00:33.11 | flybaer | ummmm....guypat: where were you? |
00:33.22 | flybaer | Jay! |
00:33.29 | flybaer | long time no see! |
00:34.15 | guypat | flybaer: y0 |
00:34.28 | flybaer | I missed you at the meeting |
00:35.02 | guypat | flybaer: i apologize. didn't realize i said that i'd show up? |
00:35.41 | flybaer | you said you wouldn't mind working on the HD issue and I told you come to the meeting tonight |
00:35.56 | flybaer | and you said "aight, i will" |
00:36.05 | flybaer | no biggie |
00:36.17 | flybaer | just wanted you to know I missed seeing you there |
00:37.23 | guypat | my apologies flybaer, i didn't mean to lead you on like that. by saying "i will" i meant that i would help you this evening via IRC. |
00:37.47 | flybaer | ah... |
00:38.48 | flybaer | well, my laptop didn't recognize it at all. I am going to get this desktop set up dual-boot since it is a fresh hard drive and then I am going to try it again. After that I will give the HD a proper burial |
00:39.07 | flybaer | I will let you know when I am ready to play again and maybe you can come out ;) |
00:39.22 | guypat | flybaer: ok, i'll see what i can do |
00:39.53 | flybaer | thanks and don't worry about it. I was just playing with you and not giving you a hard time. |
00:41.01 | guypat | no worries - our line of communication hasn't been tarnished in any way on my end. just lemme know whenever you get square and we'll work on your HD issue |
00:46.48 | flybaer | will do and thx |
00:48.14 | macluvjay | C |
00:48.20 | macluvjay | how have you been? |
00:48.34 | macluvjay | haven't seen you guys in a while |
00:48.52 | guypat | y0h0h0 |
00:49.24 | macluvjay | how did u find these hopeless fools ? |
00:49.26 | macluvjay | ;) |
00:49.56 | macluvjay | flybaer: answer me! |
00:50.05 | flybaer | hey, you! |
00:50.08 | macluvjay | you know I demand instant feedback |
00:50.13 | flybaer | I was onto bigger and better stuff |
00:50.22 | flybaer | you get one chance for me to see you |
00:50.30 | flybaer | and then its on to other things |
00:50.33 | macluvjay | good for you |
00:50.33 | flybaer | how you doing? |
00:50.39 | macluvjay | :) |
00:50.44 | flybaer | long time n c |
00:50.48 | flybaer | where you been? |
00:50.55 | flybaer | I miss you being around |
00:50.58 | macluvjay | same old, work and school |
00:50.59 | flybaer | you are a lot of fun |
00:51.04 | macluvjay | they are a time suck |
00:51.06 | flybaer | got to have play time |
00:51.15 | flybaer | how's the girl friend? |
00:51.29 | macluvjay | she's been good recently |
00:51.36 | flybaer | you know...the one that screams at you on the cell phone ;) |
00:51.38 | flybaer | good! |
00:51.47 | macluvjay | I've calmed her down quite a it |
00:51.48 | flybaer | you deserve someone who will be good to you |
00:51.49 | macluvjay | bit* |
00:51.54 | flybaer | glad to hear it |
00:52.01 | flybaer | ok, I hear you talking |
00:52.05 | flybaer | nothing has changed |
00:52.11 | flybaer | :) |
00:52.38 | macluvjay | you got all your remodeling done? |
00:52.53 | flybaer | well...the area that you saw is all done! |
00:52.58 | macluvjay | nice |
00:53.13 | macluvjay | there is always something, right? |
00:53.18 | flybaer | you should come by and take a look...even Justin hasn't seen it |
00:53.38 | flybaer | question...if we moved the meetings to weekends, you think you could come? |
00:53.45 | macluvjay | was raymond there tonight? |
00:53.48 | flybaer | yup |
00:53.50 | macluvjay | Y |
00:54.01 | flybaer | was the Y for my question? |
00:54.14 | macluvjay | tuesdays I have class until about 2000 |
00:54.27 | flybaer | are you a member of the yahoo group? |
00:54.32 | macluvjay | Y == weekends are good for me |
