IRC log for #ldstech on 20110913

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14:44.48TimRikermoin. work at home day today so everyone should be out of the office.
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14:46.51mgearyhey folks
14:48.14Spennig_::waves::
14:48.43mgearyi know it's not entirely on-topic, but i'm formulating a question about the lds.org portal...
14:49.14mgearydoes anyone here, perchance, know what setting in MLS controls a member's ability to edit contact details for other members via website directory? As a 1st counselor, i have this ability, but someone we've given "membership" access to in MLS only has the ability to change the preferred name of other members
14:50.26scgallafentIt's going to be controlled by their calling, rather than an MLS setting. I'm not sure which calling have access. I believe there is a list somewhere.
14:50.54mgearybah
14:52.24scgallafentI'm looking at the forum to see if I can find the list.
14:52.34mgearywhere does that forum live?
14:52.56scgallafentThe Leader and Clerk Resources forum is at https://tech.lds.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?112-Leader-and-Clerk-Resources
14:53.13scgallafentThe main page is http://tech.lds.org/forum/
14:54.14scgallafentHere's one message with a list: https://tech.lds.org/forum/showthread.php?4915-Remote-MLS-Access&p=47938&viewfull=1#post47938
14:54.39scgallafentThat's old, so they may have expanded access. (First counselor isn't on the list)
14:55.04TimRikerI'm an assistant clerk and I have access.
14:55.17scgallafentHere's the official list: https://tech.lds.org/ldshelp/index.php5/Leader_and_Clerk_Resources:_Overview/eng
14:55.20TimRikeroh, but I'm also the ward web site admin. it might be that.
14:55.50mgearyinterestingly, HC members don't have leader access
14:56.01scgallafentYup. Keeps me out of trouble. :)
14:56.14scgallafentThat and there really isn't anything I could do once I got there.
14:56.23mgearyexcept access handbook 1
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14:56.55TimRikeris handbook one online?
14:57.57TimRikerperhaps it's just for other callings...
14:58.19mgearyi've had access to it as an exec sec and 1st C.
14:58.45scgallafentBoth are on the list at https://tech.lds.org/ldshelp/index.php5/Leader_and_Clerk_Resources:_Overview/eng
14:59.25mgearywe've called someone to help flush out the membership directory, and we'd all greatly prefer that he's able to do it via the website (including upload photos)
14:59.38scgallafentHandbook one is online if you have appropriate access. I think that is limited to bishoprics/stake presidencies/clerks - basically the same as physical distribution.
14:59.48scgallafentMy physical distribution is via a key to the stake clerk's office.
15:00.29scgallafentmgeary: If that person was an assistant clerk, he should have access.
15:00.42scgallafentTimRiker: 3244?
15:00.51mgearymeh. we had hoped to not have to make it a stake calling
15:01.01TimRikeryep
15:01.35scgallafentOn my way...
15:03.12scgallafentmgeary: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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15:03.29mgearymeh
15:04.49TimRikeran assitant ward clerk would have edit access at the ward level.
15:05.20scgallafentAn assistant ward clerk is still a stake calling. :(
15:08.19scgallafentWorks for me
15:08.38TimRikersmootar wants to hold our ldstech meetings here on other days of the week. Sounds like fun to me.
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15:12.39scgallafentThanks, TimRiker.
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15:14.10Kevin__I won't be able to make Friday's meetings
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15:31.29tdeforest_Sudden power loss at home. :(
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15:59.27smootar_homeJust as a reminder to everyone on the LDSTech Project.  we are meeting at 9:00 AM on IRC for the first time starting tomorrow, WED, 14 SEP 2011.  In the past this has been a meeting place only meeting.
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17:34.09tdeforestsmootar_: any projects from that list you want me to focus on? any projects not on that list that should be?
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17:38.18tdeforestsmootar_ did you try the recover command: http://www.wikkedwire.com/services/nickserv
17:39.37tdeforestsmootar_: any projects from that list i sent you want me to focus on? any projects not on that list that should be?
17:41.00smootar_I haven't tried the recover, I will check it out.
17:41.21smootar_As far a projects.  I am looking at the list you sent as well as the project health list.
17:41.38smootar_There are a couple of projects that we should look into.
17:42.07smootar_One is the Gospel Library for WebOS.
17:42.57smootar_The current project lead is in the community.
17:43.11smootar_I think he would like some help.
17:44.05smootar_The other is the Blackberry LDS Tools project.  They are requesting help there as well.
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17:48.54coderjeffHow do I remove the JavaSTACK project so I don't see it in Jira?
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17:56.00tdeforestcoderjeff: so you left the project in joomla but you still see it in jira?
17:56.30coderjeffI never joined it, but it shows up in Jira
17:57.18tdeforestare there tickets assigned to you for that project?
17:57.46coderjeffNo, I've never had anything to do with STACK
17:58.31tdeforestha. that one is in my list of projects too
17:58.35tdeforestnever noticed it
17:59.41coderjeffI hadn't noticed until I started seeing a bunch of Activity
18:04.27tdeforesttimriker: how does coderjeff get removed from the java stack (stack) project? he never joined it but it shows up in his jira list
18:08.12TimRikertdeforest, the java stack people made the project open to all. it should show on everyone's list now.
