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14:21.43tccastaldowonders where scgallafent is located at this point in time
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14:39.49tccastaldosmootar is having problems connecting to IRC this morning.
14:39.55tccastaldoHas anyone else had any trouble?
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14:42.08smootar~identify
14:42.08infobotExtensible Integrated Development Environment. URL: http://www.pietrobo.com/projects/IDEntify/
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14:55.37scgallafenttccastaldo: I'm in Pocatello, Idaho, today.
14:55.48scgallafentTimRiker is in St. George.
14:55.54tccastaldoAh.
14:56.30tdeforesthowdy scgallafent
14:56.39scgallafentmoin
14:57.52TimRikeris indeed in St. George. enjoyed conference weekend. what's cookin'?
14:58.25scgallafenttccastaldo was just looking at your empty chair.
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15:00.05denniskgood morning
15:00.34tccastaldoHi.
15:00.37tccastaldoI'm here.
15:00.41tccastaldo;)
15:00.49denniskstill having trouble getting xchat to work so I'm defaulting to web irc
15:01.23tccastaldo~nudge smootar
15:01.23infobotACTION elbows smootar until he gets smootar's attention
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15:02.36smootar~meetstart LDSTech
15:02.36infobot********** Start of the LDSTech Meeting on 2012.04.02 15:02:36 **********
15:02.40smootarWho is all here?
15:02.44scgallafentmoin
15:02.45tccastaldoI am.
15:02.52denniskme too
15:02.59TimRikeryawns
15:03.04smootar:)
15:03.13tccastaldo= partially here
15:03.16smootartccastaldo: do you want to start?
15:03.23tccastaldoOh...okay.
15:03.27denniskThis is late for me. usualy 8 am (my time)
15:03.38tccastaldoLast week I participated in LDSTech Conference.
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15:03.56fullmercbI'm here
15:04.24tccastaldoI did some setup and then mostly helped by guiding people in getting their LDSTech dev environments set up.
15:05.02tccastaldohears three people praising smootar for a job well done with the conference
15:05.47smootarhas had good feedback coming from many people. The team did a great job!!!!
15:06.11tccastaldoI'm going to try and quickly come up with functionality for scheduler that allows viewing feedback properly.  That got put on hold while I was doing other setup stuff for conference.
15:06.45tccastaldoThat's it for me.
15:07.04smootarTHanks.
15:07.06tccastaldoFYI, I have a week and a half left before I pack up and move back to Rexburg.
15:07.07smootarscgallafent: ?
15:07.12scgallafentI went to the LDSTech Conference last week. It was pretty good.
15:07.12scgallafentCPAS had some issues yesterday. Evidently we spoke too soon about it on Friday.
15:07.12scgallafentWorked with dlhace last night to resolve the problems.
15:07.12scgallafentI'm doing some chasing around today and will probably spend some time later deciding what to start working on.
15:07.12scgallafentThat is all.
15:07.41smootarWhat happened with CPAS?
15:07.48smootarDo we know why the db was down?
15:07.51scgallafentNo.
15:08.02scgallafentdlhace looked at the logs and there weren't any entries in the logs.
15:08.10scgallafentHe restarted the database and it was working fine.
15:08.12smootarKFitz said that there was a db outage, he is standing here by me.
15:08.25smootarnetwork outage, sorry.
15:08.32scgallafentThe db is on the local machine.
15:08.35tdeforesthere
15:08.36tccastaldoHi, KFitz.
15:08.51scgallafentSo I'm not sure why it was down, but it's up.
15:08.51smootarHe was on a P1 call during the 2nd session of conference yesterday.
15:09.01TimRikerscgallafent, did the host reboot? ie: have we checked uptime?
15:09.13scgallafentWe didn't. We just got it back online and left it for today.
15:09.17TimRikerk
15:09.25scgallafentIt would probably be good for you to log in and see what you can see.
15:09.45smootarIt probably should have recovered once the network went down.
15:10.03smootarThey were manually rebooting many servers yesterday.
15:10.14smootarInfo from KFitz.
15:10.17scgallafentMaybe it's not set to start automatically.
15:10.34scgallafentIt would be worth having TimRiker take a look at it.
15:10.50smootaragrees.
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15:10.56scgallafentThat's it for me.
15:11.02smootarThanks scgallafent
15:11.29NatehammerAnyone wanna help a noobie with an easy question?
