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| 01:19.19 | Luke-Jr | if I donate 1500 EUR, can I use that all as rebate toward multiple devices? |
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| 02:58.41 | joecool | DocScrutinizer05: ^ |
| 03:10.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: no |
| 03:12.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: 1500+ donations entitle you to one prototype on top of the general using donation as rebate for *one* series device |
| 03:13.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's still a bargain, and we can't offer any better deal |
| 03:15.17 | joecool | DocScrutinizer05: i'll relay the msg in case he didn't get it |
| 03:15.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks |
| 03:15.34 | joecool | DocScrutinizer05: i think he wanted to know if instead of prototype, could he count it as 15 rebates |
| 03:15.36 | joecool | for instance |
| 03:16.30 | chainsawbike | he can just make multiple donations for that |
| 03:17.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's possible when you clearly note it on your donation, and preferably negotiate it with us in email before. We don't insist in 15 transfers of 100, we accept bulk orders but they have to get sorted out manually |
| 03:17.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | so no, it's not automatically possible per se |
| 03:18.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | a 1500 donation gets automatically ciunted as "one series device, one proto" - unless we manually correct the database |
| 03:19.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | counted* |
| 03:20.17 | joecool | DocScrutinizer05: ok i'll let him know, i said as much to him but wanted to double-check |
| 03:21.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you select money transfer, you get an invoice. you can pay 15 invoices of 100 each in one money transfer. No problem with that |
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| 03:22.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess the shop even supports to get 15 donations a 100 into your chart, and receive one invoice for that when you proceed to "check out" |
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| 03:23.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | not completely sure about it, for some strange reason I never used that shop to donate |
| 03:23.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I have no administrative access to GDC webshop or anything related to it |
| 03:24.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | generally best procedure: write what you want to do in a mail to contact at neo900.org |
| 03:24.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | GDC will contact you for the details |
| 03:26.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | once you received an invoice, you have an account at GDC to which you can log in and send comments and check your order status, and you get a mail addr and order token/number which you can use to send mails directly to GDC about any problems with your order |
| 03:27.53 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: any chance this could fit a N810 case? |
| 03:28.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | please note that GDC is managing all this and I have no saying in it |
| 03:28.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: hardly |
| 03:28.53 | Luke-Jr | "hardly" being slightly better than "none at all"? :P |
| 03:29.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, you can melt down the N810 case and build a matching one by pouring the molten stuff into new mold |
| 03:30.15 | Luke-Jr | >_< |
| 03:30.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | or you could unsolder all components from Neo900 and place them on a new PCB you made |
| 03:30.24 | Luke-Jr | a shame, N810 had such a better keyboard |
| 03:31.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | apart from that, I don't see a way to fit a NeoN board into a N810 case |
| 03:31.40 | joecool | hammer |
| 03:31.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | but maybe you're smarter and can come up with an idea how it could work nevertheless |
| 03:32.20 | joecool | Luke-Jr: fund a Neo810 project |
| 03:36.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 03:37.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | why did i need to answer a mail with exactly same text again? |
| 03:37.54 | joecool | DocScrutinizer05: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_mobile_phones < prob should update this |
| 03:38.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ONE 1200EUR proto + ONE 70EUR series = one 1500 donation |
| 03:38.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | 700* |
| 03:39.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | we're not giving away the protos for free |
| 03:44.12 | joecool | DocScrutinizer05: what exactly is your organization for neo900? GoldenDelicious? |
| 03:45.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's pretty much on the move internally right now |
| 03:46.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | since 5 days I tend to only mentor the project and let GDC do everything |
| 03:46.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | we planned to create a new limited to handle the Neo900 project but that didn't work out |
| 03:47.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | so basically yes, Golden Delicious Computers is the organization running and responsible for Neo900 |
| 03:49.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | yet to get evaluated how binding anything *I* say or promise will be in the end |
| 03:50.48 | joecool | also is the gta04 getting ditched, is that a seperate project, or are the guts from neo900 going in there? |
| 03:51.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | last info I heard is: it might merge into Neo900. But again, not my business, please ask GDC/Nikolaus |
| 03:52.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm 100% uninvolved to GTA04 |
| 03:54.04 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: oh, I thought you meant contact@neo900.org was someone else |
| 03:54.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | contact is what it says: it goes to GDC and dos1 and me |
| 03:55.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | so if you want to make sure GDC knows about your order being meant to be 5 donations a 220 despite it's one transfer, you better beforehand announce such stuff to that email addr |
| 03:57.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | you as well could announce it directly to @gdc.xxx but then neither dos1 nor me get to know about it and we can't do anything to make sure the database is correct, etc |
| 03:57.43 | Luke-Jr | I see |
| 04:02.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | you order at GDC, I have no saying in how GDC is handling that order |
| 04:02.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | in no aspect |
| 04:04.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | a former agreement that GDC is just collecting the donations for Neo900 group is void, due to book keeping restrictions that don't allow that |
| 04:05.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry for my forwarding incorrect info in that regard |
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