nice if the edit users would redraw to show the newly added user(s) |
| 02:07.38 | TimRiker | agreed |
| 02:07.58 | kathryngz | Our other screens do that via AJAX--donated labor, past orders, etc. |
| 02:08.09 | TimRiker | should add storehouse work? did you see I added all the storehouse countries? |
| 02:08.12 | kathryngz | I think I could add that if you like |
| 02:08.20 | TimRiker | sure. |
| 02:08.22 | kathryngz | I did see that. Thank you! |
| 02:08.30 | kathryngz | And it should work... that was something I fixed today. |
| 02:08.40 | TimRiker | might want that in a table at some point. :/ |
| 02:08.42 | kathryngz | It was choking because of the new unit number field. |
| 02:09.02 | kathryngz | Agreed, or I thought maybe we could pull it from CDOL... but then again, maybe not... |
| 02:09.06 | TimRiker | did you get the same list of storehouses from ralph? I added s-am-s and brazil, but not the others. |
| 02:09.25 | kathryngz | My list of storehouses came from the old user guide, and I'm sure it's out of date. |
| 02:09.32 | kathryngz | Don't recall receiving anything like that from Ralph... |
| 02:09.34 | TimRiker | I have not found that info in cdol anywhere. |
| 02:09.46 | TimRiker | I'll forward the email... |
| 02:09.55 | kathryngz | Some time ago Tom sent me a spreadsheet with countries in it. I'll forward that to you. |
| 02:10.06 | kathryngz | It's probably not quite current any more, but may still be helpful. |
| 02:10.26 | kathryngz | It was sent to my AOL address so tell me if you don't get it in the next 5 min or so. |
| 02:10.59 | TimRiker | sent |
| 02:11.35 | TimRiker | the list does NOT have the alpha codes. neither does CDOL. I don't know where they come from. |
| 02:11.57 | TimRiker | I've entered some as Xnn so we know they are bogus |
| 02:12.21 | kathryngz | That might be a Rick question. I also got the alpha codes I have from the old user guide... |
| 02:14.04 | TimRiker | still catching up on email.. re-repacks.. can't the mgr just do inventory adjustments? ie: remove one 20kg bag, and add 20 1kg bags? |
| 02:15.27 | kathryngz | okay, I just sent the country list from tom via aol. let me know if you don't get it soon. |
| 02:15.33 | kathryngz | Or check your junk mail ;) |
| 02:15.53 | kathryngz | They could... but I'd hate to make them do that if the system could handle it. |
| 02:16.02 | kathryngz | That would kind of be a manual process... |
| 02:16.39 | TimRiker | yeah. tracking the lowest size with bulk items being multiples sounds sane. |
| 02:16.47 | kathryngz | For a smaller storehouse it might not be so bad, but for a busier one... |
| 02:16.59 | kathryngz | Thanks... I wanted to sanity check it with you before implementing it. |
| 02:17.12 | kathryngz | And also I couldn't get into phpmyadmin to make the changes anyway... |
| 02:17.21 | kathryngz | but you say you could get in? I'll try again... |
| 02:18.17 | kathryngz | Aha!!! I'm back in now. |
| 02:18.25 | kathryngz | Thanks for the tip. |
| 02:18.58 | TimRiker | I just logged into phpmyadmin. works fine. |
| 02:18.59 | kathryngz | Did you see Rick's email about postponing training? |
| 02:19.11 | kathryngz | Yep, I can get in now too. Not sure what was up this afternoon. |
| 02:19.12 | TimRiker | are you using the username/password I sent in that email? |
| 02:19.16 | kathryngz | I couldn't get in for a couple of hours. |
| 02:19.26 | kathryngz | Yes, and it worked this morning, then stopped working, but now it works again. |
| 02:19.34 | kathryngz | I know I didn't fatfinger it because I copied it out of your email. |
| 02:19.48 | kathryngz | Multiple times, because I kept hoping it would work. |
| 02:19.58 | TimRiker | huh. I dunno. someone else might be messing around on the server, I dunno. |
