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01:10.29jallei haven't been able to get lds tools on windows phone to authenticate for several days now.  where do i go for help?
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03:22.21pmcnabbIs there a way to link android contacts with LDSTools? I'd like to be able to see who's calling without having to add the whole ward to my contacts..
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16:03.14*** topic/#ldstech is LDSTech Conference Mar 28-30: http://tech.lds.org/wiki/LDSTech_Conference || LDSTech: http://tech.lds.org/ || Public IRC Logs: http://infobot.rikers.org/%23ldstech/ || CIA: #ldstech-commits
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16:03.29smootar~meetstart LDSTech (late)
16:03.29infobot********** Start of the LDSTech (late) Meeting on 2012.03.08 16:03:29 **********
16:03.48smootarthanks TimRiker - Infobot kicker dude.
16:04.00TimRiker:)
16:04.07tccastaldo:)
16:04.21smootarAnything else tccastaldo ?
16:04.38tccastaldoSo, we're at 1018. Any way we can kick registration back up?
16:04.58TimRikerheh. you just wanna get to 1024
16:05.00tccastaldoAlso, just wondering, when is the schedule going to be ready?
16:05.13tccastaldoYes, but smootar wants 1200.
16:05.25smootar:)
16:05.37smootarI'm pleased with the current number though. :)
16:05.48tccastaldoOh, good. :)
16:06.03tccastaldoThat's all I have.
16:06.16smootarWith one project dropping out, I'm starting to wonder if others will do the same.
16:06.23smootarI'm concerned.
16:06.35smootarThx tccastaldo
16:06.36tccastaldoshares smootar's concern
16:06.40tccastaldoMp
16:06.54smootarTimRiker, ?
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16:07.24TimRikerbeen out sick, so somewhat disoriented...
16:07.35TimRikerpushed scheduler to production yesterday after tccastaldo's fix.
16:07.42tomjohnsonwhich project dropped out?
16:07.44TimRikerwish we had a test suite.
16:08.08TimRikericp reported errors and I found that a number of our systems in cdev had remounted root readonly.
16:08.24TimRikerapparently there was some san or vmware issue that was not reported?
16:08.27tccastaldoOoooo. :(
16:08.40TimRikerwe rebooted a number of machines. not sure if we got all the ones that need it.
16:08.43smootartomjohnson, Accesability
16:09.06TimRikerdlhace, we probably need a monitor on the machines that detects a read-only filesystem.
16:09.09tomjohnsonReally? I saw that he was updating a bunch of his wiki pages just this week. That surprises me.
16:09.44TimRikerhope to be back on coda today. there's some motion on wamulator in prep for the conference I suppose.
16:10.00TimRikerhoping Someone™ works on an ldap interface for it.
16:10.30TimRikerneed to fix coda issues with callings and membership fields so that cpas can get some of it's new features worked on.
16:10.46TimRikerthat's it for me.
16:11.04smootarTimRiker, thx
16:11.19smootarGood work for being sick. :)
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16:11.22smootarscgallafent, ?
16:11.26scgallafentWorked on GGroup import and started setting up local wiki to work on the skin issues tomjohnson is having.
16:11.26scgallafentMore of the same today.
16:11.44tomjohnsonhey that's great to hear.
16:11.56smootar:)
16:12.00TimRikerscgallafent, any luck with a proof of concept archive import?
16:12.28scgallafentYes. I've got a couple of issues to resolve, but it looks like it's going to work.
16:12.43smootarscgallafent, mentioned that yesterday if I'm not mistaken.
16:12.50TimRikersweet. screen scraping for archives? can we import the mailman archives too?
16:12.52scgallafentTimRiker was sick.
16:13.00smootarnods
16:13.05scgallafentNot sure about mailman, but I can get content from old GGroups.
16:13.11TimRikernice
16:13.50smootarAnything else scgallafent ?
16:13.55scgallafentNope
16:14.00smootarthanks.
16:14.22smootarmissing tdeforest hope his move is going well.
16:14.39smootardlhace, ?
16:14.45dlhaceyes
16:14.51smootarAnything today?
16:15.00dlhaceNot really.
16:15.18smootarnotes that dlhace is looking for a list of priorities and wants TimRiker to help with that list.
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16:15.45smootarTimRiker, can you help me with that?
16:15.53TimRikerdlhace, what are the ubuntu servers for? found them looking for machines that needed reboots yesterday.
