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02:59.23 | tdeforest | scgallafent: i do have access to the cdev panel. |
02:59.46 | scgallafent | I realized it is a production group. I'm going to synchronize the membership list so that everyone on the project is in the group. |
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03:38.17 | Guest8337 | I am just curious about tags and tabs for Android Gospel Library |
03:39.15 | Guest8337 | Is it on the roadmap? |
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13:42.35 | tdeforest | thx scgallafent |
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14:39.23 | tdeforest | is this the correct jira instance for dev/testing https://cdev.lds.org/jira/ ? |
14:39.50 | tdeforest | the ProKarma swarm team are looking for a test environment |
14:39.58 | tdeforest | do you know scgallafent ? |
14:40.25 | scgallafent | I think so, but let me check. |
14:41.40 | scgallafent | Yes. https://cdev.lds.org/jira/ |
14:42.25 | tdeforest | thank you |
14:42.30 | scgallafent | You're welcome. |
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15:06.01 | tccastaldo | 912 registrants today. That's more than yesterday, so registration must be working. :D |
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15:30.38 | tdeforest | tccastaldo: :) |
15:30.57 | jazzee8845 | metting started yet? |
15:31.48 | tdeforest | jazzee8845: good morning. no meeting this morning |
15:31.58 | jazzee8845 | oh ok |
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15:35.36 | jazzee8845 | tdeforest: it good afternoon my side lol |
15:36.22 | tdeforest | scgallafent: ProKarma is requesting QA environment for testing Swarm? do we have something they can access push code to manually for testing? would need test instance of jira and joomla as well. |
15:36.43 | tdeforest | jazzee8845: :) i thought about that but wasn't sure how to phrase it so it made sense |
15:37.01 | scgallafent | Java code? |
15:37.08 | tdeforest | php |
15:37.40 | scgallafent | There is already a cdev instance of Joomla. Do they need a separate instance? |
15:38.01 | tdeforest | cdev is good for them for dev but they want to be able to test while dev continues on cdev |
15:38.43 | scgallafent | If they need another instance besides the one on cdev, I'm inclined to have them set up their own local instance. |
15:39.30 | scgallafent | I'm not sure why we need to maintain a separate instance of Joomla and Jira for them to test against besides the existing cdev instances. |
15:39.50 | tccastaldo | I agree, scgallafent. |
15:40.07 | scgallafent | I assume they're worried about people making changes to data, etc. while they are working, which can make it more difficult to test. |
15:40.19 | tdeforest | it makes sense to have a QA zone separate from development. |
15:40.31 | tdeforest | right |
15:40.54 | scgallafent | We probably ought to ask TimRiker at 8/9/11:30. |
15:41.15 | tdeforest | in the interest of time it may be faster for them to setup their own test environment |
15:41.21 | scgallafent | I thought we had an instance between cdev and staging. |
15:41.36 | tdeforest | i'm not sure |
15:41.38 | scgallafent | If I were them, I would just set up my own instance. Joomla takes less than 30 minutes. |
15:41.53 | tdeforest | i've seen a lot urls, but don't remember all of them |
15:41.56 | scgallafent | There may be plans for an instance between cdev and staging, but nothing has been deployed yet. |
15:42.53 | scgallafent | Jira takes a little configuration, if I remember correctly from the last time I installed it. |
15:43.54 | tdeforest | k |
15:44.03 | scgallafent | They can get a 10-user license for Jira for $10. |
15:44.19 | tdeforest | wow. that's cheap |
15:44.32 | jazzee8845 | forest my learning comes from school |
15:44.43 | jazzee8845 | and practising myself |
15:45.18 | scgallafent | The 11th user is a killer, though. |
15:46.07 | scgallafent | http://www.atlassian.com/licensing/jira |
15:47.07 | tdeforest | heh |
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15:48.17 | tccastaldo | Yeah, just multiplies the cost by 120. |
