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01:05.22RPRats. The console corruption has come back :-(
01:07.48mjensenconsole corruption?
01:07.50CIA-703pb 07 * r1.2616 10packages-devel/gpe-autostarter/gpe-autostarter_0.11.oe: update gpe-autostarter to 0.11
01:08.52RPOn husky with a 2.6 kernel. I was having problems with corruption on the console. I thought when I fixed other things, it also sorted that as it disappeared. Its back (although the colour problem remains fixed)...
01:09.16CIA-703pb 07 * r1.2617 10packages-devel/hotplug-dbus/hotplug-dbus_0.9.oe: update hotplug-dbus to 0.9
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01:09.55CIA-703pb 07 * r1.2618 10packages-devel/gpe-autostarter/gpe-autostarter_0.11.oe:
01:09.55CIA-7add LICENSE to gpe-autostarter
01:09.55CIA-7remove useless SRC_URI
01:12.12CIA-703pb 07 * r1.2619 10packages-devel/gpe-beam/ (gpe-beam-0.2.6/vcard-send.patch gpe-beam_0.2.6.oe): update gpe-beam to 0.2.6
01:13.03CIA-703pb 07 * r1.2620 10packages-devel/gpe-announce/gpe-announce_0.12.oe: update gpe-announce to 0.12
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01:29.32CIA-703RP 07 * r1.2621 10packages-devel/linux/openzaurus_2.6.10-rc1.oe: Update mtd and w100 drivers in openzaurus_2.6.oe
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02:52.10treke|laptopyeah
02:52.30treke|laptopstarting my errands at quarter after five on a sunday wasnt the greatest idea in the world
02:54.11kergothheh
02:54.23kergothwhy do now what you can put off indefinately, right
02:54.43treke|laptophehe
02:54.55treke|laptopstupid stores closing early on sunday
02:56.27treke|laptophrmm. cool. my tivo controller can be programmed to work the tv
03:03.18chouimathttp://softgun.sourceforge.net/  <------ sound cool
03:04.04treke|laptop<PROTECTED>
03:04.10treke|laptoptoo bad it can't turn off my receiver also
03:04.55treke|laptopwould be cool if it turned both off
03:05.09kergothfuck, i'm behind on like every last bill
03:05.10kergothheh
03:05.39treke|laptophopefully you're just forgetful and not broke
03:05.58jacquesI'm not forgetful or broke - just a procrastinator
03:06.23treke|laptopI just don't like giving people money
03:06.39gb2kergoth: i discovered i was 3 months behind on my gas bill
03:07.04prpplaguekergoth: i'm not behind, just don't have any money until after 2:30pm tomorrow, hwhw
03:07.19kergothi'm forgetful and a procrastinator
03:07.22gb2it's the only one i can't easily pay under linux
03:07.22kergothwhich doesnt work out well
03:07.33gb2the website sucks
03:07.34kergothi need to set up bill pay and shit
03:07.40kergothah
03:07.41prpplaguekergoth: yea thats what i do
03:08.08kergothtreke|laptop: is it a valid assumption?
03:08.09kergothheh
03:08.18mithrosoftgun looks pretty cool
03:08.20treke|laptopkergoth: well I haven't payed it in the two and a half years I've lived here.
03:08.24treke|laptopand no one has called me
03:08.29treke|laptopso I give it even odds
03:08.35kergothhehe
03:12.34gb2most of my bills autopay to credit cards
03:12.39gb2and i pay the credit card online by hand
03:12.56kergothyeah, thats a good way to go
03:14.23treke|laptopI've got the credit cards set up to autopay the minimum, and then usually override that by hand
03:15.22treke|laptopthat way i'm not fucked if I forget to pay
03:15.53gb2treke: i'd do that if mine gave me that option
03:16.05treke|laptopah
03:23.18kergothPackage unionfs-modules wants to install file /lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/kernel/fs/unionfs.o
03:23.21kergoth<PROTECTED>
03:23.24kergothheh
03:23.27kergothAn error ocurred, return value: 1.
03:23.30kergothwhat the hell
03:23.40treke|laptopan error ocurred. duh
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05:32.39kergothbored.
05:33.33rasterkergoth:  CODE!
05:33.34raster:)
05:36.29kergothdrinking.
05:36.32kergothalcohol + code = bad
05:41.19rasteralcohol + code = wtf (next day)
05:41.20raster:)
05:42.17kergothindeed
05:42.40kergoththe *ideas* about code are often good, but the actual implementations tend to leave a lot to be desired
05:42.44kergothheh
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06:01.24rasterindeed
06:01.37rasterpassing out tends to work well for me
06:11.24emtei havent drank that much yet
06:11.26emte:P
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06:25.26treke|homekergoth: well I guess we'll find out once and for all if larry 8 sucks.