15:11.30smootarTimRiker: ?
15:11.50smootarNatehammer: we are just having a quick discussion, can you wait about 20 minutes?
15:11.58Natehammeryou bet.
15:12.01smootarThen we would love to help.
15:12.12NatehammerI'll come back. :)
15:12.13smootarThanks Natehammer
15:12.31smootarTimRiker: ?
15:12.45TimRikermoin
15:13.04smootarHow did things go for you the last couple of work days?
15:13.06TimRikerhad a blast at the ldstech conference. a bunch of folks signing up for projects. should check the funnel today.
15:13.18TimRikerdown in st george for a day or two.
15:13.38TimRikerworking from here. will try to get rockmongo running someplace so others can get to the feedback list etc.
15:14.05carmonygood morning :)
15:14.05TimRikerno other big plans today. holler if I can help with the db issue.
15:14.15TimRikerthat's it for me
15:14.51smootarmorning carmony
15:14.56smootarThanks TimRiker
15:15.03smootarI did notice a big jump in the funnel report.
15:15.09TimRiker:)
15:15.10smootarLots of people signing up for projects.
15:15.22smootartdeforest: ?
15:15.36tdeforesthosted great LDSTech work sessions during the conference. lots of good people participating. will be sending out an email today requesting feedback from attendees. will also be working with fullmercb to get things ready for silicon valley chapter.
15:15.36TimRikerneed to add number of people in the forums to the funnel charts.
15:16.19tdeforestreally enjoyed the conference
15:16.27tdeforestthat is all
15:16.27smootar:)
15:16.32smootarGreat thanks.
15:16.35smootarfullmercb: ?
15:16.37fullmercbI heard much better feedback throughout the conference than the previous 2 yrs.  More spiritual, and we were more prepared to do project work. Well done!
15:16.47fullmercbI created this public google doc & sent to the conf committee asking them to use it to capture feedback about the conference: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhHsrX_JtN9GdG9DY2NRZUVseHRFeEZTTmFHdkJhYnc#gid=0
15:17.02fullmercbfor the most part, people aren't using it :(
15:17.05smootarthat spreadsheet will be used at our 11AM meeting.
15:17.25fullmercbI’m very excited about the new recruits we found on Friday to help us with LDSTech dev work.  
15:17.27fullmercbI'll see if I can organize it better before 11
15:17.34fullmercbI will be adding more definition to the 2.6.4 Jira tasks for the Silicon Valley chapter and working with Tom on wireframes for those 9 tasks – they like what we’ve given them.
15:17.36smootar:)
15:17.44fullmercbI’ll also work this week with Ted Boren to digest the feedback from his True Intent study & use that to inform our roadmap & to organize Jira etc.  I’d like to move us towards using more of a Scrum process if possible
15:17.47fullmercbthat's it for me
15:18.11smootarThanks fullmercb.
15:18.15smootarzakzakattack: ?
15:19.04zakzakattacktech conferance was awesome, working on test cses for LDStech today.
15:19.08TimRikerfullmercb, note: admins and approvers can use the conf feedback form for others. just another option.
15:19.22zakzakattackthat is it i think.
15:19.34smootarThx zakzakattack
15:19.50fullmercb?
15:19.55smootarWe plan to point to the conference feedback link in scheduler for our email today, correct tdeforest ?
15:20.01tdeforestyes
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15:20.44smootardennisk: ?
15:20.48denniskFirst, fullercb – thanks for the PH ticket the seat was great, best I've ever had at a conference.
15:21.00denniskThe conference presentations were great.  Organization could have been a little better.
15:21.02fullmercbno problem
15:21.13denniskNext year I'd like to help out in the printed material, maps, etc. I got confused trying to figure out where things were at.
15:21.21denniskProbably just my simple mind but sometimes a simple mind can make things clearer for other simple minds ;-)
15:21.48denniskI noticed there are still a couple of items that need to be closed. One on 2.6 and another on 2.6.2
15:21.48smootarwant dennisk's feedback in our spreadsheet.
15:21.58denniskzakzakattack – are you making any progress?
