12:24.18 | *** join/#n950club infobot (~infobot@rikers.org) |
12:24.42 | jussi | ooh DocScrutinizer05 is the man today :) |
12:24.45 | jussi | !test |
12:24.52 | *** mode/#n950club [+v infobot] by ChanServ |
12:25.06 | jussi | DocScrutinizer05: command character is ! ? |
12:25.11 | jussi | !test |
12:25.13 | smokex | he had the foresight to register this chan 2 years ago |
12:25.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~chanadd #n950club |
12:25.18 | infobot | Joining #n950club... |
12:25.29 | smokex | ~ |
12:25.41 | smokex | ~op |
12:25.41 | infobot | [op] a wallet |
12:25.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help |
12:25.58 | smokex | oh its a supy |
12:26.03 | smokex | ~wtf |
12:26.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf wtf |
12:26.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~logs |
12:26.53 | infobot | All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23n950club/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
12:27.36 | MFaro-Tusino | Thanks DocScrutinizer05 for helping us out :) |
12:27.40 | *** topic/#n950club by DocScrutinizer05 -> #N950club | chanlog at http://infobot.rikers.org/%23n950club/ |
12:27.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | MFaro-Tusino: yw |
12:28.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chanset #n950club |
12:28.32 | infobot | chan: #n950club (see _default also) |
12:28.32 | infobot | <PROTECTED> |
12:29.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chanset #maemo |
12:29.14 | infobot | chan: #maemo (see _default also) |
12:29.14 | infobot | <PROTECTED> |
12:29.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chanset #n950club factoidSearch $chan #maemo _default |
12:29.50 | infobot | Setting factoidSearch for #n950club to '$chan #maemo _default'. |
12:30.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~multiboot |
12:30.01 | infobot | methinks multiboot is http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/, or **DEPRECATED*, see ~maemo-multiboot |
12:31.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | would you please try opping yourselves? |
12:31.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | hint: /msg chanserv op |
12:31.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | hint: /msg chanserv help op |
12:32.05 | smokex | ~op |
12:32.06 | infobot | i guess op is a wallet |
12:32.14 | smokex | !op |
12:32.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot can't op you |
12:32.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | chanserv does that |
12:32.34 | smokex | !up |
12:33.08 | *** mode/#n950club [+o smokex] by ChanServ |
12:33.55 | MFaro-Tusino | !up |
12:33.57 | MFaro-Tusino | :p |
12:34.28 | *** mode/#n950club [+o MFaro-Tusino] by ChanServ |
12:34.30 | smokex | /cs op #n950club |
12:34.37 | smokex | :D |
12:34.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | chanserv doesn't listen to attention-chars. infobot listens to ~ only |
12:34.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | and to highlights |
12:34.58 | MFaro-Tusino | wooo - I feel priviliged now haha |
12:34.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: botsnack |
12:34.58 | infobot | :), DocScrutinizer05 |
12:36.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | smokex: I got me convenient user cmd definition in my client for that |
12:36.04 | smokex | so our chanserv doesn't have the extensions |
12:37.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are bots that are set up to have +o in a certain channel and thus can op other users |
12:37.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't like to grant +o to infobot |
12:37.24 | smokex | understood |
12:37.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly since it's freenode's chanserv that's supposed to handle all that |
12:38.25 | smokex | I know quite a lot about irc but wanted to try it and see if our chanserv accepted the commands properly |
12:38.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | /cs help |
12:39.31 | smokex | I have service bots set up on channels on other networks to +q me and what not |
12:39.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
12:40.42 | smokex | when I send the command |
12:40.54 | smokex | I usually stay down though |
12:41.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml |
12:41.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Don't keep channel operator privileges. << |
12:41.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Use channel operator privileges sparingly.<< |
12:42.12 | *** mode/#n950club [-o DocScrutinizer05] by ChanServ |
