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| 09:19.11 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ping |
| 09:19.22 | freemangordon | merlin1991: there is a problem in the new -testing -mp |
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| 19:34.24 | Raimu | Haha, CSSU updates keep removing status-area-orientation-gadget from me |
| 19:34.50 | freemangordon | Raimu: did you use HAM to update? |
| 19:34.54 | Raimu | Yup |
| 19:34.58 | freemangordon | weird |
| 19:37.58 | ShadowJK | Updating requires 1.77MB |
| 19:38.17 | ShadowJK | is this first time cssu thumb increases disk used? :D |
| 19:38.43 | freemangordon | ShadowJK: I doubt |
| 19:56.21 | freemangordon | ShadowJK: make sure you're updating -thumb, not -testing :) |
| 19:58.54 | ShadowJK | the packages did have thumb in the name |
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| 20:01.29 | freemangordon | ShadowJK: you upgrade by hand? |
| 20:01.40 | freemangordon | or with HAM? |
| 20:03.07 | MrPingu | freemangordon: Seems update broke FM-transmitter? |
| 20:03.49 | freemangordon | MrPingu: WFM, any logs? |
| 20:04.45 | MrPingu | hmmm have been some time out of this... don't think I have syslog running |
| 20:09.49 | MrPingu | Well, help me a bit. I forgot some of this stuff |
| 20:10.11 | MrPingu | Dmesg shows nothing |
| 20:10.20 | MrPingu | What else do we got? |
| 20:14.45 | MrPingu | Hmmpf, nothing shows up in syslog either |
| 20:15.45 | MrPingu | I can only use 76,0 mhz, all other frequencies give pop-up: Unable to use fm-transmitter |
| 20:16.02 | MrPingu | But I have no equipment that can listen on 76mhz :P |
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| 20:16.29 | MrPingu | So probably that frequency doesn't work either |
| 20:16.51 | MrPingu | Do you use modified fmtx-binary? |
| 20:18.27 | ShadowJK | freemangordon; HAM, all the packages have -thumb in the name |
| 20:18.45 | ShadowJK | Actually it told me insufficient battery, so it'll happen later :) |
| 20:19.40 | MrPingu | While we are at it, atleast I am |
| 20:19.50 | MrPingu | Dec 30 21:26:32 Nokia-N900 hildon-input-method[1189]: GLIB MESSAGE default - Adding of word failed, enlarging Personal dictionary |
| 20:20.40 | MrPingu | ec 30 21:26:32 Nokia-N900 hildon-input-method[1189]: GLIB WARNING ** default - The dictionary limit reached ... aborting |
| 20:21.02 | MrPingu | Why that shows up in my syslog? |
| 20:23.02 | freemangordon | because custom dictionary for word prediction is limited |
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| 20:26.25 | MrPingu | Can I clean it? |
| 20:26.52 | freemangordon | nfc, never tried |
| 20:29.47 | MrPingu | Nvm then |
| 20:30.46 | MrPingu | that guy on TMO had the same issue, regarding FMTX |
| 20:31.27 | freemangordon | MrPingu: what are your regional settings? |
| 20:32.10 | MrPingu | Regional settings are Nederland/Dutch, device language English(UK) |
| 20:34.09 | freemangordon | MrPingu: did you have some "tweaked" fmtxd installed? |
| 20:34.36 | MrPingu | freemangordon: Nope, quite clean thumb install |
| 20:35.52 | freemangordon | MrPingu: so, the only usable freq is 76 MHz? |
| 20:36.22 | freemangordon | MrPingu: which firmware? global? |
| 20:36.43 | MrPingu | freemangordon: I am not sure, I have no equipment that can listen that low |
| 20:37.39 | freemangordon | MrPingu: what firmware do you have? |
| 20:37.50 | freemangordon | is it global? |
| 20:37.58 | MrPingu | But for the UI, only 76mhz works. and I am on Global yes |
| 20:42.38 | MrPingu | Would modified binary fix it? |
| 20:46.50 | freemangordon | MrPingu: this *is* the modified binary :( |
| 20:48.22 | MrPingu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.46 | MrPingu | Was on another N900 though, however same regional settings |
| 20:49.11 | freemangordon | could you give me the output of "ls -al /usr/sbin/fmtxd" |
