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15:23.49 | smootar | Just reading dbkjar's question about having the broadcast available for Saturday. |
15:24.10 | smootar | We are using the Brightcove streaming server. |
15:24.26 | smootar | This means that the broadcast will be available from the moment we start forward. |
15:24.42 | smootar | Anyone can join even a few minutes late and rewind and watch it. |
15:24.57 | smootar | It will be available on Saturday as well. |
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16:03.27 | thehpguy | moin tdefort |
16:03.38 | tdeforest | howdy |
16:03.59 | tdeforest | tccastaldo: we meeting this morning? |
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16:07.37 | thehpguy | morning BroSki |
16:07.48 | tdeforest | testing, testing, one two. is this thing on? |
16:07.51 | BroSki | Morning..got your message on email |
16:07.58 | _liz | check check |
16:08.21 | thehpguy | grins at tdeforest |
16:08.34 | thehpguy | moin _liz |
16:08.46 | thehpguy | waves @ _lis |
16:09.02 | samd | test |
16:10.37 | BroSki | 10-4 samd, _liz & tdeforest |
16:11.06 | tdeforest | waves at BroSki |
16:11.46 | scgallafent | moin tdeforest |
16:11.58 | tdeforest | howdy scgallafent |
16:13.56 | tdeforest | scgallafent: i've got time for gg testing today. how is gg doing? |
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16:15.20 | scgallafent | I was dealing with other issues and didn't get to work on it yesterday. Once I turn loose the code I'm working on now, it should be ready for you to beat on. It will probably be a couple of hours. |
16:15.22 | BroSki | I have a testflight device registration question...is this the right venue |
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16:15.39 | RPartridge | Jared_, Are you the one with the broken screen? |
16:15.40 | scgallafent | crosses fingers |
16:16.11 | scgallafent | tdeforest: Who would be able to help BroSki? |
16:16.37 | Jared_ | Yes. I'm on my phone. |
16:16.43 | tdeforest | scgallafent: wish i could help BroSki - i don't even know where the test flight resources are accessed |
16:17.04 | tdeforest | i would try stephan heilner |
16:17.24 | tdeforest | BroSki: do you have his contact info? |
16:17.32 | BroSki | I am trying to help a member trying to register a iOS device and they are being prompted to enter a 4 digit code...I have no clue where to sent them |
16:17.58 | BroSki | There should be no prompting for a 4 digit code, as far as I know |
16:18.01 | tdeforest | register an iOS device? with test flight? |
16:21.14 | BroSki | Also....smootar, thehpguy is interested in getting his provisioning done and get his email up and running |
16:22.03 | thehpguy | :) |
16:22.12 | BroSki | Yes, tdeforest, that is what they are attempting |
16:22.40 | tdeforest | BroSki: let me try calling stephan... |
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16:25.55 | tdeforest | BroSki: stephan was on the other line but he is going to call me back in a minute |
16:26.33 | BroSki | K thx |
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16:31.28 | tdeforest | johnsonth: saw your note about delaying the newsletter. how's today looking? |
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16:31.44 | johnsonth | today is good. |
16:31.49 | johnsonth | I will work on sending you something soon. |
16:31.56 | tdeforest | waves at josephscott |
16:32.05 | josephscott | howdy |
16:32.06 | tdeforest | johnsonth: sounds good |
16:32.51 | tccastaldo | Good morning, folks. |
16:33.22 | BroSki | Looks like testflight may be down http://support.testflightapp.com/discussions/problems/3052-is-testflight-down |
16:36.48 | tdeforest | BroSki: hmmm... |
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16:40.18 | jstowell | . |
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16:42.51 | samd | got lost...i'm back |
16:44.42 | KrebsJ | Testing 1.2.3. |
16:45.22 | KrebsJ | Hello Rick |
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16:47.29 | tccastaldo | Hello, Ben__. |
16:47.32 | Ben__ | This is a test chat |
16:47.46 | KrebsJ | That answer is 5 |
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16:49.28 | TimRiker | moin |
16:49.56 | TimRiker | looks like we've overfilled the limits on connections from one ip (proxy.lds.org) |
16:50.15 | TimRiker | webchat will work, but native clients will likely get denied. |
16:50.32 | scgallafent | Is it a per-server limit or system-wide? |
16:51.01 | tccastaldo | That's fun... |
16:51.45 | josephscott | sudden increase in IRC usage from church employees? |
16:54.33 | normankr | test |
16:54.55 | scgallafent | Hi normankr |
16:55.05 | TimRiker | josephscott: we're using the channel for live support for the noon broadcast. :) |
16:55.12 | josephscott | woot! |
16:55.37 | scgallafent | Plus the two rebroadcasts. Double woot! |
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16:55.59 | TimRiker | are you coming in today? we have a bunch of folks here online. I did get ahold of a freenode op, so perhaps we'll get our proxy limit increased. |
16:56.43 | TimRiker | Closing Link: proxy.lds.org (Too many user connections (global)) |
16:56.57 | scgallafent | Bummer. |
16:57.47 | Picard | whoami |
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17:00.42 | josephscott | TimRiker: were you asking if I'm coming in today? |
17:01.46 | TimRiker | josephscott: yep. we'll be here 9-5. broadcast at noon. test run in progress now. |
17:02.00 | BroSki | ttfn |
17:02.00 | TimRiker | I don't know if we're streaming the test run... anyone know? |
17:02.11 | josephscott | unfortunately I won't there today, I'm still getting over the shingles :-( |
17:02.20 | KrebsJ | no we aren't streaming the test run |
17:02.23 | josephscott | s/won't there/won't be there/ |
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17:02.43 | TimRiker | ouch. I had that recently. painful. |
17:02.52 | scgallafent | josephscott: Bummer. TimRiker, too. |
17:03.49 | josephscott | yeah, not the most fun thing, had a few days at one point where I wanted to crawl out of my skin |
