00:00.41 | TimRiker | cpitt, what's needed to pickup a change to styles/ldstech_fluid/theme/LDSTech_header.css ? |
00:10.41 | TimRiker | fixed ie view. |
00:21.46 | johnsonth | Okay, why would I want to add someone as a foe on the forum? Not sure what that really does. |
00:22.46 | TimRiker | heh. dunno. |
00:22.57 | TimRiker | open a jira to consider removing that "feature" |
01:01.26 | cpitt | I'm back, but I imagine that everyone is gone now |
01:06.11 | cpitt | The search has finally finished indexing |
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02:03.14 | cpitt | Disabled the friend & foe feature in phpbb |
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15:59.59 | smootar | ~meetstart LDSTech Scrum |
16:00.00 | infobot | ********** Start of the LDSTech Scrum Meeting on 2012.12.12 16:00:00 ********** |
16:00.05 | TimRiker | yawn |
16:00.13 | smootar | Good moon, stretch. |
16:00.20 | smootar | moin not moon |
16:00.23 | smootar | :) |
16:00.27 | smootar | Who is here? |
16:00.29 | TimRiker | =P |
16:00.55 | smootar | d:) |
16:01.08 | smootar | TimRiker: is it just us? |
16:01.24 | TimRiker | perhaps. scgallafent is online, but dunno if afk or not. |
16:01.29 | smootar | I see zakzakattack and scgallafent |
16:01.36 | scgallafent | is here. |
16:01.40 | scgallafent | Just not looking at clock. |
16:01.41 | smootar | RussellHltn: is still here too. |
16:01.45 | smootar | :) |
16:02.06 | smootar | cpitt: Are you here? |
16:02.16 | TimRiker | reading through phpbb posts from last night. migration went pretty smoothly, some things were found after the move. cpitt has been working on some. I hope he opens jira tickets on the others. |
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16:02.45 | smootar | cpitt: Please open tickets on all items that you are working on. |
16:02.52 | TimRiker | cpitt, was online posting on the forums less than 7 hours ago, so I hope he's sleeping. |
16:02.58 | smootar | We want a record of the work that gets done for phpbb. |
16:03.04 | TimRiker | nods |
16:03.13 | smootar | Even stuff that you have already fixed, I would appreciate a one liner stating the work. |
16:03.33 | smootar | So cpitt had his last final yesterday, he should be around later. |
16:03.56 | smootar | Say cpitt a couple of times makes his computer ding maybe. |
16:03.56 | smootar | :) |
16:04.25 | TimRiker | worth a read: https://tech.lds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14460 |
16:04.45 | smootar | We may just need to keep working through items. aebrown and RussellHltn should also provide input as the moderate. As well as the other moderators. |
16:04.54 | smootar | Thanks for all of the testing and migration work that was done. |
16:05.04 | scgallafent | Not authorized (authorised) to read this form? Ugh. |
16:05.23 | TimRiker | hmm. that's an admin channel. are you not an admin? |
16:05.36 | scgallafent | I wasn't, but I thought I fixed that yesterday. |
16:05.37 | smootar | ~give scgallafent authorization |
16:05.37 | infobot | ACTION gives authorization to scgallafent |
16:05.53 | smootar | :) |
16:06.03 | scgallafent | If only it were that easy. |
16:06.07 | smootar | ok, TimRiker can you give scgallafent authorization? |
16:06.12 | TimRiker | try now |
16:06.13 | smootar | Make sure he is in the group? |
16:06.26 | scgallafent | Muchly better. |
16:06.32 | smootar | :) |
16:07.28 | TimRiker | overall things went really really well. most people probably did not even notice the change. |
16:07.48 | smootar | TimRiker: Do you have any other updates? |
16:08.05 | TimRiker | there are some differences between the two, but I'm really pleased with the migration. |
16:08.12 | smootar | Moderators are the ones with the most discussion items about the change. |
16:08.21 | TimRiker | smootar, I'll hope to get to the installer jira tickets today. :) |
16:08.41 | smootar | eggcellent |
16:08.46 | TimRiker | I love the wide screen view. wish it were the default |
16:08.56 | smootar | nods |
16:09.10 | TimRiker | course I wish the same for joomla and wiki. |
