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00:46.16brent_can someone help me find any documentation on compiling the gospel library app for ios?
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14:40.41tdeforestcpitt, have you upgraded your local copy of the ldstech mediawiki?
14:40.53cpittyes
14:40.55tdeforesti'm having trouble after i ran svn up
14:41.10tdeforesti get this error
14:41.10tdeforestA database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading? See: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script
14:41.10tdeforestQuery: SELECT value,exptime FROM `objectcache` WHERE keyname = 'mediawiki:messages:en' LIMIT 1
14:41.10tdeforestFunction: SqlBagOStuff::get
14:41.10tdeforestError: 1146 Table 'mediawiki.objectcache' doesn't exist (localhost)
14:41.28tdeforesti ran the update.php script but i still get this error
14:42.16cpitthmm let me see if I did anything different I can't remember
14:42.52tdeforestin an effort to fix the problem, i dropped all the tables and imported the sql script but that didn't solve it
14:45.05cpitthmm looking at my bash logs it looks like I might have edited LocalSettings.php before running the update script
14:45.30tdeforestwhat part did you edit?
14:45.49cpittunfortunately I don't remember :P
14:45.57tdeforestaha
14:46.16tdeforestlooking at my localsettings.php everything looks fine
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14:48.31tdeforesti added a setting for $wgDBprefix after i imported the sql script since the tables had a new prefix
14:49.14tdeforestthis is the error i get when i run the update.php script
14:49.14tdeforestDB connection error: No such file or directory (localhost)
14:49.35tdeforestnot very helpful
14:50.55cpittdb name, user and pw are all defined correctly?
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14:54.39tdeforestyes
14:55.44tdeforesti just updated the $wgDBserver variable from 'localhost' to "localhost:/Applications/XAMPP/xamppfiles/var/mysql/mysql.sock" and the update.php script ran successfully
14:56.18cpitthmm, but still no luck?
14:56.20tdeforestthat seems to have worked
14:56.40tdeforestthanks
14:57.13cpittdoes everything else work with just localhost?
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14:59.16tdeforestthe homepage loads
14:59.19tdeforestfor the wiki
14:59.38tdeforestdo i need to add something to local settings for wam emulation?
15:00.07ekeating~meetstart <LDSTech Dev Scrum>
15:00.07infobot********** Start of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.06.08 15:00:07 **********
15:00.11ekeatinggood morning
15:00.14ekeatingWho's with us today?
15:00.19tdeforesthowdy
15:00.21ChadFYo
15:00.24cpittdunno Tim mentioned something about wam emulation, but since I don't have anything in the wiki I haven't tried it yet
15:00.26cpittmorning
15:00.50TurboldsI'm here.
15:00.52ekeatinglet's start with you tdeforest
15:00.53zakzakattackHi
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15:01.05tdeforest- SVN appears to work after last night's upgrade by Howard Vanfleet.
15:01.23tdeforesti need to follow up with jdavid26 on the tickets he was assigned for swarm
15:01.28smootarjoins
15:01.36ekeatingthat's great
15:01.53tdeforestwe set an appointment to review wireframes and requirements monday morning in lieu of this meeting.
15:02.15tdeforestmy third daughter turned 7 on wed
15:02.25ekeatingthat's right, there is no scrum on munday
15:02.33tdeforestthat is all for me
15:02.34ekeatingcongrats
15:02.47ekeatingthanks
15:02.51ekeatingcpitt>
15:02.54cpitt~ldstech 759 is nearing completion, hopefully today
15:02.54infobothttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-759 is nearing completion, hopefully today
15:02.59cpittthat is all
15:03.06tdeforestoh. and i updated my local instance of wiki but i need help with setting up wam emulation
15:03.12ekeatingwonderful
15:03.41ekeatingscgallafent, can you help tdeforest ?
15:03.54scgallafentYes. We can look at that later.
15:04.01tdeforestgracias
15:04.09ChadFwe had estimated 4d of work on 759 cpitt - is that about what it has taken?