17:04.19 | josephscott | but doing better, definitely headed in the right direction |
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17:05.04 | scgallafent | Glad to hear that. |
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17:06.31 | samd | I think I have the test run streaming...no audio? |
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17:07.23 | LDSTech | @samd - audio is not enabled yet. Just video during the dry run |
17:11.06 | samd | I am guessing that the video feed will be a bit crisper during the actual broadcast. Right now it is slightly out of focus (blurred) |
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17:24.48 | TimRiker | Riker? Hmm. who are you? :) |
17:28.56 | samd | audio is good |
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17:31.58 | samd | @ldstech - audio is transmitting clear |
17:32.09 | tccastaldo | Good. |
17:32.22 | tccastaldo | :) |
17:38.12 | johnsonth | tedeforest, does mailchimp have spaces for thumbnail images? what kind of format do you want the newsletter content in? |
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17:44.58 | tccastaldo | Why, hello, `ls`. |
17:45.28 | TimRiker | hehe |
17:46.28 | tccastaldo | TimRiker, how are you? |
17:51.36 | johnsonth | tdeforest, also, do we want to group content into sections? |
17:54.53 | zakzakattack | tccastaldo is the service day over? are you in there? i kinda forgot about it |
17:56.07 | tccastaldo | zakzakattack, the broadcast will be at noon today. There are a few of us over here in the Zion rooms, but you can get work done where you're at just fine. |
17:57.27 | zakzakattack | o ok i just panic for a second ha ha. I have had my mind elsewere today. |
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17:59.54 | jazzee8845 | hi |
18:00.17 | jazzee8845 | how are you? |
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18:05.39 | jazzee8845_ | hi |
18:05.49 | Phi__ | Hi |
18:05.54 | scgallafent | Welcome back, jazzee8845_ |
18:06.08 | Phi__ | I couldn't see where to type for the chat! |
18:07.09 | Phi__ | Are you signed in for the LDSTech training session? |
18:07.17 | jazzee8845_ | yes |
18:07.49 | Phi__ | Are you one of the organisers or a learner?! |
18:08.07 | jazzee8845_ | a learner i am intrested in technology |
18:08.33 | Phi__ | Wow, this is so very cool. Never done anything like this. Can I ask which country you are in? |
18:08.44 | jazzee8845_ | Wales |
18:08.58 | Phi__ | HA! The British Isles! Me too! |
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18:09.07 | TimRiker | :) |
18:09.16 | LDSTech | It is great to have you in attendance. Thanks for being here. |
18:09.16 | TimRiker | welcome! |
18:09.28 | Phi__ | Thanks |
18:09.30 | tdeforest | johnsonth: can i preview the content? that will help me know how we want to present it? |
18:09.33 | LDSTech | We will be starting in about 50 minutes. |
18:10.00 | LDSTech | You guys are welcome to chat. |
18:10.04 | jazzee8845_ | i got all the church apps on my blackberry |
18:10.05 | tccastaldo | Good evening, gents! |
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18:10.34 | jazzee8845_ | had a problem with the gospel libary better now |
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18:10.57 | jazzee8845_ | phi what you doing |
18:11.15 | Phi__ | I have the live screen open on another window which will show the video. Just checking that it's still there! :-) |
18:11.24 | jazzee8845_ | you a leader or learner :) |
18:11.39 | Phi__ | I think that's obvious! |
18:11.47 | jazzee8845_ | a learner? |
18:12.09 | Phi__ | Are we not all learners....! too profound?! :) |
18:12.18 | jazzee8845_ | yea |
18:12.24 | Phi__ | :) |
18:12.38 | johnsonth | tdeforest, I thought I just sent it to you. did you receive it? |
18:13.05 | tdeforest | just arrived |
18:13.36 | jazzee8845_ | do you download latest content to your blackberry? |
18:14.43 | jazzee8845_ | 6:00pm |
18:14.48 | jazzee8845_ | here |
18:15.07 | tccastaldo | = GMT, right? |
18:15.12 | jazzee8845_ | yes |
18:15.25 | Phi__ | Wow, you guys sound very tech. I don't even own a blackberry. But I do own an ipod...got that for my b'day last yr...haven't used it yet...! |
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18:16.00 | jazzee8845_ | a ipod is great |
18:16.08 | borand | Guess you are not 100% ready, but you need to 'focuc' the screen... |
18:16.18 | borand | focus |
18:16.31 | jazzee8845_ | the screen is perfect here |
18:16.38 | Phi__ | Yes, so everyone says. I am trying to get over my technophobe...it's still in the box...been there for 2 months! |
18:17.17 | borand | hmmm. the church logo is a bit 'blury'.... guess it is my setup.... |
18:17.27 | Phi__ | Yes it's very blurry here. |
18:17.34 | jazzee8845_ | yes |
18:17.39 | jazzee8845_ | its a little |
18:18.12 | Phi__ | Looks fine when it is small, but when I do it full screen on my netbook it isn't clear. |
18:18.17 | tdeforest | johnsonth: unless we can't do without images, I think we ought to just send out the text. I'll put the content in a template and send it to you to review |
18:19.05 | johnsonth | great, look forward to it. |
18:20.58 | jazzee8845_ | i subscribed |
18:21.20 | borand | yes - when the 'screen' is small, the large letters are 'clear'. but it will be hard to se 'menues' and other selections. When it is maximized so we can se menues... it is blurry.... guess we cant have both.... |
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18:22.21 | jazzee8845_ | hope it dont snow in wales |
18:22.41 | tdeforest | johnsonth: just a note: the newsletter says 2011 |
18:22.59 | johnsonth | oh yeah, it is 2012. |
18:23.07 | johnsonth | i can send you thumbnail images. |
18:23.41 | tdeforest | k |
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18:23.52 | johnsonth | i just sent you a sample newsletter from the mormon channel. |
18:23.59 | johnsonth | will there be a banner in the email? |
18:24.11 | johnsonth | if you could send me that banner, I can route the rest of the content for approval right now. |
18:24.59 | tdeforest | johnsonth: i'm planning on a banner - 600x135 |