15:48.24 | tccastaldo | Good grief. |
15:48.58 | scgallafent | Or you could look at it as the 11th user costing you $1190. |
15:49.21 | jazzee8845 | how much in pounds |
15:49.54 | scgallafent | 758 GBP |
15:50.29 | jazzee8845 | gosh |
15:50.40 | scgallafent | Or £758. |
15:50.43 | scgallafent | :) |
15:50.58 | scgallafent | Had to look that one up. I don't use that symbol much. |
15:53.38 | jazzee8845 | the colleges around where I live does not do codeing :( |
15:53.44 | tccastaldo | Hmm...infobot's currency converter appears to be broken. |
15:53.55 | tccastaldo | ~change 1190 USD to GBP |
15:54.12 | scgallafent | ~change USD 1190 to GBP |
15:54.21 | scgallafent | Picky little thing! |
15:54.28 | tccastaldo | I know! |
15:54.44 | tdeforest | ~change USD1190 to GBP |
15:54.53 | tdeforest | shrugs |
15:55.07 | jazzee8845 | infobot |
15:55.13 | zakzakattack | tccastaldo do we have devotional at 9? |
15:55.19 | jazzee8845 | try |
15:55.28 | tccastaldo | As far as I know. Hasn't been canceled yet. |
15:55.32 | jazzee8845 | USD 1,190 to GBP |
15:55.33 | zakzakattack | ok cool |
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15:55.40 | scgallafent | Your first try fits the documentation. |
15:56.01 | tdeforest | ~change 1,190 USD to GBP |
15:56.08 | tccastaldo | I know, which is why I'm confused...who would have changed it? |
15:56.49 | jazzee8845 | i know |
15:56.57 | jazzee8845 | $1190 to £ |
15:57.17 | tdeforest | ~change USD 1190 to UKP |
15:57.21 | tdeforest | :) |
15:57.33 | tdeforest | ~change USD 1190 to ITL |
15:57.33 | tccastaldo | You don't look right, either, infobot. |
15:57.47 | tdeforest | infobot-- |
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15:58.22 | scgallafent | ~change lead to gold :) |
15:58.38 | tdeforest | lol |
15:59.01 | tdeforest | scgallafent almost had early retirement wrapped up |
15:59.09 | TimRiker | ~change 100 usd to cad |
15:59.20 | TimRiker | ~change usd to cad |
15:59.26 | TimRiker | neato |
15:59.30 | jazzee8845 | tim riker |
15:59.36 | TimRiker | ~help change |
15:59.38 | jazzee8845 | how do i get irc on windows vista |
16:00.07 | TimRiker | download xchat for windows |
16:00.08 | scgallafent | http://tech.lds.org/wiki/IRC |
16:00.28 | TimRiker | looks like we do have a 9:00 this morning. back in 30 or so. |
16:01.24 | jazzee8845 | is that a meeting? |
16:01.43 | scgallafent | Devotional at the Church office. |
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16:02.10 | TimRiker | nods |
16:02.32 | TimRiker | looks like smootar canceled the 9:30 today. we'll likely touch base then anyway, ok? |
16:02.41 | tdeforest | ok |
16:02.44 | jazzee8845 | downloading free one |
16:03.31 | scgallafent | Meetingplace at 9:30 or IRC? |
16:04.51 | jazzee8845 | xchat - wdk.googlecode.com is safe? |
16:05.35 | scgallafent | Yes. |
16:06.22 | jazzee8845 | custom or full instalation? |
16:07.17 | scgallafent | Probably easiest to take full if you don't need custom. |
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16:12.23 | james | hi |
16:12.48 | tdeforest | welcome james |
16:13.01 | Guest55750 | my name changed |
16:13.16 | scgallafent | There is probably another James online, or that name is reserved. |
16:13.28 | tdeforest | Guest55750: you have to reserve your nick |
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16:14.45 | james8845 | hi |
16:14.52 | scgallafent | Welcome back. |
16:14.57 | tdeforest | scgallafent: swarm announce and commits have members but the discuss group says it has 0 members. do i add everyone manually? |
16:15.08 | scgallafent | Did I miss discuss? Just a second. |
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16:15.46 | scgallafent | I show 20 members in the discussion group. |
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16:15.57 | james8845 | right |
16:16.02 | james8845 | swapping |
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16:16.14 | jazzee8845 | hi |
16:16.32 | jazzee8845 | infobot |
16:17.25 | tdeforest | scgallafent: google groups interface is throwing me for a loop. in the 'new' google groups interface i can't see the discuss swarm group |
