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| 15:00.48 | ekeating | ~meetstart <LDSTech Dev Scrum> |
| 15:00.49 | infobot | ********** Start of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.04.30 15:00:49 ********** |
| 15:00.56 | smootar | moin |
| 15:01.00 | ekeating | Good Morning |
| 15:01.08 | ekeating | Who's made it through the weekend and is here today? |
| 15:01.26 | tdeforest | made it |
| 15:01.32 | zakzakattack | Here |
| 15:01.34 | cpitt | present |
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| 15:02.35 | ekeating | Great. I'm sure the rest will be wandering in soon. |
| 15:02.39 | ekeating | Fullmercb won't be with us today but sent the following report |
| 15:02.39 | ekeating | Not much to report except meetings with ICS solution managers are going well and will bring us new qa and csm opps. (possibly new project work too) |
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| 15:03.10 | ekeating | As you report please include when you think the issues will be complete |
| 15:03.10 | ekeating | We want to try and set a release date for 2.6.3 |
| 15:04.09 | ekeating | Let's start with cpitt. Any staus update on |
| 15:04.11 | ekeating | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-701 |
| 15:04.55 | cpitt | I'm pretty sure it's all done, it counts all the words in blog posts and reports them accordingly |
| 15:05.34 | cpitt | the only question I had that I was going to ask before I closed it was are blog posts the only thing we're counting? |
| 15:06.00 | cpitt | if so it's done |
| 15:06.08 | TimRiker | ticket mentions wiki too. |
| 15:06.38 | cpitt | if that's the case i need to incorporate the wiki into and then it will be done |
| 15:06.45 | TimRiker | I suggest we edit this one to mention blog only, then close it. open another for just the wiki. |
| 15:07.39 | ekeating | Would that stay in 2.6.3 or the next release |
| 15:07.55 | cpitt | The reporting section states "Wrote 'X' words since blog project began middle of this year." so I wasn't sure |
| 15:08.01 | TimRiker | I think we ought to test and release what we have. |
| 15:08.17 | tdeforest | agrees with TimRiker |
| 15:08.47 | ekeating | sounds good to me...I like releases :-) |
| 15:09.46 | ekeating | We can move the new one to the 2.6 backlog and include it in the new sprint |
| 15:10.43 | TimRiker | nods |
| 15:11.00 | ekeating | the remaining open issues are assigned to scgallafent |
| 15:11.09 | ekeating | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-531 |
| 15:11.09 | ekeating | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-688 |
| 15:11.09 | ekeating | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-712 |
| 15:11.23 | ekeating | Anyone have any info on these? |
| 15:11.24 | TimRiker | I closed 688 |
| 15:11.46 | TimRiker | oh, sry wrong issue... |
| 15:12.09 | smootar | Stepping away to let in scgallafent... |
| 15:12.27 | TimRiker | I closed 229 which was scgallafent but is resolved with the google groups integration. |
| 15:12.40 | ekeating | Thanks TimRiker |
| 15:12.55 | ekeating | I'll take it off my list |
| 15:13.28 | TimRiker | 688 is marked closed. scgallafent split it up into different issues. |
| 15:13.42 | ekeating | zakzakattack: Need any help on the resolved issues? |
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| 15:14.13 | zakzakattack | um.... not for now... i might have some questions later on but for now i dont |
| 15:14.47 | ekeating | When do you think they'll be closed? |
| 15:14.59 | TimRiker | I don't see omniture loading for forum or wiki. |
| 15:16.22 | zakzakattack | I closed 2 on friday the rest i have no Idea what to do on them like LDSTECH-675,217,703 |
| 15:16.23 | TimRiker | moved https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-715 to 2.6.3. probably want to bump it out, but it was not assigned a release. |