12:42.38 | smokex | /cs deop #n950club |
12:42.45 | *** mode/#n950club [-o smokex] by ChanServ |
12:44.00 | *** mode/#n950club [-o MFaro-Tusino] by ChanServ |
12:44.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
12:44.34 | *** mode/#n950club [+o ZogG_laptop] by ChanServ |
12:44.42 | *** mode/#n950club [-o ZogG_laptop] by ChanServ |
12:47.59 | *** part/#n950club MFaro-Tusino (~michaelfa@CPE-58-173-128-137.cjcz1.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
12:48.16 | *** join/#n950club MFaro-Tusino (~michaelfa@CPE-58-173-128-137.cjcz1.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
12:49.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
12:50.11 | smokex | I wonder how many of those 4000 N950s actually made it out to people |
12:50.20 | smokex | and how many stayed at Nokia |
12:51.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly nobody knows |
12:51.49 | smokex | true |
12:51.55 | MFaro-Tusino | well I got 2, and you got one, and a friend of mine has 3, another with 2, thus 3992 left unaccounted for :p |
12:52.25 | smokex | 17 in this channel with who knows how many :P |
12:52.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know ChanServ and infobot don't have a single one |
12:52.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
12:52.55 | MFaro-Tusino | hhaha |
12:53.02 | smokex | shhhh don't make them feel bad |
12:53.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~useless |
12:53.13 | infobot | ACTION starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
12:53.26 | smokex | hahaha :D |
12:53.45 | smokex | I can't stand the bots that randomly answer questions with gibberish |
12:54.41 | smokex | there is a help channel for a p2p client I work on and people ask questions for issues like incorrectly configured firewalls, the bot makes a smart ass answer then the user immediately leaves |
12:54.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | she doesn't say anything unless attention char or highlighted |
12:55.01 | smokex | cool |
12:55.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | except for an occasional "I'm here, courtesy DocScrutinizer05" on joining |
12:56.52 | smokex | hah :D |
13:01.18 | jussi | MFaro-Tusino: smokex, I can just flash sailfish straght over my existing nemo? |
13:01.47 | MFaro-Tusino | recommend you rm -rf everything buy boot-orig and lost+found but yes |
13:01.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | please edit topic to your liking. But keep chanlog note and maybe add a URL to a website that's your "home" |
13:02.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | best practice for /topic: separate items with " | " |
13:03.01 | smokex | jussi you don't actually flash sailfish atm.. we haven't created a bin |
13:03.20 | smokex | you just extract a tar on to a partition |
13:03.36 | MFaro-Tusino | DocScrutinizer05: When does it log? |
13:03.42 | jussi | smokex: ahhh! |
13:03.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas only once a day |
13:03.57 | MFaro-Tusino | Cool :) |
13:04.12 | MFaro-Tusino | Only because I noticed it wasn't created yet |
13:04.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, infobot is lazy on updating the html logs |
13:05.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you want to create new factoids, please consider prepending them with channame, similar to |
13:05.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal multiboot |
13:05.49 | infobot | "#maemo multiboot" is "http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/, or **DEPRECATED*, see ~maemo-multiboot" |
13:06.06 | jussi | tries to remember where he knows DocScrutinizer05 from |
13:06.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea |
13:07.56 | jussi | were you staff? ubuntu something? hrm... |
13:10.12 | smokex | looks like he's active on mer |
13:12.29 | smokex | wtv 808 pureview extended life battery x 6 + external charger x 5 |
13:12.34 | smokex | wtb |
13:14.38 | smokex | DocScrutinizer05: I think battery charging issues would be a kernel level issue right? |
13:15.14 | smokex | so mer would be where the problem lies for the N950 battery not charging |
13:22.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, in N950? |
13:22.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think it's using a pretty custom specially patched BME |
13:22.58 | MFaro-Tusino | BME is Nokia |
13:23.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
13:23.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