| 20:49.24 | MrPingu | Sure, give me a sec |
| 20:50.43 | MrPingu | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 30912 Dec 1 13:35 /usr/sbin/fmtxd |
| 20:50.54 | freemangordon | same here |
| 20:51.22 | MrPingu | Which regional settings? |
| 20:51.36 | freemangordon | just changed to netherlands :D |
| 20:52.08 | freemangordon | MrPingu: could you do (as root in terminal): |
| 20:52.21 | freemangordon | killall fmtxd |
| 20:52.45 | freemangordon | "/usr/sbin/fmtxd" without quotes |
| 20:52.52 | freemangordon | and try to enable fmtx |
| 20:54.28 | MrPingu | Same |
| 20:54.36 | MrPingu | 76mhz works but others dont |
| 20:55.08 | freemangordon | MrPingu: wait, did you open 2 terminals? |
| 20:55.23 | freemangordon | or "/usr/sbin/fmtxd" exited instantly? |
| 20:55.48 | MrPingu | I ran fmtxd as root |
| 20:55.58 | MrPingu | Still running in one xterm window |
| 20:56.01 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:56.06 | MrPingu | then enabled from UI |
| 20:56.18 | MrPingu | I have always show fmtx button set ;) |
| 20:56.28 | freemangordon | same here |
| 21:01.20 | freemangordon | MrPingu: I need some time, will ping you in couple of minutes |
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| 21:02.01 | MrPingu | freemangordon: all right, glad I can help after been away for long time :P |
| 21:09.29 | freemangordon | MrPingu: may I have the output from osso-product-info |
| 21:12.21 | freemangordon | MrPingu: also the output of "cal-tool -G fmtx_pwl" |
| 21:13.04 | MrPingu | http://pastebin.com/vVaQqtcg |
| 21:15.13 | freemangordon | WTF? OSSO_PRODUCT_REGION='English America' |
| 21:16.03 | MrPingu | Yes, this my second N900 |
| 21:16.35 | freemangordon | MrPingu: ok, both devices have fmtx not working? |
| 21:17.24 | MrPingu | I can't test on the other, a friend is currently using it because he lost his phone |
| 21:17.33 | freemangordon | ok |
| 21:18.00 | MrPingu | Will get it back in two weeks or so ;) |
| 21:18.30 | MrPingu | Cal-tool gives weird output... |
| 21:18.39 | freemangordon | yep |
| 21:18.44 | MrPingu | fccretsiranfrrNokia-N900:~# |
| 21:18.44 | freemangordon | it is binary |
| 21:19.32 | freemangordon | MrPingu: did you paste that? |
| 21:19.43 | MrPingu | Yep |
| 21:19.58 | freemangordon | I guess the dog is burried here |
| 21:20.15 | freemangordon | here it is "fccnetsinanfrn" |
| 21:21.43 | freemangordon | MrPingu: could you take hexdump of cal-tool output? |
| 21:21.49 | freemangordon | somehow? |
| 21:22.26 | MrPingu | I guess I can with your help ;) |
| 21:22.54 | freemangordon | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.14 | freemangordon | zip fmtx_pwl and attach it on the TMO thread |
| 21:23.30 | freemangordon | I'll ask the other guy to do the same |
| 21:28.25 | MrPingu | freemangordon: k |
| 21:41.38 | freemangordon | MrPingu: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1402251&postcount=3 |
| 21:41.48 | freemangordon | getting more weird |
| 21:46.39 | MrPingu | Hmm I will try that step of reregistering that binary ;) |
| 21:46.52 | freemangordon | MrPingu: what step? |
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| 21:47.37 | MrPingu | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60567 |
| 21:47.40 | MrPingu | Step 9 |
| 21:48.46 | freemangordon | don;t think that would help |
| 21:49.49 | MrPingu | step 10 then? |
| 21:50.29 | freemangordon | wait |
| 21:50.44 | ravelo_ | hi |
| 21:51.25 | freemangordon | hi |
| 21:51.37 | freemangordon | MrPingu: may I have the output of "cat /etc/sysinfod.conf | grep -B1 -A 6 fmtx" |
| 21:51.48 | MrPingu | uploaded binary btw |
| 21:51.51 | MrPingu | hi |
| 21:51.58 | freemangordon | MrPingu: thanks |
| 21:55.32 | ravelo_ | hi freemangordon |
| 21:55.44 | freemangordon | ravelo_: hi |
