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15:43.21 | smootar | moin tdeforest |
15:43.33 | smootar | moin josephscott |
15:43.37 | josephscott | howdy |
15:44.00 | tdeforest | hello |
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15:59.25 | smootar | ************************************************* |
15:59.25 | smootar | ***** Begin - LDSTech Meeting - 21 NOV 2011 ***** |
15:59.25 | smootar | ************************************************* |
15:59.30 | smootar | Who is here for our meeting? |
15:59.30 | scgallafent | me |
15:59.37 | smootar | moin |
15:59.50 | scgallafent | moin |
16:00.11 | tdeforest | here |
16:01.03 | smootar | scgallafent, do you want to start? |
16:01.50 | scgallafent | Nothing major to report. I worked on GGroups on Friday and started looking through the Fortify reports from the old RecProp site. Saturday was best of EFY, so I was tied up all day. |
16:02.11 | scgallafent | Just read the email about George and testing. I missed that when it came through originally and will do that today. |
16:02.26 | smootar | We have someone that want to test GG's, could he start doing that? |
16:02.47 | scgallafent | I'm modifying the code so that it allows completely enabling or disabling GGroups. |
16:02.56 | smootar | nods |
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16:03.07 | scgallafent | I haven't committed the major chunks because they would break things if everything isn't in place. |
16:03.11 | smootar | moin KFitz |
16:03.24 | KFitz | gday |
16:03.25 | scgallafent | This fixes that and then he can pull it for testing. Are you talking about George? |
16:03.36 | smootar | Yes, George. |
16:03.49 | smootar | Would he test on cdev? |
16:03.53 | scgallafent | OK. I should wrap up these changes this morning. |
16:04.07 | smootar | I would think he would test there and not need to pull it local. |
16:04.17 | scgallafent | I'll need to update cdev to be ready to run it. There are some database changes to be made. |
16:04.23 | scgallafent | Nothing major, though. |
16:04.39 | smootar | Great, when do you think cdev would be ready for him to test? |
16:04.41 | scgallafent | I've got credentials for the production database. I'll need to get cdev credentials from you (unless they're the same). |
16:04.59 | scgallafent | Give me a couple of hours and I'll know whether it is going to be today. |
16:05.00 | smootar | hmmm, I'll need to check. |
16:05.06 | smootar | nods |
16:05.19 | scgallafent | Database credentials are the only major roadblock. |
16:05.24 | smootar | Anything else? |
16:05.33 | scgallafent | I have some minor refactoring to clean up code and comments, but that shouldn't stop him. |
16:05.35 | tdeforest | i believe credentials are the same using phpmyadmin, right? |
16:05.46 | scgallafent | I'll check right now. Nothing else. |
16:05.59 | smootar | probably. |
16:06.31 | smootar | Thx. |
16:06.36 | smootar | tdeforest? |
16:06.50 | tdeforest | spoke with the southern maine chapter on friday |
16:07.00 | tdeforest | they have a group of five. |
16:07.05 | scgallafent | Tested - OK for database. |
16:07.22 | smootar | thx scgallafent |
16:07.37 | tdeforest | they look forward to doing some testing. we can send GG testing info too when you're ready |
16:08.09 | scgallafent | K |
16:08.12 | tdeforest | they are going to meet on a different day from the service day |
16:08.50 | tdeforest | i've sent a couple of emails to mel in the philippines after he missed our meeting on thurs night EST |
16:09.05 | tdeforest | i cc'd todd on one of them. still no word |
16:09.41 | smootar | Remind me, is Mel the developer? |
16:09.53 | tdeforest | he is one of the devs |
16:10.02 | smootar | Ok. |
16:10.17 | tdeforest | i've had one mtg with him |
16:10.34 | smootar | :( |
16:10.46 | tdeforest | yeah |
16:10.55 | smootar | We have a good candidate for the project lead though, correct? |
16:11.04 | tdeforest | any suggestions? i plan on trying to reconnect this week |
16:11.05 | tdeforest | yes |
16:11.12 | tdeforest | timriker has his info |
16:11.13 | smootar | He is the one that will be working with Mel. |
16:11.17 | tdeforest | right |