13:24.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | however see my work done for USB hostmode in N9(50), I checked the battery management chip, identified it and controlled it in a way that's pretty similar to fremantle bme alternative |
13:26.05 | MFaro-Tusino | hostmode was never achieved right? |
13:27.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope, full hostmode never been achieved |
13:27.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86207&highlight=N950+hostmode |
13:27.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1355011&postcount=29 |
13:32.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can charge using something similar to charge21.sh (google for it) |
13:32.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | not exactly kernel issue |
13:34.33 | MFaro-Tusino | okay |
13:36.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | jussi: you either know me from openmoko or from maemo |
13:36.39 | jussi | probably maemo. |
13:37.24 | jussi | MFaro-Tusino: so... I just delete everything in the partition and extract the vgrade thing there, right? |
13:38.30 | MFaro-Tusino | don't delete boot-orig or lost+found |
13:38.39 | MFaro-Tusino | (not necessary but just nicer) |
13:40.23 | jussi | hrm, Where Im looking at doesnt seem to have either of those... |
13:40.59 | jussi | or will those be on harmattan side? |
13:41.23 | jussi | Im looking at the nemo partition, as automounted by ubuntu |
13:54.28 | MFaro-Tusino | nvm then |
13:54.43 | smokex | DocScrutinizer05: I'm guessing you don't have an N9/50 any more right? |
13:55.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | glares at his N9 and N950 |
13:55.12 | smokex | ohh :D |
13:55.33 | smokex | will you help us hack at this thing some more? |
13:55.51 | smokex | I'll have a working image out soontm |
13:56.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, no. I get eczema when touching that thing |
13:56.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | trustzone infested |
13:57.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | MeeGo 1.2 version 1.2011.22-6_PR_RM680 |
13:58.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | and that won't change |
13:59.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | later versions successively locked down the thing and you can't downgrade to earlier versions |
13:59.28 | MFaro-Tusino | I just flashed from that yesterday to boot sailfish |
13:59.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | this version still had a loophole to truly root the shit |
14:00.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly I'm not willing to bother with the HARM devices anymore. They are flawed on a very basic hw level (namely xloader) |
14:02.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | xloader will lock down "CAL" (or whatever they call it on that platform) when you boot anything kernel that's not signed by a valid Nokia signature |
14:12.53 | MFaro-Tusino | well i figured nobody was fiddling with it anymore so I may as well use it :p |
14:13.42 | smokex | https://gitorious.org/x-loader/pages/Home |
14:19.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | smokex: that's only half the truth |
14:20.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | check TrustZone and ROMBL and HS-platform (HighSecurity) |
14:20.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ROMBL will only load xloader that has correct signature |
14:21.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | so on N950 you can only use the xloader signed by nokia made for N950 |
14:21.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | and THAT xloader is nasty |
14:22.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can't replace or patch or fix it |
14:22.47 | smokex | what was CAL |
14:23.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | and obviously you can't change the ROM-BootLoader or the public key it uses to verify x-loader |
14:23.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | CAL is a part(ition) of NAND (at least on N900) where all sorts of device parameters are stored |
14:23.48 | MFaro-Tusino | only thing I know about CAL was that it caused the warranty warning when you flashed kernels |
14:24.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, also a flag "warranty void2 can get set there by x-loader |
14:24.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | or by NOLO |
14:24.34 | jussi | and sailfish booted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D |
14:24.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even by kernel |
