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15:26.14 | kerio | freemangordon: HAM needs to be fixed to allow proper dpkg compliance |
15:28.28 | kerio | i wonder if "use APT algorithms" would make stuff like that work |
15:31.33 | merlin1991 | reads backscroll from maker |
15:36.18 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: equalizer addition sounds good |
15:36.47 | freemangordon | merlin1991: did you see the problrm with openssl and dbg symbols i posted? |
15:36.53 | merlin1991 | yes |
15:37.07 | freemangordon | ok |
15:37.09 | merlin1991 | did you push your packaging changes for that to openssl master? |
15:37.14 | merlin1991 | or should I cherry-pick htem? |
15:37.23 | freemangordon | no, you should cherry-pick |
15:37.44 | freemangordon | i didn't think master is affected too :) |
15:38.16 | merlin1991 | okay I'll do that then |
15:38.19 | freemangordon | ok |
15:39.56 | merlin1991 | do we have any other not reported bugs besides the bt name issue currently (not reported as in not in the bugtracker)? |
15:43.46 | luf | merlin1991: do you mean also bluez-4.99? |
15:44.28 | merlin1991 | luf: I mean in the current -testing release or is the whole bt name issue only with bluez 4.99 ? |
15:44.43 | luf | Only in bluez-4.99. |
15:45.08 | merlin1991 | oh then I missed that :/+ |
15:45.20 | merlin1991 | s#/+#/# |
15:45.25 | luf | No problem. |
15:45.41 | merlin1991 | bah why can't infobot understand a non '/' delimiter |
15:45.42 | kerio | why should we upgrade bluez? |
15:45.56 | kerio | ~botsmack |
15:45.56 | infobot | OWW! |
15:45.58 | merlin1991 | car kit support got way better along the versions |
15:46.05 | kerio | i see |
15:47.07 | luf | It's not only about car kit support ;) |
15:47.31 | merlin1991 | luf: but that's the first thing our end users will notice ;) |
15:47.31 | luf | But sure I had to create some backports for bluez 4.60 into the new obexd. |
15:48.30 | luf | There are a lot of fixes (and also new features like transfer audio from PC to N900). |
15:50.03 | merlin1991 | btw luf any progess on MAP support? |
15:50.26 | luf | Yes but not enough yet. |
15:50.52 | luf | I'm near to compile the initial N900 support. |
15:51.09 | merlin1991 | wonders if his car kit now properly works with the *new* obexd |
15:51.14 | merlin1991 | I didn't get to test it yet :D |
15:51.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | carkit?? forget it |
15:52.00 | merlin1991 | hm? |
15:52.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | carkit is a insane moto invention for USB |
15:52.09 | luf | merlin1991: oh :) |
15:52.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | morning btw |
15:52.48 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: also a valid name for bluetooth phone support in car radios |
15:53.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'd think that has to be named CKP or sth with *P then |
15:54.04 | merlin1991 | btw freemangordon when do you think I should try to extract some stats about the -thumb repo ? |
15:54.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | well, PAN also doesn't end on 'P' |
15:55.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | and DUN neither |
15:55.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | strange |
15:56.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | coughs and spits out three 'DICOM', a 'PACS' and two slimy 'HL7' |
15:57.23 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: there's also HID, OBEX, SIM, SCO, SYNC, SYNCH and WAPB |
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16:12.38 | kerio | DocScrutinizer told status: [ ] TOLD [ ] NOT TOLD [X] BLUETOLD 2.0+EDR |
16:13.00 | luf | kerio: what is it? :D |
16:15.29 | kerio | joerg got told |
16:16.09 | kerio | freemangordon: is gstdsp better than openmax, performance-wise? |
16:16.22 | kerio | (if i don't overclock the DSP) |
16:18.36 | luf | merrlin1991: MAP support compiled (first time) :) |
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16:51.19 | fw190 | freemangordon: just to inform you - Ubuntu developeras are all alone now. I don't like this s*it and I'm giving it a kick in the ... |
16:52.14 | fw190 | freemangordon: damn I'm mad. This is supposed to be LTS. end of troling. Tie to prepare operation openSuse |
16:55.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | fw190: better avoid the opensuseNN.0 releases |
16:55.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | or adopt then only after several months |
16:55.50 | fw190 | I have downloaded 12.2 |
16:55.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds OK |
16:56.03 | fw190 | the dvd version |
16:56.12 | fw190 | I will install it as is |