18:25.22 | johnsonth | great, just send me something to include. i'll create a word doc with embedded images for ip/cor to review. |
18:25.30 | jazzee8845_ | is Hal there ???? |
18:25.31 | johnsonth | it doesn't have to be the exact size. |
18:25.49 | tdeforest | johnsonth: k. i'll send make that and send it right now |
18:25.52 | tccastaldo | Hal Rushton? |
18:25.53 | jazzee8845_ | i need to speak to Jal |
18:25.56 | jazzee8845_ | yes |
18:26.14 | tccastaldo | I don't see him here in the Zion rooms...but he may be at his office. |
18:26.17 | johnsonth | jazzee8845, try emailing him. he responds quickly. |
18:26.29 | jazzee8845_ | ok |
18:26.56 | jazzee8845_ | tccastaldo |
18:27.07 | jazzee8845_ | do you know blackberry problems |
18:27.12 | johnsonth | tdeforest, what dimensions would work best for thumbnails? 125x125, or 150x150, or some other? |
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18:28.14 | tdeforest | 125x125 would work. unless necessary detail will get lost at that size |
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18:29.06 | tccastaldo | I used to use a BlackBerry running OS 4.3. |
18:30.00 | tccastaldo | jazzee8845_, what problems are you having? |
18:30.29 | jazzee8845_ | i downloaded latest content scriptures gone missing |
18:30.33 | jazzee8845_ | and all |
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18:32.32 | jazzee8845_ | he could be working on it? |
18:32.34 | Kristian_ | whoami |
18:32.50 | mrklaw | I think you're Kristian |
18:33.07 | mrklaw | you need a forward slash before issuing commands |
18:36.16 | johnsonth | tdeforest, i'm thinking 125x125 for the thumbnails would be a good size. |
18:36.29 | tdeforest | sounds good |
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18:37.41 | jazzee8845_ | feedback forest |
18:37.52 | RPartridge | Welcome Greg |
18:40.25 | Greg____ | Thanks |
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18:45.34 | tccastaldo | Sorry, jazzee8845_ -- I stepped out for a moment. |
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18:45.43 | jazzee8845_ | ok |
18:46.07 | dbkjar | Is it just me, or is anyone else having trouble finding an active link to the webcast? |
18:46.08 | tccastaldo | Did you exit Gospel Library and then open it again? |
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18:47.01 | Lynn | Is there going to be vidoe of this braodcast |
18:47.31 | Frank__ | I found it at tech.lds.org/wiki/Broadcast |
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18:49.04 | dbkjar | LDSTech, I'm noticing a lot of staleness on the chapter meetings wiki page. |
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18:54.51 | dbkjar | Frank__, I'm not seeing an active link on those pages, even checking html source. |
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18:55.30 | Cliff_ | How do we connect to the broadcast? All I get is the link to connect to this chat window. |
18:56.22 | John | To connect to the broadcast, please go to: https://lds.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_885FrlGiQLZUieo |
18:56.24 | Phi__ | Help! So I tried to use the control + button to enlarge my screen and only the control - works to make it smaller. Now the presentation screen is small how can I get it back? |
18:56.36 | Phi__ | Please! |
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18:57.11 | Phi__ | Oh...it's OK panic over I did it! :) |
18:57.12 | guest32 | I'd like an option somewhere between too small and full screen |
18:57.18 | _Liz | i agree |
18:57.30 | Phi__ | You can do that by using control + button |
18:57.47 | _Liz | perfect, thanks |
18:57.55 | Frank__ | There is a CONTENTS box as the 3rd paragraph Just abve that box is a sentence:cLICK HERE TO JOIN THE LIVE CHAT VIA IRC. That is the link. |
18:57.57 | Phi__ | you're welcome! |
18:58.08 | scgallafent | For those looking for the broadcast link: https://lds.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_885FrlGiQLZUieo |
18:58.35 | dbkjar | Thanks John and scgallafent |
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19:00.09 | mrklaw | @Cliff_ you should be able to click on the Attend button and fill out the questionaire and then you will be redirected to the video stream. |
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19:01.31 | TimRiker | we're starting. let's keep the chat to questions and topic. ok? |
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19:02.32 | TimRiker | conference registration is open. https://tech.lds.org/conf/ |
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19:03.18 | BroncoP3t3 | The tech conf would be nice |
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19:04.37 | tdeforest | dbkjar, i fixed the staleness on the wiki page. take a look: https://tech.lds.org/wiki/LDSTech_broadcasts#2011-12_LDSTech_monthly_broadcast_calendar |
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19:05.03 | TimRiker | http://mhtech.lds.org/ - Meetinghouse Technology home |
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19:05.51 | TimRiker | welcome everyone to the IRC channel! |
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19:06.05 | _Liz | about time you all showed up |
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19:06.15 | george__ | Cool |
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19:06.28 | tnaisbitt | hello everyone |
19:06.42 | *** topic/#ldstech by TimRiker -> LDSTech Conference Mar 29-30: http://tech.lds.org/wiki/LDSTech_Conference || LDSTech: http://tech.lds.org/ || IRC Logs: http://infobot.rikers.org/%23ldstech/ || CIA: #ldstech-commits || Contact TimRiker for new #ldstech-* channels || LDSTech Broadcast Feb 3rd 12pm MST: http://tech.lds.org/wiki/Broadcast |
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19:07.36 | TimRiker | Note for newcomers... this channel is logged publicly! do not say anything here that you don't want everyone to read. Things like phone numbers and email addresses should NOT be pasted in the channel. Thanx! |
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19:08.27 | houser | any chance auxiliaries will have access to this at some point? |