16:09.27 | smootar | scgallafent: ? |
16:09.37 | scgallafent | * Testing on phpBB deploy yesterday. |
16:09.38 | scgallafent | * Worked on setting up CPAS staging instance. |
16:09.38 | scgallafent | Everything appears to be working. Finishing up a couple of final changes and I'll have them start testing today. |
16:09.38 | scgallafent | * Spent some time with Simon Phillips and Jed Black to get them started working on Fortify issues. |
16:09.38 | scgallafent | I walked through how to resolve an XSS issue from start (find it, analyze code) through creating in JIRA, changing the code, and committing. |
16:09.41 | scgallafent | The issue we identified and fixed cleared 30 outstanding items in BSIR. |
16:09.43 | scgallafent | * New Fortify scans have been uploaded and chart updated |
16:09.46 | scgallafent | Going to work on the CPAS change today and also cleaning up RecProp code. |
16:09.47 | scgallafent | Still need to chat with smootar about git stats. |
16:09.49 | scgallafent | If you want to see my thoughts, I sent them as a PM yesterday and they should be in your history. |
16:10.16 | scgallafent | That is all. |
16:10.23 | smootar | thx scgallafent |
16:10.37 | smootar | I saw the notes. |
16:10.44 | scgallafent | OK |
16:10.48 | smootar | I will call you after this meeting. |
16:10.54 | scgallafent | Double OK |
16:10.59 | smootar | if I don't get interrupted. |
16:11.01 | smootar | :) |
16:11.14 | scgallafent | I'll be here all day. |
16:11.23 | smootar | or all night. |
16:11.24 | smootar | :) |
16:11.33 | smootar | zakzakattack: any updates? |
16:12.08 | zakzakattack | Nope not much scense yesterday |
16:12.13 | smootar | thx |
16:12.30 | smootar | This afternoon we are going to discuss the Match making stuff. |
16:13.01 | smootar | We would like to make some progress on the design so that we can determine next steps. |
16:13.15 | TimRiker | recprop is having a tech meeting on ldsedit today. hope to learn more |
16:13.15 | smootar | I think most of you are planning to attend. |
16:13.51 | smootar | Does the recprop meeting conflict with our afternoon Design meeting? |
16:14.54 | smootar | I'm assuming the recprop work is really in a supporting role as we help them get their project up and running with LDSTech Missionaries. |
16:15.04 | scgallafent | Yes on the supporting role. |
16:15.05 | TimRiker | smootar, nope, just before |
16:15.12 | smootar | cool. |
16:15.19 | smootar | We are done, thanks for everyones work. |
16:15.24 | scgallafent | remembers having a RecProp meeting with the LDS Edit team once before |
16:15.28 | smootar | ~meetend LDSTech scrum. |
16:15.28 | infobot | ********** End of the LDSTech scrum. Meeting on 2012.12.12 16:15:28 ********** |
16:15.38 | smootar | fun meeting scgallafent ? |
16:15.56 | smootar | LDS Edit is for content. It isn't to build applications. :) |
16:16.04 | scgallafent | Correct. |
16:16.14 | scgallafent | It was an interesting meeting. It will probably be less interesting the second time. |
16:16.15 | smootar | It should be another fun discussion. |
16:16.16 | TimRiker | scgallafent, this is supposed to be more technical. we'll see |
16:16.30 | smootar | nods |
16:16.39 | scgallafent | Where's josephscott when I need to give him a hard time? |
16:16.55 | smootar | calls scgallafent |
16:18.00 | scgallafent | For the curious, the meeting was on May 11, 2011. :) |
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16:35.24 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=97855#p97855 |
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17:45.54 | scgallafent | TimRiker, I don't have the RecProp LDS Edit meeting on my calendar. Is it today? |
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18:02.14 | TimRiker | scgallafent, forwarded |
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18:02.21 | scgallafent | Thanks. |
18:03.00 | scgallafent | <PROTECTED> |
18:04.00 | TimRiker | sure |