06:25.30treke|homemy dad bought himself a copy
06:25.58kergothah, cool
06:26.00kergothlet me know
06:26.41emteis/did anyone update rxvt-unicode?
06:27.20emtei didnt get a -4.0.oe in my latest pull
06:27.41emteand since 3.7 isnt there ...
06:37.28treke|homemy machine is hurting right now
06:37.29treke|homeno clue why
06:39.06ljpmaybe you punched it in the throat
06:40.09jacquesmaybe it's secretly a gentoo rsync server
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06:51.14ljpi have too much work to do
06:56.13kergoththis movie is so fucked up. good stuff.
06:56.31mithrokergoth: which one?
06:56.53kergothDonnie Darko
06:56.57kergothhadnt seen it in a while.
06:57.22jacquesi always get that confused with donni brasco
06:57.42treke|homehehe
07:04.27kergothheh
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07:31.40schurigrejoice, patcher became a debian package :-)
07:33.24mithroschurig: cool!
08:06.58ljpscarey.. whats next, ipkg? :)
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09:12.06treke|homescary?
09:12.11treke|homepatcher is a sueful app
09:12.20treke|homeit definitly belongs in debian
09:12.23ade|deskmorning all
09:16.38XorAmorning
09:22.28hrw|workhi
09:22.53hrw|workhow to fuckup working collie part3: install modules form oz-pxa kernel instead of oz-sa ones
09:24.10XorAooops
09:24.28XorAa very good reason for modules to change arch to machine name :-)
09:29.47hrw|workXorA: pxa zauruses can use same modules (probably)
09:30.18XorAhrw|work: hmmm, time for more ARCH= hacking?
09:30.43hrw|workor for more work on 2.6 for Z
09:30.58XorAalthough there is less harm in generating too many module packages then letting a newbie install pxa modules on collie
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09:34.58hrw|workschurig: 20040521 patcher in debian is much older then OE one
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09:50.37freythermoin
09:50.54hrw|workhi zecke
09:50.56freytherkoen|itc: h3600 image booted but shares same problems as any other oz distri
09:50.58freytherhrw|work: hey
10:03.45fdvis there any reason why there's no gtk2 native package?
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10:05.22mickeylprobably because we don't need one to cross build gtk2
10:05.35mickeylwe only add native packages if they're absolutely necessary
10:06.02fdvbut isn't it needed to compile software depending on gtk?
10:06.27mickeyldoesn't look like it. try oemake -nv <somePackage> to look for dependencies
10:06.47fdvI'm trying to set up a package, wxWidgets
10:07.04fdvand I need gtk-config for it to build
10:07.13hrw|workmickeyl: what about adding "-oz" to EXTRA_VERSION in oz kernels?
10:07.40mickeylhrw|work: yeah why not. i would prefer that after the 3.5.2 release though
10:07.42hrw|work2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix-oz
10:07.46hrw|worksure
10:08.08hrw|workmickeyl: that way it will be visible that kernel is from OZ
10:08.46mickeylfdv: you could ship a fixed gtk-config - which would probably be necessary anyway since you want it to point to our library and include paths - rather than to the auto generated or even worse - host paths
10:08.52hrw|workmickeyl: another thing... PACKAGE_ARCH=MACHINE in oz kernels - I installed corgi modules by mistake.. they load but not work as good as should
10:08.56mickeylhrw|work: yeah, something we could test for, then
10:09.34mickeylhrw|work: yeah, corgi only modules should have _corgi
10:10.02hrw|workmickeyl: or simply all modules should be for machiine
10:10.25mithrohey mickeyl
10:10.39mithroit looks like i'm not going to have a chance to touch that resolve stuff for atleast 4 days
10:10.58mickeylmithro: too bad. needs to go in 3.5.3 then
10:11.26fdvmickeyl: you mean like a shell script or anything that just returns the right include paths etc?
10:11.41mickeylfdv: yes. -config are almost always simple shell scripts. look at one :)
10:11.51mickeylmithro: we can ship an upgrades package lateron
10:11.54fdvoh, thanks :)
10:14.26ade|deskis there a way to step through the build of a package in oe ?
10:15.08hrw|workade|desk: oebuild showtasks path/file.oe will give you a list
10:15.44hrw|workade|desk: oebuild TASK path/file.oe - TASK can be clean, unpack, patch, configure, compile etc
10:16.11hrw|workhmm.. my module_licence.patch made for oz-sa applies to oz-pxa
10:29.46XorAdoes hotplug actually run usbd.agent in 3.5.1?