16:56.27 | fw190 | and run on it firefox writer gimp and chromium |
16:56.31 | fw190 | nothing more |
16:56.37 | kerio | fw190: install debian |
16:56.42 | fw190 | hope it will be rock solid |
16:56.51 | fw190 | I do not know how to set debian up |
16:57.02 | kerio | it's easy |
16:57.04 | kerio | there's an installer |
16:57.10 | fw190 | I'mean as an edn user it all should wokr out of the box |
16:57.12 | kerio | you just need to know unix stuff |
16:57.16 | fw190 | nope |
16:57.28 | fw190 | I use it because I'm a beliver ;p |
16:57.36 | fw190 | N900 changed me |
16:57.37 | kerio | really, i installed it on my laptop and almost everything worked out of the box |
16:57.42 | fw190 | but no time for lerning |
16:57.43 | kerio | and this is a macbook pro |
16:57.48 | kerio | with weird, proprietary hardware |
16:58.13 | merlin1991 | kerio: get me 3d accel for a nvidia gtx 560 in debian stable and I'll happily switch over ; |
16:58.17 | merlin1991 | s/;/;)/ |
16:58.26 | fw190 | kerio: does it have some sort of update proces like ubuntu? |
16:58.37 | fw190 | merlin1991: what is your distro? |
16:58.40 | fw190 | ;) |
16:58.44 | merlin1991 | kubuntu :/ |
16:59.02 | kerio | merlin1991: huh... apt-get install nvidia-glx |
16:59.03 | merlin1991 | fw190: debian has the same package management below the surface as the n900 or ubuntu |
16:59.08 | fw190 | so it's like suse but from bunthuk team |
16:59.14 | fw190 | I know |
16:59.21 | merlin1991 | kerio: driver is too old, hw too new :/ |
16:59.27 | fw190 | 3 years and Ilearne a few commands |
16:59.34 | fw190 | and this suse thing scares me a bit |
16:59.36 | kerio | use the nvidia-installer then \_o_/ |
16:59.46 | merlin1991 | kerio: lol |
16:59.49 | kerio | and you can specify the version, i thought |
16:59.51 | merlin1991 | that one killed my kernel often enough |
17:00.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | fw190: it *scares* you??? |
17:00.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | how's that? |
17:00.33 | fw190 | well new commands nto like apt dpkg and so on ;) |
17:00.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | too many dialogs during install? |
17:00.48 | kerio | fw190: by that, merlin1991 means that ubuntu and maemo stole debian's package management system |
17:00.55 | kerio | because it's the best |
17:01.07 | merlin1991 | yep debian was first :D |
17:01.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | fw190: fsck the commands, you got Yast in menu, under "system" |
17:01.17 | fw190 | DocScrutinizer: could you elaborte about those version |
17:01.21 | fw190 | update |
17:01.36 | fw190 | is there something I should know about it |
17:01.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? |
17:01.48 | fw190 | well I'm suposed to avoid 0 |
17:02.11 | fw190 | so when I install 12.2 I'm supposed to not allow updating to hings with 0? |
17:02.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, just I found the .0 releases not as conventient and bugfree as the .>0 |
17:02.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, you can update any time |
17:03.07 | merlin1991 | kerio: do you know of a sw that crosschecks the debian security releases with the package on your system? |
17:03.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | though *I* actually slip the .0 updates |
17:03.21 | fw190 | Ah ok |
17:03.25 | merlin1991 | since I run so much stuff on my server I'm starting to worry about updates :D |
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17:03.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | my last install seen no real upgrade for >3 years |
17:04.15 | fw190 | DocScrutinizer: I've decided to switch - it's time to backup 200gb damn - 3h oc copying... |
17:04.25 | fw190 | of |
17:05.23 | kerio | merlin1991: well... |
17:05.24 | kerio | apt? |
17:05.48 | merlin1991 | :D |
17:06.07 | kerio | i think aptitude can filter by repository |
17:06.17 | merlin1991 | nah I meant something that sends me emails in case there is new stuff, didn't want to go and set up sendmail + cronscripts for that |
17:06.27 | kerio | i see |
17:06.37 | kerio | well, there's the debian-security mailing list :P |
17:07.03 | kerio | this reminds me |
17:07.05 | kerio | i should upgrade my server |
17:07.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | just though exactly same |
17:07.17 | merlin1991 | currently is about todo that |
17:07.42 | merlin1991 | also found out, that there are mysql* pacakge on the server even though everything is run on postgres |
17:07.45 | merlin1991 | dafuq? |
17:08.19 | freemangordon | merlin1991: what stats? for users? |
17:08.26 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: yep |
