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| 04:48.51 | galiven | Worth figuring out how to get from San Francisco to San Jose and give some randow person I've never met $100 for a "Unlocked n900 Excellent condition"? (https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/mob/d/san-jose-unlocked-nokia-n900/6887571145.html) |
| 04:49.39 | galiven | Though right now I'm going to bed, so I won't see any answer til tomorrow. |
| 04:51.16 | xmn | no pic, is not encouraging. But depends how bad you want one. |
| 04:51.34 | xmn | I still use mine everyday. |
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| 07:06.09 | slobber | damn, too bad xmn left |
| 07:06.16 | slobber | does anyone else here use n900 daily? |
| 07:06.32 | slobber | if so, what's the preferred configuration? stock maemo or anything else? |
| 07:11.42 | sicelo | CSSU Stable is most preferred. |
| 07:12.26 | sicelo | I use it with CSSU Thumb. Haven't had any issues, but ymmv |
| 07:13.39 | slobber | interesting |
| 07:17.16 | slobber | wow, the process for getting to cssu and cssu thumb is really as easy as changing repos and installing the packages, huh |
| 07:17.43 | slobber | i feel like a few years ago when i still had my n810 things were not as streamlined |
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| 07:37.21 | sicelo | you've just got one? start with CSSU Stable for at least a week. You can play wth Testing and/or Thumb after that, and see which works best for your use case |
| 07:40.12 | slobber | sicelo: no, thinking of getting one |
| 07:40.27 | slobber | just siphoning the docs at this point |
| 07:43.14 | sicelo | two main problems to be aware of when getting one: (1) USB ports have a nasty habit of coming off, (2) modem stops working, and practically unrepairable. |
| 07:52.17 | slobber | both of those sound horrible |
| 07:55.33 | sicelo | not all devices get afflicted, but it'd be unfortunate to buy one with (2). |
| 07:56.36 | slobber | i can't find any in properly decent condition on ebay anyway |
| 07:56.39 | sicelo | the USB problem is not too bad, imo, if the port came off cleanly - i fixed mine myself, even though that was my first SMD job. |
| 07:56.47 | slobber | they're either beat up or refabbed in china or 300$ |
| 07:57.13 | slobber | i did a usb port on a phone recently, messed up the data pins though |
| 07:57.24 | slobber | so probably not going to attempt another for a _while_ |
| 07:57.37 | sicelo | look and ask on tmo as well ... i guess that's where you'll get some of the best condition N900 |
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| 07:57.59 | sicelo | (you can alwasy take the N900 to a proper electronics repair shop) ;) |
| 07:58.10 | slobber | tmo? literally tmobile stores? |
| 08:00.03 | slobber | here are a few, but not sure whether i should trust china's refurbishing https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=&SearchText=n900 |
| 08:00.07 | sicelo | https://talk.maemo.org/ |
| 08:00.13 | slobber | ohhh, right |
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| 15:42.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tmo |
| 15:42.42 | infobot | hmm... tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. |
| 15:42.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~usbfix |
| 15:42.50 | infobot | usbfix is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt, or to avoid breakage, see ~usb-unplug |
| 15:43.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | 100 bucks is steep for a used device |
| 15:44.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | anything you need (to know about) "best config": |
| 15:44.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lf |
| 15:44.56 | infobot | hmm... #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach |
| 15:45.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | knows a source of at least 200 devices in pretty much mint condition ;-D |
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| 16:32.51 | slobber | DocScrutinizer51: can you share that source? |
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| 17:29.00 | galiven | Haha, that makes sense that your stockpile is no longer called for since the project is done :'( |
| 17:31.25 | galiven | I've been managing with a GTA04 for a few years hoping the Nikolaus would overcome the hurdles on the GTA05 or my deposit on Neo900 would pay off. But the GTA04 is not in very good shape. |
| 17:33.01 | galiven | I confess that I put money down on the Purism phone too. It's far from perfect but all the free-er options have stalled. |
| 17:34.59 | sicelo | any updates on the pyraphone or some such? |
| 17:36.02 | galiven | Nikolaus has been working on iio-bridge in the kernel to handle multiple accelerometers as input devices, but the maintainer of that subsystem doesn't seem to like the approach. |
| 17:36.35 | galiven | Thats all I know from lurking on the list. |
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| 17:44.54 | sicelo | thanks for the info |
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| 18:44.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | have ab eye on cosmo communicator, not exactly "free" but... genuine support for multiboot, which means a bit at least |
| 18:44.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | an* |
| 18:46.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | a complete opposite the the purism approach as I understand it, which seems to be "our hardware our OS and we base our OS on something that once been debian" or somesuch |
| 18:47.51 | xmn | I can't wait for some of these device come out then tested and have the 2nd iteration put out. Which is kinda of the case for cosmo, but for them maybe the 3 or 4th vers. |
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| 23:18.53 | slobber | DocScrutinizer05: sooo can i hit up your "...source of at least 200 devices in pretty much mint condition"? |
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| 23:41.07 | Oksana | sicelo: Great to hear that USB problem is fix-able by somebody without soldering experience? |
| 23:42.50 | Oksana | DocScrutinizer05 : Small soldering iron, or better hot-air reflow... Will see what is available at makerspace. Watched the video a little, now I know that solder is not to be put at the tip of the iron - no idea how to clean tip of the iron though. I am guessing that soldering micro-USB port is quite different from soldering a through-hole chip? Reading up... |
| 23:58.29 | Joerg-Neo900 | yes, soldering the USB pins is quite difficult particularly to simply get by. For the reinforcement (soldering down the sheath to PCB) you need a rather large (80W+) soldering iron since the PCB has large copper planes that dissipate all heat |
| 23:59.46 | Joerg-Neo900 | for the pins hot air reflow with pre-wttwed/plated pads and pins and a lot of excellent flux, or even better using solder paste, is the better option for sure |