| 21:55.52 | freemangordon | so, how could you help? |
| 21:55.59 | ravelo_ | just heard about this channel |
| 21:56.07 | freemangordon | ravelo_: BTW, do you have n900? |
| 21:56.17 | freemangordon | or gta04? |
| 21:56.39 | ravelo_ | no, nothing yet |
| 21:56.49 | ravelo_ | not yet |
| 21:57.05 | freemangordon | but you're going to buy Neo900? |
| 21:57.10 | ravelo_ | i am developing software, so i'm interested in the software part |
| 21:57.22 | ravelo_ | yes, i am interested |
| 21:57.22 | MrPingu | http://pastebin.com/S5uzTqUL |
| 21:57.29 | freemangordon | sure, but without HW to test... |
| 21:57.42 | ravelo_ | let's assume i have the hardware |
| 21:57.49 | ravelo_ | what is to be done? |
| 21:58.12 | ravelo_ | porting existing maemo software to neo900? |
| 21:58.13 | freemangordon | ravelo_: we need to tailor the kernel to fit Maemo5 needs |
| 21:58.29 | freemangordon | ravelo_: no, we took the opposite approach |
| 21:58.39 | ravelo_ | i mean maemo OS? |
| 21:58.49 | ravelo_ | ok |
| 21:59.08 | ravelo_ | the underlying linux should work nicely with existing maemo? |
| 21:59.22 | freemangordon | unfortunately upstream does not |
| 22:00.47 | freemangordon | and we can't use stock n900 kernel as it is 2.6.28. or at least we think it will be easier to fix upstream to work with mameo 5 rather than backport what is needed for DM3730 to work with 2.6.28 |
| 22:01.23 | freemangordon | ravelo_: on the other hand it is not only kernel stuff |
| 22:02.24 | ravelo_ | freemangordon: i'd like to work more on application side |
| 22:02.39 | freemangordon | ravelo_: good |
| 22:02.45 | ravelo_ | i would need too much time for kernel stuff |
| 22:02.48 | ravelo_ | i think |
| 22:02.56 | freemangordon | yeah, sure |
| 22:03.01 | freemangordon | it takes time |
| 22:03.30 | freemangordon | ravelo_: but I am afraid that you can't do much without HW |
| 22:03.48 | freemangordon | as the other things that have to be done are in system daemons |
| 22:04.10 | freemangordon | ravelo_: hmm, are you familiar with IDA? |
| 22:04.23 | ravelo_ | ok, so i start when i have a hardware device |
| 22:04.29 | ravelo_ | no, sorry |
| 22:05.50 | ravelo_ | looks like i should first get a device |
| 22:05.56 | ravelo_ | then let's look further |
| 22:06.08 | freemangordon | ravelo_: you can by a second hand n900 for some 80 euro |
| 22:06.17 | ravelo_ | ok |
| 22:06.23 | ravelo_ | i need one anyway |
| 22:06.28 | freemangordon | and that's a perfect device to test with |
| 22:06.45 | freemangordon | (until there is a real neo900) |
| 22:07.42 | freemangordon | ravelo_: ok, waiting to hear from you. ask DocScrutinizer05 for some advices on getting second hand n900 |
| 22:07.46 | peetah | is "CSSU-thumb toolchain setup" wiki page up-to-date and safe ? |
| 22:08.00 | freemangordon | peetah: should be |
| 22:08.17 | peetah | ok so let's go ! thanks |
| 22:08.24 | freemangordon | peetah: though I don;t guarantee about the "master" SDK setup page :) |
| 22:08.59 | peetah | this one is already done : seems to be clean |
| 22:09.34 | freemangordon | peetah: maybe you will have some problems with fakeroot installation |
| 22:10.04 | freemangordon | if that happens, just copy the .so files from FREMANTLE_ARMEL target |
| 22:10.13 | freemangordon | (libfakeroot etc) |
| 22:10.57 | ravelo_ | freemangordon: thanks |
| 22:11.02 | freemangordon | ravelo_: do you have ScratchBox installed? |
| 22:11.08 | ravelo_ | no |
| 22:11.28 | freemangordon | you'll need that one if you're going to develop for n/eo900 :) |
| 22:11.31 | freemangordon | ~sb |
| 22:11.31 | infobot | from memory, sb is nice because there's a shitload of good food, and places to hang out. |
| 22:11.39 | freemangordon | ~scratchbox |
| 22:11.40 | infobot | hmm... scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, or hosted by maemo.org now, maintainer thedead1440 |