15:21.58tccastaldoblames Scheduler
15:22.16denniskI'll put it htere this morning
15:22.28smootarthanks dennisk: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhHsrX_JtN9GdG9DY2NRZUVseHRFeEZTTmFHdkJhYnc#gid=0
15:22.42denniskthat's all for me
15:22.48zakzakattackgot all done last week  exept 1 in V.2.6.2
15:22.59denniskgreat
15:23.04smootarAs you provide feedback, please make it specific enough that it is actionable for next year.
15:23.05denniskthank you
15:23.15denniskok
15:23.35smootarSo when you say organize better, please state what.  Was it just the maps?  Or you need the schedule earlier, or what ever it is.
15:23.45smootarI would appreciate it.
15:23.50smootarThanks dennisk
15:23.55smootardlhace: ?
15:23.55denniskwill do
15:23.57TimRikerroom assignments earlier so they can be debugged. :)
15:24.03smootar:)
15:24.40smootarthinks room assignments were painful for Bryan Austad.
15:24.46TimRikernods
15:24.55smootardlhace, do you have anything?
15:25.35smootardlhace had a couple of emergencies during the conference.  I appreciate his help in handling those quickly.
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15:26.15smootarscgallafent: carmony is here to help with the LDSTech project.
15:26.27scgallafentOK.
15:26.33smootarIf you can get him dev rights to the project, I would appreciate it.
15:26.51scgallafentChecking now.
15:26.58carmonythanks
15:27.09scgallafentI was disconnected for a minute. Did I miss anything from dlhace?
15:27.10smootarjosephscott: it was great to have you at the conference.  Any feedback?
15:27.23smootarNo response from dlhace yet.
15:27.34fullmercbwho is dlhace?
15:27.41tdeforestenjoyed meeting scgallafent, broski, and dennisk in person
15:27.46smootarDave H.
15:27.49josephscottmostly what I'd mentioned before
15:28.10josephscottfelt like in general the conf is gradually getting better at attracting the right group of people
15:28.40tdeforestwonders if coderjeff was at the conference?
15:28.44smootarthinks anyone should feel free to add comments to our spreadsheet.
15:29.08smootarI don't remember meeting coderjeff
15:29.13smootarat the conference.
15:29.18coderjeffwas there Friday - great job everyone
15:29.26tdeforestalso enjoyed seeing josephscott again
15:29.51tdeforestawww. i wish i had met you coderjeff
15:29.55smootarwould have liked to have said hello to coderjeff
15:29.57josephscottit was good to see everyone one again
15:30.03tdeforestglad you enjoyed friday
15:30.16smootarGlad Friday was good.
15:30.22smootarOK, anything else?
15:30.25smootarWe are out of time.
15:30.33smootar~meetend LDSTech
15:30.33infobot********** End of the LDSTech Meeting on 2012.04.02 15:30:33 **********
15:30.36smootarThanks everyonel.
15:30.57smootareveryone.
15:31.36tccastaldonotices a lot more people logged in today
15:32.15tccastaldoOkay, maybe not a lot, but a least a few more people. :)
15:34.53tdeforestcarmony, welcome to ldstech
15:35.22carmonytdeforest: thanks :) I've volunteered before, figured I should get back into it
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15:36.07tdeforestgreat to have you back carmony :)
15:36.54TimRikeris still fussing with his internet connection. not sure why it's still trying to use the internal proxy when I'm not internal.
15:37.06carmonylol, poor tim :P
15:37.17tdeforestpro karma will be checking code into cdev today for swarm
15:37.42dlhacesorry had to run to a staff meeting,,,but i don't have anything anyway
15:38.40scgallafentdlhace, it sounds like there was a network issue and they were rebooting machines yesterday.
15:38.52scgallafentYou may want to check the CPAS server and see if it was rebooted yesterday.
15:39.02scgallafentIt could be that it was rebooted and MySQL isn't set to start automatically.
15:40.06TimRikertccastaldo, there are 6 conf feedback entries in production.
15:40.21tccastaldoWow.
15:40.25TimRikerthere were 4 on Thursday.
15:40.28dlhaceyeah it looks like it has only been up 23 hours
15:41.47dlhaceIt is now set to start on startup
15:41.53scgallafentWas it not set before?
15:41.56tccastaldoAre there any course feedback entries?
15:42.27dlhacewhat is chqpvul5109?  I have it listed as CPAS
15:42.33scgallafentLooking...
15:42.46dlhaceIs it a test system?
15:43.10TimRikerbryan submitted feedback for himself. one other note on the poor lighting for keynotes with slides.