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19:08.37 | *** topic/#ldstech by TimRiker -> LDSTech Conference Mar 29-30: http://tech.lds.org/wiki/LDSTech_Conference || LDSTech: http://tech.lds.org/ || Public IRC Logs: http://infobot.rikers.org/%23ldstech/ || CIA: #ldstech-commits || LDSTech Broadcast Feb 3rd 12pm MST: http://tech.lds.org/wiki/Broadcast |
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19:08.56 | RPartridge | houser, yes, in the future the reports and lists available on clerk resources will be made available to auxiliaries |
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19:09.14 | TimRiker | houser, he addresses that later in the presentation. short answer... it's on the list, but has not happened yet. |
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19:10.22 | TimRiker | it looks like we have some scaling issues with the web interface. If you get disconnected, please just try reconnecting. |
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19:10.52 | TimRiker | note: some nicknames are reserved, so if you login as a reserved name you may get renamed to Guest<something> |
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19:11.04 | dbkjar | brightcove resolution seems unusually low this time around. |
19:11.07 | TimRiker | you can change your nickname with /nick <newnick> |
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19:13.05 | phi__ | I got logged off...just checking if I'm on again? |
19:13.10 | TimRiker | https://www.lds.org/mls/mbr/ |
19:13.15 | knoxj | screen is unreadable - will slides be available later? |
19:13.15 | John_Burggraaf | Why does the broadcast page look so blurry? |
19:13.18 | TimRiker | phi__, yep. welcome back. |
19:13.33 | MSR-RPartridge | knoxj, yes, the slides and presentation will be made available later |
19:13.37 | sammythesm | Are "Asst. Stake Clerk - Technology" supposed to have acccess to the "Clerk resources"?? I see leader resources, bu tnot clerk resources - but the previous slide said that Asst clerks should have access. |
19:13.37 | TimRiker | John_Burggraaf, it's much lower resolution than the screen here. :( |
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19:13.52 | stkmem_Delaware_ | It doesn't look that blurry to me, but does look small |
19:13.59 | TimRiker | sammythesm, checking... |
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19:14.13 | smootar | TimRiker, we have over 2,600 people that are viewing our broadcast. Many are getting errors connecting to IRC. Can we increase the number of connections? |
19:14.22 | MSR-RPartridge | sammythesm, all clerks, except assistant clerk-finance and stake assistant clerk-tech spec, are able to access some content. |
19:15.02 | TimRiker | sammythesm, I see Stake assistant clerk, and stake assistant membership clerk. no technology listed. |
19:15.07 | ChrisS_ | Are you planning on moving financial information over to the web? |
19:15.10 | sammythesm | It's hard to train others or get them excited about it when I can't use/understand it myself. |
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19:15.31 | smootar | The resolution of the broadcast today is 640 x 480. We will have HD available in our broadcast next month. |
19:15.35 | TimRiker | Chris__, more on that in a bit. it's coming but not here yet. |
19:15.46 | stkmem_Delaware_ | Supposed to be trained, but not - I trained myself for stake membership clerk by serving as ward membership clerk in three different wards |
19:15.52 | Dennis_ | When will this be available?? |
19:16.03 | stkmem_Delaware_ | Training clerks in sixteen units in my stake is definitely the hard part |
19:16.05 | MSR-RPartridge | ChrisS_, right now, in the future it is expected that finacial tools will be made available online; our current responsibility is to focus on membership functionality |
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19:16.18 | TimRiker | sammythesm, I had the same issue. my leaders decided I could just be an "assistant clerk" which does have access. |
19:16.25 | dbkjar | thanks smootar -- if possible can the perm mpeg be higher res than this.? |
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19:16.48 | ajacatac | if yer joining us via the stream, hows the audio level on the stream? |
19:16.58 | sammythesm | @TimRiker - good solution. I'll talk to my Stk Presidency about that. |
19:17.01 | scgallafent | Audio is fine |
19:17.02 | dbkjar | audio: very good |
19:17.03 | borand | When will the 'training'/help pages be in local languague ? |
19:17.09 | robg___ | good audio for me |
19:17.09 | bagiles | audio level is great! video is grainy. |
19:17.14 | Jamie | I was put in a Bishopric nearly two weeks ago. I had access to this for a few days and then it disappeared. I noticed that I was not listed as a counselor on MLS. though I was for a few days. I am back in now, but still don't have access to the online portion. |
19:17.17 | John_Burggraaf | Audio is very good. |
19:17.31 | MSR-RPartridge | borand, the presenter will address languages later in the presentation |
19:17.31 | joxsmith | in full screen mode it's pretty grainy / blurry |
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19:17.38 | borand | ok |
19:17.39 | smootar | dbkjar, we will make a higher resolution available following the broadcast. We will also make the slides available. |
19:17.54 | Clayton | What browsers are supported? |
19:17.57 | TimRiker | Jamie, have a clerk remove you from your calling, push changes, then re-add you as your calling and push changes again. |
19:18.03 | stkmem_Delaware_ | When the camera's on the speaker it's fine, it's showing a montior that's grainy |
19:18.12 | dbkjar | many thanks smootar |
19:18.23 | ajacatac | thanks john |
19:18.30 | MSR-RPartridge | Jamie, send an email to clerkresourcestraining@ldschurch.org and explain this problem, then we'll have someone look into your issue |
19:18.57 | borand | Maybe a bit off topic - but I get lots of questions about, when HomeTeaching will be available at the web... do we have a guess ? |
19:19.13 | Kristian_ | Clayton, we support current versions of browsers and one previous version |