18:09.11TimRikerjira does not have a setting that I can find to allow entry into a project but not show it on the dashboard.
18:09.37tdeforestthanks tim. can you make me an administrator in jira?
18:34.50TimRikertdeforest, done
18:35.08tdeforestmerci beaucoup
18:37.44TimRiker~x en fr you're welcome
18:37.51TimRikerhehe
18:38.00TimRiker~x en fr you are welcome
18:38.23tdeforesthehe. nice
18:38.31scgallafent~lart punctuation
18:38.31infobotaccelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets punctuation feel it
18:38.40TimRiker~x en gr it is all greek to me
18:39.28TimRiker~x en jp you would think I was speaking Japanese or something.
18:47.30tdeforest~x en jp impressive
18:52.33TimRikertdeforest, have you looked at the datatables error that shows up on the project list?
18:52.52TimRiker~x jp en 印象的
18:52.58TimRikerLOL
18:53.28tdeforestis this the one you were mentioning last night? i looked at it in firefox 6.0.1 on my mac. and didn't see an error
18:53.35TimRikerDataTables warning (table id = 'my-projects'): Requested unknown parameter '1' from the data source for row 0
18:53.49tdeforesti'll look at that
18:55.12TimRikerlogin as aholder here (if you're on ipv6 that is) http://octo.rikers.org/ldstech/joomla/
18:56.49tdeforesti believe os x lion supports ipv6 but your link isn't loading
18:57.35tdeforesti don't get an error on my local machine. let me try cdev
18:58.00TimRikeryou can only get to octo (my laptop) on ipv6.
18:58.11TimRikerI've seen it on cdev... let me try to reproduce it.
18:58.41tdeforestis the table empty?
18:59.03TimRikermanagement page for cholder shows the error.
18:59.22TimRikerDataTables warning (table id = 'admintbl'): Requested unknown parameter '3' from the data source for row 0
19:00.40TimRikertable seems to have valid content. dunno what the issue is.
19:01.12tdeforestcool. am seeing it now. will see what i can do
19:03.21TimRiker:)
19:04.01tdeforestit's because a non admin is seeing this table. the table should have four columns (the delete column is missing). the js is confused by the missing column.
19:04.41tdeforesti'll have to adjust the js to accommodate both views
19:05.52TimRikerthe my-projects table have a similar issue?
19:06.04tdeforestk
19:22.18tdeforesttimriker: was that a question? looks like my-projects should not have the same problem. just the table on the admin/manage screen. are you seeing an error on the my-projects table?
19:24.54tdeforestchecked in fix for the admin view. testing now...
19:26.50tdeforesthmm…cholder is being identified as admin by the code but the delete project column is not being shown
19:54.24tdeforeststill trying to figure this out…troublesome...
19:58.47smootar_tdeforest: Can you check in the LDSTech google group to see if my ldschurch.org email has been marked as banned?  I have been banned in another google group for Tom Johnson.
19:59.19tdeforestsure. one moment
20:00.50tdeforestyou and tom johnson both appear as banned
20:01.13smootar_Is there any reason given?
20:01.32tdeforestit says you smell funny
20:01.44tdeforestjk. no there's no reason given
20:01.49smootar_~lart tdeforest
20:01.49infobothooks into a hydrant and hoses tdeforest down
20:02.33tdeforesti don't see a way to unban you
20:02.41smootar_Thanks, I will have to look into it.  I wonder if me sending out mass mailings from my account has caused this.
20:03.03tdeforestit's your ldschurch.org account
20:04.17tdeforestyour gmail account is not banned
20:06.35smootar_That is the same for Tom's group as well.  Does Tom Johnson have a gmail account in the ldstech group?
20:07.18smootar_Is his gmail account banned?
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20:16.02smootar_tdeforest: Could you try banning me, then unbanning me?  Tom Johnson just successfully did this.
20:16.38tdeforestah. i'll try that
20:17.15Kevin__I want to ban Alan!
20:17.25TimRikertdeforest, yes. I'm seeing an error on the my-projects page as I posted up above.
20:17.50tdeforestyes. i see it too. getting close to a solution
20:18.30TimRikerk
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20:35.31tdeforesttimriker: i believe i have fixed the my-projects table. please verify. still working on the admin/manage table
20:48.36tdeforesttimriker: and the admin/manage table appears to work now.
20:55.09TimRikertdeforest, looks good here.
20:55.39TimRikerI merged jos_users in to the team member view and removed a bunch of sql lookups. speeds up the admin page.
20:55.40tdeforestexcellent. thanks for verifying
20:56.09TimRikerwe look up the project status table far too much.
21:01.05tdeforestin the admin/manage view?
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21:07.22TimRikertdeforest, all over the place, we look up the text and compare against that. I'm thinking of killing the table and moving it to an array in globals.php
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21:48.41smootar_TimRiker: Can you remind me what happened to the laptop we used for the LDSTech Service Day?  It was the machine Nathaniel was using for email.
21:49.33TimRikerhmm. it was on his desk before the move. I thought you put it on the first cart we brought down.
21:50.30smootar_There was only one machine on his desk, I thought it was his main machine.  I had Wes Butler come and pick it up.
21:52.18TimRikerdunno then. I thought he gave one of them back already.
21:53.18smootar_Ok, I was getting pinged.  I'll find out wich machine they picked up on Friday.
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