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| 15:00.12 | ekeating | ~meetstart <LDSTech Dev Scrum> |
| 15:00.12 | infobot | ********** Start of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.08.08 15:00:12 ********** |
| 15:00.15 | ekeating | Good Morning. |
| 15:00.26 | ekeating | Who's on today? |
| 15:00.28 | TurboLDS | Moin |
| 15:00.28 | scgallafent | Moin |
| 15:00.32 | fullmercb | hi |
| 15:00.51 | ekeating | TurboLDS, let's stat with you today |
| 15:00.55 | cpitt | morning |
| 15:01.11 | tdeforest | howdy |
| 15:02.08 | zakzakattack | moin |
| 15:02.37 | ekeating | we'l give TurboLDS a chance to get organized. cpitt let's here from you |
| 15:02.55 | cpitt | revisited swarm-588 |
| 15:03.11 | cpitt | researched framworks for the matchmaking system |
| 15:03.17 | TurboLDS | Sorry, had to turn on the water... |
| 15:03.41 | cpitt | going to be diving into my LDSTech tickets today that is all |
| 15:04.07 | TurboLDS | Finished swarm-585, heading back to swarm-550. |
| 15:05.02 | TurboLDS | That's all. |
| 15:05.22 | ekeating | thanks TurboLDS |
| 15:05.28 | ekeating | scgallafent, ? |
| 15:05.33 | scgallafent | Yesterday: |
| 15:05.34 | scgallafent | * Finished https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-592 and assigned to Elder zakzakattack for testing. |
| 15:05.34 | scgallafent | * Identified a list of PHP frameworks to investigate. |
| 15:05.34 | scgallafent | Today: |
| 15:05.34 | scgallafent | * Working on https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-544 |
| 15:05.34 | ekeating | thanks cpitt |
| 15:05.34 | scgallafent | * Start testing PHP frameworks |
| 15:05.36 | scgallafent | That is all. |
| 15:05.53 | zakzakattack | saw that, thanks |
| 15:05.56 | ekeating | thank you |
| 15:06.03 | ekeating | tdeforest, ? |
| 15:06.15 | tdeforest | ## Notes field (see files attached to 588) |
| 15:06.15 | tdeforest | - cpitt worked out the bugs and assigned to me. Now it will get a little more style. |
| 15:06.15 | tdeforest | ## Talent matching |
| 15:06.15 | tdeforest | - Sent mockups to scgallafent and cpitt |
| 15:06.15 | tdeforest | - Started designing the front-end architecture. I've decided to go with Twitter Bootstrap. This will make it easy to build a responsive interface that works well across many platforms and browsers. This will require some use of LESS in addition to CSS in our front-end dev work. LESS is a dynamic CSS-based language that can handle variables, mixins, functions, and other awesomeness. It's a bit of a learning curve but will give m |
| 15:06.19 | tdeforest | e a lot of control over the interface. I am excited about this step. LESS is enough like CSS that new comers and volunteers will be able to pick it up. |
| 15:06.43 | tdeforest | i'll spend some more time on front-end architecture and talent matching mockups today |
| 15:07.03 | fullmercb | what's LESS? |
| 15:07.08 | fullmercb | nevermind - |
| 15:07.21 | tdeforest | http://lesscss.org |
| 15:07.45 | ekeating | less is more...I guess |
| 15:07.54 | tdeforest | indeed |
| 15:08.07 | tdeforest | that's all |
| 15:08.15 | ekeating | thanks tdeforest |
| 15:08.20 | ekeating | fullmercb, ? |
| 15:08.23 | fullmercb | Yesterday: Jira, CSM processing, and met with our new QA lead for LDSTech – Elder Hansen. Introduced him to our tools & started training him on his responsibilities. Today: design work with tdeforest if I can get time, Jira work (create & assign more tasks for new system), and more CSM stuff. With us losing Brittney, and with Alan and Elder Sierakowski out, the CSM stuff is all on me |
| 15:08.42 | fullmercb | that's it for me |
| 15:09.07 | ekeating | zakzakattack, ? |
| 15:09.17 | ekeating | thanks fullmercb |
| 15:10.12 | zakzakattack | Um. dint get that job I intervied for. :( i have about 4 of 5 resolved test ccases to take care of and that is all for me |
| 15:10.22 | zakzakattack | didnt* |
| 15:10.56 | ekeating | bummer. But thanks for the report. |
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| 15:11.15 | ekeating | anyone else have something they want to report? |