15:43.25scgallafentI'm not sure what 5109 is. It's on the server list, but doesn't have a description.
15:43.32scgallafent5230 is the CPAS production server.
15:43.55tccastaldoK. Thanks, TimRiker.
15:44.03TimRikerdoes not recall what 5109 is either.
15:44.16scgallafentI'm looking through email. I've got a couple of emails about it. Just a minute.
15:45.15scgallafentAccording to the email I've got, it looks like 5109 is a development server.
15:45.32scgallafentBSIR, CPAS, LDSTech, RecProp, SGumbo, YSA.
15:45.58TimRikerah! is that the machine that used to proxy from l5488 before we had cdev setup?
15:46.08scgallafentLooks like it.
15:46.21scgallafentI'm reading some emails about problems with it in May 2011.
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15:46.56TimRikerk. last I recall we left all the apps on it, but shut down the web server and stopped routing anything to it.
15:47.07scgallafentSounds like it needs to be reviewed and repurposed.
15:47.18TimRikerit's in the production zone right? so perhaps we should put something production on it instead. :)
15:47.35scgallafentBased on the emails, it was definitely running RecProp last spring.
15:47.52dlhaceOk I have it as being repurposed
15:48.17dlhaceI don't think that I actually knew what the CPAS prod was until this weekednd
15:48.21dlhaceweekend
15:48.27scgallafentHard way to find out.
15:48.44scgallafentWe had a recprop instance on that box that will eventually need to be removed, but not yet.
15:49.07TimRikernot yet?
15:49.30scgallafentNo. We've got to transfer some data off to Someone™.
15:49.41carmonylol, I like the (tm) :P
15:50.00TimRikerfrom that machine? that's not where camping.lds.org live[sd]
15:50.17scgallafentIt was on the CPAS production box, wasn't it.
15:50.19scgallafent?
15:50.29TimRikerthat's where the dev instance was before l0757 went live.
15:50.38dlhaceAhh it looks like the server is actually supported by Member/Leader
15:50.56scgallafent5109?
15:51.01scgallafentor 5230?
15:51.15dlhacechqpvul5230
15:51.22TimRikerl5230 is where camping was. l5109 had the old recprop dev instance.
15:51.37scgallafentdlhace, that makes sense.
15:51.48scgallafentTimRiker, that's how I understand it.
15:51.52TimRikerwhich server is supported by member leader?
15:51.56dlhaceI show l5109 is ours
15:52.26dlhacechqpvul5230 is member/leader
15:52.39scgallafentThat makes sense, since it is the CPAS production box.
15:52.41TimRikerah. ok. that makes sense. it's cpas production.
15:52.48TimRikergrins
15:52.59dlhaceCory Pence.  Although Tim R. and Tom W. have been added as contact
15:53.14TimRikerthere is a recprop production machine around someplace, but I don't recall where. I don't think it was ever setup.
15:53.33scgallafentI think I've got the machine name....
15:53.52TimRikerah. l0038 was supposed to be recprop production
15:53.53scgallafentl0038.
15:53.57TimRikerbeat ya.
15:54.18scgallafentWho's paying the bill for l0038?
15:54.22TimRiker1 2 3 4 5 you owe me a soda.
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15:54.39scgallafentTrade you for beating you on the CPAS box. :)
15:54.59scgallafentI probably ought to check with Steve K and see what happens with l0038.
15:55.23scgallafentGiven that there is still some question about how things will eventually shake out, we probably don't want to disturb too much right now.
15:55.54TimRikeragrees
15:58.34dlhaceCory Pence is listed as the ASE for l0038
15:58.46scgallafentMember/Leader again?
15:59.34dlhaceyes
15:59.50dlhaceI thought it would be a temporal affairs group
16:00.05scgallafentNobody seems to know what it should be right now. :)
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17:04.12tccastaldoTimRiker, are you going to call in?
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17:10.35TimRikeroh. I suppose...
17:10.56tccastaldoOnly if you want to. ;)
17:13.46jdavid26what is the elder's name who we assign an fixed issues to?
17:19.40tccastaldojdavid26, that would be Elder Rogers.
17:20.06tccastaldoThat's if you're working on LDSTech.
17:21.48jdavid26Thanks. That's the name I needed.
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17:54.53Jazzee8845?
