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| 04:29.07 | kozzi | wow, nice job 1ith modding Drive app |
| 04:29.39 | kozzi | it went from uncommenting stuffs to serious modding |
| 04:29.53 | kozzi | 1ith=with |
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| 05:44.58 | dymaxion | hey has anyone here tried the latest NITdroid on their N9? |
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| 08:54.47 | valdur55 | Is it possible to mount computer filesystem over sftp? |
| 09:02.49 | mankeli | no, but it can be done over regular ssh |
| 09:02.51 | mankeli | via sshfs |
| 09:03.46 | jonni | mount command is blocked by default, so no to mount, but you can use sftp freely, and if you hack your phone then mount works too |
| 09:08.46 | valdur55 | mount fails ... :D |
| 09:09.36 | Jonne_ | even if you incept? |
| 09:09.57 | Jonne_ | jonni just said that, nm |
| 09:10.07 | Jonne_ | incept it, and you can mount, right? |
| 09:10.30 | valdur55 | fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted |
| 09:12.23 | Jonne_ | inception website appears to be down right now, though |
| 09:13.09 | valdur55 | i have incept installed |
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| 09:20.26 | Jonne_ | ar eyou running mount as root? |
| 09:20.30 | Jonne_ | *are |
| 09:21.07 | valdur55 | i got it :D ariande sshfs. ..... |
| 09:27.56 | Jonne_ | what was the issue? |
| 09:28.39 | valdur55 | with opensh , it gets Operation not permitted. |
| 09:29.12 | valdur55 | when i opened sh with ariande: ariande sh and then used sshf . Then it worked. |
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| 14:27.03 | juhaj | Hm... the ~/NyDocs is vfat, which is very sad. Can I simply reformat it to a proper filesystem without ill effects? |
| 14:28.49 | sledges | juhaj, then how will it mount on windows? :) with my all best intentions I hope that'd work; though USB MSC mounting might have some adverse effects |
| 14:29.11 | juhaj | Oni^: What is KO? |
| 14:29.18 | sledges | and if internally Nokia decided to put "mount -t vfat MyDocs" everywhere in its code, you are basically screwed :) |
| 14:29.29 | juhaj | sledges: I do not have any windows installs anywhere => no problem |
| 14:29.44 | juhaj | sledges: That -t vfat or similar was my concern |
| 14:29.56 | sledges | juhaj, thought so, unless you'll approach an attractive friend's PC ;) |
| 14:30.48 | jonni | juhaj: we. |
| 14:30.49 | phako | well fstab mentiones vfat |
| 14:30.51 | juhaj | sledges: What if I do not have attractive friends? =) |
| 14:31.04 | juhaj | jonni: ?!? |
| 14:31.22 | jonni | juhaj: you can resize the vfat partition to be forxample 100MB, and create new partition as ext4 :) |
| 14:31.55 | juhaj | jonni: That would be nice. No side effects? (How could it cause any?) I'll do that! |
| 14:32.40 | juhaj | sledges: Besides, I would not defile my phone by attaching it to windows even if I had an attractive friend! |
| 14:32.46 | jonni | and ofcourse if you dont mind breaking mass-storagemode, then you could just turn the whole partition as ext4 |
| 14:32.54 | juhaj | (My attractive wife only has linux, so that's not an issue.) |
| 14:32.59 | sledges | juhaj, convinced me there :) |
| 14:33.07 | juhaj | sledges: =) |
| 14:33.58 | juhaj | jonni: I never used the mass storage mode on this or the previous phone (though the previous one had a microSD which I did transfer to my laptop once or twice when BT was too slow) |
| 14:34.02 | sledges | how to survive under "no mass storage mode" conditions? NFS? |
| 14:34.27 | jonni | sledges: sshfs works |
| 14:34.33 | sledges | nice |
| 14:34.45 | juhaj | jonni: But I think I will try to not remove functionality even if I think it is never going to be used: I am no God (nor Bill Gates) so I cannot tell if 640 kB should be enough for everyone or not |
| 14:35.01 | juhaj | sledges: sshfs, like jonni already said; also BT |
| 14:35.31 | sledges | good stuff! :) |
| 14:35.34 | juhaj | But BT is pointless with N9 since sshfs is always going to be SO much faster |
| 14:35.46 | sledges | too true |
| 14:35.58 | juhaj | Does fuse work on N9 btw? I would love to have glusterfs client on it =) |
| 14:37.16 | jonni | juhaj: yes fuse works on N9 |
| 14:37.21 | juhaj | Cool |
| 14:37.33 | juhaj | I think I will have a hacking weekend... |
| 14:37.35 | juhaj | =) |
| 14:38.31 | sledges | greetings to wife! :) |
| 14:40.15 | juhaj | sledges: Wife is 1500km away, but I'll relay your greetings on IRC or next week when I get home =) |
| 14:40.16 | itsnotabigtruck | juhaj: fuse is a little tricky, due to aegis |