16:17.41 | scgallafent | You should be able to see the group, but you don't see membership. |
16:17.55 | jazzee8845 | tom hi |
16:18.07 | tdeforest | in the 'old' view (which i can't find at the moment) it listed 20 members for announce and commits but 0 for discuss |
16:18.36 | tdeforest | i don't see the group at all at the moment |
16:19.13 | scgallafent | I checked and I see it. |
16:19.28 | tdeforest | http://d.pr/jb62 |
16:19.31 | scgallafent | You're a member/ |
16:20.05 | scgallafent | Can you get to it here: https://groups.google.com/a/tech.lds.org/group/swarm/topics ? |
16:20.31 | tdeforest | yes |
16:21.12 | TimRiker | starts using the new swarm discussion list |
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16:21.36 | scgallafent | I wonder if you're seeing a delay while data replicates between systems somewhere. |
16:21.52 | tdeforest | ah |
16:22.05 | tdeforest | i almost went crazy |
16:22.26 | tdeforest | thank you. i just wanted to check the don mcnutt was in the group and he is |
16:22.35 | tdeforest | he was having trouble signing in |
16:23.15 | tdeforest | i think it was user error |
16:23.23 | tdeforest | kind of like me :) |
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16:25.27 | scgallafent | jazzee8845: Back on the web? |
16:25.36 | jazzee8845 | yes |
16:25.42 | scgallafent | X-Chat didn't work? |
16:25.44 | jazzee8845 | it was to much lag |
16:26.15 | scgallafent | I use AdiIRC: http://www.adiirc.com/ |
16:28.12 | jazzee8845 | what |
16:28.26 | scgallafent | Instead of X-Chat |
16:28.27 | jazzee8845 | is the thing for it |
16:28.53 | scgallafent | Is the thing for what? |
16:28.58 | jazzee8845 | server |
16:29.28 | scgallafent | I use AdiIRC instead of X-Chat or the web client to connect to IRC. |
16:30.17 | jazzee8845 | i downloaded that what server |
16:30.22 | tccastaldo | jazzee8845, there are instructions for connecting to IRC using different clients here: http://tech.lds.org/wiki/IRC |
16:30.51 | scgallafent | Freenode. |
16:31.08 | scgallafent | I point to chat.us.freenode.net. You probably want to use chat.eu.freenode.net. |
16:34.09 | scgallafent | Did we decide if we're on or off for 8/9/11:30? |
16:36.23 | TimRiker | casually on. :) |
16:36.51 | TimRiker | tdeforest, send my swarm reply to the list, it didn't get there so far. |
16:37.05 | tdeforest | i noticed i only got one copy |
16:37.23 | jazzee8845 | scgallafent: it is not connecting |
16:37.27 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
16:37.46 | scgallafent | TimRiker: I see a reply to Krishna. |
16:37.46 | tdeforest | TimRiker: i'll double check your email address... |
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16:39.50 | tdeforest | TimRiker: that is the email address in the group for you |
16:39.55 | scgallafent | jazzee8845: It should look like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13237994/jazzee8845.png |
16:39.59 | TimRiker | thoughts? |
16:40.15 | scgallafent | TimRiker: I see a reply from you. What message are you looking for? |
16:40.26 | tdeforest | it doesn't show my post from this morning either, although that was sent successfully |
16:40.37 | tdeforest | scgallafent: he sent it directly and to the list |
16:40.46 | scgallafent | OIC |
16:41.04 | tdeforest | direct message arrived, list message didn't - you get it |
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16:41.28 | Jazzee845 | hi |
16:41.44 | tccastaldo | Hello! |
16:42.05 | Jazzee845 | so |
16:42.45 | scgallafent | TimRiker: I wonder if you're getting blackholed the way messages were from the cdev and tech servers. |
16:44.28 | Jazzee8845 | thanks scgallafent |
16:44.33 | tdeforest | TimRiker: on a different topic, ProKarma asked me about a QA zone separate from cdev. do we have an instance of joomla/jira that could be used strictly for QA by ProKarma? scgallafent suggested they should just create their own QA environment. |
16:44.38 | scgallafent | You're welcome. |
16:46.01 | tdeforest | their objective is to run QA and development in parallel without creating confusion. they would need to be able to push Swarm to the QA zone manually |
