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02:48.49TimRikerXoomSwarm is dog slow
02:54.49TimRikerXoompp[[o];
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09:53.58Jazzee8845hello all
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15:00.50ekeating~meetstart <LDSTech Dev Scrum>
15:00.50infobot********** Start of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.04.20 15:00:50 **********
15:00.56ekeatinggood morning all
15:01.01tdeforesthowdy
15:01.04scgallafentmoin
15:01.06ekeatingmy laptop is a little slow today
15:01.31Jazzee8845hello
15:01.47ekeatingwhile it's getting warmed up, who is onboard this morninf?
15:02.09tdeforesthere
15:02.18JoshBanghere
15:02.26Jazzee8845here
15:02.45ekeatingokay let's get started with an easy one (I think)
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15:03.07ekeatinghttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-623   Josh Bangerter
15:03.08fullmercb2nd time is the charm
15:03.28ekeatingthis seems to be a quick fis and then we can close it and 2.6.2
15:03.45ekeatingwelcome back fullmercb
15:03.49scgallafentI closed it a few minutes ago. Worked with JoshBang yesterday.
15:04.09ekeatingthank you.  can I close 2.6.2?
15:04.36scgallafentno.
15:04.49scgallafentThere is a new item I have in my report.
15:04.56ekeating:(
15:05.25ekeatingI see there is still https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-594   Alan Smootar
15:09.22ekeatingany idea on the status of that ticket?
15:09.22tdeforestperhaps this needs to be moved to another release . timriker does not currently have access to the server
15:09.22scgallafentsmootar marked it as resolved. We need to find out why he did that.
15:09.22ekeatingfullmercb can you follow up on that?
15:09.22fullmercbyep
15:09.22ekeatingthanks
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15:38.55ekeatingTimRiker - infobot seems to be down
15:39.15ekeatingwhile you're here, anything to report
15:39.20tdeforest~welcome infobot
15:39.20infobotHowdy, infobot!
15:39.53ekeating~meetend <LDSTech Dev Scrum>
15:39.54infobot********** End of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.04.20 15:39:54 **********
15:40.01ekeatinghooray
15:40.04TimRikernope. with swarm so slow, not done much testing on the joomla/swarm integration. should be working in cdev but swarm is slow.
15:40.15scgallafentsmootar: Found it https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-91
15:40.29smootarAdding comment now.
15:41.06Jazzee8845i found someting that could of kick started it :(
15:41.17Jazzee8845~stupid infobot
15:41.25TimRiker~lart Jazzee8845
15:41.25infobotdrops a truckload of VAXen on Jazzee8845
15:41.35scgallafentOuch.
15:41.46scgallafentI just noticed another Omniture item in the backlog and linked it to the one in v2.6.3.
15:42.51TimRikermy home dsl connection continues to be under attack. I think I'm just a pawn in a larger game. I think the target is china and the real source is someplace in the us.
15:45.19ekeatingJust tried to release 2.6.2 and got the message "Connect JIRA to Bamboo" hmmm sounds Chinese to me
15:45.33ekeatingHow do I go about connecting to bamboo?
15:45.58TimRikerno idea
15:46.21scgallafentI just accidentally released it for you. How did you try to release it?
15:46.23ekeatingokay then how do i RELEASE A VERSION?
15:46.39TimRikerany word from dlhace on cdev jira?
15:46.39scgallafentJust a minute. Let me undo.
15:46.53TimRikerlooks down to me. https://cdev.lds.org/jira/
15:47.14ekeatingI went to the version and click the tag "release"
15:47.48scgallafentekeating: Which page are you on?
15:48.17TimRiker<PROTECTED>
15:48.26ekeatinghttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH/fixforversion/10781
15:48.36TimRikerthat would explain why swarm is down.
15:48.58scgallafentHmmm. Well ain't that pretty.
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15:49.24ekeatingI agree with TimRiker.  It's a conspiracy
15:49.37scgallafentGo back to the project and go to the Agile board.
15:50.03scgallafentClick the version on the left and then hover over it.
15:50.12scgallafentClick on the gear and choose "Release."
15:50.13scgallafentBRB
15:52.21scgallafentis back
15:53.13smootarekeating or fullmercb, did David H. get invited to our morning meeting?  He is over infrastructure and should be invited.
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15:54.43ekeatingokay, I'm hovering but see no gear
15:55.05scgallafentDid you click on the release so that it is selected?
15:55.21scgallafentIf selected, it has a pale yellow/buff background.
15:56.32smootarJust talked with dlhace on communicator and he is looking into the cdev jira being down.
15:57.20ekeatingI went to the wrong agile area.  I just click the agile label on the left.  I should have gone to the agile tag on top and then the planning board.
15:57.23smootarI have asked dlhace to join irc to provide progress on the jira server.
