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04:37.53 | Sidnei | hopes lh is not awake |
04:38.33 | lh | Sidnei: i am awake and i am working |
04:38.38 | lh | and in about 10 minutes |
04:38.50 | lh | i am going back to the wedding rehearsal dinner i am currently ignoring |
04:38.57 | lh | wants android irc client, then cloning machine |
04:39.01 | Sidnei | lh: oh dear |
04:39.28 | Sidnei | it can't be that bad to get an android irc client |
04:39.43 | Sidnei | i would write one in exchange for someone getting android running on my nokia n810 |
04:39.50 | Sidnei | that would be fair, no? |
04:42.12 | lh | Sidnei: i think that would be totally fair |
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07:30.22 | Sidnei | is away: I'm busy |
07:31.08 | Sidnei | is away: sleeping |
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16:30.58 | James--Crook | Sidnei: Are you developing on windows too? |
16:31.09 | Sidnei | James--Crook: yes i am |
16:31.27 | James--Crook | Are you using cygwin? |
16:31.41 | Sidnei | James--Crook: no, why should i? :) |
16:32.00 | Sidnei | James--Crook: well, i actually am using some cygwin stuff, like wget and tar |
16:32.21 | James--Crook | To run ./make_release.sh |
16:32.33 | James--Crook | (didn't work for me) |
16:32.53 | James--Crook | Got file not found *.py[co] |
16:33.00 | Sidnei | James--Crook: ah, haven't got that far |
16:33.06 | Sidnei | let me take a look |
16:33.14 | James--Crook | Zip error nothing to do (../release/django.zip) |
16:33.43 | James--Crook | So the getting started guide IS out of order. |
16:34.00 | James--Crook | 'cos I just went on to the next step. |
16:34.24 | James--Crook | (also FIND: Parameter format not correct) |
16:34.35 | Sidnei | James--Crook: i know what's going on |
16:34.49 | Sidnei | James--Crook: windows has a 'find' command too, which has different arguments |
16:35.03 | Sidnei | James--Crook: that's what's being called. you need to get cygwin before that one into your PATH |
16:35.30 | Sidnei | James--Crook: or hardcode the path to find |
16:35.34 | James--Crook | OK.. Thanks! I'll add that to the GettingStarted guide. |
16:35.51 | Sidnei | ie, change make_release.sh to call /usr/bin/find or whatever is the path |
16:35.53 | James--Crook | Did you find anything else in your getting started that needs to go on that page? |
16:36.17 | Sidnei | can't think of anything no |
16:36.20 | James--Crook | (will just change my path to put cygwin earlier. Don't have any real windows scripts) |
16:36.57 | James--Crook | ... also I've seen that tiny_mce is supposed to be being used by the app... but I don't see any pages that use it. |
16:37.13 | Sidnei | indeed, i couldn't spot anything either |
16:37.51 | James--Crook | And there's supposed to be a side-by-side partial-path, linkname thing that Dmitri did, but I don't see that either. |
16:38.21 | James--Crook | E.g. in http://localhost:8080/site/settings/edit it's one above the other. |
16:39.38 | James--Crook | Hmm... I'll ask on e-mail list. Thanks for your help. |
16:40.42 | Sidnei | np! |
16:45.56 | tlarsen | James--Crook: Dmitri did it in Firebug, as a proof of concept, but there is no way to implement his idea with form.as_table. |
17:09.47 | durin42 | tlarsen: dunno if you saw my other messages - I'll be back around an hour from now, it's lunchtime |
17:13.46 | James--Crook | tlarsen: Hmm. Thanks. Will post about this on e-mail. There may be a not-that-inelegant way. |
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17:40.27 | SRabbelier | Hey y'all |
17:42.15 | SRabbelier | James--Crook:, Sidnei: we are using tiny_mce in the Document editor, aren'tw e? |
17:42.35 | James--Crook | SRabbelier: hiya. Good to meet you at the summit Sverre. (and Todd, Pawel, Dmitri too) |
17:42.45 | SRabbelier | James--Crook: indeed! |
17:42.57 | Sidnei | SRabbelier: checking |
17:43.01 | James--Crook | SRabbelier: Are we assuming that users of Melange will have Javascript enabled? |
17:43.24 | SRabbelier | James--Crook: they better |
