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06:14.19 | brolin_empey | Joerg-Neo900: SFTP has at least two possible meanings: Secure File Transfer Protocol or Secure Shell File Transfer Protocol. |
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11:54.17 | Joerg-Neo900 | brolin_empey: my mimetypes interprete SFTP:// in unambiguous way |
11:55.52 | Joerg-Neo900 | https://www.startpage.com/do/search?q=SFTP |
11:57.29 | Joerg-Neo900 | I guess nobody nowadays thinks "simple file transfer" when SFTP |
11:59.07 | Joerg-Neo900 | though indeed SSH FTP aka SFTP is simpler than classical FTP |
12:01.41 | Joerg-Neo900 | see "FTP passive mode" and "NAT" |
12:10.36 | Joerg-Neo900 | >>Simple File Transfer Protocol (the first protocol abbreviated SFTP), as defined by RFC 913, was proposed as an (unsecured) file transfer protocol with a level of complexity intermediate between TFTP and FTP. It was never widely accepted on the Internet, and is now assigned Historic status by the IETF. << (wikipedia) I don't know what you meant by "Secure File Transfer Protocol", assuming you refer to "Simple" instead "Secure" |
12:10.59 | Joerg-Neo900 | there's FTPS which is differnet to SFTP |
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19:10.22 | brolin_empey | Joerg-Neo900: I thought that SFTP = Secure File Transfer Protocol is File Transfer Protocol using SSL/TLS. I do not remember the details because I have not studied this stuff for years. |
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20:17.12 | enyc | brolin_empey: Sftp is more like sort-of-ftp over ** SSH ** |
20:27.30 | Joerg-Neo900 | my workstation is pretty much messed up completely, after system upgrade :-/ this will take quite a while to fix |
20:27.50 | Joerg-Neo900 | particularly KDE is fubar now |
20:30.37 | houkime | Joerg, what is the reason behind U1101 exp connecting to a different ground from all other ground pins of this component? |
20:31.49 | Joerg-Neo900 | sorry I'm totally out of business, can't even switch windows ATM |
20:31.50 | houkime | it is because there won't be a split in a groundplane to accomodate agnd and we're using star instead? |
20:31.54 | houkime | ok |
20:33.02 | Joerg-Neo900 | yes, sounds like a reasonable explanation as far as I can follow |
20:33.25 | Joerg-Neo900 | we have some chips with both AGND and normal GND |
20:33.52 | Joerg-Neo900 | however pad should connect to one of them |
20:34.40 | Joerg-Neo900 | there shouldn't be a component that has all GND pins on one GND and only thermal pad on a different GND |
20:35.18 | Joerg-Neo900 | the data sheet needs to advice which GND to connect exp to |
20:35.39 | Joerg-Neo900 | or leave it completely unconnected |
20:35.43 | enyc | 'AGND = audio ground? |
20:35.47 | Joerg-Neo900 | yes |
20:35.51 | houkime | I will also try out Arch with KDE once they figure out Wayland. Should be quite resource saving since xorgless (ancient clunky monster xorg). |
20:36.13 | houkime | datasheet says to connect it to the same gnd as other pins - agnd |
20:37.52 | houkime | Just thought you invented some optimisation or have other reasons to go usual gnd for exp |
20:38.48 | Joerg-Neo900 | no, not afaik |
20:38.49 | houkime | thing is that you won't be able to do thermal vias if you don't have aunderlying agnd then |
20:39.11 | Joerg-Neo900 | what is this chip? |
20:39.27 | houkime | headphone ampli |
20:39.31 | Joerg-Neo900 | hmmm |
20:40.02 | houkime | my thought for audio was to have a whole region for agnd on the gndplane |
20:40.14 | Joerg-Neo900 | doesn't it have both AGND and digital/common GND? ut has I2C, no? |
20:40.14 | houkime | and concentrate stuff together |
20:41.22 | houkime | it has i2c |
20:42.03 | houkime | however recommended layout in datasheet uses only one gnd |
20:42.18 | houkime | which given this is an ampli should be agnd |
20:44.29 | Joerg-Neo900 | we use a different layout if we have a I2C GND on this chip |
20:45.31 | Joerg-Neo900 | sory this makes no sense. This KDE is total shit and I can't do anything to really help right now. I need to fix my workstation so I can work again (also for PIA) |
20:45.41 | houkime | ok |
20:46.03 | Joerg-Neo900 | I hope this won'T take the anticipated 2 weeks |
20:46.25 | Joerg-Neo900 | but as it looks right now, it might |
20:46.27 | houkime | btw what os you are trying out? |
20:46.55 | Joerg-Neo900 | I just upgraded |
20:47.11 | Joerg-Neo900 | which included KDE4 -> KDE5 |
20:47.46 | Joerg-Neo900 | which in turn nuked *everything* I got configured on my desktop during almost 20 years |
20:48.22 | houkime | my first reaction when shit like that happens - recompile problematic stuff from sources. |
20:48.32 | houkime | usually saves the day |
20:49.08 | Joerg-Neo900 | this is a config issue, recompiling stuff won't help |
20:49.39 | Joerg-Neo900 | also I couldn't even open a terminal right now |
20:50.08 | houkime | can you open a file manager? |
20:52.32 | houkime | or the terminal is broken itself? |
20:52.45 | Joerg-Neo900 | the desktop is broken |
20:53.20 | Joerg-Neo900 | I can't even reach the menu bar of my IRC client |
20:53.39 | houkime | on occasions like this (which I had), i have an emergency usb stick with a live medium |
20:54.14 | houkime | live medium for arch allows you to chroot into system. |
20:54.34 | houkime | probably other also have sth like that |
20:55.36 | Joerg-Neo900 | I jave ctrl+alt+F1 |
20:55.44 | Joerg-Neo900 | but... what then? |
20:58.17 | houkime | last time I did it I cleaned up problematic stuff from shell. You can purge your config files and reinstall kde probably |
20:59.28 | houkime | so that you can have a default kde again. |
21:18.05 | houkime | it is also possible that kde has a special CLI command to restore defaults. |
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21:28.45 | Joerg-Neo900 | ok removed the top-of-screen panel and added task manager to bottom panel, now (after session restart) I see window title bars again and also buttons in taskswitcher |
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21:54.45 | Joerg-Neo900 | what the hell??? is this new systemd "session" concept that every app loses connection to internet when you switch to a new X11 session? |
22:02.44 | houkime | S901: 1v8 decoupling is missing. Also looks like inappropriate number of decouplers for so many spacially separated pins |
22:03.00 | houkime | *spatially |
22:04.09 | houkime | inappropriate decoupling is a problem throughout several sensors on neo900 it looks like |
22:04.14 | Joerg-Neo900 | add decoupling as you see fit |
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22:21.22 | houkime | filled a bit my new issue tracking page. https://notabug.org/Houkime/Neo900-Issues/issues |
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