17:08.46 | freemangordon | well, there is a new update today, maybe it is good time now :) |
17:09.00 | merlin1991 | you'll push another one today? |
17:09.07 | freemangordon | yes |
17:09.09 | freemangordon | naah |
17:09.15 | freemangordon | i've already pushed it |
17:09.25 | freemangordon | :D |
17:09.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | yum check-update |
17:09.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq! useradd lpapp |
17:10.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | history can be scary |
17:10.26 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: ah I see |
17:10.36 | freemangordon | kerio: http://code.google.com/p/gst-dsp/ |
17:10.55 | merlin1991 | I guess I could build stats about 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1+thumb1, but 2 days probably don't have everyone updated |
17:11.48 | merlin1991 | I'll be back in a minute, the quassel-core version in debian does not understand it if you kill the postgres server underneath it :P |
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17:13.40 | merlin1991 | there we go :D |
17:13.46 | freemangordon | fw190: i'll install ubuntu on a laptop in a few minutes (when the DVD is burnt) :P |
17:14.14 | fw190 | freemangordon: grrrr don't even dare to make me mad |
17:14.28 | fw190 | today this shit didn't allow me to enter the dust bin |
17:14.46 | fw190 | pidgin after minimalization disapeared |
17:15.01 | fw190 | don't waste your precious cd |
17:15.06 | fw190 | burn some music on it |
17:15.28 | freemangordon | merlin1991: yes, you'd better start with today's update, I don;t think more than a 4-5 people updated since it was oout |
17:15.51 | merlin1991 | I'll build the stats anyway, so we can se how fast your users move ,) |
17:16.01 | freemangordon | fw190: unity desktop? |
17:16.04 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ok |
17:16.11 | fw190 | freemangordon: yep |
17:16.28 | freemangordon | fw190: remove that shit and install gnome classic or lxde |
17:16.42 | merlin1991 | hm funky, almost not traffic on my ipv6 addresss |
17:16.53 | fw190 | I'm going for openSuse ;) |
17:17.02 | freemangordon | ok |
17:17.32 | fw190 | canonical has decided to dump gnome so why I should stick with it and fork this ubuntu buntukh |
17:17.51 | fw190 | besides - when something goes wrong with suse it will all be Docs fault ;) ;) |
17:17.53 | freemangordon | fw190: BTW I am installing ubuntu on an ex-windows' user laptop, not much of a choice |
17:18.22 | fw190 | well my mother in law has it installed also |
17:18.26 | fw190 | ;) |
17:20.40 | kerio | what did canonical do, now? |
17:22.40 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: so far 70 dl for thumb2 |
17:22.48 | kerio | :D |
17:23.05 | kerio | which downloads? |
17:23.09 | kerio | the mp .deb? |
17:23.10 | merlin1991 | and we had 227 dl for thumb1 |
17:23.13 | merlin1991 | kerio: yes |
17:23.46 | kerio | does while true ; do wget mp-fremantle-community-pr.deb ; done |
17:23.52 | freemangordon | hmm, not bad, I was expecting something like 20-30 :D:D:D |
17:24.09 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: I'm sure you know this, is there a commandline tool to reduce a set of lines to unique lines? (preferable stdin to stdout) |
17:24.15 | kerio | merlin1991: uniq |
17:24.19 | freemangordon | yes |
17:24.20 | kerio | well, sort | uniq |
17:24.37 | kerio | uniq merges consecutive equal lines |
17:24.41 | merlin1991 | reads up on awk docs again |
17:24.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | what do you wanna do? |
17:24.55 | merlin1991 | because ofc I need to filter the timestamp otherwise I'll not be uniqe |
17:25.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | remove \n? |
17:25.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | cut |
17:25.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | man cut |
17:25.46 | merlin1991 | currently reading :) |
17:26.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably something like cut -d " " -f 1- |
17:27.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | or sed 's/^[0-9:]* //' |
17:27.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | or sed 's/^[-0-9:]* //' |
17:27.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | even simpler: |
17:28.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | sed 's/^[^ ]* //' |
17:28.14 | merlin1991 | grep mp-fremantle-community-pr /var/log/lighttpd/access.log | grep thumb2 | cut -d " " -f 1 | sort | uniq | wc -l |
17:28.18 | merlin1991 | :D |
17:28.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
17:29.05 | kerio | there's been plenty of +thumb2 releases |
17:29.06 | kerio | i think |
