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| 16:20.34 | TimRikerEvo4G | moin |
| 16:20.47 | tdeforest | howdy |
| 16:21.41 | TimRikerEvo4G | sleepy. we're down in st george. |
| 16:22.20 | TimRikerEvo4G | found some bugs with mixed case usernames in the joomla admin tool |
| 16:22.55 | TimRikerEvo4G | I'll be working on that today. hope to get to the f5 rules too |
| 16:24.17 | TimRikerEvo4G | smootar is out. should have a new intern in the office, but he should be in training meetings most of the morning |
| 16:25.22 | JoshBang | We have a new service missionary too |
| 16:25.27 | TimRikerEvo4G | JoshBang. you're in the office, yes? |
| 16:25.35 | JoshBang | Yup |
| 16:26.07 | TimRikerEvo4G | oh, yeah. sry. tht's who I meant. |
| 16:26.31 | JoshBang | I am going to take the new service missionary to orientation, I will be back in a couple minutes. |
| 16:26.54 | TimRikerEvo4G | I over slept, but I'll be online hee. |
| 16:27.02 | TimRikerEvo4G | er here |
| 16:27.33 | TimRikerEvo4G | svnrm should be working in cdev again. |
| 16:27.41 | TimRikerEvo4G | k |
| 16:28.25 | TimRikerEvo4G | anything else? |
| 16:28.51 | tdeforest | ted boren got the true user intent code snippets to me this morning. we were expecting them last week so we could run the tests last weekend. don't know if smootar wants to run them now or wait until after christmas when we can run them over a normal weekend. |
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| 16:30.51 | TimRikerEvo4G | sry. call. might as well start now |
| 16:31.18 | TimRikerEvo4G | we can always restrict by date later |
| 16:32.59 | TimRikerEvo4G | I can get those setup if you like. email me the snippits |
| 16:33.16 | tdeforest | i'll forward you the email |
| 16:34.09 | TimRikerEvo4G | k |
| 16:37.48 | JoshBang | So do you want me to start testing on the svnrm? |
| 16:39.56 | TimRikerEvo4G | yep |
| 16:42.01 | JoshBang | K, I think I remember how to do it. Where do I find names that I can add to projects? . |
| 16:45.46 | JoshBang | TimRikerEvo4G, When I delete someone off of a project, should it delete it on the svnrm website? |
| 16:48.14 | TimRikerEvo4G | should remove them from a project when younrempve them, but I don't know that we handle deleting a user completely |
| 16:50.24 | JoshBang | So I added someone on the cdev site and it showed up on the svnrm, but then I deleted the person from the project on cdev and it still shows up on the svnrm, is that normal? |
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| 16:53.24 | TimRikerEvo4G | nope |
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| 16:55.03 | TimRiker | yawns and moins. |
| 16:55.13 | TimRiker | easier to type on a full sized keyboard. |
| 16:55.26 | JoshBang | True that |
| 16:56.08 | TimRiker | adding a member to a project in joomla should add them in svnrm. removing a member from a project in joomla should remove them in svnrm. if it does not, open a ticket on that. |
| 16:56.26 | JoshBang | Will do |
| 16:56.28 | JoshBang | Thanks |
| 16:59.18 | JoshBang | What project is this? Is it just the LDSTech project? |
| 16:59.28 | TimRiker | yes. ldstech project. |
| 16:59.35 | TimRiker | joomla module |
| 16:59.44 | JoshBang | K |
| 17:05.25 | JoshBang | TimRiker, sorry to bother you again but when I make a new project, do I need to do anything to it to make it show up on the SVNRM site? |
| 17:09.21 | TimRiker | just adding an svn path should add the project. |
| 17:10.40 | JoshBang | Oh I forgot to add that... my bad |
| 17:11.13 | JoshBang | Do I add that in the project URL or Subversion URL? |
| 17:12.09 | TimRiker | subversion url. |
| 17:12.27 | TimRiker | something like https://cdev.lds.org/svn/<project name> |
| 17:12.38 | JoshBang | Perfect thanks |
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| 17:12.53 | TimRiker | usually with lower case letters only. jira wants uppercase only, and no numbers. |
| 17:12.58 | TimRiker | ~lart jira |
| 17:12.58 | infobot | blames jira for all the evil in the world |
| 17:13.17 | JoshBang | ok |