16:16.03TimRikersure.
16:16.07smootar:)
16:16.12dlhacewhich ubuntu servers?
16:16.31smootarI'm thinking about the SWARM lanes needed.  Right now we have cdev and production.
16:16.39TimRikerl0747 for example.
16:17.30smootarLet's do the server discussion following this meeting.
16:17.46smootarlost him.
16:17.54smootarKFitz, ?
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16:18.13KFitzhi, I dont have anything
16:18.33smootarI got a SWARM demo this morning, i'll talk more in a minute about that.
16:18.33TimRikerwatches x restart. just luving this flakey thinkpad dock
16:18.44dlhaceIt might be one that I build for Bryan Austad
16:18.59smootarJazzee8845, ?
16:19.03Jazzee8845ok
16:19.14Jazzee88451.Remember to back up everything tonight in at least 2 places solar storm can stop computers power cuts  and system failures
16:19.14KFitzdid they plan a demo this morning that I missed?
16:19.25smootarnods at KFitz
16:19.30Jazzee88452.I am the community manager for lds art/music keeping up to date with volunteers
16:19.42KFitznod meaning I missed something?
16:19.42Jazzee88453.Waiting for new features on CPAS
16:20.08smootarnods yes
16:20.32smootarJazzee8845, that is great.
16:20.42smootarThanks for your efforts.
16:21.16smootartomjohnson, ?
16:21.22tomjohnsonI'm finishing up a section on the wiki I'm calling the "Community Project Handbook." I should finish that today, and I'll send out a link for you to review it.
16:21.23TimRikerdlhace, do you recall which box is our rhel 6.3 server that should replace l0757 ?
16:21.34tomjohnsonAlso, I'm glad to hear Steve is working on the wiki skin for 1.18. I'm compiling a list of tasks for the wiki project I'm leading at the upcoming conference, and the upgrade determines whether I can do certain things.
16:21.38tccastaldo:)
16:21.53tomjohnsonAlso, Directory is publishing a 2.0 release today. I have an article I'd like to push out on the blog that announces this new upgrade.
16:21.59smootartomjohnson, very cool
16:22.07TimRikerwhat's happening with a wiki upgrade?
16:22.34tomjohnsonI made as much progress as I could. There were some remaining issues with styling and WAM, and I asked Steve if he could complete the effort.
16:22.50TimRikerhave we pushed the update to cdev?
16:22.51smootarldap Directory or Ward Directory?
16:22.59tomjohnsonWard Directory.
16:23.01dlhaceI was thinking that it was the old chqpvul5161 server
16:23.02smootar:)
16:23.20tomjohnsonAll it has are a bunch more privacy options on a granular level, plus an overall privacy option per household.
16:23.32dlhacewhich I had rebuilt (it is now l5161)
16:23.46tomjohnsonOne feature they added a while ago was to show missionaries serving in and from your ward.
16:23.51tomjohnsonI wonder if that includes church service missionaries too.
16:23.52smootartomjohnson, is this in answer to some international concerns mainly?
16:24.11TimRikerdlhace, l5161 is rhel 6.1
16:24.18smootarhasn't seen that. Cool.
16:24.41smootaranything else tomjohnson ?
16:24.45tomjohnsoni actually have no idea. i asked that question this morning, but people deflected the answer and said it was simply giving people more privacy options.
16:24.54smootar:)
16:24.56scgallafentWe have a sister serving in our ward from Mongolia. Her name shows up in Mongolian and English.
16:25.06smootarwow
16:25.10TimRikerkewel
16:25.10tomjohnsoni don't think the missionary list shows church service missionaries, unfortunately.
16:25.14smootarunexpected.
16:25.28tomjohnsonthat's all for me.
16:25.31smootarthx
16:25.41smootarI saw an update on SWARM today
16:25.45smootarCode is not yet in SVN.
16:25.53smootarThey plan to have it there by tomorrow.
16:25.57TimRikerwhy not?
16:26.06smootarThat will allow us to it in cdev.
16:26.20smootarI requested that they check in multiple times a day in the future.
16:26.23smootarI'm not sure why not.
16:26.33smootarThey have made great progress.
16:26.45smootarIt appears most if not all web services are working.
