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15:00.51 | ChadF | ~meetstart LDSTech Dev Scrum |
15:00.52 | infobot | ********** Start of the LDSTech Dev Scrum Meeting on 2012.07.10 15:00:52 ********** |
15:00.55 | smootar | moin |
15:00.57 | scgallafent | Moin |
15:00.59 | ChadF | Hey all |
15:01.06 | tdeforest | moin |
15:01.10 | ChadF | Elder Keating is out today |
15:01.14 | cpitt | morning |
15:01.31 | ChadF | Let's focus on what is left to do to release |
15:01.43 | ChadF | scgallafent, where are things at on the last ticket? |
15:01.49 | scgallafent | Besides meetings, I spent yesterday configuring a new computer and working on Swarm to add categories to the statistics page. |
15:01.49 | scgallafent | I don't know how much testing happened on the existing categories features yesterday. I know that Kevin did some work and closed them . |
15:01.49 | scgallafent | I looked at the categories issue in JIRA ( https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-488 ) and didn't see any reported issues from testing yesterday. |
15:01.49 | scgallafent | Once I commit the changes for the stats page, Swarm is complete for this sprint except for an issue that Kevin reopened yesterday. |
15:01.52 | scgallafent | I'm wrapping up my testing on the stats page and hope to commit it in 30-60 minutes. |
15:01.54 | scgallafent | I'll be working today on any other Swarm issues that come up in testing. |
15:02.50 | smootar | sees TimRiker coming in. |
15:02.53 | ChadF | excellent - thanks scgallafent for helping us get categories and priorities added into this release |
15:03.03 | KFitz | I looked at Categories, Priorities, etc. I have some enhancement requests, but everything was looking pretty good. |
15:03.15 | scgallafent | Enhancement requests? :) |
15:03.17 | scgallafent | ~lart KFitz |
15:03.17 | infobot | gives KFitz an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending KFitz to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
15:03.17 | ChadF | KFitz, will you have time to test the stats page this morning so we can possibly release today? |
15:03.25 | scgallafent | Perfect :) |
15:03.31 | KFitz | No |
15:03.40 | KFitz | my soonest opening is tonight at 5:00 |
15:04.10 | KFitz | depending on how long the missionary visit is, I may have an hour from 1-2 |
15:04.17 | ChadF | hmmm - ok, that means I should bump our sprint planning to Thur since Alan is OOO tomorrow |
15:04.27 | ChadF | smootar, is that right? |
15:04.35 | KFitz | you choose.... sprint planning or testing. |
15:04.41 | smootar | yes I am out tomorrow. |
15:04.41 | ChadF | or should I say, "do you concur"? |
15:04.55 | smootar | KFitz needs to say go. |
15:05.15 | ChadF | ok- let's bump and release possibly tomorrow |
15:05.31 | ChadF | cpitt, scgallafent and timriker, do you all have stuff to work on for a couple days? |
15:05.44 | scgallafent | I'm sure I can find something. |
15:05.47 | cpitt | yessir |
15:06.00 | ChadF | I know that tdeforest can keep busy on changes to the new designs from our mtg yesterday |
15:06.05 | scgallafent | Does that mean KFitz will be testing from 2:00 to 5:00? |
15:06.09 | ChadF | (good feedback by the team on those) |
15:06.47 | KFitz | I cant imagine I will need more than an hour to review the stats page... unless you really messed it up ;) |
15:06.49 | smootar | I think we should be all hands on deck for testing |
15:06.54 | tdeforest | indeed - i'll be busy with the good feedback |
15:07.19 | ChadF | didn't mean to steal your thunder tdeforest :) |
15:07.24 | KFitz | swarm meeting or ldstech meeting? |
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15:07.42 | scgallafent | OK. I'll plan to be ready to fix whatever KFitz finds. |
15:07.48 | scgallafent | Not that he'll get a chance to find anything. |
15:07.50 | ChadF | so, per smootar , let's put our open cycles on testing ... swarm and tech ... on cdev |
15:08.34 | scgallafent | I don't know how much testing happened on Swarm yesterday. I did find and fix a bug this morning that no one had found yet. |