16:11.33 | smootar | I would push to get our lead hired and go from there. |
16:11.34 | tdeforest | one candidate is out of the running |
16:11.41 | tdeforest | k |
16:11.42 | smootar | The lead will be full time and that will be his only job. |
16:11.46 | smootar | I think that will make a difference. |
16:11.51 | tdeforest | sounds good |
16:12.06 | tdeforest | the only other remaining candidate has not sent me a resume |
16:12.21 | smootar | Hmmm, that isn't a good sign. |
16:12.49 | tdeforest | i feel good about the one i interviewed and am interested in hearing timriker's review |
16:13.02 | smootar | Very good, does he have a time setup for that? |
16:13.06 | smootar | TimRiker? |
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16:13.19 | tdeforest | i don't know |
16:13.31 | smootar | ~seen TimRiker |
16:13.44 | infobot | timriker <~TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #ldstech, 2d 18h 43m 47s ago, saying: 'can't complain. but sometimes I still do'. |
16:14.48 | smootar | Anything else tdeforest ? |
16:14.54 | tdeforest | i made a change to the banner but haven't committed it |
16:15.01 | tdeforest | it can be reviewed here: https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-521 |
16:15.28 | tdeforest | the homepage banner doesn't match the others and it isn't obvious that it is a link, thus the change |
16:15.50 | tdeforest | that is all |
16:15.52 | smootar | Nice and clean. |
16:16.35 | smootar | I've been in discussions about LDSTech with Meeting House Technologies and the architects. |
16:16.36 | scgallafent | Much better |
16:17.00 | smootar | There are many different audiences that come to LDSTech. |
16:17.27 | tdeforest | smootar: agreed |
16:17.32 | scgallafent | nods |
16:17.45 | smootar | We have discussed with Ted Boren a plan to find out who all comes to LDSTech and why. |
16:17.58 | tdeforest | i'm looking forward to the results of that |
16:18.01 | scgallafent | claps :) |
16:18.19 | smootar | Once we get a good view of all of the audiences, we can discuss potential changes that will address each audience. |
16:18.35 | tdeforest | sounds good |
16:18.43 | smootar | There were 5 audiences identified in a meeting that I had on Thursday. But there may be more. |
16:19.04 | scgallafent | Any idea how that will happen? Online survey? |
16:19.13 | smootar | Anyway, I will keep you posted. |
16:19.19 | tdeforest | i've been trying to get the mtg recordings from johnsonth |
16:19.20 | smootar | Yes Online Survey is what he has done in the past. |
16:19.21 | KFitz | which audiences did you identify? |
16:20.00 | smootar | thinks. |
16:20.16 | KFitz | *Rick Perry* ;) |
16:20.30 | scgallafent | laughs |
16:20.44 | smootar | LDSTech Project workers. |
16:21.02 | smootar | Stake Technology Specialists. |
16:21.17 | smootar | General Membership interested in the latest technology. |
16:21.54 | smootar | Architects - Bryan Austad wants to start publishing and having discussions. |
16:22.29 | josephscott | hasn't built a bridge in years, but it always sounds like fun |
16:22.37 | scgallafent | Architects as in buildings? (aec.ldschurch.org) |
16:22.43 | smootar | Can't remember the last one. |
16:22.50 | smootar | Software Architects. |
16:23.05 | KFitz | neither could rick, its ok alan |
16:23.06 | smootar | He wants to discuss software archtecure that isn't related to any specific project. |
16:23.07 | josephscott | oh cool, I'd never seen aec.ldschurch.org before |
16:23.22 | smootar | feels picked on by KFitz |
16:23.42 | scgallafent | But did you laugh? |
16:23.51 | smootar | The last one is Internal ICS / Church Employees. |
16:24.16 | smootar | There are probably more audiences, but we will find out through the survey. |
16:24.32 | scgallafent | Would people looking for information related to a calling issue (clerks, building schedulers, etc.) fall into stake technology specialists? |
16:24.38 | smootar | sobbing in the corner. |
16:24.43 | smootar | :) |
16:24.53 | scgallafent | Someone give smootar a hug. |
16:25.01 | tdeforest | ~give smootar a hug |
16:25.02 | infobot | ACTION gives a hug to smootar |
16:25.03 | smootar | I think it depends on the purpose of their visit. |