| 15:18.01 | TimRiker | moved the other omniture tickets in too. need to decide which to bump. perhaps all of them. |
| 15:20.20 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-620 closed as a dupe of 609 |
| 15:22.08 | ekeating | When scgallafent gets on lets talk about the omniture issues and see what we want to do with them |
| 15:22.09 | TimRiker | overview: https://tech.lds.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?jqlQuery=fixVersion+%3D+%222.6.3%22+AND+project+%3D+LDSTECH |
| 15:22.44 | tdeforest | TimRiker, link doesn't work |
| 15:23.02 | TimRiker | hmm |
| 15:23.23 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&mode=hide&jqlQuery=fixVersion+%3D+%222.6.3%22+AND+project+%3D+LDSTECH ? |
| 15:25.54 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-284 is resolved, moved to 2.6.3 |
| 15:27.12 | cpitt | quick question about https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-541 is 60 chars acceptable with everyone.... if so we can mark it as resolved |
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| 15:28.11 | TimRiker | cpitt, I'm good. |
| 15:28.28 | ekeating | seems reasonable to me. Anyone else have a thought |
| 15:29.02 | tdeforest | cpitt, iz good |
| 15:29.20 | cpitt | well if there is no objections marking it as resolved |
| 15:29.21 | ekeating | Okay, cpitt go ahead and resolve it. Thanks |
| 15:30.02 | cpitt | should I assign it to zakzakattack ? |
| 15:30.10 | ekeating | yes |
| 15:30.23 | zakzakattack | ok cool |
| 15:31.07 | ekeating | looks like scgallafent won't be with us today so are there any other items you want to discuss? |
| 15:31.45 | ekeating | TimRiker can you get with him and discuss the omniture issues? |
| 15:32.12 | TimRiker | he's just getting plugged in here. we'll talk sometime today. |
| 15:32.23 | ekeating | We'll try to pin them down tomorrow. |
| 15:32.29 | TimRiker | He may be able to read the big screen between smootar and I |
| 15:32.52 | jdavid26 | How's https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-531 ? |
| 15:34.29 | tdeforest | jdavid26, i haven't heard but i know scgallafent is juggling several Omniture tasks at the moment. |
| 15:34.52 | tdeforest | johnsonth, do you know the answer to jdavid26 's question above? |
| 15:35.08 | johnsonth | scgallafent is working on that one. |
| 15:35.12 | johnsonth | the skin is totally finished. |
| 15:35.20 | johnsonth | it's just a matter of whether it integrates with the environment. |
| 15:35.23 | johnsonth | given all our customizations. |
| 15:35.31 | johnsonth | but it now works with 1.18. |
| 15:35.38 | jdavid26 | awesome |
| 15:35.42 | johnsonth | btw, the newsletter went out this weekend. If you missed it, here's the link: http://t.co/X5lTv4Ql |
| 15:35.42 | johnsonth | We should make it easier to sign up for this thing. |
| 15:36.14 | johnsonth | most feedback/comments is about Maps 3.0. |
| 15:36.28 | tdeforest | nods at johnsonth |
| 15:37.15 | johnsonth | Thanks for sending that out, tdeforest. |
| 15:37.32 | tdeforest | you're welcome! |
| 15:37.58 | ekeating | I would like to see the Issues screen sorted by key # when you first go in. |
| 15:37.58 | ekeating | Otherwise I have to sort it, find what I'm looking for, then do a back arrow |
| 15:37.59 | ekeating | which takes me to the unsorted list and another back arrow to get where I came from. |
| 15:37.59 | ekeating | Do I need to set that up as an issue? |
| 15:38.46 | TimRiker | I don't understand... |
| 15:38.51 | tdeforest | ekeating, you might be able to save that as a filter or predefined query |
| 15:39.10 | ekeating | It doesn't matter much except on the closed issues when trying to see what's closed |
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| 15:40.28 | ekeating | TimRiker go to https://tech.lds.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+LDSTECH+AND+fixVersion+%3D+%222.6.3%22+AND+status+%3D+Closed+ORDER+BY+priority+DESC&mode=hide |