| 15:11.56 | tdeforest | sorry to hear that zakzakattack |
| 15:12.23 | zakzakattack | Its all right im not suprised . it was a long shot |
| 15:12.38 | TurboLDS | One statistic closer to the one who will hire you! |
| 15:12.46 | fullmercb | yeah - zakzakattack -- every interview is good practice though |
| 15:13.16 | ekeating | Okay, then, we'll go ahead and end this meeting and get on with the day. |
| 15:13.20 | ekeating | ~meetend <LDSTech Dev Scrum> |
| 15:13.20 | infobot | ********** End of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.08.08 15:13:20 ********** |
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| 15:14.11 | zakzakattack | thanks |
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| 15:17.16 | tdeforest | my badge works again. yay! |
| 15:17.33 | zakzakattack | YAY! |
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| 15:40.38 | zakzakattack | when editing a test case , did you guys decide to keep the save and cancel buttons? |
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| 16:50.48 | ChadF | scgallafent, when do you think you'll be ready to start working on the DB schema for the new system? |
| 16:51.19 | scgallafent | I'll do a little bit of work on it in the next day or so. Solving the framework question is higher priority. |
| 17:04.36 | josephscott | scgallafent: have ICS security scan every PHP framework first and see what shows up :-) |
| 17:04.47 | scgallafent | josephscott, good thought! |
| 17:05.01 | josephscott | since you know you'll have to deal with that fight anyway |
| 17:05.53 | scgallafent | I'm building a little test app with the final candidates. I'll scan them in the process. |
| 17:07.56 | josephscott | which ones are on the consideration list? |
| 17:08.16 | josephscott | I imagine only being able to use really, really old versions of PHP in prod would limit the options |
| 17:10.53 | ChadF | good suggestion josephscott re: the security scan |
| 17:13.22 | scgallafent | josephscott, I've got copies of Laravel, Kohana, and CodeIgniter in various stages of configuration. |
| 17:13.45 | josephscott | do those work with versions of PHP in prod? |
| 17:13.57 | scgallafent | That's on my list of things to test. |
| 17:14.01 | josephscott | I recall Laravel not working last time because of PHP version issues |
| 17:14.35 | scgallafent | We're running 5.2.5 in production, but working to upgrade that server. |
| 17:14.59 | cpitt | Tim should be doing the prod move shortly |
| 17:15.01 | scgallafent | The current dev server is at 5.3.3. |
| 17:16.28 | scgallafent | We've also got three non-public frameworks we can use, but there would be some benefit to using an existing open-source framework. |
| 17:16.47 | josephscott | that will definitely, brings PHP to just over two years old |
| 17:16.56 | scgallafent | :) |
| 17:17.02 | josephscott | s/definitely/definitely help/ |
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| 17:17.53 | scgallafent | Laravel won the prize for being the smallest download. |
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| 17:18.42 | cpitt | just checked the new prod server 5.3.3 |
| 17:18.51 | josephscott | I've got a /dev/null file you can download, guaranteed to be smaller than any PHP framework you've tried so far |
| 17:19.41 | scgallafent | Probably so, but I suspect it will fall apart when I start testing functionality. |
| 17:19.48 | scgallafent | Should fare pretty well on the Fortify scan! |
| 17:32.00 | josephscott | it eats Fortify scans for lunch |
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| 17:44.50 | scgallafent | For the curious and josephscott, Laravel comes out of the security scan with 2 high priority issues, 1 low priority issue, all non-issues. |
| 17:49.56 | LDSTech | Laravel? |
| 17:50.12 | scgallafent | http://laravel.com/ |
| 17:54.57 | cpitt | still running the others? |
| 17:54.58 | cpitt | scgallafent, How'd CI and Kohana fare? |
| 17:55.11 | scgallafent | Haven't run them through the scanner yet. |