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| 17:21.29 | JoshBang | TimRiker, You probably hate me by now, but I made this as the subversion URL httpos://cdev.lds.org/svn/post post is the name of the project. That should go under Repositories on the SVNRM site now correct? |
| 17:22.16 | JoshBang | I meant https not httpos |
| 17:28.25 | TimRiker | yep. what happened? |
| 17:28.38 | JoshBang | It didnt show up on svnrm |
| 17:28.59 | JoshBang | Report in Jira? |
| 17:29.26 | TimRiker | sure. =/ |
| 17:51.58 | JoshBang | TimRiker, So I have just been doing random things like adding permissions and then taking them off, what else can I do to test it besides creating projects and adding and deleting new members to a project? |
| 18:01.42 | TimRiker | should be able to remove the svn for a project and then add the existing repository back. |
| 18:01.52 | TimRiker | it probably will not remove or re-add anyone at this stage. |
| 18:05.16 | TimRiker | I'm updating the sync tools a bit and noticing a lot of people/projects that are out of sync. |
| 18:05.34 | JoshBang | So delete the subversion URL and then re add it? |
| 18:07.32 | TimRiker | yep |
| 18:08.48 | JoshBang | k |
| 18:14.58 | JoshBang | That didnt work either, I just opened a ticket for that on Jira. |
| 18:15.44 | TimRiker | k. svnrm was updated on production. we should be able to enable it there after we fix the issues. |
| 18:16.09 | JoshBang | Sounds good |
| 18:21.22 | TimRiker | tdeforest, are we planing to add the tracking changes to cdev and test there first? are you going to check them in there? |
| 18:22.09 | tdeforest | i think it is a good idea to test them on cdev |
| 18:22.55 | TimRiker | ok. can you add the files to the repository and check them in? they we'll see if we've broken anything. we'll want the includes in wiki, jira and forum with the popup only on the joomla home page I think. |
| 18:23.29 | tdeforest | k. i'll work on that. |
| 18:23.32 | TimRiker | is in tdeforest office clothes. guess I should shower sometime. :) |
| 18:23.54 | tdeforest | showering is for suckers :) |
| 18:25.32 | TimRiker | hehe. the family is starting to stay away from me and the couch. I think that's a hint. |
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| 18:29.25 | TimRiker | off for a bit. back soon. |
| 19:15.41 | TimRiker | how's that looking tdeforest? |
| 19:16.02 | tdeforest | just checked in the files with changes to joomla |
| 19:16.23 | tdeforest | getting an error 'unexpected' token. |
| 19:16.56 | tdeforest | i put the files in a location outside of joomla so that wiki and forum can point to them too |
| 19:17.04 | tdeforest | dir is loop11 |
| 19:17.21 | TimRiker | I see: XML can't be the whole program |
| 19:18.06 | tdeforest | making a change |
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| 19:18.54 | TimRiker | ugh... /me updates the wrong tree. |
| 19:19.46 | tdeforest | :/ |
| 19:20.09 | tdeforest | i removed the extra script tags that were causing the error |
| 19:20.40 | tdeforest | is looking at how to add these file to the wiki footer and header... |
| 19:21.49 | TimRiker | probably in the ldstech.php skin |
| 19:22.02 | tdeforest | ah. didn't look there |
| 19:27.32 | tdeforest | wiki…check |
| 19:27.46 | tdeforest | forum…hmmm…i don't have a local copy that works |
| 19:29.57 | tdeforest | attempts to fix config file |
| 19:35.31 | tdeforest | config file fixed |
| 19:37.35 | tdeforest | not sure where to add the files to the forum either |
| 19:38.16 | tdeforest | also, i set the location of the files relative to the root but that will probably cause a problem on production... |
| 19:47.10 | TimRiker | yep. it will. |
| 19:47.45 | TimRiker | where they are now won't be visible on the web in production. need to be under joomla/ or similar. |
| 19:48.02 | tdeforest | k. |
| 19:48.15 | tdeforest | moving... |
| 19:49.33 | tdeforest | cdev and local have 'ldstech' in the url. production doesn't. how should I work around this? |
| 19:50.25 | tdeforest | the only thing i can think is pass in custom url based on domain? is this a good idea or a bad idea? |