17:29.40 | merlin1991 | kerio: the mp had +thumb2 only once |
17:29.46 | kerio | are you sure? :o |
17:29.59 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: that reduced the uniqe (per ip) dls for thumb1 to 221 |
17:30.06 | merlin1991 | kerio: yes because before that we had -thumb2 ;) |
17:30.12 | kerio | ...ohoho |
17:30.12 | kerio | right |
17:30.28 | merlin1991 | also access logs start only after +thumb1 |
17:30.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | why not grep mp-fremantle-community-pr.*thumb2 /var/log/lighttpd/access.log |
17:30.48 | merlin1991 | because that's too easy ;) |
17:30.55 | kerio | add some | cat | in there |
17:31.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | or |dd| |
17:32.11 | merlin1991 | okay okay grep mp-fremantle-community-pr.*thumb1 /var/log/lighttpd/access.log | cut -d " " -f 1 | sort | uniq | wc -l it is |
17:32.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | uniq - report or omit repeated lines: -f, --skip-fields=N |
17:33.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | -s, --skip-chars=N |
17:33.16 | merlin1991 | skips first x files/chars |
17:33.21 | kerio | hm |
17:33.22 | merlin1991 | but I actually need to skip after first field |
17:33.34 | kerio | surprisingly, it's also in busybox uniq |
17:34.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | FIELDS! not files |
17:34.41 | merlin1991 | yeah |
17:34.52 | merlin1991 | still doesn't help me ;) |
17:35.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, since you forgot to do same for sort ;-P |
17:36.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | sort - sort lines of text files: -k, --key=POS1[,POS2] |
17:36.51 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: won't work either |
17:37.16 | merlin1991 | because ipv6 vs ipv4 addressses and stuff like 25.25.25.25 vs 128.128.128.128 |
17:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
17:37.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
17:37.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-D |
17:38.25 | merlin1991 | nice, so we can scrap the call to uniq |
17:38.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, you actually want f1 *only* |
17:38.33 | merlin1991 | yep |
17:38.57 | merlin1991 | because it's ip, host, timestamp, request |
17:39.32 | merlin1991 | s/host/domain/ |
17:39.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, yeah |
17:43.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | watsup with da meeting this week now? |
17:44.41 | fw190 | someone was pointing me to debian. I want to download jus to be safe an image but don't know which http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/i386/iso-cd/ |
17:45.37 | merlin1991 | hehe extras-devel light has 9 unique ips that use it xD |
17:46.36 | kerio | :D |
17:46.41 | kerio | how many of those are from italy? |
17:46.57 | kerio | i bet it's like three |
17:47.37 | merlin1991 | kerio: do you know a good ip -> region tool / website? |
17:48.08 | kerio | http://www.geoiptool.com/ is the first google result |
17:48.40 | merlin1991 | well I'd rather use a commandline tool :D |
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17:52.23 | fw190 | kerio: it was you haha backscrol is good. So which debian image should I pick up- the one i386 with the highest number? |
17:52.28 | kerio | srsly though, it should be like three or four IPs from italy |
17:52.35 | kerio | fw190: debian image? :o |
17:52.52 | kerio | are you installing it on a computer? |
17:52.59 | kerio | does this computer have an internet connection through ethernet? |
17:53.04 | merlin1991 | kerio: 1 time bulgaria, and 4 austria 4 italy :p |
17:53.12 | kerio | :D |
17:53.26 | fw190 | kerio: well as a backup if suse is a fail i will have an usb stick with the debian image |
17:53.34 | kerio | fw190: suse will be a fail |
17:53.38 | fw190 | kerio: right now I have to backup 200GB |
17:53.43 | kerio | it's got some serious problems |
17:53.48 | kerio | 1) it's not debian |
17:53.56 | kerio | 2) desktop distros are bullshit |
17:54.07 | kerio | 3) no apt |
17:54.15 | fw190 | kerio: I think that you ant to make Doc angry ahahahha |
17:54.38 | kerio | who, me? |
17:54.39 | kerio | never :3 |
17:54.54 | kerio | merlin1991: hmm, reverse dns on the ips? |
17:55.09 | merlin1991 | too much information ;) |
17:55.12 | kerio | at least a couple should be *.clienti.tiscali.it |
17:55.14 | fw190 | kerio: so which one from this: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/i386/iso-cd/ |
17:55.36 | kerio | fw190: do you have internet on the computer you're installing to? |
17:55.43 | fw190 | yes |
17:55.47 | merlin1991 | then http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso |
17:55.52 | kerio | is this to be used as a desktop? |
17:55.56 | kerio | merlin1991: debian 6 is stable D: |
17:56.11 | kerio | fw190: if it's a desktop, then you *really* want debian testing |
17:56.21 | fw190 | kerio: the thing is that I will wipe up the whole laptop with suse so debian will come into action when suse is a fail |
17:56.26 | merlin1991 | well the question was which one from "this" so I went for the netinst image in his list :D |
17:56.37 | fw190 | kerio: it's thinkpadedge |
17:56.43 | fw190 | lenovo |
17:56.49 | kerio | well, i meant |
17:56.51 | kerio | it's to be used as a user |
17:57.10 | kerio | laptops are even more advised to use testing |
17:57.14 | fw190 | kerio: yes - must be rock solid without bell and whistles |
17:57.28 | kerio | define "rock solid"... |
17:57.55 | fw190 | kerio: no problem like with buntukh today that I can not acces dust bin, and closing pidgin doesn't close it |
17:58.10 | kerio | hm |
17:58.11 | fw190 | and writer after minmalizing deisapears |
17:58.14 | fw190 | but is active |
17:58.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: testing doesn't sound like rock solid |
17:58.31 | kerio | i'd still install debian testing over debian stable, for a non-server |
17:59.42 | fw190 | kerio: I'm a writer, don't tweak the system, it just should work with basic programs |
17:59.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | fw190: btw opensuse installer even lets you install multiboot |
18:00.32 | fw190 | DocScrutinizer: I've heard that I can't have debian and suse alongside because of rpm deb conflict but this may be bullshit |
18:00.47 | kerio | wat? |
18:01.08 | kerio | no, that's just a difference in packaging |
18:01.14 | kerio | dual boot doesn't work that way |
18:01.15 | kerio | :) |
18:01.21 | kerio | fw190: install debian stable, i suppose |
18:01.59 | fw190 | will give it a shot if suse fails completeltly |
18:02.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | fw190: of yourse you can, on separate partitions |
18:03.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course* |
18:03.36 | fw190 | my disk has 500GB but 230 is for data. hmmm maybe I would make a partition with 100GB and install debian alongside but will I have acces to all files from both systems? |
18:03.47 | kerio | merlin1991: i actually prefer businesscard over netinst |
18:03.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | check "partitioning" tab in suse installer |
18:04.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
18:04.09 | kerio | it only has enough to download the rest of the installer :D |
18:05.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | fw190: I now have 3 distinct systems on my laptop, each mounts the partitions of the other 2 under some /systemA/ and /systemC/ dirs (systemB in this case) |
18:06.06 | fw190 | thanks for the tip |
18:06.27 | fw190 | chatting here gives a lot of new informations |
18:06.47 | fw190 | but I suppose that this si not the right place for this as this is maemo-ssu ;) |
18:07.15 | merlin1991 | hm /me wondedrs |
18:07.17 | merlin1991 | ~ot |
18:07.18 | infobot | well, ot is for Off-Topic WebOS general chat, and it can take place in #webos-general |
18:07.26 | merlin1991 | wut? |
18:07.28 | merlin1991 | ~maemo-ssu |
18:07.33 | merlin1991 | heh |
18:07.40 | merlin1991 | see we have no policy about off topic stuff |
18:10.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo-ssu ot is we're not #webos, so our policy is different ;-). See ~_default ot |
18:10.38 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
18:10.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ot |
18:10.43 | infobot | from memory, ot is for Off-Topic WebOS general chat, and it can take place in #webos-general |
18:10.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
18:11.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~chanopt |
18:11.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chanopt |
18:12.26 | freemangordon | merlin1991: so, what is the final count? |
18:12.41 | merlin1991 | 221 for thumb1 and 70 for thumb2 |
18:12.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~chanset |
18:12.59 | freemangordon | the fuck, too many :) |
18:13.28 | merlin1991 | manually updates software on the server which didn't come packaged |
18:14.19 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: 79 by now ;) |
18:14.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chanset #maemo-ssu factoidSearch $chan _default |
18:14.35 | infobot | Setting factoidSearch for #maemo-ssu to '$chan _default'. |
18:14.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ot |