| 15:40.57 | TimRiker | ok. then? |
| 15:41.13 | ekeating | notice the key (issue) numbers are not sorted so to find a particular issue I first sort them |
| 15:41.33 | ekeating | then when I hit the back arrow it takes me to the unsorted list again |
| 15:41.36 | TimRiker | the link you posted DOES sort them. |
| 15:41.49 | ekeating | I have to hit it one more time to get where I came from |
| 15:41.54 | TimRiker | it just sorts by priority. if that's not what you want, then don't sort by that. :) |
| 15:42.14 | TimRiker | .... ORDER+BY+priority+DESC .... |
| 15:43.11 | ekeating | How do I filter it to sort by number? |
| 15:43.39 | ekeating | I'll work on it, thanks |
| 15:43.44 | ekeating | I have another small quirk that irritates me every time I see it. I would change it if I knew how. |
| 15:43.44 | ekeating | Under Security Level: It states |
| 15:43.44 | ekeating | Public (Access is granted to everyone, if the project is set to anonymous access includes the outside would.) |
| 15:43.44 | ekeating | would??? |
| 15:44.10 | ekeating | for now we'll close this meeting thank you everyone |
| 15:44.14 | smootar | wonders if TimRiker upgraded the LDSTech version of php. |
| 15:44.26 | TimRiker | smootar, nope |
| 15:44.31 | smootar | nods |
| 15:44.31 | ekeating | ~meetend <LDSTech Dev Scrum> |
| 15:44.31 | infobot | ********** End of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.04.30 15:44:31 ********** |
| 15:44.59 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+LDSTECH+AND+fixVersion+%3D+%222.6.3%22+AND+status+%3D+Closed&mode=hide |
| 15:44.59 | ekeating | BTW our next scrum meeting will be Wed. |
| 15:45.20 | TimRiker | ekeating, then save that as a filter if you want it later. |
| 15:46.04 | ekeating | Thanks Tim |
| 15:46.28 | TimRiker | some spaces are redundant... https://tech.lds.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator!executeAdvanced.jspa?jqlQuery=project%3DLDSTECH+AND+fixVersion%3D%222.6.3%22+AND+status%3DClosed&runQuery=true&clear=true |
| 15:46.51 | TimRiker | well, perhaps not redundant. unnecessary |
| 15:47.10 | ekeating | That works best for me, especially on closed issues |
| 15:47.21 | TimRiker | kewel |
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| 16:44.47 | eldergunn | hi someone asked me on sunday, a member of the stake presidency infact and we also got an e-mail about it on tech shared does anyone survey what tools on lds.org people use the most because their words was "there is a lot that none uses" so just a thought |
| 16:45.47 | eldergunn | and do the keep a track on how many people use other related lds sites eg mormon channel? |
| 16:46.55 | eldergunn | one last question as well i know its family indexing but still techy why on mobile apps dont your indexing class towards your stake numbers do anyone know? |
| 16:59.53 | tdeforest | eldergunn, i peeked at the source code on the calendar app. it appears they're using Omniture to collect site traffic |
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| 17:09.10 | Jazzee8845 | hello all |
| 17:13.37 | tdeforest | waves |
| 17:24.46 | eldergunn | thanks tdeforrest |
| 17:43.02 | tdeforest | sure |
| 17:49.33 | tdeforest | TimRiker, the following tickets are assigned to you. are you really the one to work on these or should they be assigned to PK: https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-396 |
| 17:49.33 | tdeforest | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-397 |
| 17:49.33 | tdeforest | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-398 |
| 17:49.33 | tdeforest | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-399 |
| 17:50.13 | tdeforest | same with 401 and 402 |
| 18:01.33 | tdeforest | scgallafent, TimRiker smootar, cpitt, fullmercb , i'm headed to the cafeteria to warm up my lunch. care to join? |
| 18:01.52 | scgallafent | thinks that sounds like a great idea |