15:08.53 | tdeforest | i did a little testing in the morning |
15:08.54 | TimRiker | yea for bug crunching |
15:09.06 | tdeforest | i didn't find any bugs |
15:09.10 | scgallafent | Mmm.... the little cream-filled kind. |
15:09.19 | TimRiker | mmm. tasty |
15:09.29 | zakzakattack | I tested and didnt find anything |
15:09.39 | TimRiker | and high in protein |
15:10.03 | ChadF | Ok - so we'll focus on getting things tested, getting the approval from KFitz to ship |
15:10.07 | scgallafent | No worries. It was a sneaky one. |
15:10.10 | ChadF | does anyone else have anything to report? |
15:10.21 | TimRiker | I did some trivial testing, didn't find anything. I did find that WAM was changed on cdmz and perhaps we have what we need to do cookie renaming now. |
15:11.06 | smootar | cool |
15:11.08 | TimRiker | I may look into that soon, but I'll wait till we're out of the critical testing phaze. |
15:11.09 | scgallafent | cheers |
15:11.26 | TimRiker | perhaps next time KFitz plans a demo, that's when I'll break things. |
15:11.35 | smootar | TimRiker, I would like to chat about coda after this meeting with you. |
15:11.43 | KFitz | I'm done giving demo's... one was enough |
15:11.48 | TimRiker | ok. you're ooo today, yes? |
15:12.03 | TimRiker | KFitz, brought in my lego robot today. :) |
15:12.13 | cpitt | If anyone wants to see if they can reproduce this, https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-472, KFitz reopened but I can't reproduce....I must be special or something |
15:12.20 | smootar | tomorrow ooo |
15:12.29 | TimRiker | k |
15:12.50 | ChadF | your OOO reminder showed up this morning on as an alert for me via outlook and my phone smootar |
15:13.02 | smootar | Yes, 24 hour notice. |
15:13.03 | TimRiker | rolls his chair back 3 feet and sees that smootar is indeed in the office. |
15:13.05 | ChadF | that may have been what TimRiker was referring to |
15:13.08 | KFitz | ooh I want to see it timriker |
15:13.08 | smootar | Or something like that. |
15:13.29 | tdeforest | that way you can steamroll him with stuff before his day off :) |
15:13.30 | ChadF | once we feel good about the release, anyone with extra cycles should play around with cdev PHPBB & report any concerns, issues, praise, etc |
15:13.45 | TimRiker | no word on space for new rhel production machines yet. |
15:13.53 | ChadF | anything else for this scrum? |
15:14.09 | scgallafent | Kevin reopened an issue yesterday. |
15:14.14 | scgallafent | I think it's assigned to cpitt. |
15:14.26 | scgallafent | I can help with it a little later, if needed. |
15:14.27 | smootar | throws something at TimRiker |
15:14.31 | cpitt | see my above message |
15:14.50 | scgallafent | sees the missed message <blush/> |
15:15.00 | ChadF | I'll try to recreate swarm 472 too |
15:15.00 | cpitt | I can't reproduce it, Kevin must be magical or I lackwitted |
15:15.21 | KFitz | I am trying it again as we "speak" |
15:15.28 | TimRiker | I expect this is a symptom of the wam login state. |
15:15.34 | TimRiker | looks up the other jira... |
15:15.41 | tdeforest | i will try to reproduce |
15:16.03 | ChadF | ok - let's get this release wrapped up brethren - bye |
15:16.09 | ChadF | ~meetend LDSTech dev scrum |
15:16.10 | infobot | ********** End of the LDSTech dev scrum Meeting on 2012.07.10 15:16:10 ********** |
15:16.11 | smootar | nods |
15:16.45 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-510 |
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15:17.39 | scgallafent | KFitz, if the user hasn't selected a project, would you prefer to see only "All categories" or a list of every category for every project that user has access to? |
15:18.17 | scgallafent | "All categories" would be consistent with the behavior for the builds list. |
15:19.47 | tdeforest | cpitt, KFitz i am also unable to reproduce |
15:20.24 | KFitz | I dont believe you |
15:20.37 | tdeforest | KFitz, are you in your office? |