19:19.15 | Jamie | Does it have to be a clerk? I have access to MLS on the Ward Computer and could stop by the Church and do it? Does it matter if I am the one doing it or does it need to be a Clerk? |
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19:19.57 | JKitterman | @Clayton, we test in chrome, firefox, safari, and ie |
19:19.58 | jonesrk2 | @Jamie there are some issues with new callings getting access to lds.org. We are looking into where the data is not getting all the way to authentication system |
19:19.59 | MSR-RPartridge | borand, the presenter will discuss Home and Visiting Teaching later in the presentation |
19:20.11 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
19:20.12 | borand | thanks, again.... |
19:20.49 | stkmem_Delaware_ | We have a recurring problem in our stake with callings being posted in MLS not making it to CDOL, or not granting appropriate access for the member |
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19:21.26 | TimRiker | stkmem_Delaware_, I've seen the same. removing, syncing, re-calling, syncing often fixes the issue. |
19:22.02 | stkmem_Delaware_ | OK, after this I'll call the one stake auditor and ask him to try again |
19:22.03 | MSR-RPartridge | stkmem_Delaware_, we are focusing now on the work needed to allow leaders to update callings online. this will also help to resolve the problem |
19:22.06 | ajacatac | <PROTECTED> |
19:22.26 | TimRiker | MSR-RPartridge, great! :) |
19:22.40 | stkmem_Delaware_ | OK, so I don't have all the vocabulary down - I wasn't a computer science major, so sue me |
19:23.18 | TimRiker | stkmem_Delaware_, you're doing great. =) |
19:23.31 | Famaxwell | Will we be able to submit questions for the presenter by typing them here? |
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19:23.43 | Jamie | It shows a string of information in the policty-ldspositions field. |
19:23.54 | MSR-RPartridge | Famaxwell, yes, i'll be happy to give your question to the presenter |
19:24.00 | houser | as far as syncing the way you enter info... do we continue to use MLS, or do we use this new tool? Can we exclusively use this new tool from now on? |
19:24.20 | jonesrk2 | @Jamie you should see p57 and then your unit number if it has you as a ward clerk |
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19:24.43 | sammythesm | @houser - use both. the online tool are only a fraction of the full MLS functionality right now. |
19:24.49 | Dennis_ | On the stake level, I have 2 accounts to keep track of... stake & rec properties. how will clerk resources understant which account I want to access?? (I'm sure it will default to the stake account) |
19:25.00 | MSR-RPartridge | houser, this tool doesn't have all of the functionality of MLS now, so I wouldn't use it exclusively, but at this point where it might be most convenient to you |
19:25.04 | TimRiker | Jamie, don't post the string here, but what's the p<number> portion? |
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19:25.28 | mhunt | If a Bishop's counselor has been given rights to view all records in Classic MLS, will he lose those rights in the new system? |
19:25.30 | dbkjar | 3 million moves/year? wow. we're a mobile bunch. |
19:25.31 | Jamie | 208 |
19:25.45 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
19:25.49 | jajone18 | Question: |
19:25.52 | scgallafent | I'm looking. |
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19:26.20 | jonesrk2 | @Jamie that is a Sunday School Instructor |
19:26.25 | MSR-RPartridge | mhunt, yes, in this new tool we strictly follow the policies of the church, so counselors will lose access they have now in MLS |
19:26.36 | Famaxwell | Thanks. Here's my question: Is the ultimate goal to phase out MLS completely so that all functions are done over the internet thru lds.org? If so, will we able to do custom reports and custom fields in Clerk Resources? My ward uses several customized reports, so we need that functionality. |
19:26.40 | JKitterman | Dennis_, Clerk Resources doesn't address financial systems at the moment. That will be coming in the future. |
19:26.41 | Jamie | I am/was that too, will be released on Sunday... |
19:26.44 | John_Burggraaf | dbkjar, it's because we love to serve missions :) |
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19:26.51 | sammythesm | @mhunt - permissions in classic/desktop MLS are controlled by the software itself. web MLS have static permissions that cannot be changed (as of now). |
19:27.02 | ChrisS_ | What does it mean if my header information says: policy-ldspositions: p786 |
19:27.02 | TimRiker | Jamie, 54 and 55 are the bishopric counselors |
19:27.13 | Chris__ | What about getting access to Assistant Ward Executive Secretaries? |
19:27.31 | MSR-RPartridge | Famaxwell, yes, the plan is to completely replace the MLS membership functionality within the next two years. Custom reports will definitely be available online |
19:27.37 | TimRiker | ChrisS_, ward asst clerk finance |
19:27.39 | jonesrk2 | @ChrisS 786 is Ward Assistant Clerk--Finance |
19:27.52 | jazzee8845 | what about gome teachers? |
19:28.00 | sammythesm | I'm surprised that HT/VT is still on the "future" list... this is a hotly requested thing that would be enjoyed by a much wider group of chruch members than the narrow "clerk" audience. |
19:28.00 | jazzee8845 | home teachers? |
19:28.10 | Famaxwell | And custom fields - will they be available in Clerk Resources? |
19:28.30 | Jamie | When we were put in, everything still showed the Bishop as the previous Bishop and not the current one. I figured the Stake Clerk needed to make that change. My functionality disappeared when the new Bishop showed up in LDS Tools as the Bishop and myself and the 2nd Counselor disappeared. |
19:28.31 | ChrisS_ | Could you show where the link to the MLS functions are again? I can't find them. |
19:28.31 | Dennis_ | put the e-mail address back up |
19:28.36 | TimRiker | note: asst clerk finance, does not have access. but an asst clerk does. that's the calling I had changed so I could help my other leaders with the online tools. |