| 19:56.13 | TimRiker | there are some defines that are used to get the links in the top menu. you should use those. :) |
| 19:56.56 | TimRiker | wgJoomlaPath in the wiki |
| 19:59.51 | tdeforest | ooo. nice. |
| 20:01.06 | TimRiker | fixed jira group lookups for the administrator page. :) |
| 20:02.03 | TimRiker | filtering is still very very slow, but edituser and table display are fast. they use html scraping as there's no jira api to lookup groups for a user. |
| 20:04.37 | JoshBang | TimRiker, Tyler Castaldo, the new intern, doesnt have anything to do. The loaner computer wont be ready for about an hour. Do you know what he should do? |
| 20:05.12 | TimRiker | give him a portable device and have him walk through the cdev site. |
| 20:05.14 | JoshBang | I thought about the Gospel Library for Android, but Im not sure if there isnt anything more pressing that he should do |
| 20:05.20 | JoshBang | perfect, will do |
| 20:05.26 | TimRiker | gl android would also be good. :) |
| 20:15.46 | tdeforest | TimRiker: wgJoomlaPath is empty, doesn't return anything on my local machine. works on cdev. i must be missing something |
| 20:16.28 | TimRiker | should have that in LocalSettings.php at the bottom. on cdev it's this: |
| 20:16.46 | TimRiker | / Paths |
| 20:16.46 | TimRiker | $wgJiraPath = '../../jira/'; |
| 20:16.46 | TimRiker | $wgJoomlaPath = '../joomla/'; |
| 20:17.00 | tdeforest | ah |
| 20:26.36 | TimRiker | makes the project role a link to the admin edit of project roles... |
| 20:26.52 | TimRiker | https://cdev.lds.org/ldstech/joomla/administrator/index.php?option=com_talentpool&task=edituser&id=1 |
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| 20:29.45 | tdeforest | nice |
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| 20:30.09 | rstegeby | hi all =) |
| 20:30.17 | tdeforest | howdy |
| 20:30.38 | rstegeby | just curious when the lds library will have multilanguage support, in swedish for example ;) |
| 20:32.42 | TimRiker | browse the gospel-library webml tree and see if there is content there. |
| 20:33.29 | TimRiker | https://code.lds.org/wsvn/wsvn/gospel-library/ldsWebML/swedish/ |
| 20:33.59 | TimRiker | that's what we would have if someone gets it ready for inclusion. |
| 20:36.31 | rstegeby | can't seem to find the actual scriptures there.. |
| 20:36.46 | rstegeby | find some liahonas, manuals etc.. |
| 20:41.34 | rstegeby | is there a way to contribute to make it go faster? |
| 20:41.45 | rstegeby | my wife really wants it in swedish ;) |
| 20:41.55 | rstegeby | also the hymns would be nice =) |
| 20:46.02 | tdeforest | for the hymns they're starting with the languages that are available on the hymns/music website |
| 20:46.21 | tdeforest | http://lds.org/churchmusic/ rstegeby |
| 20:47.11 | rstegeby | ok |
| 20:47.14 | rstegeby | I'll have a look |
| 20:47.26 | tdeforest | rstegeby: there is an iOS hymns project that is working on translation right now |
| 20:48.40 | rstegeby | ok |
| 20:49.02 | rstegeby | how about iOS library project? |
| 20:49.41 | tdeforest | looks like they're also working on french at the moment according to the description on tech.lds.org. google group at ldstech-lds-music-for-ios |
| 20:50.06 | tdeforest | on iOS i haven't heard of work on additional languages |
| 20:50.51 | TimRiker | jira groups lookup does not work on production yet as our jira is not wam enabled. :( |
| 20:51.11 | tdeforest | TimRiker: can you tell me how to link to the joomla files from the forum? |
| 20:51.48 | TimRiker | tdeforest, dunno off hand. sry |
| 20:55.11 | rstegeby | would be nice to help with the swedish for iOS if I can.. |
| 20:56.57 | TimRiker | JoshBang, how long are you around today? want to start checking permissions on jira in production? |
| 20:57.31 | JoshBang | I am here until 5:00. Yeah I can start that |
| 20:58.02 | JoshBang | What do you mean permissions on jira in production? |
| 20:59.01 | TimRiker | I just made you an admin on jira. walk through with me.. log onto tech |
| 20:59.34 | JoshBang | k |
| 20:59.36 | TimRiker | pick the Admin menu. you should be logged into the administrator page. |