| 02:20.13 | kathryngz | Yeah... hey, as long as it's working now, I'm happy :) |
| 02:20.40 | TimRiker | is deleting users working? if so I should change the home screen/login/etc to look at that field. |
| 02:20.54 | kathryngz | Not yet :\ sorry. |
| 02:21.03 | TimRiker | I was just testing. I'll nuke the smoots I added. |
| 02:21.03 | kathryngz | I'm still working on Edit Users. |
| 02:21.12 | kathryngz | those were pretty funny :) |
| 02:23.13 | TimRiker | k. cleaned out the random smoots. Can you see/login as the chinese user? |
| 02:23.24 | kathryngz | Let me check... |
| 02:24.03 | TimRiker | it works here in firefox. that's a valid ldsaccount. eek |
| 02:24.29 | kathryngz | Yes, I was able to log in as é³æ·ç³ |
| 02:24.36 | kathryngz | Do you see characters there, or just boxes? |
| 02:24.42 | TimRiker | anyhow, I've loosened up the ldsaccount charset tests. we should handle anything ldsaccount does now. |
| 02:24.46 | kathryngz | I only see boxes.. but the right characters show up on my screen. |
| 02:24.49 | TimRiker | yes! that showed fine. :) |
| 02:24.50 | kathryngz | Very cool! |
| 02:25.09 | kathryngz | Apparently my settings still aren't right since I'm only seeing boxes. |
| 02:25.10 | TimRiker | might need to change fonts (not charsets) in xchat to get it to display. |
| 02:25.14 | kathryngz | Thought I fixed that the other day. |
| 02:25.21 | kathryngz | Oh... what font are you using? |
| 02:25.35 | kathryngz | Looks like I'm using some kind of console monospace font... |
| 02:25.45 | TimRiker | ubuntu calls it Monospace 12. not sure what it really is. |
| 02:26.03 | kathryngz | Oh... no wonder it works. You're on Linux. |
| 02:26.43 | TimRiker | :) I had issues with firefox though. the default font showed the latin1 stuff ok, but not the utf8 bits. I had to change to another font. |
| 02:26.46 | kathryngz | Well, my xchat says I'm using Monospace 9. |
| 02:26.50 | kathryngz | Would have thought that would work. |
| 02:26.59 | kathryngz | Interesting. |
| 02:27.04 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.13 | kathryngz | later. |
| 03:24.46 | kathryngz | Got the storehouse list. Thanks. |
| 03:30.16 | TimRiker | can you reliably duplicate the double login? |
| 03:30.33 | kathryngz | All day today, yes. |
| 03:30.39 | kathryngz | But did you just try to fix it? I could test again. |
| 03:31.16 | TimRiker | I have not changed anything, but i can't get it to happen now. |
| 03:31.30 | kathryngz | Interesting... I'll take a look! |
| 03:32.32 | kathryngz | Okay, this is hilarious. |
| 03:33.02 | kathryngz | I promise that all day when I clicked the first time, the credentials appeared in the fields and then disappeared, and I always had to log in twice. |
| 03:33.14 | kathryngz | But now, when I click the first time, I go right in, BUT.... |
| 03:33.27 | kathryngz | when I log out and try to log back in, the double thing happens again!! |
| 03:38.10 | TimRiker | I'm logging out and back in, but I can't get it to happen. |
| 03:38.28 | kathryngz | Let me shut down my browser completely, then... |
| 03:58.52 | *** join/#ldstech kathryngz (~kathryn@97-117-81-98.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 03:59.05 | kathryngz | Sorry about that, my machine had a meltdown. |
| 03:59.08 | kathryngz | Had to reboot. |
| 03:59.14 | kathryngz | Just bringing up ff now. |
| 04:02.37 | kathryngz | Weird--ff is not coming up. |
| 04:02.58 | TimRiker | hmm. I dunno. |
| 04:03.14 | kathryngz | Maybe it's trying to update or something. |
| 04:03.27 | kathryngz | This happens occasionally--it takes for ever and finally comes up. |
| 04:03.28 | TimRiker | where all are we expecting unit numbers/names? and what's the search scope? |
| 04:03.54 | kathryngz | Not sure I understand exactly what you're asking? |