19:28.38 | jazzee8845 | What about home teaching lists? |
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19:28.55 | ChrisS_ | (It looks like the calling is correct for me) |
19:29.07 | MSR-RPartridge | clerkresourcestraining@ldschurch.org |
19:29.14 | Koeman | Will I be able to see stake and wards monthly financial statements? |
19:29.17 | ChrisS_ | Maybe asst clerk finance does not have access though. |
19:29.24 | dbkjar | good presentation! |
19:29.32 | jajone18 | I was called as the clerk for my YSA branch less than a month ago. I was in MLS this past week and I found that the 1st counselor in my branch presidency is not displayed in the presidency in the MLS system. It only displays the 2nd counselor and the branch president. I tried to put him in, but the computer would not let me. After some digging, I found out we do not have his records for ever receiving the priesthood! He is listed |
19:29.39 | jonesrk2 | @Jamie there is a bug in MLS/CDOL that releases the conselors if the bishop (from the stake) is put in after the clerk. That is being fixed in MLS and CDOL |
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19:29.52 | Guest62392 | ChrisS_, the location is under the tools menu after you login to lds.org You can also hit it with a direct link https://lds.org/mls/mbr |
19:30.25 | jiffypop | What about the temple reccomend list? We as a Bishopric went through it and found it largely inaccurate for our ward. |
19:30.26 | aebrown_ | I get nervous about talk of phasing out MLS on the desktop when it comes to processing donation batches for two reasons: An Internet connection may go down, and we don't want to wait to process a donation batch, and also data entry in web apps is clunky compared to a desktop app. Please let us still keep a desktop app for processing donation batches! |
19:30.33 | sammythesm | Nice to see someone w/o a tie and suit on, Mike. :) |
19:30.35 | jajone18 | I know the man has the priesthood....He is in his 60s and he's sealed in the temple and everything, but I just want to know where to find that information so I can get that sent to my unit. |
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19:30.41 | jajone18 | ?? |
19:30.54 | TimRiker | ChrisS_, you are correct. ast clerk finance does not have access. ast clerk does. I asked my bishop and then changed my calling to just ast clerk. |
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19:31.11 | Dennis_ | What is the e-mail address for help with the new clerk resources?? |
19:31.18 | TimRiker | Guest62392, he won't see it as ast clerk finance. |
19:31.43 | Famaxwell | I agree with aebrown. If MLS is completely phased out, we should have the ability to locally save or backup everything saved in the LDS cloud. |
19:31.55 | shemnon | [q] - Will LDS tools and Gospel Library be released on the Amazon App Store for Kindle Fire? |
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19:32.08 | sammythesm | Sounds like this Asst Clerk thing is a widely experienced issue. They should add al the flavors of "assistant clerk" to the utilities.... |
19:32.38 | MSR-RPartridge | Famaxwell, aebrown_ excellent concenrs; these are the exact issues that are trying to be addressed before plans to provide financial inofmration are made |
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19:33.00 | Dennis_ | Please provide clerk resources e-mail help address..................... |
19:33.33 | Famaxwell | Brother Partridge, will custom fields for membership records be available in Clerk Resources? |
19:33.38 | Chris__ | Can Assistant Ward Executive Secretaries have similar or the same access as Ward Executive Secretaries to the leader resources? |
19:33.39 | MSR-RPartridge | the email address is CLERKRESOURCESTRAINING@LDSCHURCH.ORG |
19:33.54 | Vic | When attendees ask questions, please restate them for the online audience. They are hard to hear. |
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19:34.22 | Dennis_ | THANKS! |
19:34.32 | MSR-RPartridge | Famaxwell, are you talking about the ability to add custom fields and then populate it with your own data? |
19:34.50 | Famaxwell | Yes, that's what I'm referring to. |
19:34.52 | Dennis_ | What is the transition window where Clerk Resources will shadow MLS??? |
19:34.54 | Ukiah | What about Bible videos for Android? |
19:34.55 | aebrown_ | Regarding assistant clerks, I would note that there is no calling in the handbook called "financial clerk" or anything like that. There is simply the calling of assistant clerk, and an assistant clerk MAY be asked to help with finances. Thus the Assistant Clerk-Finance role should have everything the Assistant Clerk role has, plus more. It is wrong IMO for the financial clerk to have LESS capability than an Assistant Clerk. |
19:35.26 | MSR-RPartridge | Famaxwell, We have not addressed this question yet. Thanks for raising it. |
19:35.42 | TimRiker | agrees with aebrown_ ! |
19:35.42 | tccastaldo | Ukiah, last month's broadcast covered Bible videos in detail. The main concern at that time was the size of the videos. |
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19:35.53 | Famaxwell | Thanks, Bro. Partridge. |
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19:36.06 | MSR-RPartridge | Famaxwell, you're welcome |
19:36.19 | jonesrk2 | @Chris__ Assistant Ward Executive Secretary is not a standard positoin so it we can't tie access to it. |
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19:36.52 | Ukiah | What is the link to be aware of these broadcasts ahead of time? |
19:37.01 | TimRiker | MSR-RPartridge, has the lack of access for finance clerks been discussed? as aebrown_ points out, there is no difference in the callings according to the handbook. |
19:37.14 | scgallafent | Ukiah: Broadcasts are normally the first Friday of each month. |
19:37.21 | TimRiker | http://tech.lds.org/wiki/Broadcast |
19:37.24 | george_poa | how can I change calling online? |
19:37.32 | scgallafent | Broadcast page is here: http://tech.lds.org/wiki/Broadcast |
19:37.35 | george_poa | and is it synchronized with MLS? |
19:37.39 | TimRiker | george_poa, can't yet as far as I understand. |