10:30.17ade|deskyay, at last, openssl compiles :)
10:32.06mickeylXorA: if it's in the hotplug directory I don't think why not. you should test it by catting something to a file though
10:33.51XorAmickeyl: thats what I am doing and it seems to be not run, this could explain why usbd0 doesnt work after suspend
10:34.43hrw|workXorA: can you modprobe usbdmonitor before suspend?
10:34.58hrw|workmickeyl: I have module_license.patch for oz-pxa
10:35.06mickeylhrw|work: cool. please add that
10:35.17hrw|worktakepatch: 864 new revisions, 0 conflicts in 517 files
10:35.24hrw|workbusy weekend
10:35.31hrw|work(I had 4 day long weekend)
10:36.35XorAah that works mickeyl
10:36.58hrw|workmickeyl: someone should synchronize oz-sa with oz-pxa - 2nd has bt950 applied but bt950 is also as a package
10:40.39CIA-703hrw 07 * r1.2624 10packages-devel/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): openzaurus-pxa: added module license to get rid of tainted modules
10:43.02hrw|workmickeyl: also information about patches will be nice - what does that, what other.. to know which ones are for fixing sharpisms and which for new functionality
10:43.17mickeylyeah, we should comment them a bit
10:43.30mickeyloh another thing, your buzzer backport broke "normal" sounds
10:44.00hrw|worknormal means?
10:44.03mickeyltouch
10:44.05mickeylalarm
10:44.05mickeylkey
10:44.06hrw|workalarms etc?
10:44.12mickeylvia the sharp_buz compat interface
10:44.26mickeylfixing the link is easy
10:44.39mickeylbut the buzzer patch is partyl broken for those sounds.
10:44.46mickeylit doesn't honor the loudness
10:44.55mickeyland it distorts the sounds
10:45.04mickeyli'll take a look at that
10:45.13hrw|workaha
10:45.26mickeylthe same things which i didn't like when we had the patch in 2.4.6
10:45.33mickeylbut never got around to fixing
10:49.04hrw|workwe we can maybe we should drop it for 3.5.2 and get it for 3.5.3
10:52.14mickeylya. i'm not sure if i get around to fixing it until 3.5.2 which i really would like to get out this week
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11:05.54hrw|worksomeonne know any project manager for KDE?
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11:35.14cmartinhi mickeyl
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11:38.02fdvmickeyl: wrt. gtk2 and native, isn't header and library files needed in the staging/BUILD_ARCH tree?
11:39.52rjanzhi cmartin
11:39.55mickeylhi cmartin
11:40.09freytherhi cmartin
11:40.37mickeylfdv: if you refer to BUILD_ARCH as the target, then yes.
11:40.51mickeylfdv: gtk installs the headers for later apps into staging
11:41.19rjanznow that are so many simpaders online, i must ask a stupid question, how do mount the remaining 16MB of flash in OE?
11:41.31rjanz(GPE-image)
11:41.53freytherrjanz: edit your /etc/fstab to get it automatically mounted
11:42.10freytherrjanz: or by hand mount /dev/mtdblock/2 /home
11:43.04freytherrjanz: but as long as we've no 'setup script' for the 2nd bank we will just leave it unused :}
11:43.22rjanzfreyther: thanks! that workd, I searched the list and the wiki did not find it :)
11:43.40rjanzI need it for the installation of firefox
11:44.04freytherrjanz: hehe, it isn't documented as it would be (once finished) transparently
11:44.15rjanzah ok :-)
11:45.01freytherrjanz: In case you want to know it: This split allows a) T-Sinus PAD support b) upgrading the distribution without deleting your home
11:45.12rjanzfreyther: I guess i need to create a destination in ipkg then I can install something there
11:45.34freytherrjanz: yes
11:45.34rjanzyea, I read that part in the IRC logs,
11:46.29rjanzfreyther: mickeyl mentioned you could some help with 2.6 , is there anything I could do?
11:46.52rjanzfreyther: could +use some
11:48.33freytherrjanz: basicly the complete mcp/ucb subsystem is missing
11:48.52freytherrjanz: the simpad uses it for sound, touchscreen, battery control, keys
11:49.06freytherrjanz: and USB client is not available for sa11x0
11:50.55rjanzfreyther: I am currently looking at the UCB for the touchscreen stuff anyway,
11:51.13koenfreyther: thanks for testing
11:51.14freytherrjanz: give me your email and I'll send you russels mcp/ucb receipe
11:51.29rjanzrudolf.janz@gmx.net
11:51.44freytherkoen: do you've a oe feed somewhere as well? The one looked in your homedir looked outdatat?!