18:14.44 | infobot | rumour has it, ot is we're not #webos, so our policy is different ;-). See ~_default ot |
18:16.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo-ssu |
18:16.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo |
18:17.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo power |
18:17.21 | infobot | methinks #maemo power is http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Power_Consumption |
18:17.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo omp |
18:17.31 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, #maemo omp is Open Media Player |
18:21.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | server reboot, yay |
18:22.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just hope it will come up again ;-P |
18:23.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly does a friggin fsck now |
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18:25.14 | kerio | ~omp |
18:25.19 | kerio | hrmpf |
18:25.30 | kerio | ~listkeys omp |
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18:26.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chanset #maemo-ssu factoidSearch $chan #maemo _default |
18:26.59 | infobot | Setting factoidSearch for #maemo-ssu to '$chan #maemo _default'; was '$chan _default'. |
18:27.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ot |
18:27.34 | infobot | ot is probably we're not #webos, so our policy is different ;-). See ~_default ot |
18:27.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~omp |
18:27.39 | infobot | rumour has it, omp is Open Media Player |
18:28.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: happy now? |
18:28.30 | kerio | yep :3 |
18:29.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo can not comply: you |
18:29.45 | infobot | can not comply: you -- created by pimpinmonk <diego@1Cust246.tnt22.bos2.da.uu.net> at Fri Jul 6 02:11:11 2001 (4099 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
18:29.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal can not comply: you |
18:29.55 | infobot | "can not comply: you" is "<REPLY> are just too dumb" |
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18:30.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
18:30.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~can not comply: you |
18:30.42 | infobot | can not comply: you are just too dumb |
18:32.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~computer engineering program at usu |
18:32.05 | infobot | i guess computer engineering program at usu is pretty electrical engineering intensive. |
18:32.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~i don't compatibilty |
18:32.45 | infobot | You don't compatibilty? |
18:32.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~i don't compatibilty. |
18:32.59 | infobot | You don't compatibilty.? |
18:33.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal i don't compatibilty |
18:33.11 | infobot | You don't compatibilty? |
18:33.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq |
18:34.04 | merlin1991 | ~lart n9 browser |
18:34.04 | infobot | whacks n9 browser with a giant beaver's tail |
18:34.10 | deepy | ~wut |
18:34.11 | infobot | it has been said that wut is a lamer way of saying what |
18:34.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo i don't compatibilty |
18:34.20 | infobot | i don't compatibilty -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
18:34.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo i don't |
18:34.45 | infobot | there's no such factoid as i don't, DocScrutinizer05 |
18:35.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~i don't |
18:35.02 | infobot | You don't? |
18:35.11 | merlin1991 | ~i don't even |
18:35.12 | infobot | You don't even? |
18:35.33 | kerio | ~i lol |
18:35.33 | infobot | You lol? |
18:35.40 | kerio | ~i do |
18:35.40 | infobot | You do? |
18:35.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys i don't |
18:35.51 | kerio | ~i |
18:35.51 | infobot | well, kerio is <DocScrutinizer> [...] kerio is correct [...] |
18:35.55 | kerio | :D |
18:36.01 | kerio | ~i love you |
18:36.01 | infobot | You love you? |
18:36.05 | kerio | ...yes |
18:36.14 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: infobot feature request: ELIZA parser |
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18:36.42 | merlin1991 | ~i |
18:36.42 | infobot | you are probably the secret master of CSSU |
18:36.54 | merlin1991 | ~merlin1991 |
18:36.55 | infobot | somebody said merlin1991 was the secret master of CSSU |
18:36.58 | merlin1991 | wtf |
18:37.04 | merlin1991 | ~factinfo merlin1991 |
18:37.04 | infobot | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