| 20:59.52 | JoshBang | K |
| 21:00.23 | TimRiker | pick components->talent pool |
| 21:00.40 | JoshBang | There |
| 21:01.30 | TimRiker | k. in the select project, try picking cpas |
| 21:01.49 | TimRiker | ie: Child Protection Act System |
| 21:02.10 | TimRiker | now look at srayhunter's line |
| 21:02.44 | TimRiker | you there? |
| 21:02.54 | JoshBang | Now I am |
| 21:03.52 | TimRiker | see how srayhunter's line has his joomla role as developer, but he does not have the jira role? |
| 21:04.11 | JoshBang | yeah, it says hes missing |
| 21:04.36 | TimRiker | oh. sry, we're probably sorted differently so you had to page down to find him. |
| 21:04.45 | JoshBang | Its all good |
| 21:05.09 | TimRiker | k. click on srayhunter in the users column |
| 21:05.17 | JoshBang | k |
| 21:06.19 | TimRiker | that's the only project he's in. some are in multiples. copy his username, click the MISSING link, add him to the developers group (as that's what joomla says) then refresh this page. |
| 21:07.29 | TimRiker | ie: use the edit link in the developers group box. |
| 21:08.16 | TimRiker | then "Add user(s) to Project Role" type the _lowercase_ version of a users ldsaccount in here to add them to that jira role. then hit add. |
| 21:08.22 | JoshBang | My access was denied |
| 21:08.28 | TimRiker | neato. |
| 21:08.52 | JoshBang | that was back when I clicked on the "missing" link |
| 21:08.59 | TimRiker | k. worked for me. must me jira permissions. hang on. |
| 21:09.08 | JoshBang | Ok |
| 21:09.31 | TimRiker | k. try now. |
| 21:09.48 | JoshBang | It worked |
| 21:10.20 | TimRiker | k. let's find another.. gl ios is a good project to look for issues in. one more thing.... |
| 21:10.28 | JoshBang | Do I just put his username into the "add group to project role |
| 21:11.17 | TimRiker | if they have NOT signed the ICLA, they will have a -0001.11.30 in the ICLA field. ignore people that are set like that. |
| 21:11.25 | TimRiker | yes. I already added sray though. |
| 21:11.29 | TimRiker | let's find another. |
| 21:11.34 | JoshBang | Oh, ok |
| 21:12.14 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/administrator/index.php?option=com_talentpool&task=edituser&id=3432 |
| 21:12.24 | TimRiker | see if you can fix that one. |
| 21:12.32 | JoshBang | k |
| 21:13.59 | JoshBang | It just told me that nclement doesnt exist |
| 21:14.29 | JoshBang | nevermind |
| 21:14.43 | JoshBang | I was in the wrong thing |
| 21:16.25 | JoshBang | Was I supposed to add nclement to the users or groups? |
| 21:18.03 | JoshBang | When I try and add his name to the group, it says that it doesnt exist. I added him to the users... should I delete him from that? |
| 21:18.47 | TimRiker | hmm.. let me look at what you did. :) |
| 21:19.37 | TimRiker | looks great now. you figured it out then? |
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| 21:20.22 | JoshBang | Dont think so... I never did anything for the group. All I did was add the username to the "Users" box |
| 21:22.24 | TimRiker | should have been the developers box, no? |
| 21:22.44 | JoshBang | It was the Developers and users box. |
| 21:22.58 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/jira/secure/project/ViewProjectRoleActors.jspa?projectId=10021 from this page... |
| 21:23.12 | JoshBang | MY BAD! I mean the users colum |
| 21:23.14 | JoshBang | colub |
| 21:23.19 | TimRiker | choose developers edit. which takes you here... |
| 21:23.31 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/jira/secure/project/UserRoleActorAction.jspa?projectRoleId=10001&projectId=10021 |
| 21:23.47 | TimRiker | now you're editing the members of the developers group for this project. |
| 21:23.49 | JoshBang | ok so I did do it right haha my bad |
| 21:24.06 | JoshBang | I thoght that I was supposed to edit the developers groups box |
| 21:24.48 | TimRiker | k. :) that's it then. you're on the right track. we have users that are out of sync. those that are in the developers role are the more critical. so you can filter on the list view by project role if you like. |