14:25.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | and you can't clear it since as soon as you load a kernel that would allow you to write to CAL what you want, the CAL partition is already locked |
14:26.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why you can't change device lock code in HARM with openmode kernel |
14:26.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | device lockcode is stored in CAL |
14:27.19 | smokex | well... looks like my burning platform ambience theme is almost ready to go |
14:27.40 | MFaro-Tusino | jussi: :D |
14:29.19 | MFaro-Tusino | i'm out of here - bed is calling my name. Thanks for the help and great chat DocScrutinizer05: |
14:29.31 | MFaro-Tusino | smokex: I'll talk to you in the morning :) |
14:29.37 | smokex | kk :) |
14:29.49 | jussi | bah, n950 needs a big simcard... :/ |
14:29.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
14:30.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | jussi: do NOT use micro->mini SIM adapter!! |
14:30.34 | jussi | DocScrutinizer05: why not? |
14:30.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | it will lock up in the slot-in mech and destroy it |
14:30.48 | jussi | even if I tape it up? |
14:30.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | your own peril |
14:31.03 | jussi | hrm |
14:31.06 | jussi | frustrating |
14:31.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | I heard of at least 5 destroyed N950 |
14:31.39 | jussi | ok :D |
14:32.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | the contact springs lock up in the gap between card and adapter |
14:32.13 | smokex | yeah I heard that too |
14:32.40 | jussi | thanks for the early addvice |
14:32.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can recover from this by insering a *thin* stiff plastic between the upper surface of card/adapter and the tray, to unlock the contacts |
14:33.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | forcing card out of slot is destroying the tray, fatally |
14:35.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw there's abig warning about that in the N950 user manual that shipped printed paper with the device |
14:35.32 | jussi | hrm |
14:35.47 | jussi | keeps bootme off the network... |
14:37.01 | jussi | I cant seem to use wlan - does that mean it doesnt work with wpa? |
14:43.46 | smokex | I use wpa |
14:44.48 | jussi | strange, just didnt work with the elisa box. plugged ina spare router, works now. |
14:47.50 | jussi | btw, that vgrade version, will it work with n9 also? |
14:50.02 | smokex | yes |
14:50.09 | jussi | excellent! |
14:50.38 | *** mode/#n950club [+o jussi] by ChanServ |
14:50.58 | smokex | DocScrutinizer05: how locked down is it? harmattan is still able ot communicate with hardware in open mode |
14:51.08 | *** topic/#n950club by jussi -> #N950club | chanlog at http://infobot.rikers.org/%23n950club/ | Images: http://n9.araya.su/images/mic_images/sailfish-1.0.1.10/ | |
14:51.17 | *** mode/#n950club [-o jussi] by ChanServ |
14:57.08 | smokex | so we should be able to send and recieve messages with the battery for instance |
15:02.58 | jussi | is jolla store and harbour passwords the same ? |
15:06.34 | smokex | not sure |
15:06.41 | smokex | probably |
15:12.47 | jussi | argh, guess the store isnt available... :/ |
15:12.50 | jussi | oh well |
15:13.14 | jussi | 2 year old just stole the phone.... :/ |
15:14.23 | jussi | now then, got it back |
15:14.58 | smokex | hahj |
15:15.32 | jussi | ooh, now store works :) |
15:16.39 | jussi | or rather, "kinda works" |
15:18.30 | jussi | hrm, guess the system update isnt a good idea... |
15:22.25 | smokex | it pulls in jolla device specific binaries |
15:22.49 | smokex | wait for my tar :) |
15:22.54 | jussi | yeah, figured there would be something like that :D |
15:22.58 | jussi | I will :D |
15:23.16 | jussi | frustrating that I cant add apps |
15:23.22 | jussi | the downloads fail |
15:24.28 | jussi | and I thought close was from the top and right was minimize, hrm... |
15:25.26 | jussi | also, Im getting some white noisefrom the speaker on occaision. not sure how normal that is |
15:32.31 | smokex | yeah the off screen gestures are rotated |
15:32.49 | smokex | I think its a config file somewhere that messed up |
15:33.17 | smokex | the white noise happens on the jolla device |
15:33.35 | smokex | and yes its annoying |
15:34.11 | jussi | ok, good to know these are know issues |
15:35.36 | jussi | I guess there is no hope of store working... |
15:35.51 | smokex | it will eventually |
15:35.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | jolla store :-o |
15:36.22 | jussi | the android apps would make my day :D |
