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| 18:12.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: fix welcome screen to allow closing it by hw button press or ctrl-Q? |
| 18:13.08 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: it is closed :-( |
| 18:13.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | sheeet |
| 18:13.19 | Pali | and written in C++ (instead C) |
| 18:13.22 | Pali | so hard to RE |
| 18:13.25 | Pali | maybe impossible |
| 18:13.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy |
| 18:13.41 | Pali | one piece of C++ program in Maemo... |
| 18:13.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | wrap into a wrapper which you could kill off? |
| 18:14.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://campmap.mazdermind.de/ |
| 18:14.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops |
| 18:14.40 | Pali | I will wait... I believe somebody could know why SPI bus is broken |
| 18:14.45 | Pali | in 4.2-rc1 kernel |
| 18:15.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, but that shit welcome screen needs to die or get fixed anyway |
| 18:15.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe simply kill it after 90s |
| 18:17.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((why SPI bus is broken)) blame DT ;-) |
| 18:19.02 | Pali | this looks like some bug in spi code |
| 18:19.06 | Pali | or maybe drivers... |
| 18:19.27 | Pali | and I see also problems with i2c bus and drivers |
| 18:19.30 | Pali | timeout errors |
| 18:19.46 | Pali | twl4030 parts probe failing... |
| 18:20.06 | Pali | but after few seconds at second/third attmpt, they are ok |
| 18:20.09 | Pali | and drivers loaded... |
| 18:20.26 | Pali | I believe it is just some funny race condition error |
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| 18:20.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ouch |
| 18:20.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | power sequencing? |
| 18:21.12 | Pali | problem with linux kernel globally is that you cannot write driver dependency... (A depends on B, B depends on C, ...) |
| 18:21.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | OUUUUUUCH |
| 18:21.43 | Pali | and if kernel init drivers in random order, just init functions check unment dependency and return -EPROBEDEFER |
| 18:21.47 | Pali | or what |
| 18:22.19 | Pali | and after some time kernel try to call driver init function again |
| 18:23.02 | Pali | it is same as problem with isp1704 and bq2415x drivers... isp1704 send events to bq2415x about "charger attached" |
| 18:23.20 | Pali | so bq2415x in init code has check if isp driver is loaded and working |
| 18:23.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 18:23.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | hail DT |
| 18:24.03 | Pali | its not DT |
| 18:24.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | exactly |
| 18:24.10 | Pali | same problem is with board code |
| 18:24.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | since DT lacks any reasonable way to handle that |
| 18:24.31 | Pali | problem is in kernel itself |
| 18:24.41 | Pali | with device drivers API |
| 18:24.49 | Pali | no way to define this situation |
| 18:24.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 18:25.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | my complaints since.... ages |
| 18:25.26 | Pali | this problem is also x86 systems |
| 18:25.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | drivers need to be smart and platform specific |
| 18:25.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | with DT they are not |
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| 20:19.50 | pigeons | dt = device trees? |
| 20:20.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
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| 22:22.35 | jurov | http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2015/08/features/moores-law/viewall |
| 22:22.53 | jurov | "After Moore's Law: how phones are becoming open-source" ;) |
| 22:24.46 | MonkeyofDoom | by bunnie :) |
| 22:32.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | Bunnie! :-D |
| 22:32.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks a lot! |
| 23:01.14 | Oksana | wonders if it is possible to attach an external mouse by the time of welcome screen, to use it instead of touchscreen? Likely not? |
| 23:01.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | likely not |
| 23:02.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'd need to enable hostmode |
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