| 22:11.54 | peetah | freemangordon: applying the dpkg -i line twice seems to solve the issue I met |
| 22:12.11 | freemangordon | peetah: what was it? |
| 22:12.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo sb is >reply>see scratchbox |
| 22:12.32 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 22:12.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn |
| 22:12.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, #maemo sb is <reply>see scratchbox |
| 22:12.52 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 22:12.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~sb |
| 22:12.56 | infobot | from memory, scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, or hosted by maemo.org now, maintainer thedead1440 |
| 22:13.03 | freemangordon | waaay better :) |
| 22:13.11 | peetah | arghh can't remember... something about not being able to write in var/something |
| 22:13.19 | ravelo_ | hehe |
| 22:14.04 | freemangordon | MrPingu: nothing in that output, same as mine :( |
| 22:14.25 | freemangordon | MrPingu: did power cycle solve the issue? |
| 22:14.51 | MrPingu | Will try, :P BRB |
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| 22:19.41 | freemangordon | MrPingu: did it help? |
| 22:19.53 | MrPingu | Nope |
| 22:20.22 | freemangordon | MrPingu: BTW, I wonder - have you ever installed that fmtx-faker application? |
| 22:20.31 | MrPingu | No |
| 22:21.17 | freemangordon | hmm, weird that my CAL fmtx power limits are 110, but yours are 115 |
| 22:21.46 | freemangordon | where did you get that device from? |
| 22:22.07 | MrPingu | From GreatGonzo |
| 22:22.36 | MrPingu | Fellow community member |
| 22:22.59 | freemangordon | did you flash it? |
| 22:23.05 | MrPingu | yep |
| 22:23.15 | peetah | freemangordon: removing maemo-core-debug also removes maemo-sdk-debug, is this ok ? |
| 22:23.45 | freemangordon | peetah: should be, you don;t really need -dbg symbols in SB |
| 22:24.32 | freemangordon | MrPingu: hmm, ok, but flashing doesn't change CAL |
| 22:26.20 | peetah | freemangordon: W: GPG error: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release: Unable to read /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ - opendir (2: No such file or directory) |
| 22:26.30 | peetah | and the same for maemo.merlin1991.at |
| 22:27.11 | peetah | when apt-get update after adding those repos to sources.list |
| 22:27.11 | freemangordon | peetah: what OS is that? |
| 22:27.30 | peetah | i'm using debian testing amd64 |
| 22:28.13 | peetah | oh you mean this has to be done outside the scratchbox env ? |
| 22:28.20 | freemangordon | peetah: no such directory here either, but I don;t see errors |
| 22:28.24 | freemangordon | peetah: no |
| 22:28.47 | freemangordon | peetah: everything needs to be don from inside SB |
| 22:28.52 | freemangordon | *done |
| 22:28.57 | peetah | that's what I did |
| 22:29.02 | MrPingu | freemangordon: did you read what fmtx-faker does? |
| 22:29.25 | freemangordon | peetah: wait, this is just a warning? |
| 22:29.29 | freemangordon | ignore it :) |
| 22:29.36 | peetah | ok |
| 22:29.56 | freemangordon | MrPingu: it is not that easy, esp if I can't reproduce the problem :( |
| 22:30.42 | freemangordon | MrPingu: I have 2 devices here, both are fine |
| 22:30.50 | MrPingu | I see |
| 22:31.07 | MrPingu | but what are these 5 fmtx modes? |
| 22:31.40 | freemangordon | I suspect your CAL is screwed, I'll write your settings to my devel device and will try to see what happens |
| 22:31.52 | freemangordon | MrPingu: no idea :D |
| 22:32.28 | freemangordon | MrPingu: but I am afraid that won't happen before 1st or 2nd of January 2014 |
| 22:32.45 | MrPingu | No worries ;) |
| 22:32.54 | freemangordon | MrPingu: as a workaround you can downgrade fmtx-middleware package |
| 22:33.46 | MrPingu | Last resort :P |