15:36.40 | jussi | goes to see if he can find gestures config file... |
15:37.46 | smokex | I already tried changing /var/lib/environment/compositor/60-n9-n950-ui.conf |
15:37.55 | smokex | so thats not it |
15:38.49 | jussi | ok, Ill keep that in mind, thanks |
15:50.35 | smokex | /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-input.rules |
15:50.44 | smokex | that looks promising |
15:51.52 | jussi | hrm, not really :/ |
16:05.34 | jussi | ok, so not sure where it is, but in meego it was provided by mcompositor |
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18:52.40 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: and you are here :P |
18:53.01 | ZogG_laptop | jussi: store works? |
18:53.22 | ZogG_laptop | did you updated? used image or it was fixed on their side? |
18:54.23 | *** join/#n950club HtheB (57d3a04c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.211.160.76) |
18:57.50 | valdur55 | smokex: i have also github account. valdur55 |
19:11.05 | HtheB | so, any news smokex ? |
19:30.52 | ZogG_laptop | jussi: ? |
19:44.40 | HtheB | ZogG_laptop: ? |
19:45.14 | valdur55 | HtheB: ? |
19:45.55 | valdur55 | irw: cat /etc/udev/rules.d/92-n770.rules |
19:49.52 | HtheB | sup with that |
19:49.57 | vgrade | evening |
19:50.07 | vgrade | reads todays backlog |
19:50.34 | HtheB | i wanna know what the status is of the image |
19:50.37 | HtheB | for n950 |
19:50.40 | HtheB | sailfish |
19:54.44 | ZogG_laptop | !up |
19:54.45 | ZogG_laptop | :P |
19:54.48 | ZogG_laptop | ~up |
19:54.49 | infobot | rumour has it, up is the opposite of down |
19:54.52 | ZogG_laptop | ~op |
19:54.52 | infobot | op is probably a wallet |
19:54.57 | ZogG_laptop | :P |
19:57.03 | RzR | !op me |
20:02.38 | *** join/#n950club roope (roope@sitruunajuhla.fi) |
20:04.01 | vgrade | can anyone add https://github.com/martinbrook/jolla-n950-kickstart to topic, thanks |
20:05.26 | RzR | or we should put it all on http://wiki.maemo.org/OS#SAILFISH_OS_on_n9.2850.29 |
20:14.22 | vgrade | RzR: that link in topic |
20:14.47 | vgrade | RzR: ok here |
20:22.20 | npm | vgrade: thanks. looking forward to using at some point. but i'm confused about what happens from "flash to n950" and "sudo tar --numeric-owner -xjf vgrade-sailfish.tar.bz2 -C /mnt" steps |
20:26.31 | RzR | hi npm |
20:26.37 | RzR | cant flash it yet |
20:26.42 | RzR | just unpack it |
20:27.36 | RzR | npm, this worked for me http://www.who.is.free.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=n950club&#sailfish_os_post_release |
20:28.36 | HtheB | RzR |
20:28.49 | HtheB | somehow, your website loads very slow |
20:30.00 | npm | RzR.. sorry being "thick"... so you mount a minimal image device over USB and then use tar to unpack the rest of the OS? |
20:32.46 | npm | but thanks RzR, vgrade and everybody else involved for all the work and documentation |
20:36.52 | vgrade | npm: good page here with background |
20:37.27 | vgrade | replace occurences of nemo.tar.bz2 with sailfish.tar.bz2 |
20:38.11 | vgrade | also good links on first post at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90761 |
20:40.12 | RzR | HtheB, define slow , months ? years ? |
20:40.34 | HtheB | ages |
20:40.39 | RzR | ;) |
20:40.51 | HtheB | works now though |
20:41.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-12-11 21:05:26] <RzR> or we should put it all on http://wiki.maemo.org/OS#SAILFISH_OS_on_n9.2850.29 |
20:41.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ACK |
20:41.52 | RzR | hi bro |
20:42.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | links to random locations in the intarwebs which may vanish any time are always a PITA |
20:42.13 | RzR | like wiki.meego.com ? |
20:42.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
20:42.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | like forum.meego.com |
20:42.39 | RzR | yea |
20:42.57 | RzR | too bad we did not backuped it into maemo / tizen or elinux |
20:43.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | or like all the links in tmo to the various pastebins |
20:43.42 | HtheB | lol @ www.meego.com |
20:43.49 | HtheB | <PROTECTED> |
20:43.53 | HtheB | :D |
20:43.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo considered a community asset now and quite warranted to never vanish completely |
20:44.28 | RzR | btw are any of you going to tizen |
20:44.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | Falk and me taking care about proper backups of everything |
20:44.33 | ZogG_laptop | RzR: do you use this image from wiki? |
20:44.33 | RzR | to fosdem |
20:44.34 | RzR | sorry |