17:55.07tccastaldoJazzee8845, we have a meeting right now.  We'll be done in about six minutes.
17:55.12Jazzee8845scgallafent well done with CPAS
17:55.21Jazzee8845thanks tccastaldo
17:55.37scgallafentThanks, Jazzee8845.
17:56.07Jazzee8845watch it live when you spoke what an amazing blessing :')
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17:59.27Jazzee8845um
17:59.41Jazzee8845who is incharge of getting confrence right?
18:00.02Jazzee8845general confrence
18:00.25Jazzee8845??
18:00.37Jazzee8845on lds tech?
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18:11.09Jazzee8845?
18:13.10smootarjazz
18:13.18smootarJazzee8845, whats up?
18:14.00Jazzee8845i would like to congratulate you on lds tech confrence :)
18:14.16Jazzee8845for general confrence i had a bit of tech failure
18:14.23smootarThanks.
18:14.29smootarUnfortuniate about Gen Conf.
18:14.32smootarWhat happened?
18:15.22Jazzee8845during boyed k packers talk
18:16.30smootarok?
18:16.32Jazzee8845and
18:16.40Jazzee8845esplin
18:16.52Jazzee8845cheryl esplins talk
18:17.15Jazzee8845i had 3 languages play at me from my computer when it was selected on engils
18:17.19Jazzee8845engish
18:18.11smootar:(
18:18.54smootarI'm curious what OS and Browser you were using.
18:19.52Jazzee8845v9
18:19.56Jazzee8845windows vista
18:20.18smootarie 9 and windows vista?
18:20.22Jazzee8845i tried seeing for contact numbers there where none
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18:20.26Jazzee8845yes
18:21.22smootarThat sounds like a bad combination for many experiences, but in theory should work.
18:21.56Jazzee8845it didnt do it at the other sessions
18:22.07smootarOne place you can send your feedback is to: globalservicecenter@ldschurch.org
18:22.27smootarI'm not over General Conference, but provide them as much detail as you can.
18:22.40smootarThey should be able to route it to the right group.
18:23.11Jazzee8845any phone numers so if it happens again i should be able to get it sorted
18:23.26smootarhttp://tech.lds.org/wiki/Global_Service_Center_-_IT_Support
18:24.40Jazzee8845thanks
18:25.39smootaryw
18:26.17Jazzee8845good conducting and i was listening from wales would of loved to of been there in person
18:26.36Jazzee8845lds tech confrence :)
18:26.43smootarWas the broadcast clear for all 3 days?
18:26.54Jazzee8845yes
18:26.55smootarWed - Fri?
18:27.04smootarThat is great to hear.
18:27.33Jazzee8845you know they was a recoring of some classes
18:27.49Jazzee8845recording*
18:29.25Jazzee8845?
18:30.55Jazzee8845?
18:35.12Jazzee8845they where brillent as well
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19:32.21TimRikerhmm. jadmin appears to not have rights to admin svnrm anymore.
19:32.33tccastaldo??
19:32.43TimRikerstarting to dig into svnrm issues
19:36.54Jazzee8845TimRiker
19:37.01Jazzee8845how are you doing?
19:40.56jdavid26Can I mark issues as duplicate in the Jira LDSTech project?
19:41.37tccastaldojdavid26, are you asking if you are able to or if you have permission to?
19:41.49Jazzee8845whos in chanrge of calanders and something
19:42.44Jazzee8845i know how systems get jammed pack that you have to buy more systems?
19:45.08Jazzee8845is hal around
19:49.15jdavid26tccastaldo, yes. It looks like I don't have permission to. If not, that's fine. I don't suppose I'll need to do it often.
19:49.57tccastaldojdavid26, which ones are duplicates?
19:50.07jdavid26I thought I'd ask in case I do have permissions to do it, and I am just missing something.
19:50.57tccastaldoI'm not sure if you have permissions or not.
19:51.17tccastaldoDo you know how to mark duplicates?
19:52.37jdavid26LDSTECH-608 and LDSTECH-558
19:52.42TimRikergreat cdev phpstack shows as down now... wish our infrastructure were more reliable.
19:53.13jdavid26No. I don't know how to mark duplicates.
19:53.24carmonyTimRiker: thats what the cloud is for, isn't it? </sarcasm>
19:53.47tccastaldoAll right.  Try this, jdavid26:
19:54.08tccastaldoGo to the open issues list.