19:37.47 | aebrown_ | Excellent broadcast, SmootAR, Stephen Carlile, and others. Thanks! |
19:37.49 | JKitterman | george_poa, that functionality will be released soon |
19:37.52 | Chris__ | jonesrk2 - I know it's not currently a standard position. can it become a standard position or are there plans for that? |
19:37.53 | george_poa | IOh, I see, TimRiker |
19:37.59 | george_poa | too bad |
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19:38.06 | Jamie | Thanks! That explains it! |
19:38.07 | Vic | Thanks very much for the good webinar! |
19:38.11 | scgallafent | smootar: Off the air now. |
19:38.11 | TimRiker | it's coming. it was on the list. |
19:38.12 | george_poa | it shows someone as NOT having a calling, but I am sure he does |
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19:38.21 | phi__ | Thanks for the experience guys! |
19:38.22 | george_poa | now I have to go to the Ward, check MLS and make sure |
19:38.24 | Vic | exit |
19:38.28 | Vic | quit |
19:38.32 | george_poa | this is not helping as much as I thought. |
19:38.39 | scgallafent | Vic: Put a slash in front of that command |
19:38.43 | tdeforest | vic type a slash before |
19:38.48 | tdeforest | like /quite |
19:38.52 | Famaxwell | Here's another suggestion. When the new General Handbook was introduced, we were told that we could adjust home teaching & visiting teaching according to local conditions. In my ward & other wards, husband & wives are often called to serve as joint HT or VT partners. However, in MLS, the home teaching data does not show any husband serving with his wife in a VT companionship. He will show up as not having a HT assignment. Lik |
19:38.59 | tdeforest | s/quite/quit/ |
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19:39.34 | sammythesm | Thanks guys and gals. Good short webcast. I see the only problem being this issue with Assistants callings (standard ones) not working yet. Other than that, just wanna say - HUZZAH. Good work. More, more more. :) Our bishops and clerks are really enjoying (and using) these new resources. We'll use them as fast as you can release them. See y'all later. |
19:39.55 | Famaxwell | ... (continued) How about setting it up so that joint HT-VT companionships automatically show up in both the HT & VT lists? This would be very helpful to the quorum & RS leaders in my ward. |
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19:40.54 | Vic | Thanks guys! |
19:41.05 | MSR-RPartridge | aebrown_, the direction MSR was given by priesthood councils is that the clerk has the same access as a bishop, the assistant clerk has almost the same rights as the clerk, and that assitant clerks for membership or finance are limited to those specific roles |
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19:41.55 | dbkjar | Thank again all. Once again, please email me if there are problems getting this video permalinked on the broadcast page before tomorrow. |
19:42.30 | JKitterman | @george_poa, what isn't helping as much as you thought? |
19:42.36 | Zeta | Hello. I'm from Hungary. Is there a plan to have Gospel Library in hungarin on Android? |
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19:43.11 | aebrown_ | MSR-RPartridge, thanks for the clarification, but that's not consistent with the handbook. It's also not consistent with the way my priesthood leaders have always treated me as an assistant clerk. They ask me to do a variety of things, which may include finance, membership, or other tasks. So I have to be entered into MLS with multiple Assistant Clerk callings to have appropriate access. That's weird, but I guess we can live with t |
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19:45.07 | Apm_ | Can anyone tell me if the finace part of MLS will ever be added to clerk resources? |
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19:45.22 | TimRiker | from what I understand, assistant clerk has all the access of each of the narrower callings. right? |
19:45.45 | tdeforest | Apm_: they are working on that part but it is not being released now |
19:45.51 | TimRiker | so if they want you doing more, have them change your calling to assistant clerk. |
19:46.11 | Chris__ | Will auxilliary presidencies have rights to things like rolls, birthday lists, etc? |
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19:46.30 | Apm_ | Do we know when the next set of additiona features will go live on clerk resources like actually editing membership records? |
19:46.50 | aebrown_ | @TimRiker, I think that's true now, but I wonder if the finance features will not be available to regular Assistant Clerks. |
19:47.10 | TimRiker | Chris__, not at the moment. but a clerk can print off roles from the web site today. |
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19:47.27 | Guest62392 | Apm_, right now you can edit email, phone and addresses on membership records |
19:47.38 | Guest62392 | future release will expand that to edit more info |
19:47.42 | Apm_ | I know but I want to do more!!!!!!! |
19:47.58 | Guest62392 | the next release will include requesting records into your unit, recording baptism and confirmation, and recording priesthood ordinations |
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19:48.11 | TimRiker | aebrown_, Rick informs me that the current policy is that it's hierarchical. asst clerk would have all the roles that a narrower calling would have. |
19:48.14 | Chris__ | TimRiker, is that something they will eventually have access to online? Also putting in their HT/VT #'s? |
19:48.16 | Guest62392 | it will hopefully be release in the month or two |
19:49.26 | RobEsplin | As an assistant membership clerk for the stake I have done some boundary realigns it would be very nice if this could be done dynamically on the maps.lds.org. |
19:49.40 | aebrown_ | @TimRiker, ok that's good. The only minor problem is that it's helpful on the Directory's leadership section for me to be visible as the financial clerk so that stake members know whom to contact with financial questions. But that does clarify the access issue. |