16:25.15 | smootar | If the purpose is the same, yes. |
16:25.24 | smootar | feels better. |
16:25.33 | scgallafent | I see two subgroups there: |
16:25.40 | smootar | They will catagorize by why the come. |
16:25.58 | scgallafent | stake technology specialists looking for more general information and people looking for specific information related to a problem they're experiencing with technology in their calling. |
16:26.07 | smootar | wonders where TimRiker is. |
16:26.25 | smootar | Right. |
16:26.31 | scgallafent | saw a passing tribe of bedouins |
16:26.39 | smootar | :) |
16:26.51 | josephscott | the forum threads provide lots of details on who and why people come to tech.lds.org |
16:27.02 | smootar | josephscott, great point |
16:27.04 | josephscott | goes back to lurking now |
16:27.29 | smootar | The forums are by far the most visited area on LDSTech. |
16:27.59 | smootar | We have great Forum Moderators. |
16:28.12 | smootar | KFitz, do you have anything? |
16:28.14 | KFitz | no |
16:28.20 | scgallafent | It might be good to ask them to characterize why they see people visiting. |
16:28.27 | KFitz | you still havent come by, so I am feeling a little down about that |
16:28.43 | smootar | KFitz, coming after this meeting. |
16:29.12 | KFitz | I'm good, GA scratched my back |
16:29.22 | smootar | The survey will be free form at first. |
16:29.29 | smootar | Then they can narrow afterward. |
16:29.43 | smootar | It will be interesting to see the results. |
16:29.51 | smootar | We don't have a time yet, just early discussion. |
16:29.58 | smootar | I don't have a lot of budget to spend on this kind of thing. |
16:30.07 | KFitz | how is the survey going out? |
16:30.19 | smootar | bringing a back scratcher. |
16:30.34 | smootar | It will prompt people when they arrive if they are will to take a survey. |
16:30.39 | scgallafent | I'm imagining one of those popup surveys (except a little less obtrusive). |
16:30.44 | smootar | So, it won't force but will give people an opportunity. |
16:30.58 | smootar | scgallafent, we should chat. |
16:31.11 | smootar | OK, times up. Anything else? |
16:31.14 | scgallafent | Just ping me when you have time. |
16:31.23 | smootar | will do. |
16:31.26 | smootar | ************************************************* |
16:31.26 | smootar | ***** End - LDSTech Meeting - 21 NOV 2011 ******* |
16:31.26 | smootar | ************************************************* |
16:31.29 | smootar | Thanks everyone. |
16:31.36 | smootar | still looking for TimRiker. |
16:31.40 | josephscott | ok, just one more, http://aec.ldschurch.org/ redirects to http://aec.ldschurch.org/aec/ (lame) |
16:31.41 | tdeforest | ciao |
16:31.51 | josephscott | ~find timriker |
16:32.29 | scgallafent | josephscott: I agree. I also find it difficult to remember that it's aec.ldschurch.org and not aec.lds.org. I understand why, but that doesn't mean it sticks in my brain. |
16:32.46 | josephscott | yep, need to pick one and stick with it |
16:32.53 | smootar | would like to see this kind of thing fixed. |
16:33.20 | smootar | I did see movement on our email addresses from ldschurch.org to lds.org. We will see how far it gets. |
16:33.41 | smootar | walks over to see KFitz. |
16:33.47 | scgallafent | I've always assumed that lds.org was intended to be "doctrinal" and ldschurch.org "administrative." |
16:33.56 | KFitz | lds.org = ecclesiastical ldschurch.org = adminstrative |
16:34.08 | KFitz | what scallagent said |
16:34.14 | scgallafent | likes KFitz's word (ecclesiastical) better |
16:35.01 | josephscott | a difference that likely no one outside of ICS will know about |
16:35.21 | scgallafent | Good point |
16:35.28 | KFitz | yup Joseph |
16:35.42 | scgallafent | grins |
16:36.15 | scgallafent | Of all the people to find, you would think TimRiker would be Debian's favorite. |
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18:45.06 | tdeforest | does anyone here use phpgedview? just installed it on my own site. although the interface is antiquated and clunky it seems to work well. |
19:01.01 | smootar | Audience list from someone elses notes for tech.lds.org: |
19:01.01 | smootar | * Community volunteers |