| 04:05.01 | TimRiker | there's a mockup of some wards. are we wanting that to include all the wards in a given area? that's a long list. |
| 04:05.15 | TimRiker | (when I say ward, I mean branch as well) |
| 04:06.19 | kathryngz | The specs were than Areas should be able to look up any ecclesiastical leader within the area. |
| 04:06.45 | kathryngz | Don't know of HQ needs that... would the guys in Welfare have a different way to look up Church members? |
| 04:07.08 | kathryngz | And of course storehouse staff should be able to look up any ecclesiastical leader served by the storehouse. |
| 04:07.17 | kathryngz | Does that answer your question? |
| 04:08.23 | TimRiker | kinda. :) does this include counselors? or just stake/district pres then ward/branch pres? |
| 04:08.45 | kathryngz | No counselors. |
| 04:08.49 | TimRiker | k |
| 04:14.14 | kathryngz | Just upgraded ff and tried to log on to BSIR and the same thing happened. I'm clearing the cache, closing the browser, and trying again. |
| 04:16.25 | kathryngz | Well, now it's happening for me just like it was before today. |
| 04:16.41 | kathryngz | Click the link, credentials appear and disappear, then click the link again and I get in. |
| 04:16.57 | kathryngz | But if it's not happening for you, something must be odd on my end. |
| 04:17.04 | kathryngz | I'll check it again tomorrow. |
| 04:17.20 | TimRiker | I've seen it before, I just can't get it to happen right now. wierd |
| 04:17.54 | kathryngz | Yes, it's always weird (and unusual) when you can't *get* a mistake to happen again :) |
| 04:18.30 | kathryngz | Well, I'm going to sign off. I need to finish up a few things for Primary tomorrow. |
| 04:18.59 | kathryngz | Anything we need to touch base on? |
| 04:19.09 | kathryngz | Haven't heard back from Rick on Monday, but I assume we won't have training... |
| 04:41.32 | TimRiker | http://tech.lds.org/bsir/form_leaders |
| 04:41.54 | TimRiker | there are a lot of stakes in an area. |
| 04:42.37 | kathryngz | That's quite a list :) |
| 04:42.54 | kathryngz | Is there a geographical unit between stakes and areas that you know of? |
| 04:43.19 | TimRiker | no |
| 04:43.32 | TimRiker | is a dropdown with that many stakes usable? |
| 04:43.43 | kathryngz | I don't think so, but I was thinking an autoreduction box might be... |
| 04:43.55 | kathryngz | Similar to the filter list boxes for past orders, donated labor, etc. |
| 04:44.06 | kathryngz | Don't know if you have seen those... |
| 04:44.18 | kathryngz | The list is filtered as the person types. |
| 04:44.25 | TimRiker | not sure what you mean. 96 stakes there... |
| 04:44.29 | kathryngz | Kind of like familysearch.org as well. |
| 04:44.35 | kathryngz | Are you in BSIR? |
| 04:44.41 | TimRiker | ah. yeah. might have to. |
| 04:44.48 | TimRiker | what do you mean by that? |
| 04:45.00 | kathryngz | Oops, meant ALPHA reduction, not autoreduction! |
| 04:45.07 | kathryngz | Sometimes my fingers go faster than my brain :) |
| 04:45.17 | kathryngz | What do I mean by what? lol! |
| 04:45.23 | TimRiker | <kathryngz> Are you in BSIR? <- that |
| 04:45.24 | kathryngz | What do I mean by familysearch? |
| 04:45.48 | kathryngz | Oh, just if you were, you could go to View Past Orders and use the filter box there to see what I mean. |
| 04:46.03 | kathryngz | We wouldn't have to display the full list, we could just start to display matches as they type. |
| 04:46.07 | kathryngz | Anyway, it's one option. |
| 04:46.19 | kathryngz | But a dropdown with that many stakes would be crazy, IMHO. |
| 04:46.40 | kathryngz | By the way, how did you do that repeat of my question? |
| 04:47.00 | kathryngz | It shows up in red for me... did the bot add "<-that" or did you type that? |
| 04:47.11 | kathryngz | ~repeat |
