IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20140511

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08:51.18*** topic/#maemo-ssu is Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2014-01-01): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo9.1; Stable(2013-06-18): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6.1
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17:32.41meschendHi. Is this English only, or do people speak German here?
17:49.27silviofyou can try it. The userbase is not solid as in the good old day. Du kannst auch auf deutsch fragen :-)
17:51.52meschendAlso, Problem mit meinem n900. Habe Community ssu installiert:
17:52.15meschendv 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6.1
17:52.27DocScrutinizer51this is an english channel
17:52.53silviofDocScrutinizer51: ja? I think german is allowd for sdhort questions?!
17:53.05meschendkernel: 2.6.28.10-power52
17:53.26meschendsorry, so English. no problem. relax
17:53.29DocScrutinizer51obviously your english is better than most users' german in here
17:53.53meschendback to the issue.
17:55.35meschendmy messaging ui is continuously exiting when I type in stuff. It just exits with errpor code message
17:56.46meschendalso when I type in new addresses into the phonebook that one exits too. always when I tyype in stuff. the rest is working smoothly. no ploblems else.
17:57.04meschendI have tried reinstalling kernel and messaging-ui. no change.
17:57.08DocScrutinizer05the error code would help a lot
17:57.39meschendthere is no real error code, just saying (in German) messaging-UI is exiting.
17:57.50DocScrutinizer05I suspect your messages database gone corrupt or simply no free space left
17:58.16meschendBut there is lots of free space on all the drives. I checked
18:00.14meschendHow to rebuild messages database?
18:00.14meschendOr any log-function to take a look?
18:00.31meschendthere is no /var/log/messages in maemo, as far as I've seen
18:00.33DocScrutinizer05ls -l /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1*
18:00.42meschendok, I'll check
18:01.41DocScrutinizer05syslog (ver/log/messages, or rather /var/öog/syslog) only exists when you install package ksyslog
18:03.19meschendthe path you wrote, there is only a el-v1.db. is that a log file? or a packed thing?
18:04.35DocScrutinizer05that's the database
18:05.48meschendHow can I take a look in there?
18:06.11DocScrutinizer05mv /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db  /home/user/el-v1.db - then reboot
18:06.59DocScrutinizer05you basically cannot "look in there"
18:07.24DocScrutinizer05it's a berkley(?) db file, you need special tools to look into it
18:07.37DocScrutinizer05or an app like messages
18:08.08DocScrutinizer05moving the db file to somewhere else will cause it getting recreated empty on next boot
18:08.51DocScrutinizer05the db getting corrupted is not unheard of. Also I asked you to check for size of that file, please tell the size in kB
18:09.30meschendok.
18:10.00DocScrutinizer05there's nothing in maemo that would ever shrink or truncate or cleam out the db. So with the years it's growing beyond all reasonable size
18:10.52meschendthe size of the .db file is 425984. I don't think this is kb.
18:10.57DocScrutinizer05and a huge events db also eats lots of RAM and slows down the whole system
18:11.13DocScrutinizer05that's pretty "small"
18:11.57meschendseems quite short. I just used the "ls -l". I think this is bytes, isn't it?
18:12.18DocScrutinizer05rename/move the file, reboot and see if your problem got fixed. If not, you move db file back to original place and name and reboot again, so you won't lose your messages histroy
18:12.29DocScrutinizer05yes, bytes
18:13.25meschendone thing. this db file, does it acutalöy store the messages, or just an event logger?
18:13.32meschend*actually
18:13.39DocScrutinizer05it stores all messages
18:14.33DocScrutinizer05messages and call history iirc
18:15.22meschendah. I have only about 20 "conversations" running currently. not very many messages. So it could still be correct. Maybe like 30-40 messages altogether.
18:16.02meschendand: it doesn't crash on opening or looking at messages, only on typing! Can that be a db failure?
18:16.16DocScrutinizer05anyway your problem is hardly CSSU related
18:17.01meschendHas  the software not been updated by Community SSU?
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18:21.07meschendSay, would crashes of rtcomm be logged in ksyslog? With reasonable output?
18:21.24DocScrutinizer05irrelevant, since it's most likely not a bug introduced by CSSU, even when CSSU would have updated the package
18:22.02DocScrutinizer05and I don't know what rtcomm logs to syslog on crashing. I never seen it crashing on my system
18:23.09DocScrutinizer05anyway I seem to recall a "segfault on typing" in *very* early maemo5 versions, related to either spellchecking or outocompletion. I never ran into that since I disabled both on my system
18:23.43DocScrutinizer05can't remember the details of the issue, but it got fixed in maybe PR1.1 anyway
18:24.30DocScrutinizer05nevertheless checking and maybe disabling spellchecking and autocompletion for input method would be a reasonable test
18:24.51meschendok. worth a try. I'll look. Thanx  a lot for helping. I need to leave now. Thnx!!
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