16:26.51TimRikerif it's not in svn, then I'd argue they have made no progress
16:27.01smootarThey demoed createproject
16:27.09smootaraddtestcase
16:27.16smootarand showed it in the db.
16:27.44smootarThey also showed the creation of test cases in the UI.
16:27.52smootarAnd showed it in the db.
16:27.56TimRikercreateproject just takes a project key, right? /swarm/api/createproject/SAMPLE or similar?
16:28.03KFitznods at TimRiker… if its not in SVN, then its not done ;)
16:28.05smootarYes.
16:28.15smootarnods
16:28.51KFitzwhy wasnt it scheduled so we could see it too?
16:28.52smootarThey also have the execution of testcases that they demoed for only "passed".
16:28.53TimRikerthey should all be checking in what they are working on. continually. well, except for credentials! :)
16:29.04scgallafentchuckles
16:29.11smootarI don't know why you weren't invited KFitz, I was surprised when you weren't on the call.
16:29.24smootar:)
16:29.35KFitzI would have loved to have been there… (as the customer)
16:29.48scgallafentDetails, details.
16:29.52smootarKFitz, I was expecting you to be there. :(
16:30.09KFitzCant be where I am not scheduled ;)
16:30.30smootarThey plan to demo Tuesday morning for the iteration.  Do you have that on your schedule?
16:30.36smootar8AM Tuesday morning.
16:30.39TimRikerand often can't be places where he is scheduled either. :/
16:30.45KFitzyes that one I am scheduled for
16:30.58KFitzTimRiker Touche!
16:31.10KFitzThe problem is, I am often Triple booked
16:31.10smootarAnyway, I was glad to see good progress.
16:31.11TimRikerguess I am feeling better after all.
16:31.22smootarI will be happier when it is in SVN and we see it ourselves.
16:31.54smootarThey did say it will be in SVN by tomorrow.  They were heading to bed and wanted to do some more testing prior to check-in.
16:32.12smootarAnything else from anyone?
16:32.22smootar~meetend LDSTech
16:32.23infobot********** End of the LDSTech Meeting on 2012.03.08 16:32:23 **********
16:32.29smootarThanks all for joining.
16:32.48smootarTimRiker and dlhace can continue chasing servers down and stuff.
16:33.05TimRikerwamulator has some changes coming. probably announcing stuff today.
16:33.32smootarwonders how clean the SWARM code will be.
16:34.17KFitzTim could tell you… oh wait… he can't see it because it isnt checked in
16:34.56TimRikerlol
16:35.41TimRikerdlhace, http://rhelinstall.ldschurch.org//server/software/os/linux/ has rhel 6.2, but NOT 6.3 which I was told was the current "supported" version
16:36.08TimRikerImportant: Software in these subdirectories is for evaluation purposes only and is not supported in production.
16:36.28scgallafent6.2 is the latest stable RHEL release, isn't it?
16:41.06Jazzee8845joys of being welsh :)
16:44.44TimRikerscgallafent, yep, you're right. 6.2 / December 6, 2011;  I was thinking 6.3 was out.
16:45.21TimRikerhttps://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/6.2_Release_Notes/index.html
16:45.22scgallafentOf course, if we get 6.3 then it takes longer for the installation to get outdated. :)
16:46.07TimRikercourse if we could get ubuntu, upgrades could always happen in place.
16:46.24coderjeffdoes that also mean PHP 5.3 is in the future?
16:46.36tccastaldosmootar, FYI we still have 18 presentations without slides.
16:46.51smootarthx
16:47.03scgallafentI'm not holding my breath for Ubuntu.
16:47.46smootartccastaldo, I'll have to get an update from JoshBang on their responses.
16:47.49TimRikercoderjeff, yes. continually in the future.
16:47.49tccastaldoStephan Heilner is the pesenter for 3 of them, and he told JoshBang he won't be using slides.
16:47.50scgallafentcoderjeff, maybe. PHP 5.4 has been released, so that keeps us off the bleeding edge.
16:47.56tccastaldoK.
16:50.21TimRikeris truly frustrated with the level of support we get from the so-called server team
16:50.54dlhacethey changes some of the redhat repository stuff.  I asked them yesterday about the change, but have not received back the info
16:51.20dlhaceTimRiker. i will forward you the message on what they are doing
16:51.32TimRikerplease do
16:52.27TimRikerI feel like setting up our own ubuntu snapshot server. and doing rolling releases so we can track them.