19:01.02 | smootar | * Members with technology callings (stake technology specialists, website administrators, clerks, family history directors, facility managers, etc.) |
19:01.02 | smootar | * Techie members |
19:01.02 | smootar | * News publishers looking for technology stories |
19:01.02 | smootar | * Church IT employees |
19:01.32 | smootar | I would add architects to this list. Bryan Austad's audience. |
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20:07.48 | estebanweb | hi |
20:07.53 | estebanweb | i have a question |
20:08.37 | estebanweb | i need an jira account |
20:08.39 | josephscott | estebanweb: ? |
20:09.12 | josephscott | jira account setup and permissions are tied to joining each project and what role you have on the project |
20:10.49 | estebanweb | I already joined a project |
20:11.42 | estebanweb | but I figured as "observer" |
20:16.51 | josephscott | I think that gets your read access to jira, don't recall specifically which roles map to which permissions in jira |
20:17.11 | josephscott | was there a particular project you were looking at? |
20:22.29 | estebanweb | is phpstack |
20:24.04 | smootar | estebanweb, are you a developer? |
20:24.28 | estebanweb | yes i am |
20:24.53 | estebanweb | php. perl, Java, etc |
20:25.00 | smootar | I have just made you a developer on that project. |
20:25.17 | scgallafent | PHPStack doesn't have a lot of activity. |
20:25.37 | smootar | That is true. Is there any tasks that are outstanding? |
20:25.47 | smootar | s/Is/Are/ |
20:26.15 | scgallafent | Not a lot. Work on that generally gets done when someone runs into a problem in the stack while working on a different project. |
20:26.20 | josephscott | not directly |
20:26.43 | scgallafent | The active PHP projects I know of are RecProp, some work being done on BSIR. |
20:26.44 | estebanweb | ok |
20:26.45 | josephscott | I started a separate branch (kib) to test a few things, used those on swarm |
20:26.52 | scgallafent | Swarm is anotehr. |
20:26.59 | scgallafent | s/anotehr/another/ |
20:27.05 | estebanweb | BSIR? what is this? |
20:27.39 | scgallafent | Bishops' Storehouse Inventory Reporting system. I know there is some active development being done it, but I don't know how much. Most of what is being done is reporting. |
20:27.50 | scgallafent | I've seen commits in the past few days, so I know it's getting activity. |
20:28.21 | estebanweb | ok |
20:28.34 | scgallafent | We could put you to work on RecProp. Have you looked at that project? |
20:29.22 | josephscott | recprop is where most of the php action is right now I'd say, with swarm starting to ramp up |
20:29.34 | estebanweb | I apply to the project and look in what I help |
20:30.17 | estebanweb | back to the original question, how do I get a JIRA account? |
20:30.27 | scgallafent | You need to be added to a project to be provisioned in Jira. |
20:30.39 | estebanweb | ok |
20:30.47 | estebanweb | thanks folks |
20:30.47 | scgallafent | Join RecProp and let me know when you've done that. |
20:31.10 | estebanweb | where is RecProp ? |
20:31.19 | scgallafent | Recreation Properties in the project list. |
20:31.48 | scgallafent | https://tech.lds.org/?option=com_talentpool&controller=projects&view=joinproject&Itemid=39&joinid=620 |
20:31.51 | josephscott | is there a specific ticket you are trying to file in Jira? Just wondering why if there was something specific you are trying to find in Jira |
20:32.47 | estebanweb | ready, I'm in RecProp |
20:32.56 | scgallafent | OK. |
20:33.26 | estebanweb | just trying to see what could help |
20:33.41 | scgallafent | I've changed your role. Now see if you can see Jira for that project. |
20:35.12 | estebanweb | thanks |
20:35.19 | scgallafent | Do you see Jira for the project? |
20:35.24 | estebanweb | yes |
20:35.43 | scgallafent | I'm jumping into Jira. |
20:36.08 | scgallafent | Go to the road map and then to version 2.10 |
20:36.21 | scgallafent | Then go to issues |
20:39.26 | estebanweb | i will donwload the project and see |
20:39.38 | scgallafent | OK. We'll be here if you have trouble getting it running. |
20:41.06 | estebanweb | thanks again |
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