16:46.18 | TimRiker | scgallafent, do we have receipts for the gg fees we've covered? can you get them to Chetan? |
16:46.44 | scgallafent | Receipts? Google? I'll look, but I doubt they provide such a thing. |
16:47.22 | TimRiker | just an email confirmation would do. |
16:48.30 | TimRiker | tdeforest, we have a staging lane in theory. we should be setting up an integration lane as well, but I don't think we've gotten very far with that. |
16:48.35 | scgallafent | They've got a transaction history online. It looks like they bill monthly. |
16:48.40 | scgallafent | Better have Chetan call me. |
16:48.55 | TimRiker | there's no much an external volunteer can do about setting these up. I would not plan on having anything to test in other than cdev. |
16:49.30 | tdeforest | TimRiker: ok that confirms my suspicion. i checked the stage environment this morning and it was only accessible via vpn |
16:50.07 | TimRiker | There's nothing here yet: http://cint.lds.org/ldstech/joomla/ |
16:51.05 | scgallafent | TimRiker: Emailed Chetan. |
16:51.09 | tdeforest | TimRiker: not to sound too ignorant but what's an integration lane used for? |
16:52.25 | TimRiker | tdeforest, at present? nothing. in principle qa efforts between projects. |
16:52.39 | tdeforest | haha. ok thank you :) |
16:53.44 | tdeforest | so we're working toward having an integration lane but ETA is unknown, is that correct? |
16:54.46 | TimRiker | sounds about right, yep. |
16:55.37 | tdeforest | k. i'll let ProKarma know and point them toward setting up their own QA zone |
16:56.23 | tdeforest | or just testing on cdev like we do currently :) |
16:56.45 | TimRiker | I've not gotten a bounce back from swarm@tech.lds.org, but my message does not show in the list or in the moderation queue |
16:57.27 | TimRiker | I'd rather not pay they to spend many hours setting up a qa zone that we'll just throw away after they finish. |
16:57.42 | TimRiker | s/they/them/ |
16:57.49 | tdeforest | agrees |
16:58.16 | Jazzee8845 | agrees |
16:58.27 | tdeforest | i'll have them test on cdev. not ideal but pretty workable |
16:58.41 | TimRiker | hey! Jazzee8845 grew a capital J. :) |
17:00.16 | tdeforest | scgallafent: now i see this: http://d.pr/Qcme |
17:00.30 | scgallafent | TimRiker: I don't think we were getting bounces when messages weren't being delivered from cdev. |
17:00.45 | scgallafent | tdeforest: I'll sync that group. |
17:01.04 | TimRiker | I got a few, but I don't think I always get them. |
17:01.08 | tdeforest | and when i click on contact the owner, i get this humorous result http://d.pr/Y2BD |
17:01.44 | scgallafent | TimRiker: Got the testing 1 2 3 message. |
17:02.02 | tdeforest | also received |
17:02.02 | scgallafent | Ask nicely and maybe someone will let you join. :) |
17:02.31 | tdeforest | i'm often guilty of not asking nicely…that's probably my problem :P |
17:05.26 | Jazzee8845 | i know |
17:05.41 | Jazzee8845 | TimRiker |
17:05.42 | TimRiker | scgallafent, yeah? still does not show in the archives. |
17:05.56 | tdeforest | TimRiker: got it |
17:06.13 | scgallafent | Archives is turned off? |
17:06.20 | scgallafent | How did that get set off? |
17:06.34 | tdeforest | ~give scgallafent some tylenol |
17:06.35 | infobot | ACTION gives some tylenol to scgallafent |
17:06.35 | scgallafent | Fixed. Checking code. |
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17:07.02 | tdeforest | i'm preempting the headache :) |
17:07.05 | Jazzee8845 | <PROTECTED> |
17:07.05 | infobot | hello, jazzee8845 |
17:07.27 | scgallafent | Archives was off for the discussion group, but on for the other two groups. |
17:07.50 | Jazzee8845 | <PROTECTED> |
17:07.50 | infobot | ACTION gives chocolate to jazzee8845 |
17:08.24 | Jazzee8845 | ~ are you happy? |
17:08.45 | Jazzee8845 | ~ re |
17:08.45 | infobot | somebody said re was religious education |
17:09.17 | Jazzee8845 | ~gmt |
17:09.17 | infobot | Generic Mapping Tools. URL: http://imina.soest.hawaii.edu/gmt/. Greenwich Mean Time |
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17:09.51 | Jazzee8845 | ~who is jazzee8845 |