16:52.52TimRikeryum update fails on l5161
16:53.25TimRikerhttp://rhelinstall.ldschurch.org/server/software/smt/ is empty
16:54.18TimRikerhttp://rhelinstall.ldschurch.org/ - Important: Software available on this server is for evaluation purposes only and is not supported in production.
16:54.34TimRikerso my question is: what _is_ supported in production?
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17:25.48legrandHey Tyler do you know if the scheduler registration issue (#127 in jira) has already been fixed?  We've tried to replicate the issue in cdev but it appears to be functioning properly.
17:27.40tccastaldoWhich one is that again?
17:28.58legrandDescription: "After a new user registers and clicks "Register", a dialog appears announcing their successful registration, but then the page does not redirect to their schedule. Sometimes an error page appears. This error manifests itself in production and cdev."
17:30.08tccastaldoHave you tried registering as a new user? I think most of the users on the list have been registered already.
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17:30.54legrandwe unregistered and reregistered--we'll try a completely new user
17:31.10tccastaldoOkay.
17:32.00tccastaldoBut it has to be one of the names on the list.
17:32.28tccastaldoHere -- let me take out a user for you...
17:34.22tccastaldoOkay.  alonzosl is now no longer in the system.
17:34.43tccastaldoUse alonzosl/password to log in.
17:36.20tccastaldoAfter clicking "Register" after filling out the form, you're supposed to be redirected home. As far as I know, you get a blank white screen instead.
17:41.28tccastaldolegrand, is it working for you?
17:42.01legrandwhen we tried to register that username it sent us to a "Bad Gateway" white screen
17:42.09legrandis that what you were expecting?
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17:42.49JoshBangtccastaldo, David Crockett sent me his slide deck, can you submit it for him?
17:43.19tccastaldoYes, I can.
17:43.40JoshBangK, I will email it to you
17:43.41JoshBangthanks
17:43.47tccastaldoBut he can submit it, too...unless something broke.
17:44.22tccastaldoDid he try recently? I guess I'll see what the e-mail says.
17:46.19JoshBangMaybe he did submit it already. I left him a voicemail that said that if he submitted his slidedeck before today(yesterday) then it didnt go through and I asked him if he could re submit it. I got an email from him earlier that said "Yes, I did submit. here it is" so I dont know if he tried again or not
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17:47.32tccastaldoOkay.  I'll look to see if it's there.
17:47.33JoshBangand I hate to be an even bigger pain, but can you send me another list of the people that dont have slidedecks? It should be fairly short
17:47.46JoshBanglike down to three or four people
17:48.17tccastaldoUmm...it's actually about 15.
17:48.22JoshBangseriously?
17:48.27tccastaldoYes.
17:48.40JoshBangI know that six of the projects people dont have slides
17:48.47JoshBangand three others are being canceled
17:48.56tccastaldoI'll update the list and send it to you when I can.
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17:49.03JoshBangK thanks
17:49.09tccastaldoProjects or presentations?
17:49.20JoshBangpresentations
17:49.26JoshBangmy bad
17:50.01JoshBangand what I mean is that they won't be using slides
17:50.49tccastaldoOh, okay.  Who's not using slides? That will cut the list down significantly.
17:50.59JoshBangStephen Hielner and David Weiss
17:51.16tccastaldoOkay. I'll take those off the list.
17:51.19JoshBangK thanks
17:51.42JoshBangand then David Staheli isnt presenting anymore
17:51.59JoshBangHe has three presentations
17:52.03tccastaldo:(
17:52.33tccastaldoOuch! So none of his presentations are happening at all?
17:52.37TimRikerdlhace, where are we with a coda11 deploy?
17:53.24JoshBangnope, he doesnt have the time :(
17:53.54tccastaldoSad.
17:53.58JoshBangyup
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17:55.11JoshBanghahaha I like how starbucks is on the list of restaurants for the LDSTech Conference
17:55.27tccastaldoLOL
17:55.47JoshBangThey actually have a lot of good items that dont have coffee in them, but I still think its kinf o ffunny
17:56.11JoshBangs/o ffunny/of funny
17:56.17JoshBangdang it
17:56.21JoshBangI forgot the last slash again
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18:02.05divakarOn LDSTech SWARM project I need clarification on the webservices
18:02.12divakari.e, At present we are pushing the projects data into our Local DB. And we are calling web services to collect that data.