18:37.04 | infobot | merlin1991 -- created by DocScrutinizer <~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Tue Jul 3 23:04:19 2012 (83 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by merlin1991, 10s ago. |
18:37.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo sokay, i don't have an arm tool that works, which |
18:37.16 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: there's no such factoid as sokay, i don't have an arm tool that works, which |
18:37.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~'factinfo sokay, i don't have an arm tool that works, which |
18:37.56 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: did you notice the error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required), wtf was that about? |
18:38.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | a lil bug |
18:42.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: try ~lock merlin1991 |
18:42.35 | merlin1991 | ~lock merlin1991 |
18:42.46 | merlin1991 | pm with not allowed |
18:42.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~uptime |
18:42.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | still alive |
18:43.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo merlin1991 |
18:43.22 | infobot | merlin1991 -- created by DocScrutinizer <~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Tue Jul 3 23:04:19 2012 (83 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by merlin1991, 6m 28s ago. |
18:48.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: o.O??? -> |
18:48.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-25 20:47:12] <FIQ> ~FIQ is FIQ |
18:48.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-25 20:47:12] <infobot> FIQ: okay |
18:48.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-25 20:47:22] <FIQ> ~lock FIQ |
18:48.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-25 20:47:22] <infobot> locking factoid fiq, FIQ |
18:50.21 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: possibly because you set the factoid? |
18:50.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | so forget and set new! |
18:51.00 | merlin1991 | why would I want to lock it though? :D |
18:51.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, it's supposed to work this way |
18:51.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | so others can't mess with your nick factoid |
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18:53.35 | fw190 | DocScrutinizer05: one more question - should I pick KDE or Gnome? What do you use? |
18:53.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | I use KDE, but hate it since kde4 |
18:54.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hate gnome since 5h after first time started it |
18:54.23 | fw190 | this is funn to read |
18:54.29 | fw190 | so there is no good choice |
18:54.37 | fw190 | maybe lxde? |
18:55.02 | merlin1991 | fw190: with lxde I always had the feeling, that I'm missing all the posibilities of proper desktop integration |
18:55.14 | luf | fw190: it depends what you want/prefer. |
18:56.33 | fw190 | well I think that KDE from live cd looked good |
18:56.51 | fw190 | speed is for me important so probably lxde would be the winner |
18:57.05 | fw190 | but stability is the key |
18:57.10 | fw190 | after buntukh |
18:57.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | KDE isn't exactly bad, wsp when you don't use silly dolphin or what's the name filemanager |
18:57.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | use konqueror instead! |
18:57.32 | merlin1991 | actually dolphin works for me |
18:57.53 | luf | fw190: The best way is to test it and choose what you want ;) |
18:58.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I heard it's a "save as" widget that lost its main() |
18:58.19 | luf | other way it'll be the begin of another flame :D |
18:58.37 | fw190 | flames are good the clear the earth for a new start ;p |
18:58.54 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: what are you missing in dolphin that konqueror has? |
18:58.59 | fw190 | but i think that I will try this KDE thingy |
18:59.19 | luf | Ugh ... it begins :D |
18:59.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: forgot |
18:59.49 | merlin1991 | luf: I'm not here to flame, just interested what I migth miss (since buntkuh comes with dolphin and I never tried konqueror) |
19:00.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | probaqbly all the embedded viewers |
19:00.33 | luf | merlin1991: It's just like it usually begins. Some innocent question :D |
19:00.36 | fw190 | hmm otoh I know LXDE from easy debian - look sok and it's fast |
19:00.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and other cute stuff |
