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| 06:36.19 | Pali | freemangordon: how hard is to RE rtcom-accounts-plugin-jabber package |
| 06:36.21 | Pali | ? |
| 06:36.29 | Pali | you already done rtcom-accounts-plugin-gtalk... |
| 06:36.48 | Pali | and my patches for -gtalk are already in -devel |
| 06:36.53 | Oksana | :-) |
| 06:37.03 | Oksana | Thank you! |
| 06:37.52 | Pali | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2141 |
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| 14:13.34 | freemangordon | Pali: where is the package |
| 14:16.24 | freemangordon | Pali: that one http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/nokia-binaries/4bc37c7c77ebe90177c050b805a8dc79/nokia-binaries/r/rtcom-accounts-ui/rtcom-accounts-plugin-jabber_4.140-1%2b0m5_armel.deb ? |
| 14:18.13 | freemangordon | Pali: 18.6 k ARM binaray, I guess not that hard |
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| 15:53.46 | Pali | freemangordon, yes last version of rtcom-accounts-plugin-jabber deb package |
| 15:54.05 | Pali | and probably more parts of code could be same as rtcom-accounts-plugin-gtalk |
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| 18:46.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | x29a: we fixed some major issues, could you run another test please? |
| 18:46.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly we fixed the "missing payment method -> no email" issue |
| 18:46.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | or we hope we did |
| 18:46.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | kudos to dos1 for it |
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| 18:51.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | we still have minor annoyances like http://neo900.org/stuff/werner/tmp/also-bought.png ("...also bought...") |
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| 18:53.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's also the misleading "tax incl." |
| 18:53.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | which should be "not taxed" |
| 18:54.03 | wpwrak | ... after hunting down and killing countless others, "like me on fb", "our best-selling products", "mail to a friend", "show customers on a global map", "subscribe to [yet another] newsletter", ... |
| 18:54.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | prestashop, 'great'¡ |
| 18:55.04 | wpwrak | yes, the tax thing may need some further consideration |
| 18:55.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | lemme try to kill it the usual way |
| 18:56.06 | wpwrak | (usual) "a man in a dark parka has been seen near the tax office at the time of the molotov cocktail attack" ? :) |
| 18:56.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | "a hacker with nasty tooling has been seen near the prestashop 'translations' database" |
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| 18:57.03 | wpwrak | now i'm scared :) |
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| 20:20.43 | Oksana | What's wrong with show customers on a global map? ;-) |
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| 20:37.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry? |
| 20:37.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah |
| 20:37.55 | jonsger | oh 990 EUR + x :( |
| 20:37.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | we don't want all that fancy stuff siply to reduce the workload to *fix* it |
| 20:38.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | I raher hope -x, but yes, that's what USD exchange gave us |
| 20:39.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | very sorry about it |
| 20:40.26 | jonsger | so my graphic card has to live longer ^^ |
| 20:40.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) that's a fine spirit |
| 20:41.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | EUR/USD killed off a 30% of our calculations |
| 20:41.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~700*1.3 |
| 20:41.20 | infobot | 910 |
| 20:41.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | add on top the 1GB chip and a few unforeseen expenses |
| 20:42.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | the >32GB eMMC etc |
| 20:43.42 | jonsger | yes, but your luck is that you haven't a real competitor ^^ |
| 20:43.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's still hope for better price, when we can sell significantly >1500 devices |
| 20:45.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc my numbers (or rather Werner's, kudos for his evaluation work), we might go down a 150 or even 200 when we for example would sell 3000 units |
| 20:57.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | afk, brinner pending |
| 20:57.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~brinner |
| 20:57.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | duh |
| 20:57.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~brinner is breakfast at dinner time |
| 20:57.38 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 21:03.05 | freemangordon | Pali: yes, about 50% of the code is same |
| 21:22.19 | wpwrak | Oksana: i guess if we'd randomize and quantize the data, it may actually be "safe" :) not sure if it would actually be permissible under german law, though. they have some funny laws there, regarding "personal data" |
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| 21:36.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | @everybody: please don't send money now until we open shop. Only use shop to do payments! Thanks! |
| 21:37.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | rationale: we already have processed all payments up to this point and will send out vouchers for them. However any new payment _not_ done via shop will fall off this list since the list is already prepared |
| 21:38.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | and there won't be a payment record in shop database either |
| 21:39.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | so please just postpone payments another 1 or two days |
| 21:39.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks :-) |
| 21:41.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | @Otto: don't worry, I'll sort out your payment manually :-D |
| 21:41.44 | specing | Did you accept payments in eur only? |
| 21:42.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess paypal accepts whatever you want |
| 21:42.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | for bank money transfer I dunno |
| 21:42.33 | specing | but they are stored in eur? |
| 21:42.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 21:42.43 | specing | well that is bad idea |
| 21:42.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | well |
| 21:43.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | now converting it to USD is probably an even worse idea |
| 21:43.52 | specing | maybe |
| 21:44.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yes, we probably might consider what's the best moment for conversion of currencies |
| 21:44.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | for USD->EUR now is a better moment than 12 months ago |
| 21:46.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | so *if* we had _not_ converted payments from USD to EUR a 12 months ago, we now would see a better exchange rate for that, and we wouldn't suffer the worse EUR->USD exchange rate on sourcing |
| 21:46.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | well ... *IF* |
| 21:47.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm no investment banker |
| 21:48.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, thanks for mentioning it. It's actually something we should consider if we can improve our procedures |
| 21:48.58 | specing | you are buying components in usd, right? |
| 21:49.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually, yes |
| 21:49.16 | specing | I'd advise just keeping the funds in usd, then |
| 21:49.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, thanks |
| 21:49.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | we'll check how to implement that |
| 21:50.06 | specing | I wonder if it would be possible to have an account in which you can store all currencies |
| 21:50.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno |
| 21:50.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | never checked so far |
| 21:50.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | I +think* at least paypal allows such option |
| 21:50.36 | specing | probably costs $$$ for no valid reason whatsoever |
| 21:51.06 | specing | this would be better because you avoid conversions until you actually need to buy something |
| 21:51.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | then for several reasons we don't want to keep huge amounts of funds in PP account |
| 21:51.44 | specing | its all 1% here, 3% there, 10% everywhere |
| 21:51.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | they could get blocked, killing our business |
| 21:51.54 | specing | and then you are out of funds and have to close shop |
| 21:52.05 | specing | true |
| 21:53.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, brinner still pending. afk. thanks again |
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| 22:04.47 | wpwrak | what one usually does is open one account per currency. mixed-currency accounts would be weird. |
| 22:06.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | and messy to handle |
| 22:06.48 | wpwrak | also, i would expect that most of out payments for components would be in EUR, right ? i.e., if GC sources most of the things, they'll probably bill us in EUR even if they themselves pay some things in USD |
| 22:07.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, that's likely |
| 22:07.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | we should ask them |
| 22:08.25 | wpwrak | and if an operation has enough in- and outbound transfers in different currencies, which GC probably does, they may simply be their own exchange house and just move bookings between accounts, without actually exchanging money |