00:54.35 | macluvjay | N |
00:54.47 | macluvjay | should I be? |
00:54.51 | flybaer | ok...go to lugot.org and sign the poll |
00:54.56 | flybaer | well, it doesn't hurt |
00:55.05 | macluvjay | mailing list? |
00:55.07 | macluvjay | I like those |
00:55.13 | flybaer | I send out email warnings of changes with the meeting, polls and such |
00:55.21 | flybaer | we email each other and ask questions |
00:55.27 | flybaer | what's your email addy |
00:55.43 | macluvjay | pm |
00:56.39 | macluvjay | as long as I never have to log into any yahoo account, I would like to be involved |
00:57.13 | flybaer | you won't have to be |
00:57.21 | flybaer | I could just add you |
00:57.35 | macluvjay | that would be perfect |
00:58.22 | flybaer | ok...you have been added |
01:00.37 | macluvjay | I'm migrating to a new mail server and trying to decide if I should stick with the bloaty horde/imp or move to a nice little ilohamail |
01:00.45 | macluvjay | any thoughts? |
01:00.49 | flybaer | jay have you received the notice about being added? Just want to see before I try adding you again |
01:01.08 | macluvjay | logging in now |
01:01.17 | flybaer | My mail server is through ipowerweb |
01:01.17 | macluvjay | got the invite |
01:01.40 | flybaer | nothing saying you were added? |
01:01.41 | macluvjay | do I need to click that join button? |
01:01.55 | flybaer | you could do that, but then you would have to log in |
01:03.41 | flybaer | got you added and you are set up for individual emails... |
01:03.51 | flybaer | there aren't many..maybe 2 a month |
01:06.45 | macluvjay | brb |
01:20.21 | flybaer | has anyone ever done the "install ubuntu" inside of windows |
01:21.35 | flybaer | going to run this question up the ubuntu channel |
01:30.40 | flybaer | in other words Wubi |
01:30.54 | flybaer | anyone? and don't just tell me to read the FAQ |
01:32.39 | flybaer | guypat, macluvjay |
01:35.36 | guypat | flybaer: no, i have not |
01:35.42 | guypat | last time i used ubuntu was v3 |
01:35.47 | guypat | and i was offended |
01:35.48 | flybaer | k |
01:36.11 | flybaer | just wanted someone to explain why it wasn't good |
01:37.24 | flybaer | you are funny |
01:37.28 | flybaer | debian guy? |
01:37.37 | guypat | i'm not saying "Wubi" isn't good, i'm just saying i didn't like ubuntu v3 |
01:37.50 | guypat | yes, i'm a debian fanboy |
01:38.03 | flybaer | well, the newest version is 8.04 |
01:38.25 | flybaer | I have to learn under people I can ask question of |
01:38.44 | flybaer | and a majority of the people I have access to use Ubuntu which is why I use it |
01:39.06 | flybaer | once I stop crawling, I am sure I will develop my own choices |
01:39.09 | guypat | well, could always learn on your own through trial & error :) |
01:39.19 | flybaer | I do that to |
01:39.23 | guypat | brb |
01:42.32 | flybaer | going to install this guy now so I am logging off...if you see me again tonight, I was successful! |
01:42.34 | flybaer | ciao |
02:01.37 | *** join/#lugot flybaer (n=Catherin@c-98-192-137-149.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
02:05.44 | macluvjay | flybaer: ty, I got the "welcome" email |
11:30.19 | flybaer | Great macluvjay! |
11:47.38 | guypat | Client Connection Uptime: 34d 23h 59m 49s |
12:13.52 | Linuturk | oi |
12:14.05 | Linuturk | <PROTECTED> |
12:14.11 | Linuturk | not as good as you guypat |
12:19.53 | SlowCoder | flybaer: Did a little research on our problem last night. /etc/bash_bashrc is the Ubuntu equivalent to *normal* OS's /etc/bashrc. |
12:20.36 | SlowCoder | So, we were correct to put that command in that file. |
12:22.54 | macluvjay | what ever hapened to ~/.${SHELL}rc |
12:23.15 | macluvjay | why you goota change for the whole system? |