20:44.59 | RzR | ZogG_laptop, i used nemo one , did not test sf ones |
20:45.07 | RzR | ZogG_laptop, would made my own from .ks |
20:45.18 | ZogG_laptop | RzR: did you update? |
20:45.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | while we are talking about proper backups... are YOU the guys who are hogging skeiron last two days? ;-D |
20:45.22 | RzR | not yet |
20:45.28 | RzR | was busy on something else |
20:45.36 | ZogG_laptop | i have something between 1.0.0.5 and 10.0.1.10 :) |
20:45.40 | RzR | i wait you guys to fix the store :) |
20:45.56 | ZogG_laptop | RzR: jussi claied to have store |
20:45.57 | RzR | and i want to port my app to sfos 1st |
20:46.03 | ZogG_laptop | that's what i wait for too |
20:46.11 | RzR | ZogG_laptop, i installed a couple of app not more |
20:46.18 | RzR | DocScrutinizer05, no i am not |
20:46.23 | ZogG_laptop | i could install only one |
20:46.32 | RzR | the doc one IICR |
20:46.37 | ZogG_laptop | and i got yandex store |
20:46.49 | ZogG_laptop | but without android support :\ |
20:47.11 | RzR | i dont care of android |
20:47.18 | ZogG_laptop | me iether |
20:47.18 | HtheB | RzR: i do :) |
20:47.23 | ZogG_laptop | just was poking around |
20:47.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | completely unrelated awesome stuff: https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=45820 |
20:47.31 | HtheB | I want a couople apps |
20:47.33 | ZogG_laptop | HtheB: than buy n5 |
20:47.36 | HtheB | like my banking app |
20:47.47 | HtheB | n5? |
20:49.02 | HtheB | you mean nexus5 |
20:49.54 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: you are hw maniac |
20:49.57 | piggz | https://twitter.com/adampigg/status/410873975133052928 |
20:50.20 | HtheB | piggz: whats that |
20:50.43 | ZogG_laptop | are you familiar with CAM modules for TV and diablo CAM or T-REX CAM ? |
20:50.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ZogG_laptop: c'mon, a complete linux system incl WLAN and a uSD slot in a standard size SD card is *awesome* |
20:51.26 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: it is |
20:52.22 | ZogG_laptop | but CI+ and CAM modules are interesting too |
20:52.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah |
20:52.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | to crack |
20:53.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | and no, I don't know much about those |
20:53.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | I.E. I never used any encrypted sat TV |
20:54.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | currently I don't use DVB-S at all, didn't switch on my receiver since >1 year |
20:54.43 | ZogG_laptop | i bought tv with slot |
20:54.54 | ZogG_laptop | ans dvb-s inside |
20:55.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't even know if mine has any, prolly not since it has no sat tuner |
20:55.15 | ZogG_laptop | not sure if i should buy programmable am |
20:55.19 | ZogG_laptop | cam* |
20:55.24 | ZogG_laptop | as they costy |
20:55.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | -> #sat |
20:56.48 | ZogG_laptop | there is one person there :P |
20:58.57 | HtheB | not anymore |
20:58.58 | HtheB | :P |
20:59.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, strange. No matter which channel you enter, there's always at least one person ;-) |
20:59.48 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: i actually created own chan but there was problem that i was only one there :( |
21:00.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw I think you can edit topic as you like |
21:00.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I've set chanmode -i |
21:01.00 | ZogG_laptop | topic here? |
21:01.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
21:01.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-12-11 21:04:01] <vgrade> can anyone add https://github.com/martinbrook/jolla-n950-kickstart to topic, thanks |
21:02.00 | piggz | HtheB: newsFish :) |
21:02.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | however consider topic length limit, which you find in freenode's server messages you receive on logging in |
21:03.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-12-09 16:04:18] [Support] DocScrutinizer05 CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 CHARSET=ascii NICKLEN=16 CHANNELLEN=50 TOPICLEN=390 ETR... |
21:05.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | and some clients can't even handle that and truncate a 390char topic |
21:05.27 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: lol |
21:05.29 | ZogG_laptop | ascii |