17:09.51 | infobot | Jazzee8845: what are you talking about? |
17:10.18 | Jazzee8845 | ~give me £20,000 |
17:10.18 | infobot | ACTION gives £20,000 to jazzee8845 |
17:10.33 | Jazzee8845 | ~ $10000000000000 |
17:10.49 | Jazzee8845 | ~give me $1000000000000000000000 |
17:10.49 | infobot | ACTION gives $1000000000000000000000 to jazzee8845 |
17:11.29 | Jazzee8845 | tdeforest: was it great? |
17:11.31 | TimRiker | Jazzee8845, if you want to play with the bot, a good place to do that is in #infobot |
17:11.46 | TimRiker | or even better, in private chat. :) |
17:12.03 | Jazzee8845 | lol |
17:12.13 | Jazzee8845 | ok |
17:12.19 | TimRiker | try /msg infobot help to get started |
17:13.02 | Jazzee8845 | does it help to et started on ldstech? |
17:13.07 | TimRiker | yea! we have archives. :) |
17:13.18 | Jazzee8845 | kwl |
17:13.38 | TimRiker | Jazzee8845, infobot logs this channel and has some useful commands. it's not directly tied to ldstech. |
17:17.01 | Jazzee8845 | tdeforest how is lds tech going |
17:17.40 | Jazzee8845 | ? |
17:23.02 | Jazzee8845 | tccastaldo ho |
17:23.20 | Jazzee8845 | hows can volunteers help |
17:23.33 | Jazzee8845 | on ld tech project? |
17:24.38 | tccastaldo | I'm not in charge. I don't know what help is needed from volunteers at this point. |
17:24.58 | scgallafent | Jazzee8845: Don't you have a couple of projects you have gotten involved with |
17:25.27 | Jazzee8845 | yes, trying to help one more |
17:25.42 | coderjeff | Jazee8845: it's kinda hard to find anything to do |
17:30.08 | scgallafent | Jazzee8845: I've got something you can work on. I'll give you details in private message. |
17:30.15 | Jazzee8845 | ok |
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17:37.08 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
17:37.22 | scgallafent | Checking.... |
17:37.49 | TimRiker | looks like this is camping.lds.org at present. I just don't know if it's also cpas.lds.org |
17:37.53 | scgallafent | 5230 is live CPAS. They should be OK to upgrade. |
17:38.03 | TimRiker | k. thx. |
17:38.14 | scgallafent | camping.lds.org lives there temporarily while we wait to move to the new server (among other things). |
17:38.27 | TimRiker | nods. that's what I was thinking. |
17:38.28 | scgallafent | If they can let me know when the upgrade is complete, I'll do some testing. |
17:39.17 | TimRiker | k. copying you on the email reply. |
17:39.24 | scgallafent | OK. Thanks. |
17:39.45 | scgallafent | We still need to update cdev CPAS to MLU 1.8. Probably a good task for Later™. |
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17:44.28 | TimRiker | nods. probably should move from sles 10.1 to sles 10.3 while we're at it. |
17:44.41 | Jazzee8845 | timriker |
17:45.03 | Jazzee8845 | TimRiker this is a gread CV builder |
17:47.02 | scgallafent | Oooo. Big upgrade! |
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18:18.15 | Jazzee8845 | back |
18:20.41 | Jazzee8845 | is internet running slow? |
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18:31.45 | scgallafent | TimRiker, tdeforest: GGroups user panel with dataTables: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13237994/groups-usercp.png |
18:31.51 | scgallafent | Turned out OK. |
18:32.39 | tdeforest | how about that. |
18:32.47 | tdeforest | thanks scgallafent |
18:33.18 | scgallafent | I ended up throwing out the "no groups for project line and had to do a little creative styling. |
18:33.45 | scgallafent | Have to figure out why it won't sort on the subscribe/not subscribed column. |
18:35.01 | tdeforest | that seems strange |
18:35.16 | tdeforest | that shouldn't be a problem. |
18:35.29 | scgallafent | It may be because that column is dynamically updated. They originally all saying "Checking..." and then update after the AJAX call. |
18:35.40 | tdeforest | i can take a look at that if you want |
18:35.49 | tdeforest | hmmm |
18:36.05 | tdeforest | but if the dom is updated then it seems it would sort accordingly |
18:41.46 | scgallafent | Nope. It's not taking the value after the DOM is updated. Curious.... |
