| 00:10.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1506509 |
| 00:11.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: ^^^ |
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| 08:38.28 | ceene | ack! |
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| 15:56.03 | wpwrak | ceene: another block-diagram-with-locations update: https://neo900.org/stuff/werner/v2loc/v2loc |
| 15:57.07 | wpwrak | i changed the background colors to be generally lighter, so that black text is still readable. before, i set some text to white but that didn't really work. |
| 15:58.11 | ahycka | wpwrak http://imgur.com/mwgEms5 |
| 15:58.13 | wpwrak | alas, it now has a fairly greyish look (not too unlike what i see when peeking out of the window :), but i hope readability has improved |
| 15:58.22 | ahycka | this a very first approach, just to see what fits |
| 15:58.38 | ahycka | only the biggest components have been placed without any consideration whatsoever to their real location |
| 15:59.00 | ahycka | there are some other small chips that can fit in the empty space |
| 15:59.28 | wpwrak | hmm, that scale looks strange |
| 15:59.29 | ahycka | and lots of smd components, most of which will probably decoupling capacitors which are not also easier to place on the opposite side of the board, but also very recommended |
| 15:59.37 | ahycka | that's as imported from eagle |
| 15:59.49 | ahycka | almost or maybe all footprints have been imported without problem |
| 15:59.55 | wpwrak | lemme check ... |
| 15:59.57 | ahycka | the biggest thing is the modem |
| 16:00.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | it seems you've put a rather large second SIM-tray in there |
| 16:00.08 | wpwrak | aah, that's the modem. okay |
| 16:00.15 | ahycka | yep, biggest thing is the modem |
| 16:00.18 | ahycka | two simtrays |
| 16:00.32 | ahycka | leftmost is wlan |
| 16:00.34 | ahycka | vibrator below |
| 16:00.38 | ahycka | speakers at each corner |
| 16:00.45 | ahycka | small bob connector up right |
| 16:01.06 | ahycka | IR above modem, near the edge of the pcb |
| 16:01.18 | ahycka | and something to the right of one speaker that i just forgot what it is |
| 16:01.55 | ahycka | ah, that's the nfc controller |
| 16:02.04 | ahycka | everything else is either small chips or smd components |
| 16:02.22 | ahycka | it seems that these things will fit very easily |
| 16:03.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | U1601 is TRF7970 |
| 16:03.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | NFC |
| 16:03.37 | ahycka | yep, correct |
| 16:03.52 | ahycka | as i say, i've just placed biggest things to see if they fit together |
| 16:04.00 | ahycka | as a vast approach, looks good |
| 16:04.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 16:04.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks a lot |
| 16:04.26 | ahycka | the numbers you'ev passed to ceene are quite good too |
| 16:04.39 | ahycka | as 100x50 which is a rectangle inside the pcb |
| 16:04.42 | ahycka | is 5000mm^2 |
| 16:04.46 | ahycka | of which we have two sides |
| 16:04.56 | ahycka | so that's cleary more than 6000mm^2 |
| 16:05.01 | ahycka | as 10>6 :) |
| 16:05.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | wpwrak: could you please have a closer look and suggest further action, I need to go shopping for 2h |
| 16:09.58 | wpwrak | i think the next items would be to define exact component locations for the bits that need to be at a specific place, and to integrate the pending changes into the schematics |
| 16:10.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw we won't use that IrDA module |
| 16:10.28 | ahycka | yeah, i guess simcard and other things have strict placement definitions |
| 16:10.34 | wpwrak | later on we'll also need a height profile for S4 (to match the slider) but that's not really a concern for v2 |
| 16:10.47 | ahycka | if that irda module is not the tone, schematic shall be updated before routing then |
| 16:11.03 | ahycka | s/tone/one/ |
| 16:11.21 | ahycka | blames infobot |
| 16:13.41 | wpwrak | sim#2 is also quite different. and i still have to find a nice place for it :) well, the exact place. we have a rough location (front edge, to the right, on S2) |
| 16:14.30 | ahycka | ok |
| 16:14.34 | ahycka | we're going home now! |
| 16:14.35 | ahycka | cya! |
| 16:14.54 | wpwrak | ahycka: seeya ! and thanks a lot ! |
| 16:18.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-05-29 Sun 18:30:09] <DocScrutinizer05> sheet#19 please discard U1902 "alternative IrDA module" |
| 16:18.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-05-29 Sun 18:24:19] <DocScrutinizer05> soory for above mistake: leading *LOWER* and trailing *UPPER* in schematics |
| 16:18.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-05-29 Sun 18:25:41] <DocScrutinizer05> except sensors (sheet#10) which all may go to upper |
| 16:18.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-05-29 Sun 18:28:28] <DocScrutinizer05> for sheet#18 (hackerbus) please see the note and refer to the HB.pdf from resources which has details on the connectors to be used |
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| 17:39.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~die |
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| 18:17.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~die |
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| 18:18.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
| 18:32.06 | xman | Having a hard day Doc? |
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| 18:52.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | nothing unusual |
| 18:53.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | just the bot had a hickup on the "apt" nick/account, which I learned why and how to work around that |
| 18:54.43 | xman | Ah, okay I see :D. Just checking in ;) |
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