12:23.35 | Linuturk | oi macluvjay :) |
12:23.48 | macluvjay | Linuturk: :) |
12:24.43 | Linuturk | how's it going? |
12:25.13 | SlowCoder | Also, I must have been tired last night. I totally overlooked the possibility that there is probably a PS1 variable declaration in your ~/.bashrc file. That is probably what caused my script to not work in /etc/bash_bashrc, and to work when we put it in ~/.bashrc. |
12:25.14 | SlowCoder | Duh! |
12:25.20 | macluvjay | pretty good, can't complain |
12:25.36 | macluvjay | nub |
12:25.57 | macluvjay | ofc a loca; env variable will override a system one |
12:26.12 | macluvjay | that is the point of them |
12:26.14 | macluvjay | ;) |
12:26.20 | SlowCoder | Me knows that! |
12:26.36 | SlowCoder | But I've been sick. Not thinking straight. |
12:26.57 | flybaer | Didn't I ask that? :) |
12:27.22 | SlowCoder | I don't remember. |
12:27.23 | SlowCoder | Maybe. |
12:27.24 | Linuturk | :) |
12:27.30 | SlowCoder | Did we look for it? |
12:27.30 | flybaer | I did :) |
12:27.35 | flybaer | no |
12:27.39 | Linuturk | slowcoder == jeff? |
12:27.40 | flybaer | maybe |
12:27.43 | flybaer | I forget |
12:27.46 | flybaer | yup Linuturk |
12:27.53 | flybaer | Geoff |
12:27.55 | SlowCoder | Well, with your newfound commandline skillz, get on it! |
12:28.08 | flybaer | whatever <rolling my eyes at you> |
12:28.08 | SlowCoder | <-- Geoff |
12:28.19 | flybaer | and you are slow ;) |
12:28.28 | flybaer | get with the conversation |
12:28.38 | flybaer | This is a whole lot easier than last night |
12:28.39 | SlowCoder | Byte me! |
12:28.49 | flybaer | I can actually say everything I want |
12:28.55 | flybaer | <grin> |
12:29.05 | SlowCoder | Haha! Byte=Bite! Haha! ROFL!! Gosh that was so dumb! |
12:29.26 | flybaer | really?? You sound like one of my kids now...all puny |
12:29.37 | flybaer | get it? puny...funny?? |
12:29.44 | flybaer | <yawn> I hate puns |
12:29.52 | SlowCoder | Do you mean "punny", or puny? |
12:29.54 | Linuturk | I think he's still asleep |
12:30.08 | Linuturk | little girly man! |
12:30.21 | flybaer | I debated that, Geoff and wasn't sure |
12:30.49 | SlowCoder | Linuturk, flybaer left you a gift. Did you get it? |
12:30.57 | flybaer | never expect a geek to have a great sense of humor |
12:31.02 | flybaer | bet he didn't |
12:31.13 | flybaer | had some help doing it |
12:31.23 | flybaer | I can't take all the credit as much as I would like to |
12:31.47 | SlowCoder | Just because Ubuntu doesn't have all the required tools ... I think you should switch! :) |
12:31.59 | Linuturk | do what? |
12:32.03 | Linuturk | what gift? |
12:32.07 | flybaer | wake up, Linuturk |
12:32.16 | SlowCoder | Now who's the slow one? |
12:32.16 | flybaer | can't keep up with the conversation? |
12:32.37 | SlowCoder | That's what the history's for! Read it! |
12:32.40 | flybaer | geoff, I am installing on my desktop today |
12:33.18 | flybaer | I was going to do the dual-boot install last night but decided I needed to verify my drive configuration before starting and then it was time to sleep |
12:33.23 | flybaer | and I forgot about sleep |
12:33.44 | flybaer | linuturk is busy looking to see what I got my hands on |
12:33.59 | SlowCoder | *Argh! How am I supposed to be covert if you keep using my real name?!* |
12:34.03 | flybaer | it might take him a while |
12:34.08 | flybaer | <grin> |
12:34.09 | Linuturk | just tell me |
12:34.17 | flybaer | it is more fun this way |
12:34.26 | flybaer | you'll find it sooner or later |
12:34.30 | flybaer | and I am VERY patient |
12:34.36 | SlowCoder | You'll find it eventually. |
12:34.37 | flybaer | did I mention that I have two teens? |