18:09.11 | johnsonth_ | smootar, scgallafent, timriker, and cpitt: I have a draft of the LDSTech article about the new forum software. When you get a chance, can you check it out and let me know if you have any changes? https://tech.lds.org/blog/549-new-ldstech-forum-software |
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18:10.57 | TimRiker | johnsonth_, you saw my legend message? |
18:11.21 | johnsonth_ | TimRiker, yes, I included the screenshot from that thread. Very helpful. |
18:11.23 | TimRiker | johnsonth_, https://tech.lds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14468 |
18:11.51 | scgallafent | johnsonth_, looks good. Nothing there that makes me pause. |
18:12.03 | johnsonth_ | I did read through the moderator threads to see if there were major points to cover. |
18:12.05 | TimRiker | k. I did a few updates to my legend. |
18:12.18 | johnsonth_ | TimRiker: you made that legend? |
18:12.51 | TimRiker | johnsonth_, imported from another board, and I added some new info. going to add the optional message icons too. |
18:14.01 | johnsonth_ | TimRiker: Great, send it over when you finish it and I'll update the screenshot. |
18:14.27 | TimRiker | johnsonth_, going to mention the available LDSTech-fluid style? |
18:16.01 | TimRiker | ah.. there is a note ther in the consistency paragraph. Might enhance that to mention the specific thing to change. |
18:16.16 | johnsonth_ | I'll mention the fluid style more directly there. |
18:16.58 | TimRiker | User Control Panel->Board preferences->My board style->LDSTech-fluid |
18:17.15 | TimRiker | we'll be able to see how many choose that to get a feel for if people like it. |
18:17.30 | johnsonth_ | agreed. |
18:18.34 | TimRiker | cpitt, posted about getting a feed. you mention an icon for that. I don't see the icon? where do I find that? |
18:18.49 | TimRiker | I didn't think we were exposing it in the current theme? |
18:19.12 | johnsonth_ | you don't see it in your browser address bar? I was using Chrome. |
18:19.28 | johnsonth_ | maybe I'll have to revist that section. the feeds are turned on. |
18:20.50 | TimRiker | I'm not seeing it. where do you see it in chrome? trying chrome... hmm. still not seeing it. perhaps I'm blind. |
18:21.40 | johnsonth_ | Maybe I have an extension or something that exposes it. I don't see it in Firefox. |
18:21.54 | johnsonth_ | BTW, I'll add more detail about the symbols as you've posted here: http://tech.lds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14468&sid=77aa4c20f391a54b05724279f5d5f681 |
18:23.51 | johnsonth_ | TimRiker: just sent you a screenshot. |
18:24.33 | TimRiker | ah. must be an extension. I don't see that even in chrome. |
18:25.53 | johnsonth_ | It's probably my "RSS subscription Extension (by Google)." |
18:26.29 | johnsonth_ | it would be neat to expose the feeds in the interface. Most readers have auto-discovery of feeds, but users may not realize that the forum and subforum actually have feeds. |
18:26.51 | johnsonth_ | product mgrs should really subscribe to the subforums for their products. |
18:26.53 | TimRiker | smootar, Victoriacole re-enabled the .net stack link on the wiki home page. I don't know why it was disabled. thoughts? |
18:27.28 | johnsonth_ | I thought I saw a note from Alan Brown about that. |
18:27.43 | TimRiker | johnsonth_, agreed. cpitt was planning to look into exposing that. I'll re-enable the stock skin and look there... |
18:27.45 | smootar | I tried to find out who that was, is she an employee or volunteer? |
18:27.51 | TimRiker | dunno |
18:28.01 | johnsonth_ | employee |
18:28.04 | TimRiker | ahh. employee |
18:28.06 | johnsonth_ | I asked her to create her user page. |
18:28.09 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/wiki/User:Victoriacole |
18:28.15 | smootar | nods |
18:28.31 | smootar | intern |
18:28.32 | TimRiker | johnsonth_, nice. information right where I looked for it. :) |
18:28.33 | johnsonth_ | hey, we talked about this a while ago, but can we pass in the email address to the wiki profiles? otherwise there's no way to contact users who make edits. |
18:28.34 | smootar | cool. |
