IRC log for #neo900 on 20160829

00:22.28DocScrutinizer05it's even possible this is what it actually did (except the contract of course). Insects are surprisingly smart in some very narrow special regards
00:26.46DocScrutinizer05In Spain I observed a monster killer wasp that had killed a small (yet too large) lizard, which it couldn't get off the ground. So it flew a prety precise circly with a radius of 2 to 3 m around the lizard, then straight radius line back to the lizard, dragged it shortest way to next wall and climbed up the wall with it to have a jump start from 1.5m altitude - which failed since the lizard still was too heavy. So wasp and lizard landed
00:26.47DocScrutinizer05a few meters away from the wall and the wasp started exactly same procedure all over again
00:27.33DocScrutinizer05pretty precise circle*
00:29.12DocScrutinizer05so smart and yet so stupid
00:52.17DocScrutinizer05I can't find what insect this been :-/
00:53.36DocScrutinizer05It looked like a huge black wasp with very thin middle iirc. The lizard was maybe 50 to 70mm long (incl tail)
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02:02.59wpwrakblack, kills 7 cm lizards, has trouble transporing them .... maybe you saw this one, having a bad hangover from the night before ? http://www.drytortugasblog.com/fortjefferson-drytortugas-birdblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/BAEA-flight.jpg
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02:07.51DocScrutinizer05much rather looked similar to this https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Daboor001.jpg one, than to the one you found ;-)
02:08.41DocScrutinizer05it's like 35 years ago, I might have forgotten how the thing actually looked, but I'm sure it wasn't the one on your photo
02:08.42wpwrakhmm. looks like the sort of thing that's supposed to be eaten by lizards. not the other way around. well, maybe wasps over there don't read wikipedia ...
02:22.13DocScrutinizer05no idea. It been the beach close to Rota, who knows what they breed there
02:23.21DocScrutinizer05https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Station_Rota,_Spain
02:26.18wpwrakah yes 35 years ago, cold war, naval base, secret biological warfare research facility ... now it makes sense :)
02:28.59DocScrutinizer05https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiatische_Riesenhornisse  size 27 - 45 mm
02:29.56DocScrutinizer05wingspan 76mm
02:31.21DocScrutinizer05the one I recall looked less colorful but at least the dimensions sound absolutely correct
02:32.56wpwrak"Ein Stich der Riesenhornisse wird als äußerst schmerzhaft beschrieben." now that's unexpected ;-)
02:33.39DocScrutinizer05indeed, particularly since the sting is a feeble 6mm long
02:34.47wpwrakseems that elephants and hedgehogs are not on their regular menu :)
02:40.45DocScrutinizer05bees kill them in heat balls. What I said: insects and spiders may act pretty smart
02:48.20wpwrakthere's something to be said about refining your technique over a few dozen megayears of trial and error
02:51.42DocScrutinizer05indeed, also about the results of that process: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stechimmen 50,000 kinds
02:52.00DocScrutinizer05might get difficult to find the exact kind I seen
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07:51.55DocScrutinizer05[2016-08-29 Mon 06:20:43] <DocScrutinizer05> microvia-in-pad - how did that work on kicad?
07:51.56DocScrutinizer05[2016-08-29 Mon 06:20:49] <azonenberg> I wrote half the patches to make it work
07:52.33DocScrutinizer05[2016-08-29 Mon 06:20:50] <azonenberg> :P
07:52.35DocScrutinizer05[2016-08-29 Mon 06:20:54] <azonenberg> But it works now
07:52.36DocScrutinizer05[2016-08-29 Mon 06:20:59] <DocScrutinizer05> great! :-)
07:52.38DocScrutinizer05[2016-08-29 Mon 06:21:06] <azonenberg> this was ~2 yrs ago
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17:14.16DocScrutinizer05[news] 30 N900 arrived, 10 are trapped in customs. Random strikes
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17:18.27DocScrutinizer05[sidenote] http://paste.opensuse.org/77940452
17:21.08atkOutlook blocked your mail?
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17:21.44DocScrutinizer05yep
17:22.52atkWell, at least nobody you send to uses Windows 365 mail crap.
17:22.58DocScrutinizer05funny enough their answer about "mitigating" gathered a 6.3 of 5 on my spamassassin
17:23.00atkThat stuff seems to send everything to spam.
17:23.30atkI have DKIM, SPF and DMARC set up.
17:23.34atkMy domain is DNSSEC signed.
17:24.03DocScrutinizer05might all be worthless. Allegedy we been range-banned
17:24.37DocScrutinizer05our reputation been 97
17:25.01DocScrutinizer05FU M$
17:25.20atkThey probably blocked you as a tactic to stifle business.
17:25.28DocScrutinizer05possibly
17:25.53DocScrutinizer05their mitigation msg was true spam anyway
17:26.02atkWith microsoft you just assume the worst and you'll probably always be right.
