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15:00.51ChadF~meetstart LDSTech Dev Scrum
15:00.52infobot********** Start of the LDSTech Dev Scrum Meeting on 2012.07.10 15:00:52 **********
15:00.55smootarmoin
15:00.57scgallafentMoin
15:00.59ChadFHey all
15:01.06tdeforestmoin
15:01.10ChadFElder Keating is out today
15:01.14cpittmorning
15:01.31ChadFLet's focus on what is left to do to release
15:01.43ChadFscgallafent, where are things at on the last ticket?
15:01.49scgallafentBesides meetings, I spent yesterday configuring a new computer and working on Swarm to add categories to the statistics page.
15:01.49scgallafentI don't know how much testing happened on the existing categories features yesterday. I know that Kevin did some work and closed them .
15:01.49scgallafentI looked at the categories issue in JIRA ( https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-488 ) and didn't see any reported issues from testing yesterday.
15:01.49scgallafentOnce I commit the changes for the stats page, Swarm is complete for this sprint except for an issue that Kevin reopened yesterday.
15:01.52scgallafentI'm wrapping up my testing on the stats page and hope to commit it in 30-60 minutes.
15:01.54scgallafentI'll be working today on any other Swarm issues that come up in testing.
15:02.50smootarsees TimRiker coming in.
15:02.53ChadFexcellent - thanks scgallafent for helping us get categories and priorities added into this release
15:03.03KFitzI looked at Categories, Priorities, etc.  I have some enhancement requests, but everything was looking pretty good.
15:03.15scgallafentEnhancement requests? :)
15:03.17scgallafent~lart KFitz
15:03.17infobotgives KFitz an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending KFitz to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple
15:03.17ChadFKFitz, will you have time to test the stats page this morning so we can possibly release today?
15:03.25scgallafentPerfect :)
15:03.31KFitzNo
15:03.40KFitzmy soonest opening is tonight at 5:00
15:04.10KFitzdepending on how long the missionary visit is, I may have an hour from 1-2
15:04.17ChadFhmmm - ok, that means I should bump our sprint planning to Thur since Alan is OOO tomorrow
15:04.27ChadFsmootar, is that right?
15:04.35KFitzyou choose.... sprint planning or testing.  
15:04.41smootaryes I am out tomorrow.
15:04.41ChadFor should I say, "do you concur"?
15:04.55smootarKFitz needs to say go.
15:05.15ChadFok- let's bump and release possibly tomorrow
15:05.31ChadFcpitt, scgallafent and timriker, do you all have stuff to work on for a couple days?
15:05.44scgallafentI'm sure I can find something.
15:05.47cpittyessir
15:06.00ChadFI know that tdeforest can keep busy on changes to the new designs from our mtg yesterday
15:06.05scgallafentDoes that mean KFitz will be testing from 2:00 to 5:00?
15:06.09ChadF(good feedback by the team on those)
15:06.47KFitzI cant imagine I will need more than an hour to review the stats page... unless you really messed it up ;)
15:06.49smootarI think we should be all hands on deck for testing
15:06.54tdeforestindeed - i'll be busy with the good feedback
15:07.19ChadFdidn't mean to steal your thunder tdeforest :)
15:07.24KFitzswarm meeting or ldstech meeting?
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15:07.42scgallafentOK. I'll plan to be ready to fix whatever KFitz finds.
15:07.48scgallafentNot that he'll get a chance to find anything.
15:07.50ChadFso, per smootar , let's put our open cycles on testing ... swarm and tech ... on cdev
15:08.34scgallafentI don't know how much testing happened on Swarm yesterday. I did find and fix a bug this morning that no one had found yet.
15:08.53tdeforesti did a little testing in the morning
15:08.54TimRikeryea for bug crunching
15:09.06tdeforesti didn't find any bugs
15:09.10scgallafentMmm.... the little cream-filled kind.
15:09.19TimRikermmm. tasty
15:09.29zakzakattackI tested and  didnt find anything
15:09.39TimRikerand high in protein
15:10.03ChadFOk - so we'll focus on getting things tested, getting the approval from KFitz to ship
15:10.07scgallafentNo worries. It was a sneaky one.
15:10.10ChadFdoes anyone else have anything to report?
