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| 13:01.34 | wpwrak | thanks ;-) now let's see how many bugs DocScrutinizer05 fishes out of that data set ... |
| 13:01.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 13:02.21 | specing | nomes est omen |
| 13:02.24 | specing | nomen* |
| 13:02.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly none, your evaluation been thorough and well thought |
| 13:03.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | and actually dos1 did 95% of the verification/correction work for all that stuff |
| 13:04.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ...during the past - like checking for correct email addr, asking back to donor when unclear etc |
| 13:05.46 | x29a | whats the worst case if all of those getting an email withdrawn their money? |
| 13:06.05 | x29a | like how much of the funds could be affected? |
| 13:08.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | withdrawing funds is not really an option |
| 13:08.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | we send out vouchers that give credits for purchases |
| 13:09.51 | x29a | ah ok, i misunderstood then, i thought ppl with unclear amounts of money would get the choice to get it back |
| 13:10.03 | x29a | no withdrawel of funds: good :) |
| 13:10.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | the funds so far been "donations" originally and we transferred that into loans refundable at ordering time of final device |
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| 17:16.02 | ilon | DocScrutinizer05: This makes me so happy, from my point of view you seem to pull it off! :) |
| 17:17.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, progress is always slower than we hope for, but that's a very common thing in such projects. We actually see constant progress however, and that's a good thing |
| 17:17.35 | ilon | Thats a good thing indeed. |
| 17:18.20 | ilon | And I'm a rather patient guy when it comes to products I really want. |
| 17:18.34 | ilon | And yes, delays are the norm. |
| 17:18.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | looking forward to source NNN devices N900 for all those who want a complete device - this cures some severe headache we had with sourcing the N900 "mech parts" up til now |
| 17:19.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | also looking forward to 500 chips 1GB RAM/NAND PoP MCP arriving soonish |
| 17:19.52 | ilon | :D |
| 17:20.26 | ilon | I'll have to set up a Asterisk server if i want to go back to single sim phone tho :/ |
| 17:20.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm, single SIM? why? |
| 17:21.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're using two phone numebrs/SIM? |
| 17:21.43 | ilon | yes |
| 17:22.05 | ilon | Been on dual sim phones since the radio on my last n900 went south |
| 17:22.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe the dualSIM-coldswap feature of Neo900 could do along with a simple call forwarding from SIM2 to SIM1? |
| 17:22.34 | ilon | I kind of "need" DSDS |
| 17:22.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | for outbound calls you swap to SIM" when needed, for inbound calls the forwarding would make calls to SIM2 arrive at SIM1 |
| 17:23.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/SIM"/SIM2/ |
| 17:23.20 | ilon | I'm using data on one plan (which is for my company), and primary calling from my private number |
| 17:23.36 | ilon | also, need incomming SMS on both |
| 17:23.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah ok, that gets a tad tricky |
| 17:23.42 | ilon | yeah |
| 17:23.58 | ilon | I'm kinda forced to carry two phones, or on dual sim |
| 17:24.01 | ilon | one* |
| 17:24.27 | ilon | at least the current customer does not force a third phone on me like some of the previous ones |
| 17:32.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a pity Gemalto (or rather qualcom?) didn't consider any support for DSDS yet :-/ |
| 17:33.30 | ilon | People just want fancier speeds, not fancier functionality |
| 17:33.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway at least for SMS you *could* (in theory) implement "userland DSDS" by cold-swapping SIM every 5 minutes for 10s. It would introduce quite a number of issues though |
| 17:34.40 | ilon | yeah, feels like setting up an asterisk server with GSM extension is easier. |
| 17:34.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | issue 1: not available during the 10-x seconds of polling the SMS SIM |
| 17:35.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | issue2: the constant re-authenticating on 2 networks every 5 minutes eats quite some energy and this standby time is not optimal |
| 17:36.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | issue 3: the SMs take 0 - 5 minutes to arrive |
| 17:36.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | (well, SMS never been guaranteed to arrive realime anyway, despite everybody thinks they should) |
| 17:37.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((asterisk with GSM)) interesting concept |
| 17:40.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonder if text messaging is a commonly supported feature in SIP now. Technically it worked 6 or 8 years ago already, iirc via SIP-INFO |
| 17:41.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | sipgate.de back when could send SMS from SIP-INFO, but not receive |
| 17:43.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ilon: may I query you and nag with a few questions? |
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| 17:51.47 | ilon | DocScrutinizer05: Just shoot. My answers might be sporadic and somewhat unclear tho (I'm somewhat sick and trying to kick up a NAS at the moment) |
| 17:52.35 | ilon | DocScrutinizer05: Well, there are some nice GSM hardware nowdays that have the ability to do both voice and SMS |
| 17:52.52 | ilon | DocScrutinizer05: that people have got working with asterisk |
| 17:53.08 | ilon | DocScrutinizer05: But they should be considered as backdoored ofc. |
| 17:53.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 17:53.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | please see /query |
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| 21:50.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ilon: thanks! |
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