19:54.17tccastaldo(Let me know when you get there.)
19:54.45jdavid26I'm there.
19:55.35tccastaldoOkay.  Hover your mouse pointer to the right of the "Due" column on any of the issues.  You should see a gear logo under your mouse pointer.
19:55.55Jazzee8845tccastaldo do you know how to make a app
19:56.41Jazzee8845on blackberry
19:56.57tccastaldojdavid26, if you click on the gear, you'll see a menu with a bunch of options for that particular item.
19:57.19jdavid26tccastaldo, okay. I see it.
19:57.59tccastaldoOne of the menu items is "Link." Click on that, and a dialog opens.
19:58.48tccastaldoOn that dialog, there is a drop-down with a few options in it.  One of these options is "Duplicates."
19:59.54jdavid26Ah, "Link" is not available. I must not have the permissions.
20:00.13tccastaldoOkay.
20:00.15tccastaldoBummer.
20:00.41tccastaldoIf you see any duplicates, you can let me know and I can handle them for you.
20:01.13jdavid26Ok sounds good.
20:01.20jdavid26Thank you.
20:01.31tccastaldoMy pleasure.
20:03.01jdavid26LDSTECH-608 and LDSTECH558 are at least marked as related. They are duplicates.
20:03.30tccastaldoK
20:03.32tccastaldo.
20:04.10tccastaldoJazzee8845, I haven't done BlackBerry development in a while, but I believe you can find the SDK at RIM's website.
20:05.04Jazzee8845study notebook apps
20:05.14Jazzee8845that the church has on tools
20:05.37Jazzee8845as a app on mobile phones
20:06.27Jazzee8845if you are with me
20:06.46tccastaldoK.  What about it?
20:07.33Jazzee8845that we would be able to store notes of general confrence talks and speakers in church
20:08.05tccastaldoAre you talking about mobile integration of the Study Notebook?
20:08.05Jazzee8845in the my studynotebook on lds tools via the app
20:08.15Jazzee8845yes :)
20:08.24tccastaldoI don't know if that's already in the works or not.
20:09.15tccastaldoIt might be.
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21:03.06jdavid26Should I expect to see the same front-end design for the Wiki on my local setup as we see on http://tech.lds.org/wiki/ ?
21:06.51tccastaldoFrom my experience, no -- but I don't know why it can't be that way.  Unfortunately, I don't have instructions for making a local build for MediaWiki look like the LDSTech wiki.
21:12.22TimRikerthe mediawiki in svn should look the same as cdev and production.
21:12.40tccastaldoHmmm...
21:13.16tccastaldoIf that's the case, then there's a serious flaw in the README instructions.
21:15.02jdavid26I'll review the README instructions to see if I'm missing anything.
21:15.26tccastaldoI don't think you are.
21:15.34tccastaldoSince I wrote them. ;)
21:15.51tccastaldoSo it isn't your fault, but there's something wrong.
21:20.15jdavid26Haha. Well that's good to know. The wiki on my local setup is not styled at all.
21:20.29tccastaldoDoes it have any content?
21:21.52jdavid26It looks like the default wiki database.
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21:22.19tccastaldoYeah.  So...I don't know what importing the database does.
21:23.01tccastaldoI suspect there's a setting in within LocalSettings.php that needs to be changed after the file is created.
21:24.52jdavid26Thanks. I'm looking more at that. Will let you know how things go.
21:28.37jdavid26tccastaldo, I'm looking at ldstech/wiki/LocalSettings.php lines 59 through 64 and it looks like the correct database… is there another setting you suggest looking at?
21:30.10tccastaldoNo...hmm....
21:30.24tccastaldowonders if the database is somehow wrong...
21:32.33jdavid26that's definitely possible.
21:33.54tdeforesttccastaldo, were there any of those little backpacks left over from the conference?
21:34.09jdavid26My settings look like this:
21:34.20tccastaldoGood question, tdeforest.  Do you want one?
21:34.28tdeforestsi
21:34.50tdeforestjdavid26, you have to set the ldstech skin to be the default once you have mediawiki set up
21:34.54tccastaldoI can give you mine.  I don't really like those bags, and I already have at least one somewhere.
21:35.07tdeforestsweet. is it at your desk?