17:26.16DocScrutinizer05I wholeheartedly agree with Bayes here
17:26.42atkI use a bayesian spam filter.
17:27.00wpwrakDocScrutinizer05: "Conditionally mitigated" sounds good, though.
17:27.02atkThe aptly named spambayes
17:27.43DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/67932222
17:30.10atkCan I send you an email and see what spamassassin thinks?
17:30.39DocScrutinizer05wpwrak: "Conditionally mitigated" is the first step in turning this into spam by making you wonder what you need to do to meet the conditions
17:30.54DocScrutinizer05so they go on suggesting a few measures
17:31.38DocScrutinizer05atk: go ahead, please send to my /ns info email though
17:35.09DocScrutinizer05OUCH! (well, at least 0.0 rating):  0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM          Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider           (XXXX.XXX.mail[at]web.de)
17:36.08wpwrakthe rDNS complaint is strange. i see the PTR record well enough with dig -x. however, when i go here:  https://remote.12dt.com/  all i get for 85.10.210.203 is an empty string
17:36.40DocScrutinizer05hmm?
17:36.52DocScrutinizer05this was about THEIR mail, not ours
17:37.00atkDocScrutinizer05: That wasn't me, you mean the info email address?
17:37.11DocScrutinizer05nope, not you, a user
17:37.14DocScrutinizer05yesterday
17:37.23DocScrutinizer05rated 7.3 total
17:37.52DocScrutinizer05HTML-only mail
17:38.00DocScrutinizer05X-PRIO flag
17:38.36DocScrutinizer05and the above mentioned FREEMAIL_FROM, plus more
17:39.42atkDocScrutinizer05: Sent
17:39.56DocScrutinizer05atk: score 2.5, required 5
17:40.04atkWhere's the 2.5 from?
17:40.16atkbayesian?
17:40.21wpwrak(their mail) oh :-) so both sides are accusing the other of spam. oh the joy ...
17:41.26DocScrutinizer05X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on saturn
17:41.27DocScrutinizer05X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD, TVD_RCVD_SPACE_BRACKET,T_DKIM_INVALID,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2
17:41.35DocScrutinizer05*shrug*
17:41.48atkscore is -2.5 not 2.5 :P
17:41.55DocScrutinizer05ooh :-D
17:42.04atkhmm, T_DKIM_INVALID and UNPARSEABLE_RELAY ?
17:42.13DocScrutinizer05those are TESTS
17:42.18DocScrutinizer05not scores
17:42.20atkAh
17:42.25DocScrutinizer05afaik
17:42.45wpwrakthe "" from remote.12dt.com seems to have been spurious. now it shows "neo900.org"
17:44.46DocScrutinizer05http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a85.10.210.203&run=toolpage
17:49.41DocScrutinizer05https://www.senderscore.org/lookup.php?lookup=85.10.210.203
17:57.06DocScrutinizer0597 (of 100?). Though nobody knows for sure what lookout_M$.fu does to rate your IP as blacklisted, several professional unlock services say you need a reputation of >75
18:00.49DocScrutinizer05MEH! http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a85.10.210.203&run=toolpage#
18:01.09DocScrutinizer05maemo.cloud-7.de
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18:32.36wpwrakthe spam defense singularity: when the internet has more blacklists that mail exchangers :)
18:33.50atkI happily manage with no blacklists and only a single bayesian spam filter.
18:33.54atkIt works surprisingly well.
18:34.38atkOut of around 1000 spam emails which have arrived in the past month, 0 were false positives, 3 were false negatives.
18:34.56atkI'd say that's a pretty impressive record :P
18:34.57wpwrakatk: me too
18:38.42atk(Of course I don't tend to the average 33 emails that appear in my inbox every day, but I usually don't get emails unless I expect them and I have not had any expected emails end up in spam in the duration of this filter's use)
18:57.30DocScrutinizer05try shit like "From:WINLV.EDFS.WW.00.EN.MSF.RMD.TS.T01.SPT.00.EM@css.one.microsoft.com"
18:58.32DocScrutinizer05wonders what's 'css'. Commercial Spam Service?
18:59.03DocScrutinizer05I get quite a number of flase positives
18:59.19DocScrutinizer05but also a few flase negatives
18:59.32DocScrutinizer05dang, f a l s e
19:00.11DocScrutinizer05my right hand thumb is "defect", amazingly that has inmpact on whole typing
19:00.47DocScrutinizer05"defect" as in "hurts while typing"
19:01.09DocScrutinizer05and _only_ while typing
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21:53.18enycatk: for me, pickyness, greylist, blacklist,  works well 'for me'  long story
21:53.43enycatk: though i'm going to rebuild my config // setup milters //  (long story)
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