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| 11:21.23 | sunweaver | hi all, I was just pointed to the neo900 project by a DD colleague. |
| 11:21.36 | sunweaver | I am a Debian Developer myself and I want to help! |
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| 13:31.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | sunweaver: neo900 itself is strictly hardware. We nevertheless support and encourage porting of several OS/"distros" to our hw platform. one of them is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, which is linked to in |
| 13:31.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 |
| 13:32.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | and is meeting in #maemo-ssu |
| 13:33.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~fptf |
| 13:33.23 | infobot | somebody said fptf was the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 |
| 13:34.22 | sunweaver | DocScrutinizer05: ok. thanks. |
| 13:34.41 | sunweaver | DocScrutinizer05: do you have boards available already that fit into the N900 case? |
| 13:34.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw, thanks for supporting the project and related sister projects |
| 13:35.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, we're at beginning of this enterprise |
| 13:36.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | we plan to show first mech designs (no electrically working designs yet) at 30. Nov. - 1. Dec 2013: www.ohsw.org - Open Hard- and Software Workshop in Garching (Munich), Germany. |
| 13:38.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | we're days late with starting our fundraiser, due to awkward taxation issues |
| 13:41.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui you can't avoid 19% VAT for donations. You however pay only 7% VAT for hardware shipped to EU, and nothing at all for hw shipped to outside EU, or sth like that. So it's pretty headache-inducing to get the VAT right for the donations that come from outside EU and count as rebate for the devices |
| 13:43.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't really grok all that stuff, I'm an EE not a clerk. But if I got that right, we might have to pay 2 times 19% VAT for devices in the end |
| 13:43.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | if we mess up stuff |
| 13:45.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | Since Nikolaus also is an engineer and no merchant or tax consultant, this turned out to get more cumbersome to sort out than we expected |
| 13:48.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway since Neo900 and N900 (and pandaboard and OpenPandora) are all pretty similar hw platforms, you could use any of those mentioned to develop and test an OS that's not using hw-specific closed blob drivers (like cmt_speech, NOLO) |
| 13:49.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's pretty much what pali, freemangordon, fatphil and jonwil are about to do on #maemo-ssu right now, based on fremantle and using N900 to make a 3.12(?) kernel boot and run stock fremantle |
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| 21:14.12 | JoHnY | OMFG the fundraiser has started! :-) |
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| 21:14.40 | hbib | Let's hope that it will be sucessfull! |
| 21:14.54 | sono | =) |
| 21:15.12 | sono | pass the word on. |
| 21:15.33 | sono | i get quite some interest from geeks. |
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| 21:32.17 | JoHnY | just a note, when sending a SEPA bank transfer, there is no option to change the charging instructions to OUR, it's fixed to "SHA" (but it just means that the recipient pays whatever the fee he pays for any other incoming local bank transfer - i.e. usually nothing) |
| 21:36.12 | JoHnY | ok order complete, money sent :-) |
| 21:51.07 | AndrewX192 | it's open! |
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| 21:55.02 | AndrewX192 | the word "specification" is misspelled on the homepage |
| 21:55.53 | kolp | Just wondering about the policies... If I donate, say, 3000€, will I receive 2x(discount+prototype)? |
| 21:56.14 | kolp | What if I donate 2x1500? |
| 21:56.20 | kolp | Maybe this should be made clear(er) |
| 22:02.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, FUNDRAISER STARTED |
| 22:03.15 | kolp | Or... What if I donate 700 now and 800 later, will this count as 1500? |
| 22:03.23 | kolp | :) |
| 22:03.36 | AndrewX192 | ^ this |
| 22:03.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | AndrewX192: please post the spelling of the typo |
| 22:04.04 | AndrewX192 | See the full specifiaction draft for more details |
| 22:04.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | kolp: when you want to donate 3k, I guess we will talk you thru the process live :-D |
| 22:05.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | to make sure it's booked the way you want it to |
| 22:05.37 | kolp | Hm, ok :) |
| 22:05.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | baasically yes. You can donate 2* 1500 and thus receive 2 * proto and 2 * series |
| 22:06.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | or you donate 3k and get 1 proto, one series, and a mentioning on our (yet to design) hall of fame page for the 1500 excess |
| 22:07.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | we usually don't concatenate donations, though we don't expect so much traffic that we can't handle cases individually according to your intentions |
| 22:09.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | so if you later on order two serial devices you absolutely will be able to get a 700+800 rebate on the total for 2 series devices. You however will NOT be entitled for a proto when you split your donation into two halves |
| 22:10.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | (unless you talk to us about it, and all relevant guys agree that we can still do this) |
| 22:11.33 | dos11 | AndrewX192: fixed, thanks! |
| 22:11.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | initially we had a sentence explaining all this, but we tought it's too complex and the number of cases too low |
| 22:11.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | hola´ dos1 |
| 22:12.33 | kolp | Maybe you could mention that it's flexible for the bigger donations |
| 22:12.54 | kolp | And that people could contact you for details |
| 22:16.14 | dos1 | hei DocScrutinizer05 ;) |
| 22:17.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | kolp: good point |
| 22:17.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | tbh we didn't even think of this ;-) |
| 22:18.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | more than 1500, OMG! |
| 22:18.15 | kolp | Haha |
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