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15:50.23smootarLDSTechMK802_: Are you around?
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15:51.19smootarmoin TimRiker
15:51.43smootarmoin scgallafent
15:51.48TimRikermoin. sick kid, so I'm home for the meeting. wife will be home soon and then I'll head in.
15:51.51scgallafentmoin
15:51.57smootarnods
15:52.14smootarHave you had other sick kids, or is this the first?
15:52.48smootarThis is the time of year to spread sickness through schools and family.
15:54.32TimRikermostly been ok this season
15:58.50smootar:)
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16:00.14ekeating~meetstart <LDSTech Dev Scrum>
16:00.14infobot********** Start of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.11.16 16:00:14 **********
16:00.24ekeatinghappy Friday everyone
16:00.40smootarmoin ekeating
16:00.47scgallafentMoin
16:00.48TimRikermoin
16:01.05smootarmoin zakzakattack
16:01.11ekeatingTimRiker, let's start with your report
16:01.17zakzakattackmoin
16:01.49TimRikergot stuck in some CWS again yesterday. They are now up and running for review by the contries before they bring all the old VIPs back live.
16:02.07TimRikerstill hoping to finish up installer today and push it to cdev for testing.
16:02.22smootarsays yay on the installer. :)
16:02.30TimRikerhome with sick kid this morning, in soon.
16:02.35TimRikerthat is all
16:02.36smootarcrossing fingers.
16:02.56ekeatinghope your kid feels better  :)
16:02.59ekeatingthanks
16:03.04ekeatingscgallafent, your turn
16:03.11scgallafentFinished https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-891 and assigned to ekeating for testing
16:03.11scgallafentWorking on https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-883 and should have that done in a few minutes
16:03.34scgallafentWill work on cleaning up any last items for LDSTech update so that we can release as soon as phpBB is ready.
16:03.42scgallafentThat is all.
16:03.51ekeatingsounds great, thanks
16:04.01ekeatingsmootar, your input
16:04.11smootarIs phpbb ready now?
16:04.22smootarI missed yesterday.
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16:04.37scgallafentI'm not sure how much cpitt has left to do. We still need to do some testing on it.
16:05.02smootarFitz and zakzakattack may be able to help?
16:05.10zakzakattackyes i can
16:05.24smootarWe should also get our moderators to look at it.
16:05.25scgallafentReally needs to be Alan Brown and company.
16:05.31ekeatingHaven't heard from cpitt in a couple of days.  Is he sending emails to you smootar ?
16:05.42FitzI missed the beginning what am I helping with?
16:05.46smootarI would like them to sign off before we deploy.
16:05.59smootarAlong with Fitz
16:06.13smootarphpbb fitz and the next release of LDSTech.
16:06.18scgallafentI'll bet we could get some forum users to help test, too.
16:06.21smootarphpbb is a big part of the release.
16:06.24FitzI wont be much help
16:06.26smootarI haven't heard from cpitt.
16:06.34FitzI am getting tagged hard by both of my PD's
16:07.03smootarFitz, what do you recommend on QA of LDSTech?
16:07.15Fitzgetting a QA engineer ;)
16:07.18ekeatingI told cpitt that I would be gone the next 3 weeks and to send his reports directly to you, so I wasn;t sure if he started that already.
16:07.28smootarWe should be closing issues out and getting ready for deployment.
16:07.41smootarahhhh
16:07.46smootarI will contact him.
16:08.15ekeatingzakzakattack, any report on your side?
16:08.45smootar<PROTECTED>
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16:09.03TimRikerXoom2sry. windows box decided to rebot
16:09.04smootarTimRikerXoom2: is back!
16:09.08zakzakattacklots of community hours latley. I will help with what you guys need help with
16:09.16smootar:)
16:09.35TimRikerXoom2might be time to post on ldstech to get folks to test phpbb
16:09.37ekeatingthanks zakzakattack
16:09.50smootarthinks we should make sure that all missionaries are getting reported in some way back to zakzakattack
16:10.08smootarMaybe VickiHaws could help make sure all are covered. :)
16:10.29smootarzakzakattack: Did VickiHaws computer just ding?
16:10.38ekeatingare there any other issues to discuss before we close?
16:10.48TimRikerXoom2saw comments on the team sorting...
16:10.53zakzakattackyes it did
16:11.02scgallafentTimRiker, I'll have that fixed shortly.
16:11.05smootarMoving audit issues assigned to me to next release.  They are moving forward, but are not done for this release.
16:11.13TimRikerXoom2we display preferred name wich might be in any order.
16:11.19scgallafentAlready changed.
16:11.37ekeatingI'll test that today
16:11.43smootarscgallafent: I just moved the sort issue to you.  Is that something you were going to do?
16:11.49scgallafentYes.
16:11.56VickiHawsAnything I can do to help!
16:12.01scgallafentName display is now Last, First.
16:12.05scgallafentSorting should be working shortly.
16:12.10TimRikerXoom2the issue is just the broken sort by role
16:12.32smootar:)
16:12.33TimRikerXoom2scgallafent: thatbeaks peopke that don't use their first name
16:12.37ekeatingI couldn't figure out what it might be sorting on
16:13.13smootarVickiHaws: maybe you could make sure all active missionaries are accounted for in zakzakattack 's report.
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16:13.41zakzakattack*she left her computer
16:13.50smootarCan we really handle two?  TimRikerXoom2 TimRiker
16:14.11scgallafentRole sorting is funky. I'm fixing that so it will sort alphabetically by role. There was an issue created to change name display to Last, First. That is done.