| 14:40.34 | itsnotabigtruck | i tried to get fusermount (allows mounting fuse stuff with no permissions) going, but gave up at some point |
| 14:40.35 | juhaj | itsnotabigtruck: What possible issue would aegis have with mounting extra fses? |
| 14:40.45 | itsnotabigtruck | mounting extra filesystems requires permissions |
| 14:40.55 | juhaj | Ah. So it is not going to be possible =( |
| 14:41.01 | itsnotabigtruck | fuse has a mechanism allowing mounting stuff without permissions |
| 14:41.06 | itsnotabigtruck | but it relies on a setuid root binary called fusermount |
| 14:41.12 | juhaj | Well, it requires permissions, yes, but why does the user not have them? What harm could it do? |
| 14:41.16 | itsnotabigtruck | setuid root doesn't work normally with aegis |
| 14:41.28 | itsnotabigtruck | and with them you could do lots of things, actually :p |
| 14:41.48 | itsnotabigtruck | for example implement something similar to the original exploit i did for inception, with the chroot |
| 14:41.56 | itsnotabigtruck | by bind mounting a fake directory somewhere |
| 14:41.57 | juhaj | aegis could still protect mounting over /, /bin etc but allow mounting on /mnt |
| 14:42.05 | itsnotabigtruck | probably easier said than done |
| 14:42.15 | juhaj | possibly |
| 14:42.16 | sledges | thanks juhaj, and walks away to wait until his missus distances away, and start hacking :) |
| 14:42.16 | itsnotabigtruck | and not something nokia really would have cared about |
| 14:42.23 | itsnotabigtruck | since they didn't expect end users to do that kind of thing |
| 14:42.41 | juhaj | But "it's hard" is not an acceptable reason (for me) to prevent users from using their property |
| 14:42.43 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, i think you can still get fuse filesystems going, just run the commands with ariadne |
| 14:42.54 | itsnotabigtruck | fuse is pre-installed, it's what aegisfs uses |
| 14:43.04 | itsnotabigtruck | not the fuse utilities though (those are what needed to be aegisified) |
| 14:43.11 | mankeli | yes, sshfs from rzr's repo works fine with ariadne |
| 14:43.31 | juhaj | mankeli: That's sshfs mounting stuff ONTO N9, not FROM N9, I presume |
| 14:43.46 | itsnotabigtruck | juhaj: i got sshfs working ON the n9 |
| 14:43.46 | juhaj | (Because the latter works fine already) |
| 14:43.47 | jonni | juhaj: from |
| 14:43.59 | itsnotabigtruck | but that was while i was testing fusermount with aegis |
| 14:44.03 | itsnotabigtruck | so maybe it doesn't work without |
| 14:44.04 | juhaj | itsnotabigtruck: That's superb. Need I incept something? |
| 14:44.17 | itsnotabigtruck | you'll probably need to incept sshfs |
| 14:44.20 | itsnotabigtruck | meanwhile i gotta run |
| 14:44.23 | itsnotabigtruck | later |
| 14:44.25 | jonni | for me sshfs works both ways |
| 14:44.48 | juhaj | jonni: from N9 it is just a matter of turning developer mode on and it will work out-of-the-box |
| 14:45.15 | juhaj | jonni: The other way it needs fuse which may or may not work ootb. From the above it sounds very much like it would not |
| 14:45.38 | jonni | juhaj: vice versa actually. |
| 14:47.15 | jonni | juhaj: or I mixed up onto and from from contect. I mean mounting your remote machine into N9 filesystem, you need to use hacked capas. |
| 14:48.35 | jonni | I just installed libfuse2 and sshfs as com.nokia.maemo origin, and use call capa shell for mounting, works nicely. |
| 14:50.21 | jonni | out of the box you dont have capas to mount, so a bit of tweaking is needed. |
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| 14:51.42 | juhaj | jonni: By "from N9" I mean mount stuff from N9 to some other host: sshfs n9:foo /mnt. I think that is the usual terminology for remote filesystems |
| 14:52.09 | juhaj | jonni: How do you do that "as com.nokia.maemo" part? |
| 14:53.21 | jonni | juhaj: I've enabled AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN to work in my phone. Most of the people use inception though (I haven't installed that one). |
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| 18:49.07 | kozzi | lol check out /usr/share/contacts/vcards/ |
| 18:49.27 | kozzi | who are those people ? |
| 19:01.37 | kozzi | harmattan's secret clan revealex |
| 19:01.57 | kozzi | s/revealex/revealed/ |
| 19:56.21 | jonne|reconnecte | e-mail address domains sort of look like lorem ipsum |
| 19:56.49 | jonne|reconnecte | guess they used that to test vcard import, but i have no idea why they'd put that on every shipped device |
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