18:02.21divakar<PROTECTED>
18:02.30divakarIf not, How can we invoke the create_project web service without the project_jirakey as we are not having any project_key?
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18:11.26scgallafent(ping TimRiker)
18:11.49scgallafentdivakar: Are you asking about the call coming to your web service from Joomla or the call SWARM makes out to another service.
18:12.10divakarYes
18:12.22divakarscgallafent: Yes
18:12.49scgallafentYes, the call from Joomla to Swarm or yes, the call from Swam to something else?
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18:14.28divakarscgallafent: My question is whether the service call from Joomla to Swarm
18:15.33scgallafentThe call from Joomla to Swarm can pass the Jira key as a parameter when it is made.
18:18.41tccastaldoJoshBang, I just sent you the list.
18:19.22tccastaldoI also uploaded David Crockett's slides.
18:25.35divakarOkay... so according to our understanding Joomla will push the project details into JIRA at first... After that Joomla will consume swarm web service to pass the JIRA key. In swarm application we need to validate whether that JIRA key is existed in JIRA app or not. If the project is existed in JIRA then we need to fetch the details like project name, description and created date and push that data into our SWAM database from the JI
18:27.05scgallafentdivakar: That sounds reasonable. It would be good to include a note in the method documentation that the project needs to exist in JIRA before calling Swarm so that we can make sure that the calls happen in the proper order when we modify Joomla.
18:32.34JoshBangThanks
18:32.36JoshBangtccastaldo,
18:33.02tccastaldonp
18:35.01divakarscgallafent: How can we update the project data in swarm database if the project data has been modified in JIRA?
18:36.24scgallafentI'm not sure if that has been addressed. It's probably better to send that question to the Google group for the project so it can be bounced around. We may need to call Swarm from Joomla to update the project data.
18:37.06JoshBangtccastaldo, hahahahaha the text in your email was hilarious
18:37.31tccastaldo:)
18:38.46divakarscgallafent: To update the project, do we need to call another SWARM web service from Joomla?
18:39.33scgallafentProbably. I'm not sure how frequently that will happen and it may not have been addressed in the original spec. That's why I'm thinking it should probably be sent to the mailing list so that it can be discussed more thoroughly.
18:39.52scgallafentI don't have the spec in front of me to look and see whether that was addressed.
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18:43.07divakarscgallafent: Okay, we will send a mail to lds group along this query— divakar, Today 12:10 AMOkay, shall we send a mail to LDS group along with this query?
18:43.21scgallafentSounds good.
18:43.54divakarscgallafent: Okay, Thanks
18:49.42divakarscgallafent: Do we have to call the assign_roles web service from Joomla to invoke JIRA call to get the users assigned to a project and push that data in the SWARM database?
18:50.41scgallafentdivakar: I would need to look at the spec for that.
18:50.59scgallafentI'm not sure how that ties into the mix.
18:51.12scgallafentTimRiker may know the answer if he is around.
18:51.46TimRikerhuh?
18:52.01TimRikerreads the history
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18:53.26TimRikerdivakar, I would expect joomla or something to call something like https://cdev.lds.org/swarm/api/createproject/SAMPLE and then swarm would call jira and lookup all the info for the SAMPLE project.
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18:54.26TimRikerdivakar, note joomla should NOT push any project details. it should just pass the key ie: SAMPLE and the rest comes from the jira soap interface.
18:55.40TimRikerI would say that calling  https://cdev.lds.org/swarm/api/createproject/SAMPLE again would see that this project is already defined, and updated any project details.
18:56.40TimRikerdivakar, if the project details included all the project roles, then there would be no need to call assign_roles. just createproject could do all of it.
18:57.18TimRikerif we do call assign_roles, then I would assume a similar behavior. swarm would lookup the roles in jira and cache them locally.
18:59.44scgallafentCalling createproject a second time to refresh the data seems like a pretty clean option.
19:00.56divakarTimRiker: Okay, At the time of create_project web service call from Joomla do we have to call the JIRA SOAP API to get the project roles along with the project details from JIRA?
19:01.29TimRikerthat would be easier that also requiring a call to assign_roles, don't you think?
19:06.45divakarTimRiker: Yes,I am thinking the same. But, how can we update the swarm database if new users have been added to the project in JIRA and that project is already there in the swarm database
19:08.02TimRikercreate_project should be re-callable. just call it again to update.