15:10.21TimRikerI did some trivial testing, didn't find anything. I did find that WAM was changed on cdmz and perhaps we have what we need to do cookie renaming now.
15:11.06smootarcool
15:11.08TimRikerI may look into that soon, but I'll wait till we're out of the critical testing phaze.
15:11.09scgallafentcheers
15:11.26TimRikerperhaps next time KFitz plans a demo, that's when I'll break things.
15:11.35smootarTimRiker, I would like to chat about coda after this meeting with you.
15:11.43KFitzI'm done giving demo's... one was enough
15:11.48TimRikerok. you're ooo today, yes?
15:12.03TimRikerKFitz, brought in my lego robot today. :)
15:12.13cpittIf anyone wants to see if they can reproduce this, https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-472, KFitz reopened but I can't reproduce....I must be special or something
15:12.20smootartomorrow ooo
15:12.29TimRikerk
15:12.50ChadFyour OOO reminder showed up this morning on as an alert for me via outlook and my phone smootar
15:13.02smootarYes, 24 hour notice.
15:13.03TimRikerrolls his chair back 3 feet and sees that smootar is indeed in the office.
15:13.05ChadFthat may have been what TimRiker was referring to
15:13.08KFitzooh I want to see it timriker
15:13.08smootarOr something like that.
15:13.29tdeforestthat way you can steamroll him with stuff before his day off :)
15:13.30ChadFonce we feel good about the release, anyone with extra cycles should play around with cdev PHPBB & report any concerns, issues, praise, etc
15:13.45TimRikerno word on space for new rhel production machines yet.
15:13.53ChadFanything else for this scrum?
15:14.09scgallafentKevin reopened an issue yesterday.
15:14.14scgallafentI think it's assigned to cpitt.
15:14.26scgallafentI can help with it a little later, if needed.
15:14.27smootarthrows something at TimRiker
15:14.31cpittsee my above message
15:14.50scgallafentsees the missed message <blush/>
15:15.00ChadFI'll try to recreate swarm 472 too
15:15.00cpittI can't reproduce it, Kevin must be magical or I lackwitted
15:15.21KFitzI am trying it again as we "speak"
15:15.28TimRikerI expect this is a symptom of the wam login state.
15:15.34TimRikerlooks up the other jira...
15:15.41tdeforesti will try to reproduce
15:16.03ChadFok - let's get this release wrapped up brethren - bye
15:16.09ChadF~meetend LDSTech dev scrum
15:16.10infobot********** End of the LDSTech dev scrum Meeting on 2012.07.10 15:16:10 **********
15:16.11smootarnods
15:16.45TimRikerhttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-510
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15:17.39scgallafentKFitz, if the user hasn't selected a project, would you prefer to see only "All categories" or a list of every category for every project that user has access to?
15:18.17scgallafent"All categories" would be consistent with the behavior for the builds list.
15:19.47tdeforestcpitt, KFitz i am also unable to reproduce
15:20.24KFitzI dont believe you
15:20.37tdeforestKFitz, are you in your office?
15:20.52tdeforesti'll demo for you. maybe it will work on your computer
15:21.12KFitzyes, I am doing it now
15:22.39KFitzneaner neaner, I showed tom it DOESNT WORK!!!
15:23.07cpittI'll come over to get the steps to reproduce then.....
15:25.07TimRikercpitt, see https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-510 and https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-536
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15:35.17KFitzscgallagent I think All Categories would be fine.
15:38.50scgallafentOK.
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15:43.23cpittscgallafent, you know swarm the best....any idea why ktester2 might be special.....can't reproduce the afforementioned bug with any other user
15:43.35scgallafentWhat are the steps to reproduce?
15:48.51KFitz- Create a project
15:48.56KFitz- add test cases to the project
15:49.09KFitz- join project with ktester 2
15:49.18KFitz- mark test cases as pass and failed
15:49.21KFitz- leave the project
15:49.32KFitz- ktester2 still sees project in list of swarm projects
15:50.09scgallafentKFitz, cpitt, I'll go hunting in a few minutes. Just reading through my categories code on the stats page before I commit.
15:50.10KFitzwith aholder it works fine.  can no longer see the project... ktester2 unfortunatley doesnt
15:50.15ChadFyep - vholder worked as designed; ktester2 failed as KFitz reported
15:50.52scgallafentWhich project did you test with?