17:43.33 | James--Crook | 'cos I think we should state explicitly on the wiki what our assumptions are. |
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17:44.38 | Sidnei | i agree, we should make statements about popup blocking too |
17:44.41 | James--Crook | SRabbelier: Any particular place where it is vital? |
17:45.11 | James--Crook | Sidnei: What statement? |
17:45.15 | SRabbelier | atm we use it for the side-menu clicky-thingy functionality |
17:45.24 | SRabbelier | and the list view, to select how many elements are displayed |
17:45.28 | SRabbelier | we don't have any pop-ups |
17:45.34 | SRabbelier | don't think we'll use any either |
17:45.44 | James--Crook | SRabbelier: Recent addition... and may work without (just degrades to no open/close)?? |
17:45.46 | Sidnei | that we shouldn't use popups then :) |
17:46.29 | SRabbelier | James--Crook: probably, but the list will then always only show 10 items |
17:46.58 | James--Crook | ..can be detected I think and dealt with... but it's some work... |
17:47.14 | James--Crook | easier and better to say 'Javascript Required' |
17:50.07 | SRabbelier | James--Crook: +`svn` working copy. Â If you're one of the deluded souls using Windows, |
17:50.10 | SRabbelier | James--Crook: no windows bashing please |
17:50.16 | SRabbelier | I hate it too, but it's unprofessional |
17:50.54 | SRabbelier | James--Crook: aside from that, awesome update to GettingStarted :) |
17:52.58 | James--Crook | ?? Are you saying I shouldn't say 'deluded' on the getting started page? I don't think it will offend even windows developers... (I am one) |
17:53.39 | SRabbelier | James--Crook: yes, that's what I'm saying |
17:53.59 | SRabbelier | and it's not about being offended :P |
17:54.00 | James--Crook | OK. Will can 'one-of-the-deluded-souls' |
17:54.07 | SRabbelier | it just doesn't look professional |
17:54.12 | James--Crook | s/can/cut/ |
17:54.20 | SRabbelier | that would be good |
17:54.28 | SRabbelier | ibot: !botsnack |
17:54.28 | ibot | SRabbelier: thanks |
17:55.58 | James--Crook | done. |
17:56.29 | SRabbelier | James--Crook: thank you |
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19:01.16 | SRabbelier | tlarsen: are you still ill? |
19:01.23 | tlarsen | SRabbelier: yes. |
19:01.33 | SRabbelier | tlarsen: :( has it gotten better yet? |
19:01.39 | tlarsen | SRabbelier: every time I am feeling a little better, I do too much, and then I start coughing up junk. |
19:01.51 | SRabbelier | tlarsen: heh, take a day or two off ;) |
19:02.43 | durin42 | SRabbelier: if I comprehend tlarsen's personality, he's not good at resting to get healthy |
19:03.07 | tlarsen | durin42: Heh. |
19:03.18 | tlarsen | durin42: Exactly. I *hate* down time. |
19:03.33 | SRabbelier | tlarsen: take some anyway, otherwise you'll keep being only 1/4th productive |
19:04.01 | tlarsen | SRabbelier: Yeah, that is what this weekend is for. I only have to put a roof on the well house. I'm not planning on doing anything else. :) |
19:04.41 | durin42 | tlarsen: easy to spot because in college my wife would have to pull me aside and tell me to go ask profs for an excused absence from class |
19:04.52 | SRabbelier | heh |
19:04.53 | durin42 | (before she was my wife, of course) |
19:05.50 | SRabbelier | What is wrong with this line: "Fragment 30/25" |
19:05.53 | SRabbelier | rolleye |
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21:35.05 | SRabbelier | mhhh, looks like chanserv died? |
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21:35.43 | SRabbelier | either that, or Pidgin is f*cking up |
21:35.43 | scorche | just a bit slow today...you know how it goes |
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21:37.00 | SRabbelier | mhhh, was probably pdigin |
21:37.23 | scorche | it wouldnt be |
21:37.37 | SRabbelier | no? |
21:38.06 | scorche | no...unless pidgin did not identify you until then |
21:38.54 | SRabbelier | could be |
21:38.56 | SRabbelier | ah well :) |
23:52.25 | Sidnei | is away: off |