12:34.39 | Linuturk | well, I guess I won't find out, b/c I'm a busy man at work and I don't have time to go digging through history |
12:34.57 | flybaer | works for me :) |
12:35.31 | flybaer | slowcoder:did I hear some impatience in his typing? |
12:36.45 | SlowCoder | :) |
12:37.25 | flybaer | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Y4keqTV6w |
12:37.38 | SlowCoder | I never forget about sleep, but frequently suffer insomnia. |
12:37.42 | Linuturk | remodeling |
12:37.43 | flybaer | ditto |
12:37.45 | Linuturk | pfft |
12:37.51 | Linuturk | I was thinking you got a new computer ;p |
12:37.58 | flybaer | pfft? |
12:38.03 | Linuturk | (good job :) |
12:38.09 | flybaer | :) |
12:39.17 | flybaer | watch the video...about 1.5 minutes in you will get to the really interesting part |
12:39.20 | flybaer | it is hilarious! |
12:39.25 | SlowCoder | Watching ... |
12:40.11 | flybaer | the entire video is great |
12:44.39 | SlowCoder | Notice the recent lack of chatting? Everyone's too busy laughing! :) |
12:44.48 | flybaer | yup |
12:45.01 | SlowCoder | Hew hew hew hew! |
12:46.36 | flybaer | got tears in my eyes from laughing so much! |
12:50.59 | SlowCoder | Too funny! I needed that. |
12:51.31 | SlowCoder | Of course, the "Laughing Girl" related video is almost as funny. |
12:51.37 | macluvjay | tears for fears |
12:51.43 | macluvjay | bizzare love triangle |
12:51.46 | macluvjay | heart |
12:52.48 | flybaer | I will watch...daughter just walked in and is watching this |
12:53.20 | flybaer | jay???? what are you talking about |
12:53.28 | macluvjay | :O |
12:54.36 | macluvjay | damnit |
12:54.38 | macluvjay | I was wrong |
12:54.46 | macluvjay | TFF did Mad World |
12:55.05 | macluvjay | BLT was New Order |
12:55.27 | flybaer | ah! |
12:55.32 | flybaer | tracking now |
12:56.01 | macluvjay | check your pm skank |
12:56.45 | flybaer | minute...daughter is watching video |
12:57.19 | macluvjay | k |
12:57.46 | Linuturk | ain't she got her own computer? |
12:57.48 | Linuturk | lol |
12:58.44 | flybaer | yup, but she started watching the video over my shoulders since my computer is in the middle of the house |
13:01.20 | flybaer | holy cow...her laugh is annoying! |
13:01.43 | flybaer | ok...laughing girl gets turned off |
13:01.58 | flybaer | sounded like a hyena |
14:00.41 | macluvjay | this is weird |
14:00.55 | macluvjay | just did a debian etch install on a new server |
14:01.13 | macluvjay | when it boots up it drops to a busybox shell |
14:01.23 | Linuturk | you've been haxxored |
14:01.24 | macluvjay | this server has 2 raid arrays, btw |
14:01.57 | Linuturk | they haxxored you with a microwave and a Mr. Fusion |
14:01.59 | macluvjay | 80GB RAID1 and a 900GB RAID5 |
14:02.08 | Linuturk | nice |
14:02.10 | Linuturk | I want one |
14:02.17 | macluvjay | is sda2 |
14:02.17 | Linuturk | gimmie gimmie gimmie |
14:02.24 | macluvjay | bah / is sda2 |
14:02.30 | Linuturk | hard or soft array? |
14:02.35 | macluvjay | hard |
14:02.37 | macluvjay | 3ware |
14:02.47 | Linuturk | drivers kosher? |
14:02.51 | macluvjay | Y |
14:03.15 | macluvjay | when it boots, it thinks sda2 is the second partition on the RAID5 array |
14:03.28 | macluvjay | but if I boot a livecd, it seems them properly |
14:03.30 | Linuturk | ouch |
14:03.32 | macluvjay | quite strange |
14:03.40 | Linuturk | how about by UUID ? |
14:03.43 | Linuturk | try that |
14:03.47 | macluvjay | I reckon could just edit fstab and grub.conf |
14:16.01 | macluvjay | interesting |
14:16.05 | macluvjay | so that worked |
14:16.22 | macluvjay | I don't like it, but it worked |
14:46.16 | SlowCoder | Jumping back to 10:02 ... We have 2.5TB hard array :) |
14:46.45 | macluvjay | ... |
