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| 02:06.59 | dos1 | a short update, but with a bunch of neat stuff inside: http://neo900.org/news/mini-october-update :) |
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| 06:20.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: we need an own forum |
| 06:21.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tmo |
| 06:21.11 | infobot | methinks tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. |
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| 11:12.55 | jonwil | Looks like my idea to use my latest tools and skills to re-reverse-engineer MCE and compare my clone to stock has paid off, I found one bug already |
| 11:18.44 | freemangordon | jonwil: where? |
| 11:19.16 | jonwil | still digging in, not sure yet, once I complete my comparision I will post what I found |
| 11:20.00 | freemangordon | jonwil: I fixed one (https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mce/commit/c50e38992802483aa8e1350ebf57b0afa6bacb81) you found something else? |
| 11:20.41 | jonwil | The one I got so far isn't that one |
| 11:21.04 | freemangordon | ok |
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| 11:59.15 | jonwil | although I do say that the tklock module is one area where I have noticed the most potential issues so far |
| 13:11.57 | Wikiwide | Good evening... |
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| 21:12.06 | Pali | ah... I thought that alsa (dmix) is perfect and good software mixing code |
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| 23:08.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: that's my take on that as well |
| 23:09.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | poettering however thought different and thus invented PolypAudio |
| 23:10.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | Polyp prolly an acronym for POettering Loves Your Pain |
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| 23:31.04 | wpwrak | DocScrutinizer05: hell has been reported to have suffered a 70% drop of performance since poettering promoted the devil to COO and went for his sabbatical on earth. |
| 23:32.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, I'm not sure I can parse this |
| 23:33.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | the first half is clear, though |
| 23:33.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf coo |
| 23:34.17 | wpwrak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_operating_officer |
| 23:36.45 | wpwrak | we could make a "poettering facts" site, like "schneier facts" :) http://www.schneierfacts.com/ |
| 23:37.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 23:37.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~systemd |
| 23:37.50 | infobot | systemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, Harald Hoyer, Daniel Mack, Tom Gundersen, David Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too. See http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced the linux kernel, or see http://boycottsystemd.org/, or see http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ |
| 23:38.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://boycottsystemd.org/ |
| 23:39.11 | wpwrak | naw, needs to be more ad hominem |
| 23:40.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | like |
| 23:40.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~freee |
| 23:40.04 | infobot | somebody said freee was http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZTdUmlGxVo0&t=3296 |
| 23:40.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 23:40.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | best ad hominem is by poettering himself |
| 23:41.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, and we got: |
| 23:41.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~poettering |
| 23:41.19 | infobot | 'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html, or http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01488.html, or see ~systemd cabal |
| 23:42.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah, we should finally establish the anti-poettering club, with website and all |
| 23:42.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/nnsfb/anti_leonard_poettering_petition_stop_writing/ |
| 23:44.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | anti-poettering.org still available ;-) |
| 23:47.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually I start to think poettering is only a soldier of redhat and the latter is the one to blame |
| 23:48.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | either the (product) management of RH got taken over by poettering, or is incompetent, or evil, or not existent at all |
| 23:51.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course the above is my own personal humble uneducated take on it |
| 23:51.43 | jonwil | Is this pottering guy the same guy that did PulseAudio? |
| 23:51.55 | Zero_Chaos | jonwil: yes |
| 23:52.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm sure it's simple to prove that I got no clue and RH system architects ala product managers are Gods |
| 23:52.43 | jonwil | Given the general crappiness of PulseAudio, it doesn't surprise me that other things he has done are also crap... |
| 23:53.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | like avahi, systemd, nuking of /usr... |
| 23:53.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | nuking of udev |
| 23:54.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | consolekit? |
| 23:54.42 | jonwil | Systemd seems to be totally counter to the whole Unix ethos of having lots of little things that all do one thing and one thing only and plugging them together in different ways |
| 23:55.42 | b1101 | jonwil, it is |
| 23:56.59 | jonwil | ok, so what is the claims made as to why systemd is somehow good (or more to the point, better than the way its been done for so long)? |
| 23:58.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZTdUmlGxVo0#t=1377 actually the whole talk is worth watching, and you get some laughs at poettering as well when doing so |
| 23:59.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZTdUmlGxVo0&t=3296 being only the final highlight |