19:13.20divakarscgallafent, TimRiker: Okay. So whenever create_project service is called from Joomla we will check whether that project key is existed in JIRA. If it is existed then we will get the data from JIRA and check whether that project key is existed in swarm db project table. If it doesnot existed them we will push a new project record into the swarm database. If project jira key is existed in swarm database then we will update that reco
19:17.32TimRikerthat sounds good
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19:25.03divakarTimRiker: We are unable to connect to cdev JIRA from cdev SWARM with fake users credentials as we are getting only jadmin / jadmin as the ObSSOCookie. Can we directly change the credentials in the functionality page (php files where we are connecting to JIRA) to test the JIRA connection and to fetch the data from JIRA (on cdev env) or to insert data into JIRA (on cdev env) with the fake credentials?
19:25.56TimRikerwhat do you mean by: "we are getting only jadmin / jadmin as the ObSSOCookie" ?
19:27.15RedWork_TimRiker, do you still maintain BZFlag?
19:27.57TimRikerwhat fake credentials would you be inserting? we would not want to have to have everyone's ldsaccount password in clear text someplace. we should never be storing or asking for users passwords.
19:28.43TimRikerRedWerk, not done much with it for quite a while now. some of the other devs are mad about that, but they've not done much with it either.
19:29.07RedWerkheh, sounds like they don't have much to be mad about
19:29.31TimRikermy point exactly
19:29.37RedWerkI installed it on my kid's computer the other day
19:29.49RedWerkgot me thinking about it
19:30.21divakarTimRiker: When ever we are clicking on the "Sign in" button on the cdev SWARM project it is not prompting us to enter the credentials and instead it is redirecting to the projects displaying page. When we tried to check the stored cookie items we have found that jadmin details have been stored in the cookie data.
19:31.22TimRikerhow are you checking what's "store in the cookie data" ?
19:31.31TimRikers/store/stored/
19:32.03TimRikerare you signing out as jadmin before trying to signin as someone else?
19:32.36divakarTimRiker: By using the php function $_COOKIE we have found that
19:32.58TimRiker$_COOKIE is an array, not a function.
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19:33.23TimRikerand what $_COOKIE are you looking at?
19:33.39TimRikerand what are you seeing?
19:34.35TimRikeryou should see something like: ["ObSSOCookie"]=>
19:34.35TimRiker<PROTECTED>
19:34.44TimRikerwhich does not say "jadmin" anywhere.
19:35.59TimRikertry here for example: https://cdev.lds.org/phpstack/MLUService.test?signmein
19:36.21TimRikernotice that the username you login with is NOT shown anywhere in the $_COOKIE array.
19:37.54TimRikernot that subsequent reloads do NOT prompt you to put in credentials again. however going here: https://cdev.lds.org/phpstack/MLUService.test?signmeout will get you logged out, so that the next call to https://cdev.lds.org/phpstack/MLUService.test?signmein asks you for credentials again.
19:38.30TimRikerwhich still will not show "jadmin" in the $_COOKIE array.
19:41.19divakarTimRiker: Okay... At present I couldn't remember exactly whether I have found in $_COOKIE or $_SESSION but every time it is showing Jay admin on the UI header
19:42.04TimRiker$_SESSION will store whatever you put in it. it won't change unless you clear it or end a session.
19:42.26TimRikerthe http header will show whatever WAM thinks you are logged in as.
19:43.00TimRikerhttps://cdev.lds.org/phpstack/?signmein login as jadmin and in globals you will find things like:
19:44.04divakarTimRiker: I think that would be the one which is being displayed on the UI header is the name of the user who is logging into the SWARM application and it never changed.  So I thought that every time we are logging into the SWARM application with only 1 user credentials (Jay's)
19:44.41TimRiker$_SERVER['HTTP_POLICY_CN']="jadmin" and _SERVER['HTTP_POLICY_GIVENNAME']="Jay" etc.
19:45.12TimRikerhitting: https://cdev.lds.org/phpstack/?signmeout and then https://cdev.lds.org/phpstack/?signmein  will let you pick a different user and see different $_SERVER headers.
19:45.45divakarTimRiker: Yes, I have logged in to  https://cdev.lds.org/phpstack/?signmein with jadmin / jadmin
19:46.24TimRikerok, and seen jadmin headers. then logout and login with pholder/password and you should see pholder headers, yes?