21:05.38 | ZogG_laptop | you are so old |
21:05.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
21:05.45 | ZogG_laptop | like internets itself |
21:06.00 | ZogG_laptop | i bet you use modem |
21:06.02 | ZogG_laptop | meh |
21:06.07 | ZogG_laptop | i'm just joking |
21:06.20 | ZogG_laptop | i have terrible sense of humour |
21:06.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | poor joke, I miss the coherence |
21:06.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe you missed I just c&p a freenode server msg for your convenience |
21:07.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | check your "freenode.net" channel tab and you'll find exactly same thing |
21:08.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2 lines before: |
21:08.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-12-09 16:04:18] [Users] There are 205 users and 89098 invisible on 27 servers |
21:09.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-12-09 16:04:18] [Users] 53837 channels formed |
21:09.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-12-09 16:04:18] [MOTD] - Welcome to holmes.freenode.net in London, UK! Massive thanks to |
21:09.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-12-09 16:04:18] [MOTD] - UK2 (http://www.uk2.net) for sponsoring this server. |
21:11.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw I'm way older than this thing called internet nowadays |
21:13.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I indeed use a modem: a DSL modem (I did before you started using the internet, I guess) |
21:16.00 | ZogG_laptop | meh |
21:16.05 | ZogG_laptop | i used modem :) |
21:16.23 | ZogG_laptop | i used BBS before internet |
21:16.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, then it's BBS I know you from ;-P |
21:17.00 | ZogG_laptop | i tried fido but was kicked out as i connected without permission (no idea how i did it) |
21:17.30 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: i used local BBS to download music so i don't think so :) |
21:17.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | MUSIC!! |
21:18.08 | ZogG_laptop | it's when i updated to 486 or was it pentium mmx i got after? |
21:18.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
21:18.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I stopped using BBS around 286 times |
21:18.41 | ZogG_laptop | first was 286 :) |
21:18.57 | ZogG_laptop | we got internet really late |
21:19.10 | RzR | bybye dinosaurs |
21:19.17 | RzR | it's time to extinct |
21:19.28 | ZogG_laptop | i used it like for 30 mins it total by bying cards i could use to connect to internet |
21:19.47 | ZogG_laptop | it's not that i'm old |
21:20.04 | ZogG_laptop | i just didn't have moeny to buy PC so i got old one from someone |
21:20.15 | rZr | was on amiga at that times |
21:20.28 | rZr | then switched to linux in 1996 |
21:20.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | same here ;-) |
21:20.36 | rZr | respect |
21:20.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | amiga1000 |
21:20.48 | rZr | respect++ |
21:20.59 | ZogG_laptop | i started with linux at 2000+ |
21:21.04 | rZr | got a 500 and 500+ w/ gvp 6k30 + hdd |
21:21.06 | ZogG_laptop | had noone to teach |
21:21.18 | ZogG_laptop | i had NC (norton commander) on msdos |
21:21.26 | rZr | we're happy for you |
21:21.33 | ZogG_laptop | and had friends of friends of friends to come to fix when i mess up |
21:21.35 | rZr | we had diropus4 on amiga :) |
21:21.42 | ZogG_laptop | all info i got was from trying things out |
21:21.45 | rZr | didnt we DocScrutinizer05 |
21:21.52 | ZogG_laptop | old farts :P |
21:21.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | possibly |
21:22.20 | rZr | byebye |
21:22.23 | rZr | i am leaving now |
21:22.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just recall two names: WB1.2 and kickstart |
21:23.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | WB1.3 in EEPROM was fine, but I couldn't patch it anymore, like I did with kickstart |
21:24.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, another name I recall: Mayer&Vogt(?) A&L Modula-2 |
21:24.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | first software I bought |
21:24.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | except fish disks of course |
21:45.45 | Basstard` | I had completely forgotten that MEmacs was included in the Extras with Workbench 1.3. |
21:55.27 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: you see what you did here |
21:59.32 | vgrade | 2400 baud modem here |
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