15:04.36smootaryay cpitt
15:05.27cpitttoday is day 4 however it might take longer as some of the old reporting scripts my need to be rewritten to account for employment status though that may be outside the scope of this ticket
15:06.20ChadFI think we should tackle employment status later - I think we already have a jira for that
15:06.34Turboldsscgallafent, are you up for another call after scrum?
15:06.39scgallafentYes.
15:06.39ChadF~ldstech 760
15:06.39infobothttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-760
15:07.04cpittI wrote a cron that logs employment nightly
15:07.27smootarThanks cpitt
15:07.32smootarThis was very involved.
15:08.01smootarI think we should log another ticket for updating the other scripts.
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15:08.14ekeatingthanks cpitt
15:08.24ekeatingscgallafent, you're up
15:08.44scgallafentOK. I'm still typing in my other window, but here goes:
15:08.48scgallafentI finished LDSTECH-713, LDSTECH-714, and LDSTECH-609 yesterday. Those are all Omniture items related to Joomla.
15:08.49scgallafentIn the process, I decided I should make a minor change to the Omniture code in the wiki to keep the code consistent.
15:08.55scgallafentThat is https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-768.
15:09.14scgallafentI was just going to look and see if I stuck it in 2.7.
15:09.34ChadFyep
15:09.38scgallafentI've been looking at SWF extensions for the wiki.
15:09.53ChadFsmootar, 760 covers what you requested, doesn't it?
15:09.53scgallafentThe old SWF extension in the wiki was deprecated and MediaWiki recommended that it be removed.
15:09.58ChadF~ldstech 760
15:09.58infobothttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-760
15:10.18smootarlooking
15:10.24smootaryes.
15:10.53smootarNo need for another bug.
15:11.26smootar~ldstech 760 would be good to fix in the next sprint, but doesn't need to be done in this one.
15:11.26infobothttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-760 would be good to fix in the next sprint, but doesn't need to be done in this one.
15:12.18ekeatingshould we remove h
15:12.26ekeatingthe swf extension?
15:12.31scgallafentIt has already been removed.
15:12.34scgallafentOnce I get the replacement SWF working, we will probably need to deploy that change to the wiki.
15:12.34scgallafentThere is some functionality that was lost with the wiki upgrade/removing the deprecated extension that needs to be restored.
15:12.34scgallafentI hope to have that done today.
15:12.34scgallafentI started working on a ticket yesterday that I'll leave until I'm in the ROB next week -- it will be a little easier without the VPN in the way.
15:12.35scgallafentOnce I finish the wiki work, I'll pick another item off my list and keep moving along.
15:13.04ekeatingthanks
15:13.25ekeatingTimRiker, what are you working on?
15:14.14TimRikerunrelated stuff mostly. I've been working on the joomlaid / tsid, but I spent some of yesterday chasing servers
15:14.42TimRikerand build issues still. wam in cdev changed again. wam emulation on wiki is now somewhat more secure.
15:15.08TimRikerscheduler is using oes to start up again in cdev. phpstack and others should likely add support for that too
15:15.21TimRikernothing more to report :(
15:15.43TimRikergoing camping this weekend at burraston ponds by Mona. :)
15:15.46ekeatingsounds like your pretty busy.  thank you
15:16.27ekeatingTurbolds, i see that your going to talk with scgallafent after the scrum.  Anything else you want to cover?
15:16.34ChadFsounds cold TimRiker
15:16.55TimRikerhttps://maps.google.com/?q=Burraston+Ponds
15:17.03TurboldsStill working onSWARM-465, or maybe it's working on me!
15:17.20ekeating:)  know that feeling
15:17.53TurboldsThat's all.
15:18.20ekeatingIn a couple of weeks I'll be going up to girl's camp.  looking forward to that
15:18.31smootar:)
15:18.37ekeatingzakzakattack, anything to report?
15:18.39ChadFdo they do that in big bear ekeating ?