18:28.54 | smootar | She is moving docs from SharePoint to the Wiki. |
18:29.02 | smootar | for the .Net stack. |
18:29.03 | johnsonth_ | i usually just type their wiki user name into outlook, and half the time it connects with a real employee's username. |
18:29.16 | johnsonth_ | that's fine with me. |
18:29.18 | TimRiker | johnsonth_, I don't recall if there is a jira on that. we should update the email when you make changes on your joomla profile page. I don't think we do that at present. |
18:29.44 | smootar | I think they are getting matched up with what the Java Stack are doing for Docs. |
18:30.38 | TimRiker | forum does not use the ldstech favicon. |
18:31.16 | johnsonth_ | TimRiker: what solution would you use to find out who someone like Fgabriel is? look at the recent changes. |
18:31.44 | TimRiker | hmm. wiki is not showing the favicon either |
18:31.52 | johnsonth_ | if Fgabriel or someone else unknown makes a lot of edits, or if a page has a specific person who made a lot of edits, and we want to contact the person to find out if the content is up to date or not, there needs to be a way to contact the person. |
18:32.19 | johnsonth_ | you made me think a lot about the ldstech wiki yesterday. |
18:32.44 | TimRiker | not seeing fgabriel. wiki recent changes? |
18:32.54 | johnsonth_ | http://tech.lds.org/wiki/Main_Page?action=history |
18:32.56 | TimRiker | johnsonth_, is that good or bad? :) |
18:33.14 | johnsonth_ | If we want to audit the wiki content, we'll need a way of contacting some page owners. |
18:33.33 | johnsonth_ | sorry for my incoherence. am in a meeting so am task-switching right now. i'll articulate this later. |
18:35.02 | TimRiker | johnsonth_, agreed. joomla admin page will get you user details _if_ they are registered in joomla _and_ you're a joomla admin. |
18:35.32 | TimRiker | we should talk about what admin/moderation tools we can do that would be useful. |
18:36.46 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fgabriel |
18:37.57 | TimRiker | the employees group on the wiki should be auto-filled out. |
18:38.41 | TimRiker | there could be a moderation queue for non-member edits |
18:46.29 | VickiHaws | smooterar - I am sending out one more reminder to the CSM for the luncheon on the 19th - you mentioned there was a certain way they would need to call in to be part of the detional, what is it? I was going to ask them to dail in at 12:30 MST. |
18:49.43 | TimRiker | scgallafent, stephan reports his wife could not accept the ICLA last night. |
18:50.01 | scgallafent | Yes. I saw a note about it on the forum from someone else and am looking into it. |
18:50.41 | TimRiker | cool. open a jira ? :) |
18:50.57 | TimRiker | stephan cannot install ios apps on some devices. not sure why. |
18:51.14 | scgallafent | reads through message for the past 30 minutes or so |
18:51.33 | scgallafent | johnsonth_, I think the email address is set when the wiki profile is first created. I don't think it is updated after that. |
18:51.36 | TimRiker | there might be old cookies in the ios installer that I need to remove before adding the new pathed version? dunno. |
18:52.17 | TimRiker | scgallafent, johnsonth_, that's my understanding too. some wiki accounts get created with _no_ email. and I'm not sure why that is either. |
18:52.45 | scgallafent | I'll create one when I get into it in a bit. Beating on a CPAS issue right now. |
18:52.48 | TimRiker | I opened a jira on the Special:ChangeEmail page |
18:52.54 | TimRiker | k |
18:53.15 | scgallafent | goes back to his code editor |
18:53.29 | TimRiker | lunches |
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19:49.59 | johnsonth_ | scgallafent, timriker, sorry, just got out of my meeting. |
19:50.15 | johnsonth_ | we were talking about the email address field in wiki profiles. |
19:50.27 | johnsonth_ | looking in JIRA, I see that scgallafent already completed the item. https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-695 |
