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| 09:56.28 | hahlo | can one ssh to user@somehost instead of developer? and if so what would be passwd? |
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| 10:19.17 | jonni | hahlo: by default no, but if you do "su user; passwd" then you can set the password to user |
| 10:20.15 | hahlo | ok thanks |
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| 13:37.06 | herdingcat | N9 is stop procustion? |
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| 15:57.49 | herdingcat | anyone? |
| 16:00.03 | petteri | you mean production? |
| 16:01.25 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.46 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.22 | herdingcat | petteri: yea, in china, it's still alive. |
| 16:05.40 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.47 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.22 | herdingcat | petteri: how about software support? |
| 16:06.45 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.07 | herdingcat | petteri: how about further software support? |
| 16:09.28 | herdingcat | petteri: I'm thinking Elop is a big idiot. |
| 16:09.33 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.04 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.04 | herdingcat | petteri: sure I could. But it seems that the end users have to reply on community/ |
| 16:10.33 | herdingcat | herdingcat: okay, give you a hint, how about vpnc support? |
| 16:10.45 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.57 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.01 | jonni | herdingcat: vpnc works just fine, I'm using it on my N9 ;-) |
| 16:19.08 | herdingcat | jonni: for command line? |
| 16:20.21 | herdingcat | petteri: and, it seems Meego cannot recognize certiicates for email. |
| 16:20.28 | herdingcat | petteri: really a bad idea.. |
| 16:20.29 | jonni | herdingcat: yes usually I use it from commandline, I've also seen gui versions made to work agains specific big companies (but havent seen gui versions released to public). |
| 16:21.34 | herdingcat | jonni: so hmm, too difficult to use vpnc there. |
| 16:21.57 | jonni | you can always make an icon to grid which will launch the commandline command. |
| 16:22.23 | herdingcat | jonni: and for email client issue, does not support certs for email clients. |
| 16:22.41 | jonni | and dont know about meego, but in harmattan you can import any custom certificate to device. |
| 16:24.04 | jonni | so atleast I havent had any problems connecting my email accounts, event against self signed imap backends. |
| 16:24.17 | herdingcat | jonni: huh? I heard about that N9 is only support MS MfE |
| 16:24.33 | herdingcat | jonni: what email client do you use? |
| 16:24.48 | jonni | herdingcat: N9 supports MfE, imap and pop in the native client. |
| 16:25.22 | herdingcat | jonni: not only MfE? |
| 16:25.54 | jonni | herdingcat: not only mfe, so quess you have been misinformed. |
| 16:26.06 | herdingcat | jonni: damn |
| 16:26.24 | herdingcat | jonni: so N9 can also access SSL based email server? |
| 16:27.01 | jonni | herdingcat: yes, it supports connecting also connections to SSL and TLS imaps/pops |
| 16:27.27 | herdingcat | jonni: SSL + certificate email server? |
| 16:28.04 | jonni | herdingcat: depends what you mean by +certificate, ssl already has certificate in it |
| 16:29.11 | jonni | I havent heard any problems with any common email backends. But then again usually only the 100 something most commonly used servers are tested. |
| 16:30.12 | herdingcat | jonni: thanks mate, my workmate told me that N9 only supports MfE, I thought N9 was sucks! |
| 16:30.51 | jonni | heh, he should have replaced the 'only' to mean 'also' |
| 16:33.18 | herdingcat | jonni: great, i gonna purchase one tomorrow. |
| 16:34.06 | jonni | herdingcat: http://www.nokia.com/au-en/support/troubleshooting/?action=singleFAQ&caseid=FA118851_en_US |
| 16:34.11 | herdingcat | jonni: however, I'm guessing I have to reply on software dev on the community. |
| 16:34.25 | herdingcat | jonni: where are you from, mate? |
| 16:34.33 | jonni | herdingcat: finland |
| 16:35.14 | herdingcat | jonni: okay, but no more word N9 in that FAQ. |
| 16:35.32 | herdingcat | jonni: what do you think Elop? An idiot too? |
| 16:35.44 | jonni | herdingcat: http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/nokia-for-business/nokia-n9/nokia-n9-for-business/ that one mentions pop3, imap and mfe |
| 16:36.35 | herdingcat | jonni: nokia will still support N9 in the future? |
| 16:38.36 | jonni | herdingcat: well yes N9 was the first and last harmattan device, if I remember right legislation depending on region requires company to support the device 3 years after the last software release. So if last PR release is in 2012, then there is 'minimal' support until 2015. So most likely in 2016 support is near to zero. |
| 16:39.13 | herdingcat | okay |
| 16:39.34 | herdingcat | jonni: 3 yrs is enough for me. |
| 16:39.36 | jonni | but then again in 2016 most people will buy a new device anyways |
| 16:39.59 | herdingcat | jonni: meego/harmattan should be on going... |
| 16:42.10 | jonni | meego.com most likely will be shutting down next summer, as then the support time since last intel software release comes up. but harmattan has more recent releases, so it will live a bit longer than meego. |
| 16:43.20 | jonni | and most likely community will support the device longer than companies will. |
| 16:43.33 | herdingcat | jonni: mate, one more problem, how about battery duration for N9?> |
| 16:44.05 | herdingcat | jonni: where is the community url? |
| 16:44.18 | itsnotabigtruck | it lasts maybe 2.5 days if you don't use it much |
| 16:44.27 | itsnotabigtruck | if you use it a lot it lasts about 1 day |
| 16:44.49 | itsnotabigtruck | having an im connection or any other sort of persistent data takes the battery life way down from where it would be |
| 16:44.49 | jonni | that depends on the usage, I usually charge the device every night, so I've never have had troubles with battery. But yes you cannot run the device many days without charging. |
| 16:45.11 | itsnotabigtruck | even launching the gps app and using it for 5 mins will obliterate your battery |
| 16:45.21 | itsnotabigtruck | let alone using it for an extended period of time |
| 16:45.27 | itsnotabigtruck | so bear that in mind |
| 16:47.12 | jonni | ofcourse if you keep it on powersaving mode all the time and dont make calls, you can manage a week without charging, but that means that you dont use the phone :) |
| 16:47.24 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 16:49.00 | jonni | herdingcat: http://talk.maemo.org is the best pointer for the community |
| 16:49.29 | herdingcat | jonni: what's the native email cleint in N9? |
| 16:49.45 | itsnotabigtruck | it's called 'fenix' but it's just displayed as Mail |
| 16:49.55 | itsnotabigtruck | herdingcat ^ |
| 16:50.43 | herdingcat | itsnotabigtruck: thx |
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| 19:44.14 | hahlo | itsnotabigtruck: does fenix work well? |
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| 20:16.38 | itsnotabigtruck | hahlo: i haven't bothered with it yet |
| 20:16.46 | itsnotabigtruck | problem is that i don't have imap based mail yet |
| 20:16.58 | itsnotabigtruck | so mail on multiple systems = a real problem |
| 20:22.55 | jonni | ah so you dont use gmail, which is imap based :) |
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