15:20.52 | tdeforest | i'll demo for you. maybe it will work on your computer |
15:21.12 | KFitz | yes, I am doing it now |
15:22.39 | KFitz | neaner neaner, I showed tom it DOESNT WORK!!! |
15:23.07 | cpitt | I'll come over to get the steps to reproduce then..... |
15:25.07 | TimRiker | cpitt, see https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-510 and https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-536 |
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15:35.17 | KFitz | scgallagent I think All Categories would be fine. |
15:38.50 | scgallafent | OK. |
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15:43.23 | cpitt | scgallafent, you know swarm the best....any idea why ktester2 might be special.....can't reproduce the afforementioned bug with any other user |
15:43.35 | scgallafent | What are the steps to reproduce? |
15:48.51 | KFitz | - Create a project |
15:48.56 | KFitz | - add test cases to the project |
15:49.09 | KFitz | - join project with ktester 2 |
15:49.18 | KFitz | - mark test cases as pass and failed |
15:49.21 | KFitz | - leave the project |
15:49.32 | KFitz | - ktester2 still sees project in list of swarm projects |
15:50.09 | scgallafent | KFitz, cpitt, I'll go hunting in a few minutes. Just reading through my categories code on the stats page before I commit. |
15:50.10 | KFitz | with aholder it works fine. can no longer see the project... ktester2 unfortunatley doesnt |
15:50.15 | ChadF | yep - vholder worked as designed; ktester2 failed as KFitz reported |
15:50.52 | scgallafent | Which project did you test with? |
15:51.05 | cpitt | several |
15:51.54 | cpitt | vholder, aaron, JohnDoe all work as expected on several different projects |
15:52.20 | cpitt | ktester2 fails |
15:54.01 | scgallafent | cpitt, I justed tested removing ktester2 from a project. JIRA permissions were not changed, which is why they don't change in Swarm. |
15:54.26 | scgallafent | Can you test in LDSTech and see what happens with the JIRA call to remove ktester2 from a project when the user leaves a project? |
15:56.31 | cpitt | I will check, can't imagine why ktester2 would be different than any others, but I imagine I'll find out soon enough |
15:56.58 | scgallafent | Something is going on in the call to JIRA. I checked permissions in JIRA, left a project, and then checked JIRA again. No change in the JIRA permissions. |
15:58.00 | scgallafent | I didn't see anything in JIRA that might cause it, so I would test LDSTech and then see if that gives you a clue why there isn't a change in JIRA. |
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17:59.54 | TimRiker | scgallafent, does freenode listen on 6697/ircs? |
18:00.18 | scgallafent | I believe so. I read an article that said almost all of the major IRC networks listen on 6697. |
18:00.29 | scgallafent | looks |
18:00.53 | TimRiker | hmm. 6697/ircs-u |
18:00.54 | scgallafent | 6697, 7000, and 7070 |
18:01.04 | TimRiker | k. makes sense to me. |
18:01.15 | scgallafent | It's not a standard, but the fact that someone suggested means that is a good possibility if someone ever codifies a standard. |
18:01.36 | scgallafent | Here's the freenode blog post about it: http://blog.freenode.net/2011/02/port-6697-irc-via-tlsssl/ |
18:01.52 | TimRiker | brb |
18:01.55 | scgallafent | Looks like 6697 is official for them. |
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18:03.09 | TimRiker | yea. 6697 |
18:03.27 | scgallafent | switches |
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18:07.30 | TimRiker | scgallafent, added links on https://tech.lds.org/wiki/IRC |
18:08.53 | scgallafent | I use chat.us.freenode.net to get a server with lower latency. |
18:11.29 | TimRiker | nods |
18:11.56 | TimRiker | chat.us does not list any ipv6 addresses. :) |
18:12.23 | TimRiker | not that I can get there from here, but I use ipv6 at home |
18:12.24 | scgallafent | Only one IPv6 Freenode server in the US. |