18:42.37 | scgallafent | "Typically DataTables will read information to be sorted during it's initialisation phase, and this will not be updated based on user interaction ...." |
18:43.32 | scgallafent | Ewwww. Definitely break time before I tackle this! |
18:44.21 | tdeforest | does this help: http://www.datatables.net/examples/data_sources/ajax.html |
18:45.50 | scgallafent | No. That will load it with AJAX. I "get" to use this: http://datatables.net/release-datatables/examples/plug-ins/dom_sort.html |
18:45.51 | TimRiker | jira on cdev was updated to 4.4.4 holler if anything broke! |
18:46.42 | TimRiker | scgallafent, can the group column be type/link and link to the archives? |
18:46.57 | scgallafent | Good idea. |
18:47.09 | TimRiker | type/archive perhaps |
18:47.22 | TimRiker | type/web ? whatever... :) |
18:47.38 | tdeforest | scgallafent: gotcha. i had to use this technique for columns that have selects in them |
18:48.38 | TimRiker | there is data-tables support for a checkbox. you could just make it a checkbox column. |
18:48.45 | tdeforest | didn't realize that this would apply to ajax applied changes. but i guess that makes sense since data tables also provides the ability to paginate results |
18:49.25 | scgallafent | Updated the image: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13237994/groups-usercp.png |
18:49.38 | scgallafent | Better, TimRiker? |
18:49.56 | TimRiker | the scheduler sorts by checkboxes for general and approval fields. ajax calls on change for those buttons. |
18:50.16 | TimRiker | scgallafent, yes. nice. |
18:50.37 | TimRiker | might make the project column a link to the project page. |
18:50.47 | scgallafent | Just working on that now. |
18:50.56 | TimRiker | awesome. great minds |
18:51.08 | scgallafent | I see what you're thinking. :) |
18:53.20 | scgallafent | Of course, now I should add the status of the group and sub/unsub links on the project page if you're a member of the project. If you give a mouse a cookie .... |
18:53.54 | tdeforest | hehe |
18:54.31 | scgallafent | target="_blank" isn't valid in XHTML. Anybody have a problem with me breaking the rules? |
18:54.45 | tccastaldo | :-O |
18:55.00 | scgallafent | It works; it just isn't valid XHTML. |
18:55.25 | tccastaldo | calls the W3C police |
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19:00.20 | tdeforest | that's not valid??? |
19:00.40 | scgallafent | I thought it wasn't. Checking.... |
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19:01.47 | scgallafent | XHTML 1.0 Transitional allows target. Strict doesn't. We're using Transitional, so all is well. |
19:02.32 | tdeforest | how about that. |
19:03.02 | scgallafent | I used Strict quite a bit and got used to not having target. At least not legally..... |
19:03.05 | tccastaldo | Hello, LDSTech! |
19:04.33 | tccastaldo | calls off the chase |
19:05.44 | tdeforest | i generally avoid target="_blank" but there are cases where it makes sense |
19:06.21 | scgallafent | I'm using it when the user clicks on the link to the group so they get a new window to groups.google.com. |
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19:06.48 | scgallafent | Hopefully that's a little less disconcerting than just jumping away from the LDSTech site. |
19:10.24 | tdeforest | i prefer to let users decide when new windows open. but i don't lose sleep over the matter. there are lots of opinions... |
19:11.20 | tccastaldo | I'm with tdeforest. |
19:15.52 | TimRiker | setup our "dashboard" display yesterday. you're now all on a 46" display over my desk. Say "Hello World!" :) |
19:16.03 | scgallafent | Hello, World! |
19:16.33 | tccastaldo | :D |
19:17.06 | scgallafent | I can change it. I'm not going to lose much sleep over it, either. |
19:17.22 | scgallafent | wonders if a comma belongs there, but isn't concerned enough to look it up right now |
19:19.33 | tccastaldo | Yes, scgallafent; your commas are right. |
19:20.15 | scgallafent | Glad to know the habit is correct. Sometimes my fingers get way out in front. |
19:21.47 | tccastaldo | :) |
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19:43.25 | tdeforest | hello world |