19:48.02TimRikeryou mean that the current prototype has jadmin hard coded? yes, that's true. it's a prototype. that needs fixing.
19:48.31divakarTimRiker: Yes, now I have logged in as pholder and I can see pholder there in the headers
19:48.44TimRikerok. so what's your question?
19:49.34divakarTimRiker: How can we sign in with different users into cdev swarm application
19:49.36divakar?
19:50.06TimRikerby updating the template code to act like a real application and use ?signmein ?signmeout only over https.
19:53.06TimRikerkLDSAccount uses ldap. this should die. we should be using wam. that's what needs replacing.
19:53.08divakarTimRiker: I am unable to understand this. Are you asking us to placing the user's credentials in the functionality on SWARM where we are connecting with JIRA through swarm aplication
19:54.36TimRikerthe user should sign into WAM using single signon. then swarm should get user details from $_SERVER variables. when calling JIRA as that user, swarm should pass on the ObSSOCookie so that JIRA re-uses the users SSO session.
19:55.05TimRikerwhen calling jira where we need admin (if there are any cases that do) we should have a local-config.php username and password to use for admin.
19:56.05TimRikerI can't think of a case for that though. reusing the ObSSOCookie should be the primary means.
20:00.18divakarTimRiker: But, as we are thinking that current user credentials are hard coded in swarm dev env, is there any other way to test the fake users?
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20:04.43TimRikerthe user is hardcoded in the current _prototype_. This is NOT an application. this is NOT a dev env. This is a _prototype_.
20:05.51TimRikerit does NOT implement WAM authentication. The application NEEDS to utilize WAM authentication. the prototype does NOT. please do NOT do what the prototype does. please use WAM authentication as we have discussed.
20:05.52divakarTimRiker: Testing fake users means connecting to cdev JIRA by using fake user credentials, insert data into the cdev JIRA the fake user credentials and get the data from cdev JIRA to cdev swarm by using the fake user authentications (ObSSOCookie)
20:06.33TimRikeryes. and NOT ldap as miss-implemented by the prototype.
20:07.12TimRikerback in 10 minutes...
20:07.32divakarTimRiker: Okay
20:17.29TimRikerI just copied in a ksso.php from the icp project. that's closer to what we should be using.
20:28.00divakarTimRiker: Can I know in which folder you have added ksso.php
20:28.27TimRikeryou could update from svn, and it would be obvious. I added it to kib/
20:29.10scgallafentDid you commit? It doesn't show up in #ldstech-commits or wsvn.
20:29.47divakarTimRiker: One moment
20:30.01TimRikereeep! duh. nope, started editing but had not commited. my fault. sorry.
20:30.02divakarI am connecting to SVN
20:30.16scgallafentthinks computers should know what you want them to do!
20:35.58Jazzee8845alan
20:37.39divakarTimRiker: Okay, Thanks. I will check the functionality tomorrow and I will let you if I find any difficulty working with this.
20:37.56Jazzee8845smootar
20:42.08smootarJazzee8845, ?
20:53.17TimRikerok, implemented simple sso for swarm... testing welcome.
20:58.27TimRikerFatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 16 bytes) in /srv/www/htdocs/ldstech/joomla/libraries/joomla/error/exception.php on line 117
20:58.30TimRikerneato
20:58.56scgallafentWasn't 64K of RAM supposed to be plenty?
21:00.54TimRikerworks for me locally, but joomla on cdev is giving that...
21:01.02TimRikerhttp://cdev.lds.org/ldstech/joomla/
21:02.02scgallafentHelpful message, too.
21:03.42TimRikerhelps to clean out mysql sessions table after filesystem failure the other day... :)
21:03.47TimRikerwe're back.
21:18.17scgallafentsmootar: I got the meeting invite from Jenny for 8:30am MDT on Mar 13. We have a Swam demo at 8:00.
21:18.22scgallafentAre the meetings going to step on each other?
21:19.46scgallafentThat would be a _Swarm_ demo.
21:20.06TimRikerno swams?
21:20.37scgallafentNo, but maybe we could get some swan ice sculptures.
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21:40.17TimRikeras long as there are no swamis I guess I'm good.
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23:16.30scgallafentTimRiker: JIRA is returning 503.
23:16.46scgallafentMaybe they've started the upgrade.
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