19:01.18 | fw190 | this dolphin and konqueror thing- probably I wont even feel the diference while opening my writer file |
19:01.25 | merlin1991 | hehe |
19:01.46 | merlin1991 | I really hate the dolphin per folder settings philosophy though |
19:02.09 | merlin1991 | it drops a friggin .dolphin file when you change a view setting inside a folder away from the default |
19:02.32 | merlin1991 | almost as bad as thumbs.db and desktop.ini which you get everywhere on windows |
19:02.44 | luf | BTW I like gnome ;) |
19:03.10 | merlin1991 | and it totally nukes the idea of multi user desktop |
19:03.15 | fw190 | luf: KDE is something NEW for me like Unity so this should be a leson for me |
19:03.50 | fw190 | luf: bessides since today only Unity developers like Unity - yesterday there were them and me |
19:05.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: LOL, good point |
19:05.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | (btw konqueror *can* do that too) |
19:06.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | though I think it's called .desktop there |
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19:07.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | and only drops when you tell it to do so |
19:09.14 | _ade_ | freemangordon: ping |
19:18.11 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: you didn't push your thumb1 (I expect that is the dbg symbols fix) changes to gitorious |
19:18.22 | merlin1991 | I mean regarding openssl |
19:19.53 | kerio | merlin1991: afaik no |
19:20.20 | kerio | hmm... it is thumb1 though |
19:20.25 | kerio | maybe he already did? |
19:21.25 | merlin1991 | kerio: you might want to reread my sentence :) |
19:21.43 | kerio | i meant that i don't know if he actually made them |
19:28.46 | merlin1991 | he did, at least he uploaded a thumb1 pacakge to the apt repo, but gitorious only contains changes up to tumb0 |
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19:36.03 | kerio | freemangordon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU |
19:41.11 | merlin1991 | kerio: :P |
19:41.38 | tadzik | . o O ( thumb2 style ) |
19:44.25 | kerio | oppan thumb2 style |
19:45.24 | tadzik | :D |
19:45.27 | tadzik | e-e-e-e |
19:45.52 | tadzik | that reminds me of the update |
19:46.08 | tadzik | haha |
19:47.46 | Raimu | thumb-one style sounds more like the original. |
19:48.06 | kerio | yeah but the ISA is called Thumb2 |
19:48.09 | luf | shit obexd-0.46 contains code which lead to segfault :( |
19:48.26 | merlin1991 | uh oh |
19:48.28 | luf | They even never tested it :( |
19:49.07 | kerio | Installed: 0.46-1maemo3+0cssu2 |
19:49.10 | kerio | SOOOOOOOOO |
19:49.19 | tadzik | *scnr* http://imgur.com/doGXw |
19:49.25 | luf | Ugh I lost my time because I looking for the problem and I didn't believe it's in .obexd code. |
19:49.57 | merlin1991 | so that's something that could potentially break on any device? |
19:49.59 | merlin1991 | bad news! |
19:50.24 | luf | kerio: the failed code is disabled by default. And it's even unreachable because no implementation of fucntions to retrieve data for MAP ;) |
19:50.30 | kerio | oh |
19:50.31 | kerio | phew |
19:50.36 | kerio | so what's the problem? |
19:51.14 | merlin1991 | kerio: simple, we do want map and luf implements those functions ;) |
19:51.19 | luf | merlin1991: no. Just my problem during devel MAP support. |
19:51.50 | luf | And my lost time because of false predicate ;) |
19:52.38 | kerio | what's MAP again? |
19:53.33 | luf | Message Access Profile ;) |
20:01.20 | tadzik | I thought of Meta-Abject Protocol :P |
20:02.05 | tadzik | I'm on new thumb2 now, seems to work alright |
20:30.21 | luf | Whooops fixed :) Just swap two lines (in several functions) :D |
20:30.45 | merlin1991 | lemme guess function calls with side effects? |
20:31.42 | tadzik | strictly speaking, that won't be a function anymore :P |
20:33.52 | luf | No. Just: pointer2 = pointer1 + length; set_size(pointer1); where pointer1 should be NULL prior to set_size ;) |
20:35.16 | luf | :) Ok I can list messages in MAP :) |
20:36.52 | merlin1991 | err what does set_size(pointer1) do there? |
20:42.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: what's with this fuzzy mmeting appointment now? |
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20:42.24 | merlin1991 | we'll see if we have everony around tomorrow, or on thursday |
20:42.36 | luf | something like realloc I guess. |
20:45.30 | luf | I'm leaving today. BTW there is still some problem as I can't list messages 2 times (it crash obexd) :D So development continuing. |
20:47.59 | merlin1991 | have a good night :) |
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