21:35.10jdavid26$wgDBtype           = "mysql";
21:35.11jdavid26$wgDBserver         = "localhost";
21:35.11jdavid26$wgDBname           = "mediawiki";
21:35.11jdavid26$wgDBuser           = "ldstechw";
21:35.11jdavid26$wgDBpassword       = "password";
21:35.17tccastaldoAye.
21:35.38tccastaldojdavid26, those look a lot like mine, and I'm having the same behavior as you.
21:38.43tccastaldoAccording to tdeforest, there's a setting somewhere in the file that determines the skin used for the wiki.
21:39.07tccastaldoHe didn't know what it is off the top of his head, and neither do I, so I'll do some poking around.
21:39.43tdeforest$wgDefaultSkin = 'ldstech';
21:39.55tdeforestthis is set in LocalSettings.php
21:40.13tccastaldoAhah!
21:40.17jdavid26Ah yes. Just found that.
21:40.24tdeforest:)
21:40.43tdeforestand now i will go run on the treadmill
21:40.46tdeforest:)
21:40.56tccastaldoWow!
21:41.01tccastaldoMagical transformation!
21:41.14tccastaldoHow about you, jdavid26?
21:41.57jdavid26Yep. Looks great. :)
21:42.03jdavid26Thanks
21:43.24tccastaldoK.  I'll go add that to the README.  Although I wonder if there's a way to set it through the setup script...
21:59.33tccastaldo...doesn't look like it.  I'll go make the change.
21:59.35jdavid26tccastaldo, not sure if this is the correct way to do it… but I changed /ldstech/wiki/config/index.php on line 1861 from
21:59.36jdavid26<PROTECTED>
21:59.36jdavid26to
21:59.36jdavid26<PROTECTED>
21:59.36jdavid26and it sets the default skin successfully without a need to edit the file manually.
21:59.56tccastaldoYes, that's the way I did it, too.
22:00.28tccastaldoActually, I didn't do it that way; I changed the line in LocalSettings.php.
22:00.56tccastaldoBut either way, you're editing a file, right?
22:02.00jdavid26the line in /ldstech/wiki/config/index.php is what produces LocalSettings.php… so if we change that and commit it to trunk, then it should remove a step, making it easier for developers.
22:02.16tccastaldoAh.
22:02.21tccastaldoMuch better.
22:02.46tccastaldoAs a matter of fact, you should be able to commit that change yourself.
22:04.02jdavid26Ok. Do you think it's a good idea to make note of this in the README for those who have downloaded the trunk and gone through the README already?
22:05.25tccastaldoIt's a good idea to add a note in the README, saying something like "make sure you have SwgDefaultSkin='ldstech'" at the end of the MediaWiki section.
22:07.32tccastaldoI'll go add that note if you can check in the edit to /ldstech/wiki/config/index.php.
22:08.01jdavid26ok, sounds good. Thanks guys.
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22:08.23tccastaldoThank you!
22:23.47jdavid26That is done. But, should I have created a ticket in Jira for tracking, or just commit the change?
22:24.24tccastaldoNo, just commit the change, since it's not really an issue IMO.
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22:27.55TimRikerchecked in an initial forum sql dump. it's large.
22:28.04TimRikerughs at vBulletin
22:32.04tdeforestcarmony, i should've introduced myself earlier. i am the interaction designer for LDSTech. i've been with ldstech for a little over a year.
22:36.23tccastaldoTimRiker, you did ws on the README while I was working on it!  Now it's in conflict state!
22:40.13tccastaldo</rant>
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22:44.06tdeforesttccastaldo, what's ws?
22:44.21tccastaldo<PROTECTED>
22:44.24tccastaldo:D
22:44.29tdeforestah
22:44.37tdeforestconflicts are easy to fix
22:44.41tccastaldoTrue.
22:45.08tdeforestcopy your changes to another file, accept all their changes, reinsert your updates :)
22:45.27tccastaldoI've already done it; about to commit.
22:45.36tdeforest:)
22:53.39tccastaldoforgives TimRiker and thanks him for his proofing
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23:16.18carmonytdeforest: nice to meet you :) I will say, I like the look and feel of the LDS Tech website
23:17.09tdeforestthank you! although, i inherited most of it so i can't full credit :)
23:19.54carmony:)
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23:50.46TimRikerroadblock after road block. headed back to slc tonight. see ya tomorrow.

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