18:15.08 | scgallafent | Freenode has a wizard to add chat to your web site: http://webchat.freenode.net/, click icon at top left. Someoneā¢ should set that up. |
18:15.32 | josephscott | ~lart someone |
18:15.32 | infobot | sends a legion of lawyers after someone's head |
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18:17.06 | chrxn | Hello, all! |
18:17.19 | scgallafent | Hello, chrxn. |
18:17.33 | chrxn | Hi scgallafent ! How are you? |
18:17.46 | scgallafent | Good. How are you? |
18:19.16 | chrxn | I'm actually very well, thanks |
18:19.27 | chrxn | Glad to hear you are doing good. |
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19:36.37 | scgallafent | wonders if KFitz is in his office |
19:41.37 | scgallafent | Category support in Swarm is complete. If you are looking for something to do, feel free to beat on it until it breaks. |
19:44.09 | KFitz | stats up? |
19:45.48 | scgallafent | Yesiree. |
19:46.17 | KFitz | ok, just finishing up some other stuffs then will take a looksie |
19:46.33 | scgallafent | I'll be here waiting to fix things. |
20:04.30 | KFitz | scallagent, are we goign to get the checkbox back for selecting and deselecting test cases? |
20:05.43 | KFitz | that was for scgallafent without a g ;) |
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20:14.47 | TimRiker | scgallafent, web chat just drops an iframe on your site instead of sending folks over there. not really interested in adding another dependency. :) |
20:15.19 | scgallafent | TimRiker, I didn't look at it in detail. Sounds like a good reason to avoid it. |
20:15.45 | scgallafent | KFitz, I could add the checkbox, but what should it do? We don't have a "save" button any more, so it would need to check or uncheck everything. |
20:16.00 | scgallafent | What if some are checked and some aren't? How would you prefer it behave? |
20:16.40 | KFitz | yeah I need to think about it... (for next release) |
20:16.52 | KFitz | we need a way to search on priority also |
20:17.10 | scgallafent | From the edit case page? |
20:17.27 | KFitz | yeah |
20:18.09 | KFitz | it woudl be nice to deselect all test cases, then search on Critical and just select those |
20:18.37 | scgallafent | I could start tinkering with the check box, if you want. |
20:19.56 | KFitz | well search doesnt search on priority either though... they kind of go hand in hand |
20:21.52 | TimRiker | would be nice if priority, category, and ordering were shown in jira. |
20:22.10 | scgallafent | Ewww. Search matches on any priority value. |
20:24.18 | KFitz | bug in there for you scgallafent ;) |
20:24.30 | KFitz | but I'm not sure if its a bug or not |
20:24.39 | KFitz | depending on what we "want" |
20:25.57 | KFitz | the more I think about it, the more I think we want it the way you coded it... where we are remembering pass fails based on the session... its only wierd when you are in the same session and you use multiple user accoutns.. the one user account see's what the other account did |
20:28.52 | scgallafent | KFitz, does it make sense to have the pass/fail persist beyond logout? |
20:29.34 | KFitz | well I think logout should end that session, but right now it doesnt |
20:29.38 | KFitz | it used to |
20:29.45 | scgallafent | heads off to fix that one |
20:36.16 | TimRiker | wam detected logout/login should clear the session, but does not at present. |
20:42.46 | scgallafent | TimRiker, the problem is that we don't really rely on a session for login. We just look at WAM to tell us who the user is. |
20:43.23 | TimRiker | we need to look at the session and see if the (decoded) CN matches. if not, clear the entire session and login anew. |
20:45.34 | scgallafent | I just looked through every use of $_SESSION and we never store the CN in the session. |
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20:56.05 | TimRiker | well now, that sounds like the first thing to fix. either cn, or ldsaccountid should be stored there and compared. |
20:56.20 | scgallafent | I'm adding a check against ldsaccountid. |