15:57.40scgallafentLooks like you got it.
15:57.41ekeatingdid that and then released 2.6.2
15:58.00smootar:)
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15:58.18smootarmoin dlhace
15:58.23ekeatingIf II don't get better at this we'll have to leave versions open forever.....
15:58.50ekeating:)
15:58.55dlhacemorning
15:59.41smootarPlease provide updates on the cdev jira server.
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16:01.43scgallafentJoshBang, did you test https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-636? I haven't fixed that one! I think I resolved the wrong issue.
16:02.00JoshBangYeah I tested it
16:02.05JoshBangit worked
16:02.14scgallafentOK. Someone else must have fixed it.
16:02.18JoshBangIt says who made the changes
16:02.46ekeatingI just noticed that if I go down the infobot tree on the right there is an option to kick.  Would that have restart infobot?
16:02.46scgallafentJust resolved the one I meant to resolve
16:02.57scgallafentNo. That kicks infobot off the channel.
16:03.05scgallafentIt shouldn't allow you to kick anyone.
16:03.20ekeatingoops probably shouldn't do that then
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16:23.33smootardlhace, I'm now getting a 404 error on https://cdev.lds.org/jira/
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16:24.41dlhacethe host is now up
16:30.48dlhaceit looks like the database is not up for jira
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16:37.20smootarnods at dlhace
16:38.53dlhaceanyone know  how to start postgres on the server? I don't want to make a mistake and initialize a database
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16:40.43scgallafentdlhace: Not me. :(
16:49.19tdeforestJoshBang, lonely over there without elder rogers?
16:49.38JoshBangyup :(
16:49.44JoshBangBut he will be back on monday
16:49.49JoshBang:)
16:50.03tdeforestwith a tan
16:50.09JoshBangyeah no kidding
16:50.14JoshBang... or a bullet wound
16:50.20JoshBangmexico is sketchy right now
16:50.29tdeforestor that. maybe both
16:50.36JoshBangthey shut down mazetlan
16:50.39JoshBangprobably both
16:50.42tdeforestis mexico ever not sketchy?
16:50.45tdeforestoh
16:50.54tdeforestthat is beyond the normal sketchy
16:50.59JoshBangyup haha
16:51.12JoshBangBut he got two days in Kabo instead of just the one
16:51.27JoshBangAnd kabo is 1000 times better than Mazetlan
16:53.33tdeforesti wouldn't know. i'm not as well travelled
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16:55.57dlhacewho installed jira
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16:57.39scgallafentdlhace: I'm not sure if JIRA was installed by TimRiker or if it predates him.
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16:58.57scgallafentAnd there's TimRiker. dlhace is wondering who installed cdev jira.
17:00.32TimRikerno idea. but  I found that postgresql does NOT start on machine boot. I fixed that, started it, and I'm trying to get jira started now.
17:02.09dlhaceok it is up
17:02.48smootarthanks dlhace
17:03.06smootar& TimRiker
17:03.34TimRikerdlhace, I restarted postgresql and jira. is that all you did? or was there some other cleanup required?
17:05.16dlhaceyes
17:05.32dlhaceI don't know why postgres didn't start
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17:05.57dlhacebut it is in the wron order, it is set for a startup of priority 98 vs jira of 01
17:06.55TimRikerdlhace, postgres was _not_ set to autostart. I just changed that.
17:07.03dlhaceoh ok
17:07.13dlhacelet me change their start order
17:07.16TimRikerk
17:09.22dlhacelooks like you already set postgres to 01,
17:09.40dlhaceI will set jira to a little bit later to give the database time to start
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17:22.39TimRikerdlhace, I just did a chkconfig -a  to enable it. used whatever was there.
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17:55.25smootarI think Jira was installed by Howard O's team originally.
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18:13.32TimRikerI hate developing on cdev instead of locally. :(
18:14.51tdeforestagrees. And now he is going to lunch
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19:03.08jdavid26Is there an article on the wiki that addresses the https issue on localhost?
19:03.29scgallafentI don't think so.
19:04.13jdavid26I thought TimRiker documented something, but I don't see it.
19:04.42TimRikerthere's some info in the readme's
19:05.10scgallafentI don't know if we updated anything when we were at the conference, but we did some work then.
19:05.42scgallafentYou're on Mac, right?
19:05.48jdavid26right
19:06.26scgallafentI'm not sure how much that complicates things. I think the readme instructions that would relate to that are geared for Windows.
19:07.04jdavid26I enabled ssl for localhost but I've created a ldstech.dev vhost since then.
19:07.39scgallafentIt may just be a matter of changing the SSL config to answer ldstech.dev instead of localhost.