| 18:02.08 | TimRiker | I'm hungry. cpitt? |
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| 19:13.20 | eldergunn | does anyone know how do download vso image resize while on sophos all i get is blocked website have been asked to download it to shrink images for guides but global services said when i phoned dont worry about sizes of image you have access to filesend |
| 19:24.37 | TimRiker | broke tech |
| 19:27.43 | smootar | :[ |
| 19:28.36 | TimRiker | and we're back... |
| 19:33.22 | TimRiker | er, mostly. |
| 19:42.16 | TimRiker | php upgrade broke memcached as sles 10.3 does not have a working memcached |
| 19:42.27 | TimRiker | not sure what that breaks... |
| 19:42.48 | TimRiker | well, php "downgrade" I suppose |
| 19:56.35 | tdeforest | TimRiker, i'm going to put a note on the homepage about the forum being down. |
| 20:02.23 | johnsonth | tdeforest, A lot of people who should have received the newsletter -- that is, project leads of LDSTech community projects -- didn't receive it. |
| 20:02.45 | johnsonth | Do you know who the list included? I thought it included everyone who has the right Subscriptions check boxes selected on their LDS Account. |
| 20:02.52 | tdeforest | hmmm... |
| 20:02.52 | johnsonth | As well as anyone who has ever logged into LDSTech before. |
| 20:03.00 | johnsonth | Which would include project leads. |
| 20:03.13 | tdeforest | the list does not automatically include project leads |
| 20:03.50 | tdeforest | it _does_ (or should) include those that have the appropriate box checked on their ldsaccount |
| 20:04.23 | tdeforest | have you identified people that have received it in the past and have not received it this time? |
| 20:05.31 | tdeforest | in the past we have not exported our LDSTech email list for use with the newsletter |
| 20:06.43 | tdeforest | i don't know if the agreement includes privileges for that. |
| 20:06.59 | TimRiker | forums were broken without php-memcache. |
| 20:07.15 | johnsonth | I checked my wife's email account just now. She has the right subscription check boxes selected, but she did not receive the e-mail. |
| 20:07.20 | TimRiker | forums are back. |
| 20:08.03 | TimRiker | I don't know for sure who it includes and who it does not. |
| 20:09.51 | tdeforest | johnsonth, has your wife opted-out of the email? |
| 20:09.57 | johnsonth | no |
| 20:10.17 | johnsonth | do you mean opted out of receiving emails through the joomla project interface? |
| 20:10.26 | tdeforest | no |
| 20:10.31 | TimRiker | k. is anything on the main site broken now? |
| 20:10.42 | tdeforest | i mean clicking on 'unsubscribe' on a previous email |
| 20:11.06 | johnsonth | tdeforest, I don't think she ever clicked unbuscribe. |
| 20:11.19 | TimRiker | ~spell unbuscribe |
| 20:11.24 | tdeforest | haha |
| 20:11.27 | johnsonth | tdeforest, do you know how many people the newsletter went out to? |
| 20:11.35 | tdeforest | 90000+ |
| 20:12.19 | tdeforest | johnsonth, this sounds like it could be an issue. can you document the issue in an email and i'll follow up with kurt. |
| 20:12.32 | TimRiker | tdeforest, might want to remove the forum down post now. |
| 20:12.34 | johnsonth | sure |
| 20:12.43 | tdeforest | TimRiker, will do. thanks |
| 20:12.52 | johnsonth | our whole newsletter sign up process is cryptic and hard for people to understand, in my opinion. |
| 20:13.33 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/swarm/ is up. anyone want to create real test cases? |
| 20:13.45 | tdeforest | TimRiker, sweetness! |
| 20:13.59 | TimRiker | I added swarm and ldstech to swarm |
| 20:14.20 | tdeforest | johnsonth, do we have a newsletter sign up process? |
| 20:14.52 | johnsonth | We documented it in a post, and then I put the information on the wiki here: http://tech.lds.org/wiki/LDSTech_Newsletter |
| 20:15.10 | johnsonth | Can you link to this wiki page in the sidebar of the ldstech homepage? |