15:18.59ekeatingyes, at the big bear cabins
15:19.04zakzakattacknope I dont have anything to report
15:19.32ekeatinglots of fun but little sleep with all night security
15:19.45ekeatingsaw a bear up there last year
15:20.06ekeatingJoshBang, anything for this meeting?
15:20.25JoshBangNope
15:20.38ekeatingchadf?
15:20.40TimRikerChadF, probably won't drop under 55‌° or so tonight.
15:20.40ChadFtdeforest and I continue to make good progress on the new system - we've added a feature tom nicknamed Draft Day with solves several challenges  ... eager to hear the feedback on Mon
15:21.05ChadFthat' all for me
15:21.15ekeatingsmootar, ?
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15:21.31smootarNot related to this project, but for your information.
15:21.31smootarTimRiker and I had a discussion yesterday about Akamai issues and becoming more secure at the Church.
15:21.31smootarI think there is an opportunity to make things better for all of the church websites by not giving Akamai our cert.
15:21.31smootarChad and I have a meeting about fake data creation with Stephen Carlisle and crew.  
15:21.31smootarSomeone has requested this from the business side.
15:21.33smootarThat's all
15:22.00ChadFgood reminder smootar -
15:22.17ChadFTimRiker agreed to send us some talking points for our fake data meeting w/stephen carlile
15:22.18TimRikersmootar, ChadF, when's the data meeting? I didn't send a reply to ChadF yet.
15:22.22ChadFthanks TimRiker
15:22.47smootar15 June
15:22.48ChadFalso, I will add some fortify and some BYU-penetration-testing tasks to Jira and assign to cpitt to fill up his sprint
15:23.00tdeforestthat reminds me, i unlinked my dropbox account from this computer yesterday and removed the app.
15:23.49ekeatingdlhace, anything to report?
15:24.22dlhaceWAM team is looking into the signout problem.  
15:24.30dlhaceI will work with them as needed
15:24.52dlhaceare there any other jira tasks that are urgent?
15:25.22ekeatingchadf?
15:25.48ChadFekeating, will you please f/u with Darren Baker on Mon as to the 2 jira items assigned to him for 2.7?
15:25.54ChadFI already reported - thx
15:26.02smootardlhace, there are 3 assigned to you for 2.7
15:26.14TimRikertdeforest, having dropbox installed is not a security violation as far as I know. placing private membership data there would be, but team sharing public information would be fine for example.
15:27.08smootardlhace has 353, 763, and 483.
15:27.40tdeforestTimRiker, my understanding was that we were requested not to use it due to their aggressive license that would (theoretically) allow them access to the Church's systems and financial records
15:29.36ekeatinglooks like we're out of time.  anything else you want to adde quickly?
15:29.49smootarI believe the dropbox should not be associated with a church account at all.  If we sign it as an individual using our own account I think you are ok. If you use your ldschurch.org account when signing, that is not ok.
15:30.10TimRikertdeforest, hmm. I don't recall that. /me looks around
15:30.12smootarIt should not be associated with the church at all.
15:30.30smootarThat was my interpretation.
15:30.38smootarBut we should have that clarified.
15:31.02tdeforesti haven't received anything written. only word of mouth expressions by John and others
15:31.10smootarAnd there shouldn't be any church data stored on that account.
15:31.27smootarJohn's words is all that I have heard as well.
15:31.48tdeforestif it is ok to have it under a personal account, then i should be ok - as long as i remove the ldstech files from the dropbox :)
15:31.48ekeatingokay, thank you for all that you do.
15:32.18ekeatingDon't forget, NO scrum on Monday.
15:32.22ekeating~meetend <LDSTech Dev Scrum>
15:32.22infobot********** End of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.06.08 15:32:22 **********
15:32.30smootarThanks ekeating
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15:37.23TimRikerhere it mentions "Highly Confidential Data" should be encrypted prior to storing on DropBox. https://apps.ldschurch.org/sites/itsecurity/policy/ITStandardsLibrary/Data%20Encryption%20Standard.pdf
15:37.40scgallafentTimRiker, since WAM is working for wiki, do you see any reason to leave LDAP extension in there?