| 22:34.06 | freemangordon | MrPingu: I mean - until we find what the problem is |
| 22:34.49 | peetah | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libssl0.9.8-dbg: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8n-1+maemo4+0m5) but 0.9.8n-1+maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb1 is installed |
| 22:35.13 | freemangordon | peetah: apt-get -f install? |
| 22:35.37 | freemangordon | or just remove that -dbg package |
| 22:36.25 | peetah | apt-get -f install makes thing goes on but then BABOOM ! |
| 22:37.08 | freemangordon | peetah: just remove that -dbg |
| 22:37.29 | freemangordon | peetah: ooh, don't forget to"fakeroot apt-get..." |
| 22:39.00 | peetah | Setting up libgtk2.0-0 (2:2.14.7-1maemo34+0cssu2+thumb0) ... |
| 22:39.01 | peetah | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped |
| 22:39.25 | peetah | and then of course a lot of other packages can't be setup |
| 22:39.36 | peetah | because of dependency issues |
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| 22:40.42 | MrPingu | freemangordon: |
| 22:40.53 | MrPingu | Whatever that fmtx-faker does |
| 22:41.01 | MrPingu | it fixes the problem |
| 22:41.23 | freemangordon | MrPingu: hmm, not good |
| 22:41.42 | freemangordon | peetah: vm.mmap_min_addr ? |
| 22:42.10 | freemangordon | MrPingu: post that on the thread, maybe someone else will have an idea |
| 22:42.23 | freemangordon | we can try to find the author for some help |
| 22:42.51 | MrPingu | Well you could atleast look into the source why it that package fixes it |
| 22:42.55 | freemangordon | MrPingu: sure |
| 22:43.26 | MrPingu | I will post it in that thread for sure ;) |
| 22:44.27 | MrPingu | Author is Faheem Pervez, wasn't he involved in earlhy cssu? |
| 22:44.27 | peetah | freemangordon: 65536 |
| 22:44.39 | freemangordon | peetah: :) |
| 22:45.00 | freemangordon | peetah: read "http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation" |
| 22:45.07 | freemangordon | "Known Issues in the SDK" |
| 22:45.17 | peetah | ok I should have read this part .. |
| 22:45.23 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 22:45.33 | freemangordon | MrPingu: might be |
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| 22:49.26 | peetah | setting it to 0 does not help, even after /etc/init.d/scratchbox-core restart, login and then apt-get install -f |
| 22:49.43 | freemangordon | hmm, wait |
| 22:49.47 | peetah | wait... vdso ... |
| 22:51.14 | freemangordon | peetah: try to "export PIXMAN_DISABLE=arm-neon" |
| 22:51.53 | freemangordon | maybe I should add that to wiki page |
| 22:52.14 | peetah | yep ! it goes on |
| 22:52.29 | freemangordon | with pixman disable neon? |
| 22:52.37 | peetah | yes |
| 22:52.49 | freemangordon | hmm, ok |
| 22:53.02 | freemangordon | should remember to edit the wiki page |
| 22:53.03 | peetah | I disabled vdso but it did not change anything either |
| 22:53.50 | freemangordon | peetah: you may want to add that to your /targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL_GCC472.environment |
| 22:54.18 | peetah | what's its purpose precisely ? |
| 22:55.04 | freemangordon | pixman in CSSU has runtime NEON detection, it tries to read something in /dev or /proc |
| 22:55.27 | freemangordon | but the result of that read does not match what it expects |
| 22:55.36 | peetah | ok |
| 22:55.40 | freemangordon | as it is qemu emulated ;) |
| 22:55.52 | freemangordon | thus the segfault |
| 22:57.51 | freemangordon | anyway guys, it is a bit late here, going to have some sleep, night |
| 22:57.58 | peetah | ok it seems to be fine now ! thanks for following my quest |
| 22:58.03 | freemangordon | np |
| 22:58.03 | peetah | night |
| 22:59.08 | MrPingu | Good night |
| 22:59.19 | MrPingu | is going for his bed too |
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