| 20:15.20 | tdeforest | johnsonth, hey look, i can sign up for our newsletter. but i already get it at two of my email addresses so I don't think i'll sign up :) |
| 20:15.43 | tdeforest | johnsonth, the link to the sign up form is on the homepage already |
| 20:15.44 | johnsonth | Also, those links under "Community" in the sidebar need to be adjusted. Do you know where those are stored? |
| 20:15.55 | tdeforest | johnsonth, in a module |
| 20:16.01 | johnsonth | where? |
| 20:16.19 | tdeforest | in the joomla administration panel |
| 20:17.00 | johnsonth | "the link to the sign up form is on the homepage already" -- I don't see this, even though I've looked three times. Am I just blind? |
| 20:17.18 | tdeforest | it's labeled 'email' |
| 20:17.29 | tdeforest | is that not it? |
| 20:17.44 | TimRiker | what homepage? |
| 20:17.50 | johnsonth | that's not it. that gives you an email every time a new post is added to the site. |
| 20:17.59 | johnsonth | it's Feedburner's email method of subscribed to a feed. |
| 20:18.24 | tdeforest | we need to sort out our mailing list management before we add a link to it to the homepage |
| 20:18.25 | johnsonth | so you see, it's hard for people to know how to sign up for this. |
| 20:18.31 | TimRiker | http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailverify?uri=ldstech gives me a 404 |
| 20:19.08 | johnsonth | The feedburner link works for me. |
| 20:19.16 | tdeforest | johnsonth, works for me too |
| 20:19.30 | TimRiker | same link I just posted? |
| 20:19.40 | johnsonth | re mailing list management, that's fine. But I think we need to provide some information about how people can currently sign up for the newsletter right now. |
| 20:19.45 | tdeforest | yes |
| 20:19.57 | johnsonth | yes, TimRiker. |
| 20:20.09 | TimRiker | wierd. I get a 404. even if I try reloading |
| 20:20.17 | tdeforest | ? |
| 20:20.20 | tdeforest | strage |
| 20:20.28 | tdeforest | s/strage/strange/ |
| 20:20.33 | TimRiker | ~spell strage |
| 20:20.48 | tdeforest | st rage, nice! |
| 20:20.59 | tdeforest | The saint of postal workers |
| 20:23.11 | johnsonth | tdeforest, back to updating the "Community" section of links in the sidebar, do you know where this is done in the joomla admin interface? |
| 20:23.47 | johnsonth | I looked in Extensions > Module Manager but didn't see it. |
| 20:24.17 | johnsonth | Some of the links in that menu are really old -- e.g., Employee Spotlight. |
| 20:25.57 | tdeforest | johnsonth, hmmm
.i guess it is a menu and not a module |
| 20:29.53 | tdeforest | johnsonth, i have kurt olsen on the phone. can you send me your wife's email address |
| 20:34.09 | johnsonth | tdeforest, her ldsaccount is shannonj11. i'm on the phone right now but can respond more later. |
| 20:38.05 | tdeforest | johnsonth, it looks like your email address is listed as her email address |
| 20:38.23 | tdeforest | according to ldsaccount info |
| 20:40.29 | johnsonth | interesting. |
| 20:40.38 | johnsonth | David Sierakowski says he didn't receive the newsletter either. |
| 20:40.57 | tdeforest | do you have his email address and ldsaccount |
| 20:44.28 | johnsonth | one sec. phone call is over. |
| 20:45.57 | tdeforest | if you email matt hyer, kurt olsen and me his ldsaccount and email address, we can check for his account. be sure to have Elder Sierakowski verify that he has the appropriate box checked on his ldsaccount |
| 20:47.58 | johnsonth | tdeforest, I pinged him just now to ask this info. For some reason I couldn't find his name in Joomla. |
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| 21:18.22 | cpitt | oops i'm not done I forgot I have to add the db name and what not to the parameters options |
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| 21:36.04 | scgallafent | cpitt, there are some values attached to the value of forum posts and blog words in the report view page. Where do those come from? We should probably document the reasoning behind those numbers in the code. |