14:46.50 | macluvjay | so? |
14:47.03 | SlowCoder | Beats your 900GB |
14:47.05 | macluvjay | I have a 3TB raid6 array also |
14:47.16 | macluvjay | e-penis contest? |
14:47.31 | SlowCoder | Oh. |
14:47.34 | SlowCoder | :( |
14:47.37 | SlowCoder | You win. |
14:47.44 | macluvjay | if you say so |
14:47.49 | macluvjay | what is it I win exactly? |
14:47.58 | SlowCoder | My jealousy. |
14:48.06 | macluvjay | lol |
14:48.08 | SlowCoder | That's what all geeks want, right? |
14:48.15 | macluvjay | what do you use the 2.5 for? |
14:48.35 | macluvjay | I use my 3 for a file share smb/nfs/afp |
14:48.55 | macluvjay | the 900GB is for email half for var half for home |
14:55.59 | SlowCoder | User and website files, primarily. |
14:56.24 | SlowCoder | You guys keep your own email over at CoM? |
14:56.40 | macluvjay | CoM does, but I'm not at CoM |
14:56.51 | macluvjay | and I do my own email here, yes |
14:57.14 | SlowCoder | Where is "here"? |
14:57.32 | macluvjay | sendmail/uw-imap/horde-imp/ |
14:59.09 | macluvjay | florida high outsorcing everything to Mike Barker's crew? |
14:59.29 | macluvjay | must not have much faith in their own IT group |
15:08.23 | SlowCoder | You work at B.S. |
15:08.36 | SlowCoder | Thigpen |
15:09.28 | *** join/#lugot n0doze (n=n0doze@deathfuckinmetal.com) |
15:09.55 | macluvjay | what is B.S.? |
15:10.56 | n0doze | Hello |
15:11.11 | macluvjay | n0doze: w/b |
15:12.05 | n0doze | macluvjay: thxs, whats goin on |
15:13.23 | macluvjay | I am trying to figure out why debian keeps confusing my boot partition |
15:24.38 | guypat | startup script over-writing menu.lst ? |
15:25.18 | macluvjay | nope, but it seems to do the exact opposite of what menu.lst says to |
15:25.37 | guypat | then change it in menu.lst to the opposite lol |
15:25.51 | macluvjay | duh, but it still does the opposite |
15:25.56 | guypat | oh wow |
15:26.10 | macluvjay | when I change sda2 to sdb2, then it mounts sda2 as / |
15:26.17 | guypat | aptitude -purge grub |
15:26.30 | guypat | apt-get install grub |
15:26.31 | guypat | lol |
15:26.42 | *** part/#lugot n0doze (n=n0doze@deathfuckinmetal.com) |
15:26.45 | macluvjay | no aptitude in busybox ash |
15:27.29 | macluvjay | I guess I could have chrooted, but I'm just gonna do rebuild both arrays and do a fresh install |
15:27.35 | guypat | then apt-get remove? i find purge does a better job of removing associated filed.. i've found stuff after performing a remove which really pisses me off |
15:28.21 | macluvjay | get rid of any lingering mbr mess and start from scratch |
15:41.08 | Linuturk | aptitude does the best dependency handling |
15:41.19 | Linuturk | but only if you use aptitude consistently |
17:16.22 | Linuturk | http://www.justinandsavana.com/gallery.php << wedding pictures |
17:33.43 | flybaer | can you get rid of the bottom border so I don't have to scroll and center each picture. I can't see all of the picture at the same time. |
17:35.54 | macluvjay | agreed! |
17:36.22 | macluvjay | your css may validate, but it fails the human usability test |
17:36.41 | flybaer | yeah, what he said! |
17:37.44 | Linuturk | lol |
17:38.13 | Linuturk | http://www.justinandsavana.com/gallery/albums.php << there you go |
17:38.26 | Linuturk | just for you |
17:38.33 | flybaer | :) |
17:38.58 | flybaer | MUCH better! |
17:42.26 | flybaer | really like 111 and 112 |
17:45.02 | flybaer | #172 |
17:47.18 | Linuturk | I'm going to change the gallery to pop out into a new window by default |
17:48.09 | macluvjay | Linuturk: eye heart galleryv1 |
17:48.15 | macluvjay | good choice there |
17:48.29 | Linuturk | yep :) |
17:48.39 | Linuturk | a few dependecy problems on etch though |
17:48.40 | Linuturk | :( |