15:51.05cpittseveral
15:51.54cpittvholder, aaron, JohnDoe all work as expected on several different projects
15:52.20cpittktester2 fails
15:54.01scgallafentcpitt, I justed tested removing ktester2 from a project. JIRA permissions were not changed, which is why they don't change in Swarm.
15:54.26scgallafentCan you test in LDSTech and see what happens with the JIRA call to remove ktester2 from a project when the user leaves a project?
15:56.31cpittI will check, can't imagine why ktester2 would be different than any others, but I imagine I'll find out soon enough
15:56.58scgallafentSomething is going on in the call to JIRA. I checked permissions in JIRA, left a project, and then checked JIRA again. No change in the JIRA permissions.
15:58.00scgallafentI didn't see anything in JIRA that might cause it, so I would test LDSTech and then see if that gives you a clue why there isn't a change in JIRA.
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17:59.54TimRikerscgallafent, does freenode listen on 6697/ircs?
18:00.18scgallafentI believe so. I read an article that said almost all of the major IRC networks listen on 6697.
18:00.29scgallafentlooks
18:00.53TimRikerhmm. 6697/ircs-u
18:00.54scgallafent6697, 7000, and 7070
18:01.04TimRikerk. makes sense to me.
18:01.15scgallafentIt's not a standard, but the fact that someone suggested means that is a good possibility if someone ever codifies a standard.
18:01.36scgallafentHere's the freenode blog post about it: http://blog.freenode.net/2011/02/port-6697-irc-via-tlsssl/
18:01.52TimRikerbrb
18:01.55scgallafentLooks like 6697 is official for them.
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18:03.09TimRikeryea. 6697
18:03.27scgallafentswitches
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18:07.30TimRikerscgallafent, added links on https://tech.lds.org/wiki/IRC
18:08.53scgallafentI use chat.us.freenode.net to get a server with lower latency.
18:11.29TimRikernods
18:11.56TimRikerchat.us does not list any ipv6 addresses. :)
18:12.23TimRikernot that I can get there from here, but I use ipv6 at home
18:12.24scgallafentOnly one IPv6 Freenode server in the US.
18:15.08scgallafentFreenode has a wizard to add chat to your web site: http://webchat.freenode.net/, click icon at top left. Someoneā„¢ should set that up.
18:15.32josephscott~lart someone
18:15.32infobotsends a legion of lawyers after someone's head
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18:17.06chrxnHello, all!
18:17.19scgallafentHello, chrxn.
18:17.33chrxnHi scgallafent ! How are you?
18:17.46scgallafentGood. How are you?
18:19.16chrxnI'm actually very well, thanks
18:19.27chrxnGlad to hear you are doing good.
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19:36.37scgallafentwonders if KFitz is in his office
19:41.37scgallafentCategory support in Swarm is complete. If you are looking for something to do, feel free to beat on it until it breaks.
19:44.09KFitzstats up?
19:45.48scgallafentYesiree.
19:46.17KFitzok, just finishing up some other stuffs then will take a looksie
19:46.33scgallafentI'll be here waiting to fix things.
20:04.30KFitzscallagent, are we goign to get the checkbox back for selecting and deselecting test cases?
20:05.43KFitzthat was for scgallafent without a g ;)
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20:14.47TimRikerscgallafent, web chat just drops an iframe on your site instead of sending folks over there. not really interested in adding another dependency. :)
20:15.19scgallafentTimRiker, I didn't look at it in detail. Sounds like a good reason to avoid it.
20:15.45scgallafentKFitz, I could add the checkbox, but what should it do? We don't have a "save" button any more, so it would need to check or uncheck everything.
20:16.00scgallafentWhat if some are checked and some aren't? How would you prefer it behave?
20:16.40KFitzyeah I need to think about it... (for next release)
20:16.52KFitzwe need a way to search on priority also
20:17.10scgallafentFrom the edit case page?
20:17.27KFitzyeah
20:18.09KFitzit woudl be nice to deselect all test cases, then search on Critical and just select those
20:18.37scgallafentI could start tinkering with the check box, if you want.