| 21:40.43 | TimRiker | reviews old jira tickets and rolls some over in to 2.6.3 |
| 21:41.25 | TimRiker | neato. jira went down |
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| 21:42.42 | tdeforest | TimRiker, now it's back |
| 21:42.57 | TimRiker | sure enough. thx |
| 21:54.09 | cpitt | scgallafent, the numbers were there already, don't know where they came from |
| 21:54.36 | scgallafent | OK. I was looking at the page itself and some of that is documented in the HTML content. |
| 21:57.54 | cpitt | scgallafent, it should all be good to go now |
| 21:58.15 | scgallafent | OK. I'm testing now. I ran into one issue that I added to JIRA. |
| 21:58.52 | scgallafent | cpitt, new item is https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-718 |
| 22:00.49 | scgallafent | tdeforest, https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-719 is probably yours. |
| 22:03.17 | cpitt | That's odd that your getting that on LDSTECH-719 works fine on ff11 on ubuntu |
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| 22:11.08 | scgallafent | cpitt, JavaScript was disabled. That accounts for the graceful degration on the accordion functionality. |
| 22:11.20 | cpitt | ahh I see |
| 22:11.33 | scgallafent | tdeforest, I'm not sure if you want to fix the floats based on that or leave them as-is. |
| 22:13.28 | tdeforest | scgallafent, does the float issue only occur with JS turned off? |
| 22:13.39 | scgallafent | Checking .... |
| 22:13.49 | scgallafent | Yes. |
| 22:13.55 | tdeforest | ok |
| 22:14.21 | tdeforest | i like to be bulletproof so i'll keep the ticket but i won't worry about it for this release |
| 22:15.59 | scgallafent | tdeforest, I checked in Chrome and get the same float errors. I'll add a comment and move it to the backlog. |
| 22:16.13 | scgallafent | Unless you've already moved it. :) |
| 22:16.33 | tdeforest | hmmm
maybe it does need to be fixed in this version. |
| 22:17.03 | scgallafent | I think moving it to the backlog is OK. |
| 22:17.14 | scgallafent | It only occurs if JavaScript is disabled. |
| 22:17.47 | tdeforest | oh ok |
| 22:17.55 | tdeforest | gracias! |
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| 22:20.54 | tdeforest | according to my email inbox, this is going to be our biggest release ever :) |
| 22:22.10 | TimRiker | scgallafent, "fixed" https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-718 by removing security like in production. |
| 22:22.27 | scgallafent | I saw that. You're all over "fixes" and "upgrades" today. :) |
| 22:24.38 | scgallafent | TimRiker, on https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-544, right now I get SOAP warnings when the WSDL doesn't load. Is there a JIRA item to provide a friendlier warning? Do we care on this page if the warning isn't friendly? |
| 22:25.46 | TimRiker | if jiraBase is empty, there are no warnings, right? that's enough for me. |
| 22:27.10 | scgallafent | If jiraBase is empty, there are no warnings. If the WSDL fails to load for some reason, you get a series of SoapClient warnings. I'd say they're trivial at best since this is an internal page. |
| 22:28.01 | TimRiker | fine with me |
| 22:35.21 | cpitt | Should I mark 717 resolved then, and pass it on to ? scgallafent? |
| 22:35.58 | scgallafent | cpitt, yes. Go ahead and pass it on to me and I'll finish testing. |
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| 22:42.14 | scgallafent | tdeforest, can you look at https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-398 and close if it is OK? |
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| 22:43.28 | tdeforest | scgallafent, looking... |
| 22:44.44 | tdeforest |
and closed |
| 22:45.07 | scgallafent | Thank you. |
| 22:47.30 | tdeforest | you're welcome :) |
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