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20:23.15 | scgallafent | Just checked in the code for the Google Groups user control panel on cdev. Testers welcome. |
20:24.07 | TimRiker | tdeforest, you attending the planning meeting? |
20:24.14 | tdeforest | yes |
20:24.29 | tdeforest | just about to call in |
20:38.02 | tccastaldo | The last part of your comment got garbled. |
20:42.11 | tccastaldo | tdeforest, scgallafent, can you hear? |
20:42.17 | scgallafent | Yes. barely. |
20:42.21 | tccastaldo | I know we're talking softly. |
20:44.11 | josephscott | ~infobot turn up the volume |
20:52.04 | tccastaldo | ~hit TimRiker |
20:52.04 | infobot | ACTION punches TimRiker. |
20:52.43 | tccastaldo | Can't say he didn't ask for it. ;) |
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21:17.14 | tccastaldo | Sorry -- I was chatting away. |
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21:19.54 | tccastaldo | It's a good thing we're on the big screen. I wouldn't have noticed your comment, scgallafent, if it weren't on your side of the split. |
21:19.54 | tccastaldo | What opinion do you need? |
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21:19.54 | scgallafent | I'm working on degrading gracefully for the GGroup user control pannel. |
21:19.54 | scgallafent | s/pannel/panel/ |
21:20.11 | scgallafent | If you log into cdev Joomla and go to Projects, you see a new link called groups. Try it.... |
21:20.23 | tccastaldo | goes to try it... |
21:21.26 | tccastaldo | K |
21:21.26 | scgallafent | The status links on that page are built with an AJAX call. If JavaScript is disabled, that column is blank. |
21:21.35 | scgallafent | I've modified the page to show the status links without requiring JavaScript. |
21:21.48 | scgallafent | You don't get the +/- buttons to change status, but at least they're filled in. |
21:22.00 | tccastaldo | nods |
21:22.19 | scgallafent | The downside is that the page takes the full time to load with the new method, since the API call that is made by AJAX is now made as part of page load. |
21:22.29 | scgallafent | Do you think it's too long of a wait for the page load? |
21:22.35 | scgallafent | I can update cdev if you want to try the new version. |
21:23.02 | tccastaldo | Do you need to reload it, or can I just disable JavaScript? |
21:23.14 | tccastaldo | s/reload/update/ |
21:23.18 | scgallafent | If you disable JavaScript, you'll see what it looks like without. (Pre fix) |
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21:23.25 | tccastaldo | Ah. |
21:23.33 | scgallafent | Try that and then I'll update it. |
21:23.38 | tccastaldo | Okay. |
21:24.54 | scgallafent | It should look pretty naked without JavaScript. |
21:25.06 | tccastaldo | blushes |
21:25.59 | scgallafent | Ready for the update? |
21:26.14 | tdeforest | ready |
21:26.16 | tccastaldo | Aye. |
21:26.47 | scgallafent | OK. Reload the page and tell me if the wait is too long. |
21:27.05 | tccastaldo | Not for me in Chrome. |
21:27.12 | tdeforest | that was a reasonable load time |
21:27.25 | tccastaldo | I think it's fine. |
21:27.27 | scgallafent | OK. I'll keep the update. |
21:27.36 | scgallafent | It's nice to have a second and third opinion. |
21:27.57 | scgallafent | Thanks for checking it. |
21:28.13 | scgallafent | It's ready for testing and general abuse. |
21:28.20 | tccastaldo | Yw |
21:28.23 | tccastaldo | Awesome. |
21:34.59 | TimRiker | me adds some links to http://cdev.lds.org/ |
21:35.31 | tccastaldo | :D |
21:35.45 | tccastaldo | TimRiker++ |
21:35.56 | scgallafent | ~TimRiker++ |
21:36.17 | tccastaldo | Yes, of course that's what I meant. ;) |
21:36.26 | tccastaldo | ~TimRiker++ |
21:36.42 | tccastaldo | ~scgallafent++ |
21:36.54 | scgallafent | Aw, thanks. |
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21:37.36 | tdeforest | scgallafent: to enable groups admin on my local machine do i need the api key? |
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21:37.45 | scgallafent | Yes. |
21:37.52 | scgallafent | Hold on. |