20:19.56KFitzwell search doesnt search on priority either though... they kind of go hand in hand
20:21.52TimRikerwould be nice if priority, category, and ordering were shown in jira.
20:22.10scgallafentEwww. Search matches on any priority value.
20:24.18KFitzbug in there for you scgallafent ;)
20:24.30KFitzbut I'm not sure if its a bug or not
20:24.39KFitzdepending on what we "want"
20:25.57KFitzthe more I think about it, the more I think we want it the way you coded it... where we are remembering pass fails based on the session... its only wierd when you are in the same session and you use multiple user accoutns.. the one user account see's what the other account did
20:28.52scgallafentKFitz, does it make sense to have the pass/fail persist beyond logout?
20:29.34KFitzwell I think logout should end that session, but right now it doesnt
20:29.38KFitzit used to
20:29.45scgallafentheads off to fix that one
20:36.16TimRikerwam detected logout/login should clear the session, but does not at present.
20:42.46scgallafentTimRiker, the problem is that we don't really rely on a session for login. We just look at WAM to tell us who the user is.
20:43.23TimRikerwe need to look at the session and see if the (decoded) CN matches. if not, clear the entire session and login anew.
20:45.34scgallafentI just looked through every use of $_SESSION and we never store the CN in the session.
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20:56.05TimRikerwell now, that sounds like the first thing to fix. either cn, or ldsaccountid should be stored there and compared.
20:56.20scgallafentI'm adding a check against ldsaccountid.
20:57.07TimRikerwe store ldsaccount id in the database? or only cn? if we only reference cn, then I'd stay with cn here too.
20:57.25scgallafentIt's session only to detect a change in logged in user.
20:57.53TimRikeryes, but what do we use against the data in mysql? less knobs to turn == better
20:57.59scgallafentSince we're never comparing it to the database, I'd rather use the system-generated identifier than have to deal with the potentially encoded CN.
20:58.13scgallafentWe use the decoded CN.
20:58.49scgallafentGranted, I could probably ignored whether the CN is encoded for this purpose. I just care if it is different from the last CN I saw.
20:59.39TimRikerI'd recommend storing the decoded cn, and comparing with that. prefer limiting data elements we depend on.
21:01.34TimRikerimagine someone testing with a broken wamulator config file and wondering why when he changes users he does not get his session cleared. (ie: his ldsaccountids are not unique)
21:02.38scgallafentWho are you and why are you impersonating TimRiker? :)
21:03.43TimRikerhehe. less dependencies == good. less to explain. trivial amount of extra code to avoid the extra dependency. it is extra code, just not much.
21:04.38scgallafentI started with ldsaccountid based on the idea that one ldsaccountid === one LDS Account.
21:05.19TimRikerI can see that perspective. and there's no encoding there. just that we're not using it anywhere else in swarm, so it's an extra dependency.
21:05.46scgallafentIt should be completely self-contained in kSSO.
21:06.11TimRikerk. I voted, but you're actually coding. so you win.
21:06.54scgallafentI started with CN and switched to ldsaccountid due to === and no encoding. I'll finish it and then look at how much grief it takes to change horses.
21:08.02FullmerCB_KFitz, looks like scgallafent is now done with Swarm 443, please test away when you can
21:15.58smootar_So the only one left is ~swarm 541
21:16.10smootar~swarm 541
21:16.10infobothttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-541
21:16.19scgallafentYes. KFitz found that in testing and I'm working on it now.
21:16.51smootarcool.
21:17.00smootarThe last ldstech one is
21:17.04smootar~ldstech 353
21:17.04infobothttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-353
21:17.13smootarThis is the Fortify 360 install.
21:17.16scgallafentNot to say that KFitz won't find something else as he's testing.
21:17.27smootarIt also includes testlink on that same server.
21:18.17KFitzI so closed 443 out like forever ago... wonders if FullmerCB_ looks through Jira or only his notes
21:23.26FullmerCB_saw jira notifications from steve, missed it from your closing the item - thanks
21:25.33KFitz:)
21:40.01KFitzI dunno that 541 is a blocker
21:40.32KFitzmost users 99%+ will only be using their LDS Account ID.  They wont have access to, or use someone elses ID.
21:40.53KFitzwe see this problem because we use multiple LDS Accounts and are moving back adn forth
21:41.19scgallafentProbably not, but it's getting fixed.
