IRC log for #n950club on 20131216

02:11.58*** join/#n950club MFaro-Tusino (~michaelfa@CPE-58-173-128-137.cjcz1.cht.bigpond.net.au)
02:41.18MFaro-Tusinosmokex: You around?
03:07.56smokexMFaro-Tusino: here now
03:08.01smokexbut
03:08.06smokexApplication:Quazaa 0.1 Git:f997ae3 (2013-12-16) OS:Windows 7 Ultimate with Service Pack 1 (Build 7601) 64-bit Qt Version:5.2.0
03:08.13smokexon Windows atm
03:08.31MFaro-TusinoThats okay - was wondering if the wallpapers are only those in /usr/share/ambience
03:09.19smokexnah there are 2 other folder in /usr/share
03:09.43smokexlook at the script in the oneshot folder that prepackages images
03:10.01smokex/usr/lib/oneshot.d
03:23.36MFaro-TusinoThanks
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09:14.31DocScrutinizer05they did it again: TV: On jang tse dam 4 generators will deliver 700MWh each.
09:14.33*** part/#n950club mentos1386 (~mentos138@APN-122-151-213-gprs.simobil.net)
09:14.52DocScrutinizer05SAD! I guess they will burn out in 1h then
09:15.14DocScrutinizer05doesn't sound like a good deal
09:15.52DocScrutinizer05700000 kWh * 5euro-cent
09:16.03DocScrutinizer05~700000 *0.05
09:16.03infobot35000
09:16.19DocScrutinizer05don't think this will suffice to pay for a new generator
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10:01.29MFaro-TusinoSome guy on twitter is arguing with me that I am wrong in saying Android is insecure due to its Open Source aspects
10:03.58DocScrutinizer05err, probably android isn't insecure *due to* it's OS aspects
10:04.44DocScrutinizer05rather despite of the feeble pathetic OS aspects
10:04.58DocScrutinizer05due to the closed blobs
10:05.17DocScrutinizer05like RIL
10:05.32DocScrutinizer05which is closed for most of the modems I checked
10:09.46MFaro-TusinoWell my rationale was that the open components of it allow anyone to find vulnerabilities and exploit it
10:10.08MFaro-Tusinothough ti allows people to find them and report them for fixing
10:11.39MFaro-TusinoEspecially Open Source OS - various methods to elevate privileges and take control of aspects you shouldn't
10:13.42DocScrutinizer05the approach of security by obscurity isn't popular in FOSS and has been proven to be a misconsception
10:14.58DocScrutinizer05actually FOSS has *less* severe vulnerabilities than woindows stuff they used as reference for the evaluation. And the vulnerabilities are less severe and are fixed faster
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13:07.48MFaro-TusinoSo umm- xt9 works
13:08.54MFaro-Tusinoping vgrade
13:09.11valdur55Found that the camera app control buttons rotation works.
13:09.58MFaro-Tusinovaldur55: Explain what you mean please
13:10.16valdur55And "add contact" dialog misses virtual keyboard ,
13:10.32valdur55in sailfishos...
13:10.42valdur55r2 ...
13:11.18MFaro-TusinoWeird - I get the kbd for add contact
13:11.42valdur55MFaro-Tusino: hard to explain :).   FOr example ... Shooting button moves.
13:11.55MFaro-TusinoYes, thst been there for a while has it not?
13:12.18valdur55MFaro-Tusino: dunno :)
13:13.14DocScrutinizer05maybe "works" is the wrong word
13:13.17DocScrutinizer05;-)
13:13.32MFaro-TusinoWell no, rotation happens
13:13.38MFaro-TusinoCamera doens't work
13:13.39MFaro-Tusino:p
13:13.55MFaro-Tusino(or did you mean xt9 Doc?)
13:14.17DocScrutinizer05I wonder if jolla will manage to sort their mess
13:14.24DocScrutinizer05with shipping
13:15.12MFaro-TusinoLOL
13:38.06MFaro-Tusinosettles into bed for the night - leaves IRC connected so he doesn't miss anything :D
13:41.50valdur55lol :)  i use blinkenshell.org 's free shell for screen & irssi session.