| 17:55.20 | scgallafent | I'll run them now and see. |
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| 18:04.46 | scgallafent | cpitt, here are the scan numbers: |
| 18:04.54 | scgallafent | CodeIgniter: 4 / 31 / 1 / 44 |
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| 18:04.59 | scgallafent | Kohana 4 / 13 / 1 / 58 |
| 18:05.09 | scgallafent | Laravel: 0 / 2 / 0 / 1 |
| 18:05.20 | scgallafent | Numbers are critical / high / medium / low issues |
| 18:05.36 | josephscott | will be interesting to see how many of those issues are legit |
| 18:05.39 | scgallafent | The Laravel list was small enough I looked through the issues and found all three are non-issues. |
| 18:05.51 | scgallafent | Haven't looked at the others. |
| 18:07.11 | cpitt | other than the ORM have you found anything compelling that would give Kohana an edge over CI? |
| 18:08.43 | scgallafent | Not yet, but I've just started digging. |
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| 19:10.39 | TimRiker | server move in progress. expect a brief outage |
| 19:14.22 | TimRiker | site is up again, but logins are broken |
| 19:14.28 | TimRiker | jira is down |
| 19:26.31 | TimRiker | jira is back, still can't login for some reason... |
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| 19:35.11 | ChadF | TimRiker, looks like talent pool is down |
| 19:35.15 | ChadF | server move? |
| 19:35.45 | TimRiker | server move, yes. not sure what's broken. copied all the data from sles to rhel, repointed f5. |
| 19:36.05 | TimRiker | most things work, but wiki is painfully slow, and /projects link does not work, etc. |
| 19:39.20 | TimRiker | missing htaccess.txt include. added. k, anything broken that we can see now? |
| 19:58.35 | TimRiker | wiki is painfully slow still. not sure why. |
| 20:13.29 | ChadF | TimRiker, once the move is done & things are working ok - please ping me, I need your help with a few questions relating to the mormon.org swarm emails I am workign on sending out |
| 20:28.04 | cpitt | ChadF, is this part of the new matchmaking system? LDSTECH-826 |
| 20:28.43 | ChadF | yes - |
| 20:28.50 | ChadF | I'll move it |
| 20:29.04 | cpitt | k thnx |
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| 20:31.36 | ChadF | done |
| 20:32.02 | cpitt | ChadF, tdeforest, https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-820, what needs to be done with this now that the design work is done? |
| 20:32.34 | tdeforest | cpitt, you and i need to discuss how to implement |
| 20:32.55 | ChadF | we need a place for alan to post the hours each week/month |
| 20:33.10 | ChadF | a field for him to input that & go back and edit it later |
| 20:33.32 | cpitt | a single field or a field for each moth |
| 20:33.36 | cpitt | month*? |
| 20:34.44 | ChadF | need a way for him to enter or edit hrs for each month |
| 20:35.57 | cpitt | hmm I'll come over, to discuss the options. |
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| 21:25.32 | tdeforest | cpitt`afk, i'm going to assign 588 back to you for one final detail - the notes need to be limited to 160 characters also. |
| 21:30.42 | cpitt | k |
| 21:49.05 | cpitt | ChadF, how many hours are we saying are in a day? |
| 21:49.47 | ChadF | 8 |
| 21:57.25 | tdeforest | how is my math? |
| 22:03.11 | ChadF | TimRiker, ? |
| 22:03.14 | ChadF | u there? |
| 22:11.58 | ChadF | TimRiker, dlhace: I'm in prod joomla, tried to join the Accecibility project, and it took over 30 seconds to process my request to join & show me confirmation (and send me welcome email) |
| 22:12.08 | ChadF | is this also slow due to the server work? |
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| 22:44.20 | TimRiker | wiki was trying to hit memcached which was not set to autostart, nor was is running. :( |
| 22:44.32 | TimRiker | I fixed both of those and the wiki is much faster |
| 22:46.08 | tdeforest | nice |
| 22:46.31 | TimRiker | anything else we know to be broken? |
| 22:46.54 | tdeforest | US gov't |
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| 22:52.04 | TimRiker | anything I can fix? |