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| 13:49.48 | geekymom | anybody awake |
| 13:49.55 | macluvjay | nope |
| 13:50.10 | geekymom | besides the bitter? :-) |
| 13:50.19 | geekymom | did you see this article? |
| 13:50.23 | geekymom | http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/wireStory?id=3375212 |
| 13:50.47 | geekymom | look at the picture |
| 13:52.09 | macluvjay | ugh, does that mean I have to read it now? |
| 13:52.14 | geekymom | nope |
| 13:52.19 | geekymom | the picture is good enough |
| 13:52.22 | macluvjay | oh my |
| 13:52.29 | geekymom | uh huh |
| 13:52.39 | G0NZ0 | omg |
| 13:52.45 | G0NZ0 | its terrible |
| 13:52.52 | geekymom | cool, huh! |
| 13:52.59 | geekymom | what an idiot! |
| 13:53.04 | geekymom | call that stupid tax |
| 13:53.14 | macluvjay | my leg hurts now |
| 13:53.19 | geekymom | lol |
| 13:53.59 | geekymom | I am happy now |
| 13:54.06 | geekymom | I grossed someone else out |
| 13:54.09 | geekymom | thanks, guys |
| 13:55.52 | G0NZ0 | lol |
| 13:56.05 | G0NZ0 | that pic was really scary |
| 13:56.29 | G0NZ0 | i almost got sick just watching, seriously no joking, you know the nausea feeling comin up |
| 13:56.31 | Linuturk | oi |
| 13:57.09 | geekymom | rofl |
| 13:57.22 | geekymom | glad to help, gonzo |
| 13:57.29 | geekymom | nice way to start your day |
| 13:57.31 | G0NZ0 | lollllll |
| 13:57.34 | G0NZ0 | hahahahahahhaahhahahah |
| 13:57.35 | G0NZ0 | lmao |
| 13:57.39 | G0NZ0 | :D |
| 13:57.46 | geekymom | I always try to start my day that way |
| 13:57.51 | G0NZ0 | hahahaha |
| 13:57.55 | geekymom | that is how I stay so thin |
| 13:58.01 | G0NZ0 | rofl |
| 13:58.02 | geekymom | justin |
| 13:58.15 | geekymom | read look at the picture in the above link |
| 13:58.33 | geekymom | btw, I was just kidding about the puking :-) |
| 13:58.35 | Linuturk | I did |
| 13:58.42 | geekymom | nice, huh? |
| 13:58.49 | Linuturk | I've seen worse |
| 13:58.54 | geekymom | really? |
| 13:59.03 | Linuturk | didn't even upset my stomach |
| 13:59.06 | geekymom | that was too cool the way it impaled the leg |
| 13:59.06 | Linuturk | yeah |
| 13:59.11 | geekymom | me, neither |
| 13:59.35 | geekymom | course up close and in person might have been a different story |
| 13:59.45 | Linuturk | the Internet generation is really desensitized |
| 13:59.45 | geekymom | I would have been feeling his pain |
| 13:59.56 | geekymom | I know |
| 14:00.29 | Linuturk | we have video games that teach us how to perform major surgery for crying out loud |
| 14:00.29 | geekymom | but I do know how I react to seeing people in pain, to |
| 14:00.39 | geekymom | that is neat |
| 14:00.50 | geekymom | it isn't just the internet, though |
| 14:01.22 | geekymom | tv has done a far worse job of desensitizing this generation |
| 14:01.42 | Linuturk | lol |
| 14:01.55 | Linuturk | I'd have to say the internet wins hands down |
| 14:02.05 | Linuturk | you haven't visited the depths like I have |
| 14:02.12 | geekymom | I wouldn't know cause I don't go there |
| 14:02.25 | geekymom | yup |
| 14:02.42 | geekymom | I just see the crap on the tv and movies |
| 14:02.58 | Linuturk | if you don't know what I mean by goatse |
| 14:03.08 | geekymom | but I do hear about the filth available on the net and it should be shut down |
| 14:03.10 | Linuturk | then you haven't seen a taste of anything yet |
| 14:03.14 | geekymom | nope |
| 14:03.23 | geekymom | innocent here |
| 14:03.58 | Linuturk | well, I'm not a fan of censorship at all |
| 14:04.03 | geekymom | and I don't dare google it |
| 14:04.15 | Linuturk | just proper education on the parent's part, realy |
| 14:04.15 | Linuturk | really* |
| 14:04.16 | geekymom | most of that crap needs to be censored |
| 14:04.19 | Linuturk | which I lacked |
| 14:04.28 | geekymom | pedophila |
| 14:04.31 | Linuturk | ever read 1984 ? |
| 14:04.36 | geekymom | yes |
| 14:04.59 | geekymom | ever see what child porn does to the child who has to live through it |
| 14:05.03 | Linuturk | I have a healthy dose of anti government |
| 14:05.08 | geekymom | it should be outlawed |
| 14:05.11 | geekymom | and censored |
| 14:05.19 | geekymom | me, too |
| 14:05.29 | geekymom | but some things shouldn't exist |
| 14:05.38 | geekymom | nor the monstors who create them |
| 14:06.15 | Linuturk | well, it is outlawed in this country |
| 14:06.20 | Linuturk | the only problem is |
| 14:06.25 | Linuturk | their servers aren't in this country |
| 14:06.32 | geekymom | we can't keep it out |
| 14:06.36 | geekymom | I know |
| 14:07.03 | Linuturk | well, you can through internet filtering software |
| 14:07.07 | Linuturk | but |
| 14:07.09 | geekymom | give me a gun and point me in the right direction :-) |
| 14:07.12 | Linuturk | I don't want the governement running that |
| 14:07.14 | geekymom | I have it |
| 14:07.17 | Linuturk | look at the censorship in China |
| 14:07.22 | Linuturk | aweful |
| 14:07.48 | geekymom | some things shouldn't exist, and you know that |
| 14:08.01 | Linuturk | kids are growing up in China, and they don't know the facts about their country because their government filter |
| 14:08.11 | geekymom | that is different |