17:48.51 | Linuturk | .htaccess isn't playing nice, so no files over 2 MB |
17:48.55 | macluvjay | slaps Linuturk |
17:49.08 | macluvjay | tarball from their site |
17:49.21 | Linuturk | duh |
17:49.32 | Linuturk | but, it requires a few things I can't find the packages for |
17:49.44 | macluvjay | hrm |
17:49.47 | Linuturk | and, my apache or php configs must be screwey |
17:49.58 | macluvjay | slaps Linuturk again |
17:50.02 | macluvjay | lighttpd! |
17:50.14 | Linuturk | NEVAR! |
17:57.54 | guypat | Linuturk: given a choice you prefer apache over lighttpd? |
17:57.59 | guypat | lol, you're nutz man |
17:59.07 | Linuturk | it is what I know |
17:59.51 | guypat | that's a pretty closed minded thought process |
18:00.09 | guypat | "i'm not gonna crap in the woods b/c a toilet is all i know" |
18:00.42 | Linuturk | lol |
18:01.00 | Linuturk | well, if everyone keeps going on about it, I might have to try it |
18:01.31 | Linuturk | isn't apache more standard though? |
18:01.35 | Linuturk | the whole LAMP thing? |
18:01.42 | Linuturk | LLMP doesn't have the same ring ;p |
18:02.35 | Linuturk | there has to be downsides |
18:02.38 | Linuturk | what are they? |
18:02.42 | macluvjay | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
18:02.42 | macluvjay | /dev/sda1 70G 378M 66G 1% / |
18:02.42 | macluvjay | tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /lib/init/rw |
18:02.42 | macluvjay | udev 10M 60K 10M 1% /dev |
18:02.42 | macluvjay | tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm |
18:02.45 | macluvjay | /dev/sdb1 441G 199M 418G 1% /home |
18:02.47 | macluvjay | /dev/sdb2 440G 342M 418G 1% /var |
18:02.50 | macluvjay | w00t for me |
18:03.05 | macluvjay | Linuturk: there is plenty of documentation for lightty |
18:03.41 | Linuturk | how difficult are virtual hosts compared to apache? |
18:03.43 | macluvjay | it possibly does not scale as well, but for what you or I use a webserver for, lightty is more than enough |
18:03.46 | Linuturk | php mysql too? |
18:03.50 | macluvjay | not very |
18:03.55 | macluvjay | sure |
18:04.52 | macluvjay | if you want to get really light, you can even try nginx |
18:04.52 | guypat | macluvjay: youtube runs lighttpd |
18:04.56 | guypat | wikipedia is running lighttpd |
18:05.00 | guypat | the ish scales.. |
18:05.12 | macluvjay | true |
18:05.31 | guypat | Linuturk: LAMP = over-rated BS.. stop conforming, that's what using nix is about, doing your own thing |
18:06.01 | guypat | Linuturk: virtual hosts? 1 line in /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf |
18:06.16 | guypat | then /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload |
18:06.23 | guypat | assuming dns is configured, the vhost will work |
18:07.36 | Linuturk | so, I shouldn't conform to what I am using, and conform to what the elitiest thing I should use? (lol) |
18:07.48 | Linuturk | I'm so non-conformist, I'm going to conform |
18:07.52 | Linuturk | lol |
18:08.02 | macluvjay | N, you should try out other options and use what is best for you |
18:08.09 | Linuturk | I know |
18:08.14 | Linuturk | I'm playing with you guys |
18:08.21 | guypat | haha, well, you could look at it that way.. but experimenting and trying out stuff will expand your horizons |
18:08.23 | macluvjay | apache is way overkill and a resource hog compared to lightty |
18:08.33 | guypat | another good point, macluvjay |
18:08.56 | guypat | Linuturk: if you're really feeling froggy, try some Hiawatha HTTPD :) |
18:10.57 | Linuturk | lol |
18:11.07 | Linuturk | well, I guess I'll try light next time |
18:12.20 | macluvjay | hiawatha ain't bad to setup |
18:12.33 | macluvjay | just not so friendly with certain cms engines |