15:37.51TimRikerscgallafent, nope
15:38.25scgallafentI'm going to remove it with this wiki update.
15:39.12TimRikerfine with me
15:43.31scgallafentTurbolds, hold on for a couple of minutes -- finishing a call.
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15:46.14TimRikerhttps://teams.ldschurch.org/sites/ldstech/SitePages/Home.aspx
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15:46.51TimRikerhttps://teams.ldschurch.org/sites/LDSTech2012Survey/
15:56.28tdeforestscgallafent, i suspect in need a wam_emulation setting somewhere for the wiki to accept the wam headers from cdev.
15:56.43scgallafentYes.
15:57.02scgallafentI'm on the phone with Turbolds. Can I get back to you in a few minutes?
15:57.17tdeforestnp
15:57.30tdeforestgoes to check irc logs
15:58.30TimRikerhttps://teams.ldschurch.org/sites/LDSTech/
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17:06.56*** topic/#ldstech by scgallafent -> LDSTech Broadcast - July 6 @ Noon MDT: http://tech.lds.org/wiki/Broadcast || LDSTech: http://tech.lds.org/ || Public IRC Logs: http://infobot.rikers.org/%23ldstech/ || CIA: #ldstech-commits
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18:56.25TimRiker~ldstech 722 saves 3G of disk space
18:56.26infobothttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-722 saves 3G of disk space
19:01.56TimRikerwoah... I'm signed in on tech as someone I'm not.
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21:12.23Jazzee8845smootar
21:12.29Jazzee8845you there?
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21:22.34Jazzee8845scgallafent any updates on CPAS
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21:40.36scgallafentJazzee8845, yes. I'll have some stuff for you to test in a week or so.
21:40.49Jazzee8845ok thanks scgallafent :)
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21:43.22Jazzee8845scgallafent you know the book of mormon musical is it good?
21:43.36scgallafentI don't know anything about it.
21:51.54Jazzee8845i will see if i can get into contact with smootar tomoz
21:51.58Jazzee8845good night all
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21:57.56em_prepI am a ward emergency preparedness specialist.  Is there any software available which allows members to input their resources & skills into an online database, and then for information users to get that info out either by logging in or by regular updates e-mailed to them?
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22:17.03tdeforestem_prep, i'm not sure i completely understand your question.
22:23.02em_prepEmergency preparedness folks make a list of the resources and skills of ward members for use in emergencies, ie tornados, earth quakes, sunami's, power outages, etc. I am looking to automate that process by having members login to our ward web site and enter their information on-line and then  have reports available to stake presidenticies, bishoprics, quorum leaders,  relief society leaders etc. both on line and monthly via automa
22:24.12em_prepIt would be even better is the reports were overlaid on google maps by head of household.
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22:31.48scgallafentem_prep, I don't know of any Church application that does what you are describing.
22:34.13em_prepare there any apps which gather info on a web page ie in PHP store it in a DB ie. postgres, and then produce reports?  This is pretty off-the shelf stuff...
22:34.29scgallafentNot applications sponsored by the Church.
22:36.52em_prepTry the current ldstech project for spanish speaking bishops store houses... They do EXACTLY what I am talking about!  I am a software engineer and could use that as a starting point however I was just wondering if this had already been done.  Is there a list of completed and current projects that I could look at?
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23:31.43scgallafentem_prep, you can see a list of projects online on the LDSTech web site. I haven't done much with BSIR, but from what I understand, it manages inventory and orders for bishops storehouses.
23:32.14scgallafentI don't see how that relates to track emergency preparedness as you're describing.
23:33.19scgallafentThere are lots of Church apps that collection information from a web page and store it in a database, but none that specifically deals with tracking emergency preparedness informaiton.
23:33.25scgallafents/informaiton/information/
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