| 21:25.32 | JoshBang | Ok cool, what projects should I do? should I start from the top or are there some that have already been looked at? |
| 21:27.18 | JoshBang | I will just go down the list, There are a lot of them in the Bishops' storehouse project |
| 21:28.11 | TimRiker | remember to avoid those without a valid icla date |
| 21:28.31 | JoshBang | ok |
| 21:28.50 | JoshBang | Do I just leave those as missing then? |
| 21:30.26 | TimRiker | if they have an invalid ICLA, they yes, just leave them be. |
| 21:30.43 | TimRiker | need to get our JIRA WAM enabled before we can really tell what's happening with them. |
| 21:30.59 | JoshBang | K, and it is only invalid if it is a bunch of 0's right? Everything else is good? |
| 21:31.37 | TimRiker | I'm making the JIRA column label a link so that we can see all the user's roles. |
| 21:32.01 | TimRiker | the ICLA date needs to be newer than the date of the current ICLA. |
| 21:32.14 | TimRiker | which is 2011-03-10 11:03 at present. |
| 21:33.37 | TimRiker | remember that usernames in jira MUST be lower case. and it will NOT autoconvert them for you. so if you try to add an upper case name it will fail. |
| 21:34.13 | JoshBang | Is that March or October? |
| 21:34.18 | JoshBang | Im guessing march |
| 21:34.32 | JoshBang | ok |
| 21:35.36 | TimRiker | march |
| 21:35.55 | TimRiker | observers in a project should be have the "Users" project role. |
| 21:36.15 | TimRiker | developer in a project should have the Developers role. |
| 21:36.20 | JoshBang | Ok |
| 21:36.40 | TimRiker | project managers are Project Managers, Writers, Writers, QA, QA, etc. |
| 21:37.00 | JoshBang | Sounds good |
| 21:42.38 | tdeforest | i've added user intent study files to joomla and wiki. i can't figure out how to add them to joomla |
| 21:42.43 | tdeforest | durp |
| 21:42.55 | tdeforest | i can't figure out how to add them to the forum |
| 21:44.22 | tdeforest | i tried editing vbulletin-style.xml but it doesn't seem to change anything. |
| 21:47.40 | tdeforest | vbulletin manual doesn't help. for example this page tells how to include custom css https://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/templates_externalfiles but i can't locate the additional.css file or headinclude_bottom template |
| 21:47.49 | tdeforest | bangs his head on the wall |
| 22:09.59 | TimRiker | probably needs to be in the admincp/ interface someplace. |
| 22:10.52 | TimRiker | actually should work in global.php |
| 22:15.15 | TimRiker | checked in a whitespace cleanup on global.php. hope I didn't mess you up. :) |
| 22:15.29 | TimRiker | JoshBang, how's it coming? |
| 22:15.36 | TimRiker | tedious but working? :) |
| 22:15.53 | JoshBang | Pretty good, I'm on the Gospel Library for Android at the moment |
| 22:16.43 | JoshBang | I clicked on one person that was part of a bunch of different groups and tons of them were missing on his, so I just went through all of his and filled them in |
| 22:18.39 | TimRiker | neat. that's the kind of thing we're looking for. :) |
| 22:18.57 | TimRiker | used to be a pain to find these people. at least this new tool makes that part easier. |
| 22:19.29 | TimRiker | once I get bolder, I'll make it fix them all when you hit save. right now it only tries to fix membership in jira-users |
| 22:20.04 | TimRiker | need to add info for svn and gg to the tables. |
| 22:20.43 | JoshBang | ok |
| 22:40.06 | JoshBang | TimRiker, What does web designer fall under? Writer? |
| 22:40.37 | TimRiker | dunno. leave those alone and we'll talk about it more. |
| 22:40.44 | JoshBang | fair enough |
| 22:51.01 | TimRiker | added e receive emails column to the report. should really add a filter on that and not just a sort. |
| 23:26.04 | JoshBang | TimRiker, I am done filling in the developers jira roles. Do you want me to do the others also? |
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| 23:49.21 | TimRiker | sure, if you have time. check project managers first. They should be better. |
| 23:50.32 | JoshBang | K |
| 23:58.29 | JoshBang | Project managers are done as well. |
| 23:59.11 | JoshBang | Im off, thanks for the help TimRiker |