19:49.46 | TimRiker | Chris__, it's in the plans, but not today. eventually teachers will be able to view/print their own roles. |
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19:50.06 | Chris__ | Ok, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. Thanks so much TimRiker. |
19:50.18 | TimRiker | aebrown_, yep. you can have both ast clerk and ast clerk finance. just means you show up twice. |
19:50.29 | TimRiker | yw Chris__ :) |
19:50.30 | jazzee8845 | that was good |
19:50.40 | aebrown_ | @TimRiker, actually 3 times, since I"m also the STS :) |
19:51.07 | TimRiker | aebrown_, and the web site admin? :) |
19:51.07 | aebrown_ | @TimRiker, actually 4 times, since I'm also the Stake Website Administrator :) :) |
19:51.12 | Stan__ | RobEsplin, we feel the same way. this will be something we develop in Clerk Resources that will pull data from LDS Maps and CDOL. |
19:51.16 | TimRiker | hehe. beat you. :) |
19:51.30 | RobEsplin | I understand that this is a |
19:51.42 | RobEsplin | Thanks that would be very helpful. |
19:52.02 | Bjorn_NO | Will aux. clerks be able to use lds.org/MLS for their organization? |
19:52.23 | jazzee8845 | i likw hoq the lds.org websites look |
19:52.24 | RobEsplin | Some of the wards in our stake are having difficulty getting lds.org to update to the callings in MLS is there a way to force that? |
19:52.26 | aebrown_ | Ouch, I got whupped by TimRiker before I even knew I was racing him. ;) |
19:53.14 | Zeta | Question about Android Gospel Library App. Is there a plan to have that in hungarian language? |
19:54.33 | knoxj | Thanks for email notice so I could be here. My initial questions answered by trolling responses. Good luck. |
19:54.44 | Chris__ | Are there mobile versions of leader and clerk resources coming out? I have access through the browser, but what about an app, like the LDS Tools app? |
19:54.44 | Stan__ | RobEsplin, we have had problems this week with the syncing. Wait a week and try again. sorry for the inconvenience. |
19:54.47 | JKitterman | @Zeta, translations are coming in the next few months - the app isn't set up for multiple langs |
19:56.04 | JKitterman | @Chris__, the LDS Tools app will expand to include some of the reports / data available in Clerk Resources |
19:56.21 | RobEsplin | Thanks |
19:56.42 | Zeta | JKitterman: thanks |
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19:57.20 | Chris__ | JKitterman, thanks and what about being able to add calendar events through a mobile platform? |
19:58.37 | TimRiker | aebrown_, LOL |
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19:58.58 | JKitterman | @Chris__, I've heard (but I'm not on that team) that CalDAV support is coming for the calendar to support 2-way event create/update |
19:59.18 | JKitterman | @Chris__, have you seen the beta version of the calendar app? |
19:59.59 | TimRiker | RobEsplin, CDOL implemented some major changes this past week. I'd just hold off and try again in a week or so. there was a note sent out to clerks about it if I recall correctly. |
20:00.29 | RobEsplin | Thanks |
20:01.09 | Chris__ | JKitterman, no, how do I get access to the beta version? |
20:01.21 | TimRiker | looks like the maps beta is down at the moment. it was here: https://lds.org/rcmaps/ |
20:02.05 | TimRiker | beta testing the various web sites can be discussed here: https://tech.lds.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?124-Beta-Testing |
20:04.30 | Chris__ | Is there a link for the beta calendar? |
20:04.30 | JKitterman | @Chris__, not sure, but the Calendar forum could help: https://tech.lds.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?110-Calendar |
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20:04.40 | Chris__ | ok, thanks JKitterman. |
20:04.50 | dbkjar | wonders, was the channel limit we hit due to an IRC limit or a web gateway limit? |
20:05.32 | TimRiker | we hit over 100 people in here during the broadcast. |
20:06.08 | dbkjar | ya TimRiker, I couldnt swing a cat without hitting someone's mouse. |
20:06.15 | TimRiker | :) |
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20:07.19 | TimRiker | dbkjar, we hit a hard limit for the ip at proxy.lds.org as well as performance issues with so many people trying to use the web interface at the same time. |
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20:07.42 | TimRiker | I don't have a channel limit set at the moment. |
20:08.05 | dbkjar | ah, so this was more inside your buildings then out here on the range.. |
20:08.14 | TimRiker | nods |
20:08.39 | scgallafent | I counted 73 after excluding bots, employees, all the various flavors of TimRiker, etc. |
20:08.51 | dbkjar | stirs up his campfire embers |
20:09.14 | TimRiker | scgallafent, hehe. I thought I saw it just over a hundred at some point. 103 or something. |
20:09.40 | scgallafent | That's probably about right. |
20:10.06 | dbkjar | how many Baskin Rikers? 31? |
20:10.56 | tcmobile | LOL dbkjar |
20:13.48 | gm_ | folks about the calendar |
20:14.19 | gm_ | are you thinking to integrete the schedule lessons to the new calendar version? |
20:15.57 | JKitterman | @gm_, I don't think we have a calendar representative on the channel. Sorry, maybe try the calendar forum |
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21:27.12 | tdeforest | tccastaldo: do you use eclipse for java dev only? |
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21:28.29 | tccastaldo | I actually don't use it for Java. |
21:28.42 | tccastaldo | I use it for building projects. |
21:29.00 | tccastaldo | If I could do that manually, I wouldn't use Eclipse at all. |
21:29.26 | tdeforest | building projects? like dir/file structure? |
21:32.56 | tdeforest | oh i see - the Build. gotchas |
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21:58.50 | dbkjar | I'd like to send out the chapter meeting reminder, but hoped to see an mp4 in the wiki first. |
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22:36.37 | alansmoot | question... |
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23:32.22 | tccastaldo | I'm cleaning up. Thanks, everyone! Have a great weekend. |