21:43.39scgallafentTimRiker, sign out from https://cdev.lds.org/ldstech/joomla/ redirects to https://www.lds.org/
21:43.43scgallafentKFitz, try it now.
21:46.10scgallafentFullmerCB_, I see your note on https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-541 . Better now?
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21:56.51KFitzworks now scgallafent
21:56.52KFitztks
21:57.08scgallafentHooray
21:58.06KFitzclosed the bug
21:58.06KFitzeverything else seems to be working ok
21:58.27KFitzof course you broke all my automation so I feel like I have a limp now
21:58.45smootar:)
21:58.58scgallafentIt's not that I broke your automation. It's more that your automation needs to be updated to match the new version of the application.
21:59.09KFitzno, sorry
21:59.11KFitzyou broke it
21:59.40scgallafentOK. I broke it. Inflexible ... piece ... automation ....
22:00.51KFitz:)
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22:09.49FullmerCB_just went back to my swarm window and marked one test case as passed and one as failed ... was logged in under brent orville (ktester2 or 1?)
22:10.38FullmerCB_after submitting the details of the bug I reported as failed, it appeared to accept my submittion, then it told me I had been signed out (didn't tell me why, but I'm sure I was timed out due to inactivity)
22:11.07FullmerCB_signed back in as same guy and now I see that the items I passed and failed before it told me I had been timed out are not recorded
22:11.14FullmerCB_this is a fix to a previous bug, I remember
22:11.50scgallafentSince your session expired, your history is reset.
22:12.06FullmerCB_but we shoudl fix it so that it redirects me to the sign in page as soon as I first click pass or fail on a test case after being timed out
22:12.20scgallafentThere are already JIRA items for that in the backlog.
22:12.34FullmerCB_k
22:12.35FullmerCB_thx
22:12.36scgallafentDo you want me to fix it now, or do we want to save it for the next sprint?
22:13.39FullmerCB_next sprint- we should finish testing & launch -
22:14.51scgallafenthttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-476
22:15.12FullmerCB_~ldstech 541 seems fixed now
22:15.12infobothttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-541 seems fixed now
22:15.43scgallafentSays it was fixed in 2.6.3. Do you mean https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-541 ?
22:16.29FullmerCB_I thougth it shoudl be a blocker b/c users would see each other's stuff.  How can I, as a new users to swarm, mark anything as pass fail if I get in there and stuff is already marked as pass fail by other users?  Seems like a majorly-critical-blocker to me ;)
22:16.35FullmerCB_yep - meant Swarm 541
22:17.10scgallafentIt was an only an issue if you logged in as user A, completed some test cases, logged out, and then logged in as user B.
22:17.17scgallafentThat's not a likely scenario for production use.
22:17.52KFitzunless it was a roomate coming in to use the computer while the browser was left on and then went to swarm
22:18.08KFitzor spouse
22:18.25scgallafentMy roommate doesn't mess with my computer much. She gets her own.
22:18.41KFitzsame ;)
22:20.49scgallafentis about ready for a break
22:20.55scgallafentBack in a bit
22:28.56smootarLDSTech Team what systems are critical for monitoring for all of the LDSTech Systems?
22:29.07smootartech.lds.org is for sure one.
22:29.11smootartech.lds.org/jira
22:29.31smootartech.lds.org/swarm - does jira and swarm need to be monitored seperately?
22:29.34KFitztoo late... Document submitted
22:29.43smootarWhat ever.
22:29.47KFitztrue
22:30.04smootarOK, submit it again.
22:30.16KFitzsorry I had to have it in
22:30.24KFitzand they didnt want subsites
22:30.28KFitzjust products
22:30.35KFitzso tech.lds.org was fine
22:30.38smootarok
22:30.47KFitzits VERY general
22:31.00smootarJira is on a different server, would Howard O. be monitoring those?
22:31.07smootarOr SVN?
22:31.09KFitzfrankly its kinda dumb ;)
22:31.17smootarWho is the list for?
22:31.19KFitzbecause I'm not sure what they are even asking...
22:31.25smootarhmmmm
22:31.30KFitzCome to my office.. I dont want it Googleable ;)
22:31.36smootarOK.
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