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19:59.17TimRikerI use localhost.lds.org for most testing. habit from using the wamulator and hoping to get cookies set for lds.org
20:00.10TimRikerin theory should work wherever ssl answers. depends on your vhost setting of course, and your ssl cert will want to match.
20:00.34TimRikerperhaps you want to gen your cert for *.dev and then it can be used for other virtual hosts?
20:00.52TimRikerhttps://cdev.lds.org/swarm/projects/SAMPLE
20:01.13TimRikerhttps://cdev.lds.org/swarm/projects/SAMPLE/TimRikerSpecialBuild
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20:13.50jdavid26Referring to LDSTECH-637, I'm unable to recreate the issue. Or I don't understand it. Anyone know how to recreate it?
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20:14.58scgallafentHold on ... on the phone.
20:17.02JM_Need some help with video capture for a conference broadcast.  any comments on the software?
20:21.06smootarJM_ came and went pretty quickly.
20:30.32scgallafentjdavid26, I'm back.
20:31.39jdavid26Hi scgallafent
20:32.07scgallafentHi. Are you ready for instructions on how to find the issue?
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20:33.21jdavid26ready
20:36.12scgallafentSorry -- looked away for a minute or two...
20:36.21scgallafentLog in as jadmin to the Joomla site.
20:37.08scgallafentOnce you're logged in, you may see an "Admin" link in the top menu.
20:37.33scgallafentIf you don't see the admin link, you can get to the Joomla admin page by going to .../administrator/.
20:37.36jdavid26Ok I've done that
20:37.38scgallafentOn my machine, it is https://ldstech.local/joomla/administrator/
20:37.50scgallafentLog in there as jadmin.
20:38.03scgallafentThen choose Components -> Talent Pool from the menu.
20:38.25scgallafentClick on the username for a user.
20:38.42scgallafentYou will see an HTML table at the bottom with a list of all of the projects the user is a member of.
20:39.21scgallafentIf you look at the source for that table, odd numbered rows (1,3,5,etc) have a style of "tpodd".
20:39.35scgallafentThe style is a class.
20:39.53scgallafentThere is one .css file that defined a tpodd class, but it isn't included in the project.
20:40.16scgallafentRather than add that file to the project (and everything else contained in it), it probably makes more sense to add the class to the stylesheets that are already being used.
20:42.52jdavid26ok
20:43.44jdavid26just to be clear, this table is plainly styled with thick borders, right?
20:44.07scgallafentYes.
20:44.34scgallafentI don't have a problem with additional styling if you want to do that, although you may want to bounce any ideas past tdeforest.
20:45.09scgallafentThat is an administrative page, so it doesn't need to be as "pretty" as everything else.
20:48.17jdavid26haha yeah. I agree, but I wanted to make sure it looks correct on my computer.
20:51.21jdavid26thanks scgallafent
20:51.30scgallafentYou're welcome. Thanks for your help.
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21:02.34scgallafenttomjohnson: When you do wiki edits like the one you just reverted, do you just sit there and wonder "what were they thinking?"
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21:19.04tomjohnsonscgallafent, yes. he inserted a link to that points to this picture: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/dsc01499o.jpg/
21:19.23scgallafentI saw that. Speechless, I am.
21:19.28tomjohnsonI'm not really sure why he decided to do that. I could follow up and ask him, but alas, too much effort.
22:00.17jdavid26TimRiker, have you made joomla administrator styling updates?
22:16.56tdeforesti just created a test article on my local machine. the article id is 42. i have a good feeling about this
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22:40.42tdeforesttomjohnson, i just marked all of the blog layout issues as resolved with an explanation of how i resolved it. please test in production and let me know if this is working for you.
22:41.27tomjohnsontdeforest Sweet! Thanks for figuring this out. I did just test it and it seems to be working great.
22:41.47tdeforestw00t!
22:42.01tdeforestquick, somebody give me some karma
22:42.45tdeforesttomjohnson, i detailed a caveat in https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-558
22:42.55tdeforestsee the last comment and let me know whether it makes sense
22:43.29tomjohnsongot it. thanks.
22:44.12tdeforestsweet
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23:16.07tdeforesthow ya doing TimRiker
23:16.39TimRikerfine fine. hacking on swarm.
23:18.36tdeforestglad to hear that you're fine and hacking on swarmÂ…speaking of which, i'm liking more and more the idea of moving toward tools that are openly available. this is a key concept for enabling community engagement
23:20.56TimRikernods
23:23.29tdeforestTimRiker,  i'm reviewing wireframing apps. are you familiar or know of any open-source wireframing tools? my favorites right now are pen and paper :) but those aren't as easy to share and collaborate on.
23:24.01TimRikeropenoffice draw? :)
23:25.17TimRikergotta run. see the swarm url changes? just trying to clean it up so we can support it.
23:25.20TimRikercya
23:26.26tdeforestnice urls :) that makes me happy

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