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16:50.18roope-do i need to install all the vgrades updates or is the latest only needed
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18:17.48ZogG_laptopwakes up MFaro-Tusino
18:17.51ZogG_laptopmwahahahhaa
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18:50.05vgraderoope-: just latest
18:50.30roope-yeah i have them now
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19:01.44vgradeMFaro-Tusino: yea the xt9 packages are back due to the need for real jollas to complete the update
19:04.18vgradeopens up package from FI
19:04.43vgradeshipped on Friday 13th, lucky for some
19:48.05ZogG_laptopvgrade: you know release updates?
19:48.31ZogG_laptopnow*
19:52.32vgradewhat updates
20:02.12valdur551.0.10.5 ?
20:04.06vgradevaldur55: when did that hit
20:04.27valdur55what was the lastest?
20:04.40vgradekickstart is on 1.0.1.10 repos
20:05.14vgradeinitial ks was on 1.0.0.5
20:05.54roope-do i need to put new kickstart if i used the 0.5 one
20:06.58ZogG_laptopvgrade: i have access via ssh and black screen
20:07.02ZogG_laptopafte update
20:07.23ZogG_laptopand i was lazy to do anything
20:07.25vgradeZogG_laptop: after doing update to r3
20:07.26ZogG_laptopi poked around
20:07.31ZogG_laptopyup
20:08.11ZogG_laptopi tryed to install configurainon-n9 pattern as you suggested but it was there already
20:08.15vgradeyea , it still has jolla qcom adaptation packages in ssu so update pulls down wrong gfx drivers
20:08.15ZogG_laptopi gave up
20:08.35ZogG_laptopyeah you told me
20:09.14vgradesomething to improve in kickstart post section
20:09.46vgradeto edit ssu conf to point to n950 adaptation
20:09.58ZogG_laptopssu.ini ?
20:10.02vgradethen upgrade may be possible
20:10.04vgradeyea
20:10.39ZogG_laptopi used one from TMO
20:10.43ZogG_laptopdidnt resolve anything
21:11.11*** join/#n950club piggz (~piggz@host-92-18-201-138.as13285.net)
21:11.22vgradeZogG_laptop: start with clean r3
21:17.31valdur55ok... i misremembered code number :D
21:33.07piggzseems like my n950 is updating itself to 10.11.12.jolla :)
21:33.50roope-so i ask again, do i need to kickstart 1.0.1.10 if i have 10.0.0.5 with r1-r3 updates
22:17.06vgraderoope-: r1, r2 and r3 are distinct images built from kickstarts
22:17.28vgradeif you install r3 you are already at 1.0.1.10
22:17.36roope-ok good
22:17.56vgradethats just r3 from scratch
22:18.09vgradeno other r1, r2 required
22:18.17roope-so i can just keep on rewriting the alt_os with the updates that will come
22:18.50vgradeseems there is a new update this evening 1.0.1.12 I'll see if I can update the kickstart to suit
22:18.54vgradethis update
22:19.17roope-but was it ok to put r3 on top of the 10.0.0.5 bz2
22:21.00vgraderoope-: I don't know I always clean out before a new image
22:21.33vgradealso some 1.0.0.5 images have accounts and passwords in them
22:21.47vgradenot the r1, r2 , r3 ones but others
23:25.01MFaro-Tusinoroope-: Its best to do clean installs, I had issues
23:25.11MFaro-Tusinosays goodmorning to all
23:25.16roope-yus
23:41.17vgradeMFaro-Tusino: morn
23:46.38MFaro-TusinoVgrade: \o How are you? Have we determined what this "hotfix" for the store actually is?
23:48.15vgradenot sure
23:48.45vgradeI do know that tying to log into on account from 2 devices does not work
23:48.56MFaro-TusinoYou received your Jolla?
23:49.00vgradeyup
23:49.05MFaro-TusinoNice
23:50.00vgradehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwSE_PX7UvE&feature=share&list=UUXEgJwVb8AssgtGPOplNcgg
23:51.31vgradeI wonder how the max image worked with many devices with the same login
23:51.43vgradeunless that was one of the changes pushed :)
23:52.30MFaro-TusinoWell I have my N9 on SF - I can test logging in on that
23:52.30vgradethat would explain some of the crazy 'war with jolla' talks today

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