| 00:00.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | HAH!!! |
| 00:00.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | my system time stalled 1 s |
| 00:00.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | exactly like it's supposed to be |
| 00:01.15 | Oksana | Just asking because of http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94212 |
| 00:04.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | differences between N900, BB-xM and Neo900 are marginal on this level |
| 00:04.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | and Pandora and GTA04 |
| 00:05.50 | Oksana | and Pyra ? ;-) |
| 00:06.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pyra is OMAP5 |
| 00:06.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically a completely different hw platform |
| 00:07.45 | Oksana | Okay... /Wondering why I haven't heard of OpenBSD running on N900.../ |
| 00:07.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's even unclear if it's binary compatible |
| 00:08.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | unclear to me |
| 00:08.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | (not heard of) no idea |
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| 00:10.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | omap3 is cortex-A8, omap5 is dual A15? |
| 00:11.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | (not heard of BSD) prolly since it lacks drivers for "special peripherals", particularly for cmt |
| 00:12.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | mind you, BB-xM doesn't have modem |
| 00:13.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | and maybe nobody bothered to port e.g. phonet yet |
| 00:13.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, ofono |
| 00:14.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | luckily Neo900 doesn't need any such kinky drivers for modem |
| 00:15.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonders why win7 box auto-wokeup a ~45min ago |
| 00:16.34 | Oksana | Okay, so how many drivers would Neo900 lack if somebody took a "simple" OpenBSD image for armv7, tried to add drivers from within Maemo 5, and tried to use it? Would it be able to handle keyboard, keyboard backlight, LCD, touchscreen, speakers?.. |
| 00:18.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno what drivers exist in OpenBSD. You can't add maemo5 drivers |
| 00:18.58 | Oksana | Because Maemo 5 operating system is too different from OpenBSD to just re-use the drivers? |
| 00:19.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | for speakers/audio you probably need a ALSA port |
| 00:19.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | OpenBSD is not linux |
| 00:20.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know much about BSD |
| 00:21.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I however gather that the kernel driver modules have different structure/API/generic-rules how to build them |
| 00:21.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | just like you can't simply recompile a windows program for linux |
| 00:22.26 | Oksana | Okay. Unix-not-Linux. For OpenBSD BeagleBoard xM, supported on-board devices: standard serial port (com), watchdog controller (omdog), GPIO controller (omgpio). Ookay... Thank you. |
| 00:22.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | (unless maybe it's using Qt on both platforms, and even then) |
| 00:24.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess there must be more supported on-board devices than those three in OpenBSD for BB-xM |
| 00:26.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | N900 is using a pretty standard (for omap3) way to poll the kbd matrix, so I'd bet there must be a driver for that in OpenBSD |
| 00:27.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | for example |
| 00:33.45 | Oksana | ARM-based appliances [nothing yet] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq12.html#armish |
| 00:36.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ??? |
| 00:37.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | didn't you say there was a OpenBSD for BB-xM? |
| 00:37.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | >><Oksana> OpenBSD lists BeagleBoard xM as supported platform<< |
| 00:38.14 | Oksana | Yes: http://www.openbsd.org/armv7.html But: Many pre-built packages for each architecture: arm: 0 |
| 00:38.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | BB-xM *is* ARM based. Dunno if it's an "appliance" though |
| 00:38.46 | Oksana | There are generally still a fair number of things to do on each of these boards, however OpenBSD is generally considered to be usable on them. ^ |
| 00:39.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, no BSD experience here. I can't comment |
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| 01:14.47 | Wizzup | or netbsd with minix |
| 01:14.55 | Wizzup | minix runs on the bbb ;) |
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| 06:46.39 | pigeons | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/437 |
| 06:46.49 | pigeons | i just pretend this channel is #devuan or something |
| 06:47.58 | Oksana | hey, #devuan has more users! Or is it too quiet? |
| 06:48.23 | pigeons | i have a hard enough time managingthe windows for the channels i'm in |
| 06:49.33 | Oksana | Number of channels is close to 50, for me, at the moment. Not easy to manage, but I cope with all the tabs (Chatzilla) |
| 06:54.01 | Oksana | Yes, the NTP servers are important. Cannot mobile devices use GPS satellites for time-syncing, or something? It doesn't have to be done frequently, right? |
| 06:55.44 | Oksana | For more frequent time-checking, cellular towers may be helpful. As well as user-set (through whatever GUI-or-CLI user prefers) NTP server (if you are connecting to Internet regularly enough for that to be useful) |
| 07:02.01 | Oksana | How is it going with sourcing of housings from Nokia N900? |
| 07:02.15 | Oksana | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95482&page=6 ^ |
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| 08:05.39 | R0b0t1 | vibrates |
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