20:57.07 | TimRiker | we store ldsaccount id in the database? or only cn? if we only reference cn, then I'd stay with cn here too. |
20:57.25 | scgallafent | It's session only to detect a change in logged in user. |
20:57.53 | TimRiker | yes, but what do we use against the data in mysql? less knobs to turn == better |
20:57.59 | scgallafent | Since we're never comparing it to the database, I'd rather use the system-generated identifier than have to deal with the potentially encoded CN. |
20:58.13 | scgallafent | We use the decoded CN. |
20:58.49 | scgallafent | Granted, I could probably ignored whether the CN is encoded for this purpose. I just care if it is different from the last CN I saw. |
20:59.39 | TimRiker | I'd recommend storing the decoded cn, and comparing with that. prefer limiting data elements we depend on. |
21:01.34 | TimRiker | imagine someone testing with a broken wamulator config file and wondering why when he changes users he does not get his session cleared. (ie: his ldsaccountids are not unique) |
21:02.38 | scgallafent | Who are you and why are you impersonating TimRiker? :) |
21:03.43 | TimRiker | hehe. less dependencies == good. less to explain. trivial amount of extra code to avoid the extra dependency. it is extra code, just not much. |
21:04.38 | scgallafent | I started with ldsaccountid based on the idea that one ldsaccountid === one LDS Account. |
21:05.19 | TimRiker | I can see that perspective. and there's no encoding there. just that we're not using it anywhere else in swarm, so it's an extra dependency. |
21:05.46 | scgallafent | It should be completely self-contained in kSSO. |
21:06.11 | TimRiker | k. I voted, but you're actually coding. so you win. |
21:06.54 | scgallafent | I started with CN and switched to ldsaccountid due to === and no encoding. I'll finish it and then look at how much grief it takes to change horses. |
21:08.02 | FullmerCB_ | KFitz, looks like scgallafent is now done with Swarm 443, please test away when you can |
21:15.58 | smootar_ | So the only one left is ~swarm 541 |
21:16.10 | smootar | ~swarm 541 |
21:16.10 | infobot | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-541 |
21:16.19 | scgallafent | Yes. KFitz found that in testing and I'm working on it now. |
21:16.51 | smootar | cool. |
21:17.00 | smootar | The last ldstech one is |
21:17.04 | smootar | ~ldstech 353 |
21:17.04 | infobot | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-353 |
21:17.13 | smootar | This is the Fortify 360 install. |
21:17.16 | scgallafent | Not to say that KFitz won't find something else as he's testing. |
21:17.27 | smootar | It also includes testlink on that same server. |
21:18.17 | KFitz | I so closed 443 out like forever ago... wonders if FullmerCB_ looks through Jira or only his notes |
21:23.26 | FullmerCB_ | saw jira notifications from steve, missed it from your closing the item - thanks |
21:25.33 | KFitz | :) |
21:40.01 | KFitz | I dunno that 541 is a blocker |
21:40.32 | KFitz | most users 99%+ will only be using their LDS Account ID. They wont have access to, or use someone elses ID. |
21:40.53 | KFitz | we see this problem because we use multiple LDS Accounts and are moving back adn forth |
21:41.19 | scgallafent | Probably not, but it's getting fixed. |
21:43.39 | scgallafent | TimRiker, sign out from https://cdev.lds.org/ldstech/joomla/ redirects to https://www.lds.org/ |
21:43.43 | scgallafent | KFitz, try it now. |
21:46.10 | scgallafent | FullmerCB_, I see your note on https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-541 . Better now? |
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21:56.51 | KFitz | works now scgallafent |
21:56.52 | KFitz | tks |
21:57.08 | scgallafent | Hooray |
21:58.06 | KFitz | closed the bug |
21:58.06 | KFitz | everything else seems to be working ok |
21:58.27 | KFitz | of course you broke all my automation so I feel like I have a limp now |
21:58.45 | smootar | :) |