| 14:08.21 | geekymom | you are arguing apples and oranges |
| 14:08.44 | Linuturk | ah, but it is tied together. Give someone the power to block one certain kind of content, and next thing you know, all the anit-bush sites out there won't show up anymore |
| 14:09.01 | geekymom | that won't happen |
| 14:09.07 | Linuturk | or, <insert other political motivated site here> |
| 14:09.08 | geekymom | not in this country |
| 14:09.14 | Linuturk | it already does |
| 14:09.23 | Linuturk | yes it does |
| 14:09.40 | geekymom | people find a way around what they want to do |
| 14:09.42 | Linuturk | there are many network admins out there that block certain content based on politics |
| 14:09.52 | Linuturk | yes, for now they find a way |
| 14:10.15 | geekymom | they get their message out, just like the terroists do |
| 14:10.26 | geekymom | <sigh> |
| 14:10.38 | geekymom | a vicious circle |
| 14:10.46 | geekymom | with no solution |
| 14:11.41 | Linuturk | but eventually, some group will want legislation enforced that states ISP's have to block certain sites based on pornography. The government will obviously regulate and see which sites are inappropriate, and eventually, politically motivated blocks will happen. All this will ride on the "save the children!!" chant |
| 14:11.42 | geekymom | I do see a certain validity to your point |
| 14:12.06 | Linuturk | and free press will be further pushed under the table |
| 14:12.09 | geekymom | because of my anti-govt bias, but ... |
| 14:12.47 | Linuturk | where Bush has taken this country is horrible, and i didn't see it coming |
| 14:13.05 | Linuturk | but compared to a few years ago, we are much more limited, and the feds have that much more power |
| 14:13.19 | geekymom | Bush isn't perfect nor was Clinton nor Reagon |
| 14:14.02 | geekymom | we are much more limited due to what has happen since 9-11 |
| 14:14.02 | Linuturk | right, but our freedoms have been restricted to unparalleled levels because of fear. |
| 14:14.17 | geekymom | what freedoms have you personally lost due to this |
| 14:14.29 | geekymom | I have been inconvenienced at airports |
| 14:14.42 | geekymom | MUCH since I traveled much |
| 14:14.57 | geekymom | it was my time, but I would rather be safe |
| 14:15.01 | Linuturk | and the lack of support in Congress for Net Neutrality really shows how out of touch the government is with technology. The RIAA's policies scream this more than anything |
| 14:15.07 | geekymom | it isn't a perfect system though |
| 14:15.08 | Linuturk | and |
| 14:15.26 | geekymom | Congress has nothing to do with Bush |
| 14:15.30 | Linuturk | I can't tell you what freedoms I've lost, because the govt. doesn't have to tell me when they wiretap my phone, or monitor my ISP |
| 14:15.37 | geekymom | they are separate entities |
| 14:15.55 | Linuturk | I know they are. I wasn't comparing the two |
| 14:16.14 | geekymom | I seriously doubt you are doing anything subversive, so you have nothing to worry about |
| 14:16.27 | Linuturk | that is the wrong mindset |
| 14:16.29 | geekymom | I doubt they even know who you are |
| 14:16.36 | geekymom | no it isn't |
| 14:16.40 | Linuturk | "If you aren't doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide?" |
| 14:16.50 | Linuturk | It is my RIGHT to have privacy |
| 14:16.50 | geekymom | I spent too much time in the military community |
| 14:16.58 | geekymom | I know what is going on |
| 14:17.02 | geekymom | yes you do |
| 14:17.12 | Linuturk | and to keep some snooping govt. agent from snooping in my personal life |
| 14:17.19 | geekymom | and unless you pose a security risk, you have it |
| 14:17.31 | geekymom | you are not a terroist |
| 14:17.41 | geekymom | you do not fit a profile |
| 14:18.19 | geekymom | they are only targeting a certain group of people with these wiretaps |
| 14:18.21 | Linuturk | and every single muslim american has the same rights as me |
| 14:18.40 | Linuturk | how do you know they are only targeting certain people ? |
| 14:18.47 | Linuturk | who is watching the watchers? |
| 14:18.57 | Linuturk | no one, because they don't have to get a warrant anymore |
| 14:19.58 | Linuturk | they've bypassed the checks and balances that keeps them in line |
| 14:22.57 | geekymom | there are checks and balances in place still |
| 14:23.04 | geekymom | no one has all authority |
| 14:23.19 | geekymom | too many movies have been shown with this theme |
| 14:23.35 | Linuturk | no, the news has been showing this theme |
| 14:23.37 | geekymom | no one person has all power or authority |
| 14:23.50 | geekymom | the news with bias, yup |
| 14:24.05 | geekymom | I believe them (with sarcasism) |
| 14:24.10 | geekymom | whatever |
| 14:24.39 | geekymom | the news does not give you a complete picture of anything |
| 14:25.14 | geekymom | they are merely puppets for whoevers agenda they support |
| 14:27.15 | Linuturk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act |
| 14:27.19 | Linuturk | and, I agree there |
| 14:27.33 | Linuturk | but you can also look past the "news" they offer |
| 14:27.42 | Linuturk | and concentrate on the facts behind it |
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