19:50.46 | johnsonth_ | This leaves me to wonder whether the change applies retroactivately to users who previously did not include their email. |
19:51.02 | scgallafent | Most likely not. |
19:51.27 | johnsonth_ | If you look at the screenshot I just uploaded to that JIRA item, https://tech.lds.org/jira/secure/attachment/15946/contactingusers.png, why is it that User:Dammonburden isn't someone we can contact by email. |
19:51.51 | johnsonth_ | Dammonburden predates the update that forces email addresses to be inserted into the profile, right? |
19:52.48 | johnsonth_ | I can't imagine that someone who has made or is making a lot of edits to the wiki doesn't have an email listed in his or her profile. |
19:52.59 | johnsonth_ | So the number of people I might want to contact to ask about the content is probably small. |
19:53.06 | johnsonth_ | Thanks for making that update to the wiki, scgallafent. |
19:53.50 | scgallafent | You're welcome. :) |
19:53.53 | scgallafent | Looking at the user. |
19:55.11 | scgallafent | That user was created before the wiki was updated. |
19:57.10 | scgallafent | You're probably right about the number of users that you may want to contact. In most cases, you could probably work from a wiki account back to an LDS Account if you absolutely needed to contact them. |
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20:25.19 | johnsonth_ | scgallafent and TimRiker, I made the updates to the LDSTech article about the forum update and published the article. https://tech.lds.org/blog/549-new-ldstech-forum-software |
20:28.25 | scgallafent | johnsonth_, thanks. |
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21:16.07 | smootar | scgallafent: are you joining us? |
21:16.09 | tdeforest | steve you joining us. scgallafent |
21:16.24 | scgallafent | Just returning a phone call that came in during the other meeting. |
21:16.27 | scgallafent | Be about two more minutes. |
21:16.32 | smootar | ok |
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21:40.52 | johnsonth | scgallafent, someone asks, "Is it possible for users to have a forum "handle"? I don't want my real name showing up on the publicly accessible forums." |
21:41.03 | johnsonth | I assume the answer is no, you can't change your user profile. I just tried and couldn't. |
21:41.12 | scgallafent | I doubt it. We can look. |
21:41.36 | scgallafent | You could enter it as a JIRA request. Worst case is it gets closed as "Will Not Fix." |
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23:42.36 | johnsonth | scgallafent or TimRiker, I have a question for you guys. |
23:42.51 | scgallafent | Fire away |
23:42.56 | johnsonth | When you do searches for LDSTech content, such as https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ldstech%20lesson%20schedules%20forum&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=cf0c63362f1f3d11&bpcl=39942515&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355272958,d.aWM&biw=1188&bih=927 |
23:43.14 | johnsonth | And you click the results that take you to the joomla blog on ldstech, does it ever take you to the wrong page? |
23:43.39 | johnsonth | I often get routed to the base category page on the first click, but not the subsequent click. |
23:43.53 | scgallafent | I've never had that happen. Does one of the examples in that result set exhibit the problem? |
23:44.06 | johnsonth | the first link i clicked in those results did that. |
23:44.57 | scgallafent | Thef first link I get points to the forum. |
23:45.10 | scgallafent | What is the title or a URL chunk of the result I should look for? |
23:46.40 | johnsonth | I can't reproduce the error consistently. |
23:46.52 | johnsonth | I meant a non-forum link, such as to a joomla result. |
23:47.26 | scgallafent | I tried a couple of links to the blog and didn't have any issues. |
23:47.56 | johnsonth | Thanks for trying. I'll keep an eye on it and see if I can ever replicate it. In the meantime, if you ever search for an ldstech link and it doesn't take you to the right page, let me know. |
23:48.09 | scgallafent | OK. |