21:58.58 | scgallafent | It's not that I broke your automation. It's more that your automation needs to be updated to match the new version of the application. |
21:59.09 | KFitz | no, sorry |
21:59.11 | KFitz | you broke it |
21:59.40 | scgallafent | OK. I broke it. Inflexible ... piece ... automation .... |
22:00.51 | KFitz | :) |
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22:09.49 | FullmerCB_ | just went back to my swarm window and marked one test case as passed and one as failed ... was logged in under brent orville (ktester2 or 1?) |
22:10.38 | FullmerCB_ | after submitting the details of the bug I reported as failed, it appeared to accept my submittion, then it told me I had been signed out (didn't tell me why, but I'm sure I was timed out due to inactivity) |
22:11.07 | FullmerCB_ | signed back in as same guy and now I see that the items I passed and failed before it told me I had been timed out are not recorded |
22:11.14 | FullmerCB_ | this is a fix to a previous bug, I remember |
22:11.50 | scgallafent | Since your session expired, your history is reset. |
22:12.06 | FullmerCB_ | but we shoudl fix it so that it redirects me to the sign in page as soon as I first click pass or fail on a test case after being timed out |
22:12.20 | scgallafent | There are already JIRA items for that in the backlog. |
22:12.34 | FullmerCB_ | k |
22:12.35 | FullmerCB_ | thx |
22:12.36 | scgallafent | Do you want me to fix it now, or do we want to save it for the next sprint? |
22:13.39 | FullmerCB_ | next sprint- we should finish testing & launch - |
22:14.51 | scgallafent | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-476 |
22:15.12 | FullmerCB_ | ~ldstech 541 seems fixed now |
22:15.12 | infobot | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-541 seems fixed now |
22:15.43 | scgallafent | Says it was fixed in 2.6.3. Do you mean https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-541 ? |
22:16.29 | FullmerCB_ | I thougth it shoudl be a blocker b/c users would see each other's stuff. How can I, as a new users to swarm, mark anything as pass fail if I get in there and stuff is already marked as pass fail by other users? Seems like a majorly-critical-blocker to me ;) |
22:16.35 | FullmerCB_ | yep - meant Swarm 541 |
22:17.10 | scgallafent | It was an only an issue if you logged in as user A, completed some test cases, logged out, and then logged in as user B. |
22:17.17 | scgallafent | That's not a likely scenario for production use. |
22:17.52 | KFitz | unless it was a roomate coming in to use the computer while the browser was left on and then went to swarm |
22:18.08 | KFitz | or spouse |
22:18.25 | scgallafent | My roommate doesn't mess with my computer much. She gets her own. |
22:18.41 | KFitz | same ;) |
22:20.49 | scgallafent | is about ready for a break |
22:20.55 | scgallafent | Back in a bit |
22:28.56 | smootar | LDSTech Team what systems are critical for monitoring for all of the LDSTech Systems? |
22:29.07 | smootar | tech.lds.org is for sure one. |
22:29.11 | smootar | tech.lds.org/jira |
22:29.31 | smootar | tech.lds.org/swarm - does jira and swarm need to be monitored seperately? |
22:29.34 | KFitz | too late... Document submitted |
22:29.43 | smootar | What ever. |
22:29.47 | KFitz | true |
22:30.04 | smootar | OK, submit it again. |
22:30.16 | KFitz | sorry I had to have it in |
22:30.24 | KFitz | and they didnt want subsites |
22:30.28 | KFitz | just products |
22:30.35 | KFitz | so tech.lds.org was fine |
22:30.38 | smootar | ok |
22:30.47 | KFitz | its VERY general |
22:31.00 | smootar | Jira is on a different server, would Howard O. be monitoring those? |
22:31.07 | smootar | Or SVN? |
22:31.09 | KFitz | frankly its kinda dumb ;) |
22:31.17 | smootar | Who is the list for? |
22:31.19 | KFitz | because I'm not sure what they are even asking... |
22:31.25 | smootar | hmmmm |
22:31.30 | KFitz | Come to my office.. I dont want it Googleable ;) |
22:31.36 | smootar | OK. |
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