| 04:47.12 | infobot | If nobody answers your question, don't just repeat it. Spamming the channel and getting ignored/banned/silenced isn't going to get a faster answer; spamming is a function of time. More likely, nobody knows the answer (/msg apt ask), or you need to provide more information (/msg apt sicco)), or ask me about "rephrase", or ask smart questions. |
| 04:47.20 | TimRiker | ah. ic |
| 04:47.42 | kathryngz | love the bot :) |
| 04:47.46 | TimRiker | repeat: just copy and paste. |
| 04:47.53 | kathryngz | How mundane! |
| 04:47.54 | kathryngz | ;) |
| 04:47.56 | TimRiker | heh |
| 04:48.18 | TimRiker | your client makes it red cause it has your name in it. |
| 04:48.30 | kathryngz | Aha. |
| 04:49.21 | kathryngz | It looked different than the other ones that usually have my name in it, but maybe I'm just braindead. |
| 04:49.22 | kathryngz | :) |
| 04:50.40 | TimRiker | kathryngz, same as this? |
| 04:51.02 | kathryngz | No, the other one had angle brackets around my name. |
| 04:51.05 | kathryngz | Did you type those? |
| 04:57.24 | TimRiker | nope. copying in xchat gives me that. |
| 04:57.34 | TimRiker | <kathryngz> No, the other one had angle brackets around my name. |
| 04:57.34 | TimRiker | <kathryngz> Did you type those? |
| 04:57.36 | TimRiker | etc |
| 04:57.47 | kathryngz | <TimRiker> ah. ic |
| 04:57.57 | TimRiker | that's it. :) |
| 04:58.01 | kathryngz | I learn something every day :) |
| 04:58.35 | kathryngz | Well, thanks for everything! |
| 04:58.41 | TimRiker | in a select list now.. |
| 04:58.50 | kathryngz | The billion stakes? |
| 04:58.55 | TimRiker | http://tech.lds.org/bsir/form_leaders |
| 04:58.56 | TimRiker | yes |
| 04:59.21 | kathryngz | To be honest, it's not as bad as I thought it would be. |
| 04:59.30 | kathryngz | I still think as a user I'd like alphareduction better, though. |
| 04:59.47 | kathryngz | But... in the interest of time, this is done :) |
| 04:59.54 | kathryngz | Maybe we should save filtering for BSIR 2.0. |
| 04:59.57 | kathryngz | :) |
| 05:00.12 | kathryngz | Your thoughts? |
| 05:01.23 | TimRiker | now how to I handle wards? no way I'm generating 96 different list of wards and hiding them. |
| 05:01.35 | kathryngz | Oh, the horror!! |
| 05:01.37 | kathryngz | ;) |
| 05:01.46 | kathryngz | Seriously, though... that would be awful. |
| 05:02.03 | TimRiker | so selecting a stake needs to trigger an ajax call to get the wards. |
| 05:02.12 | kathryngz | LOL! I was just going to say the same thing :) |
| 05:02.57 | kathryngz | It was bad enough doing that as a hack on our little fake ward/stake dropdownss. |
| 05:03.04 | TimRiker | yeah, no making it happen will be the trick. I'm also hardcoding the area at the moment. need to tie into the db for the unit num |
| 05:03.06 | kathryngz | And that was only for two stakes! |
| 05:03.15 | TimRiker | nods |
| 05:03.32 | kathryngz | s/drorpdownss/dropdowns/ |
| 05:03.50 | kathryngz | How odd... search didn't work with my typo :) |
| 05:04.13 | kathryngz | And probably it has to be immediately after the incorrect line, right? |
| 05:04.47 | kathryngz | Would you AJAX the wards in directly from CDOL? |
| 05:05.12 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:05.20 | kathryngz | Makes sense. |
| 05:05.37 | TimRiker | yes. I'll add a sample now, but not ajaxed |
| 05:05.45 | kathryngz | Plus the fact that you actually do have to spell correctly the item you want to replace <g> |
| 05:05.56 | kathryngz | Sounds good. |
| 05:07.43 | TimRiker | I don't see any districts... need some. |
| 05:07.58 | kathryngz | Oh, yeah--there must be districts somewhere in the Area! |
| 05:08.12 | TimRiker | ah, found the defines... |
| 05:08.27 | kathryngz | Way to go :) |
| 05:08.43 | kathryngz | Well, I'm calling it a night. Thanks again, and talk to you probably Monday. |
| 05:08.54 | kathryngz | waves goodbye |