16:14.15ekeatingIt is Friday after all ;)
16:14.22smootarOK, maybe just connect with her.
16:14.35TimRikerback on the win box...
16:14.42smootar:)
16:15.10TimRikerscgallafent, we display the user preferred name. so if their name is derek john smith, and they go by john. we see john, not derek.
16:15.17TimRikerso we sort by their preferred name.
16:15.34TimRikerif we list last, first   we will have upset users that never use their first name.
16:15.44scgallafenthttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-891
16:15.57TimRikerit is _supposed_ to display preferred name. not last, first. as last, first is broken.
16:16.33smootarWhen cpitt says he is ready for all out testing, I will get our moderators engaged to help us confirm that everything is working for them before we deploy.  Waiting for cpitt 's to let me know.
16:16.33scgallafentThen SomeoneĀ™ needs to decide if I should change it back.
16:16.52TimRikerwe should close that as will not fix.
16:17.01smootarI will let you know Fitz when I hear from him.
16:17.19ekeatingcould we sort by last, preferred?
16:17.22TimRikerekeating, where did this request come from?
16:17.31smootarWas it showing preferred name before?
16:17.44TimRikerwe could list last,first as invisible text and still sort by that, but it will be confusing.
16:18.04scgallafentsmootar, yes.
16:18.15TimRikerie deric "john" smith will sort before henry smith
16:18.36smootarThe two main things for this release are the phpBB, and the new web Installer (TestFlight replacement).
16:18.53ekeatingwe should sgtay focused on those
16:19.01TimRiker"preferredname" includes the complete name. there is no preferredgivenname
16:19.02ekeatingsgtay = stay
16:19.50ekeatingokay TimRiker we can leave it "as is" .  It's not a big deal.
16:19.52TimRikerso deric john smith might just list "john" as preferred name. or he might list "bubba" for all we know.
16:20.07TimRikersounds like we want it "as was", not "as is"
16:20.18ekeating:)
16:20.33scgallafentI can roll it back after I commit the changes I'm working on.
16:20.48ekeatingthanks scgallafent
16:21.34TimRikerpreferred name might be "smith, deric john" or "john" or "john smith" or "deric _john_ smith" etc. we have no idea how the user wants their name displayed.
16:21.34ekeatingsounds like too much effort to come up with a different approach
16:21.46TimRikerit could include java script and chinese even.
16:21.47ekeatingIf there isn't anything else, we'll close for the day.  Hope you have a great weekend
16:22.25ekeatingokay TimRiker you've convinced us :-)
16:22.29smootarFitz: have you seen dlhace today? Could you remind him that we need the CAPZ complete with the latest web services (MLU) put in that zone so that CODA can deprecate the use of the old version of MLU?
16:22.38TimRikerscgallafent, ok. I wish I had a better option, but I can't think of one. sort by preferred name, and allow limiting in the search box. that's the best I've come up with.
16:22.43smootarThat will be the focus of our next release.
16:23.18ekeatingthanks TimRiker appreciate your input
16:23.29TimRikerthx for listening. :)
16:24.01smootarscgallafent: and TimRiker will do the right thing for sort, I'm confident of that. :)
16:24.02TimRikerwish we had a cldsaccount.lds.org to change user settings in the cdmz
16:24.12ekeatingthat's what I do  heh heh
16:24.30smootar:)
16:24.36smootarI'm done
16:24.47ekeatingthanks smootar
16:25.04smootar:)
16:25.13ekeatingdon't forget I may, or may not, be here next week.  Don't know yet
16:25.22ekeating~meetend <LDSTech Dev Scrum>
16:25.22infobot********** End of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.11.16 16:25:22 **********
16:25.29smootarekeating: could you send me a note on your schedule?
16:25.59smootarI would like to put it on my calendar.
16:26.16smootarekeating gone again. :)
16:26.49TimRikerscgallafent, ekeating noticed that he could not return to the original sort order. I'm not sure how we're sorted to begin with.
16:31.59scgallafentTimRiker, the sorting on role is "funky" -- at least for a little bit longer.
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16:33.38TimRikeryeah. I didn't look into why it's off. I expect we need to provide some info to datatables to use the right part of the DOM.
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16:34.31scgallafentYup.
16:34.36TimRikeradded my thouhts to https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-891
16:34.46TimRikers/thouhts/thoughts/
16:35.04TimRikerk. headed in. back online in a bit
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18:27.26scgallafentTimRiker, getting error from cdev. Is it working for you?
18:27.35scgallafentNever mind. Problem went away. Ugh.
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19:04.14scgallafentWho is he?
19:04.36TimRikerhe's over the country web sites. I'm not sure where exactly he fits in the org.
19:05.15scgallafentOK. He probably needs to coordinate with the Australia Country Service Center, since it's their project.
19:05.34TimRikeryes. I think he does that already for the austrailia country site.
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19:06.01TimRikerhmm. which we didn't bring back up yet apparently. :/
19:07.51TimRikerI think the au site is deprecated now, and they are actually using the lds.org country sites? http://www.lds.org.au/?lang=eng&country=au
19:28.46scgallafentTimRiker, that is correct. They've been using the lds.org.au site for a while.
19:29.21TimRikerit used to be that lds.org.au pointed to a joomla site. now it points to a mark logic site. that's what I was referring to
19:30.12scgallafentThe MarkLogic site is what I meant.
19:30.14TimRikerlds.org.in is supposed to point to the joomla site, but currently redirects to www.lds.org instead.
19:30.16TimRikernods
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