21:50.07 | scgallafent | Just cleaned up the list of items on LDSTech v2.6.1 in JIRA and created v2.6.2. |
21:50.25 | scgallafent | Lunchtime |
21:51.20 | TimRiker | gets wsvn somewhat working in cdev |
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21:53.59 | Jazzee8845 | hi |
21:59.15 | Jazzee8845 | TimRiker: hows you? |
22:10.10 | Jazzee8845 | tccastaldo: you on? |
22:10.23 | tccastaldo | Yes. |
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22:14.15 | Jazzee8845 | how long does it take for a project manager to email back? |
22:15.08 | tccastaldo | Depends on the person and how busy he/she is. |
22:15.56 | Jazzee8845 | is hal in work roday? |
22:16.14 | tccastaldo | I saw him earlier...I think... |
22:17.09 | tomjohnson | TimRiker: Project managers in Joomla aren't admins, right? |
22:17.44 | Jazzee8845 | i am going to be helping him out with the blackberry app help and helping him with the wiki |
22:17.50 | Jazzee8845 | as community manager |
22:17.53 | TimRiker | not joomla admins no. but imho they should be gg managers, jira managers, swarm managers, etc. |
22:18.57 | tomjohnson | I'm just creating some instructions. If someone is a project lead, they have no means of looking to see volunteers who meet the skillsets defined by their project, right? |
22:19.35 | tomjohnson | When you or Alan create a new project, there's a section to "select the skills and expertise level needed for the project." I'm assuming you do that on behalf of project leaders, right? |
22:20.03 | TimRiker | does an s~/wsvn/wsvn/~/wsvn/~ on cdev |
22:25.09 | Jazzee8845 | have anyone seen broski? |
22:26.07 | tccastaldo | No, not today. |
22:27.30 | Jazzee8845 | when the next session |
22:27.31 | Jazzee8845 | live |
22:27.40 | tccastaldo | No, Google -- I actually meant "mongo chunks," not "mango chunks." |
22:28.31 | tccastaldo | Jazzee8845, not until May. |
22:28.49 | Jazzee8845 | ok what will it be about? |
22:29.19 | tccastaldo | http://tech.lds.org/wiki/LDSTech_broadcasts |
22:30.48 | tomjohnson | TimRiker, do people contact you or Alan to add a new project to Joomla? |
22:31.28 | Jazzee8845 | ok |
22:34.16 | Jazzee8845 | ~ night |
22:34.16 | infobot | G'night jazzee8845, get out of here. |
22:34.37 | Jazzee8845 | ~ you are in trouble |
22:34.37 | infobot | Jazzee8845: what are you talking about? |
22:34.47 | Jazzee8845 | ok night all |
22:34.55 | Jazzee8845 | ~ good night |
22:34.55 | infobot | Good night, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
22:35.52 | scgallafent | TimRiker: I just created LDSTECH-633 and am going to assign it to you. Can you add comments, pass it on to tdeforest for his comments, and we'll try to circulate it for comments and eventually back to me for coding? |
22:36.15 | Jazzee8845 | good night :) |
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22:47.24 | TimRiker | tomjohnson, a bit of both. alan knows more people in here to get the right contact. |
22:47.29 | TimRiker | scgallafent, sounds good. |
22:48.10 | TimRiker | tomjohnson, project leads can look at "available resources" to see people not yet in their project. |
22:48.42 | tomjohnson | in cdev, is there a test login that shows what the project manager sees? |
22:48.46 | TimRiker | tomjohnson, project managers can update the skills for a project themselves |
22:49.02 | tomjohnson | oh, I didn't know that. |
22:49.11 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
22:49.44 | tomjohnson | TimRiker, but I am looking for "project manager," not "site admin." |
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22:50.06 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
22:50.16 | tomjohnson | TimRiker, oh, I see. Thanks, |
22:50.50 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
22:54.31 | tomjohnson | pholder seems like a regular site admin, with the ability to create a new project. http://screencast.com/t/oY1wpZIcyXpL |
23:03.46 | TimRiker | tomjohnson, perhaps... |
23:03.57 | TimRiker | let me add JohnDoe as a project only admin |
23:04.11 | tomjohnson | thanks. |
23:05.05 | TimRiker | done |
23:07.49 | TimRiker | note.. as jadmin you could do the same. :) |