11:52.08freytherrjanz: will send you the email once I'm home
11:52.25koenthe oe-ipk is the most recent, but i'll update it later this afternoon
11:52.35koen(and opie-sound fails on touch.wav)
11:52.55rjanzfreyther: I have not done kernel work, yet (but went through a lot of kernel code during my playing around with the MQ200), so might need some time to be productive
11:54.00freytherrjanz: lol mq200? My unaccelerate version is ported since one year :}
11:54.42koenfreyther: any idea how to fix opie-sond compilation?
11:55.01freytherkoen: is that 1.1.7oe or _cvs.oe
11:55.09rjanzrjanz: I was doing the accelaration stuff, and had some problems so I thought it was a problem with the setup, so I looked at all the code specific to simpad
11:55.14freytherkoen: I think hrw fixed a spelling error yesterday there as well?
11:55.16hrw|workkoen: update sources - I fixed it
11:55.24koenthe one in familiar-0.8.0.oe
11:55.34hrw|workkoen: pull from packages-devel
11:55.37freytherrjanz: for till it crashed the SIMpad as well, something gets corrupted
11:55.43koenhrw|work: aha
11:55.45freytherrjanz: and he posted one of his findings
11:56.06freytherrjanz: but the acceleration produced too high latency for him
11:56.09koenhrw|work: what's the simplest way to switch to package-devel?
11:58.36rjanzfreyther: the crashing part I had fixed after a while, but I had problems with corrupted reading of Memory by CPU (need by QTE)
11:58.49freytherrjanz: later :)
11:59.07rjanzfreyther: ok
11:59.34koenhrw|work: is bk newroot what i need?
12:00.26mithrokoen: i think reparent also works
12:00.26hrw|workkoen: bk parent
12:01.20koenok
12:01.26koenthaat was easy
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12:54.52koenzecke: opie build now
12:56.06hrw|workkoen: opie builds since yesterday evening
12:56.08koens/build/builds/
12:56.40koenwith the packages-devel repo it does
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13:55.09cmartink, sorry - i was destracted
13:56.17cmartinmickeyl, i did get a GPE image to build for the simpad, but nothing GPE related is installed in the image - and the image is 17MB
13:57.33cmartinsince it's 17MB it can boot and i get a login prompt on the console, but i can't login since part of the image is missing in flash (16MB partition)
13:58.26mickeylwhat do you mean with a gpe-image with nothing gpe-installed?
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13:59.30cmartinthe build goes through but i can't find any gpe progis in the rootfs DIR - only firefox for example is there
14:00.04cmartinwhere are the gpe stuff installed under? /usr/bin ?
14:02.10mickeylif firefox is there you have probably installed too much
14:02.23mickeyldid you sanity check log.do_rootfs and TMPDIR/rootfs ?
14:04.44cmartinill check
14:06.10zeckeany C Preprocessor guru around?
14:06.26mickeylsince we don't have a maximum size check in mkfs.jffs2 yet i would recommend disabling the --pad until you are sure your resulting image is not too large
14:06.27zeckehow can I stringify a #defined string
14:06.43zecke#define __stringify (x) #x doesn't work for me
14:08.33cmartinmickeyl, how can that be possible that too much is installed into rootfs? i don't mean in terms of the device flash. rootfs is populated with ipkg before mkfs.jffs2 even comes in, right?
14:08.59mickeylcmartin: example: ipkg installs 100mb of stuff into rootfs
14:09.12mickeylthen mkfs.jffs2 creates an image padded to 16mb out of that 100mb rootfs
14:09.13mickeylboom
14:09.33cmartinyes, but the rootfs still contains the 100MB of stuff, right?
14:09.41mickeylno, how can it
14:09.46cmartinhmm,
14:09.48mickeylit is getting truncated
14:09.58mickeylthat is why i recommend not to use --pad=16mb
14:10.02cmartinnot the image - the TMPDIR/rootfs
14:10.03mickeyluntil you are 100% sure
14:10.09mickeylyeah TMPDIR/rootfs will be untouched
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14:10.44zeckekoen: Some OE weirdnes: 'reboot' on sending sigterm/sigkill some process suspends the device
14:11.09zeckekoen: we should kill the process and force a core dump to find out whos is guilty (from within the apm bios)
14:11.11cmartinthat's the problem - the gpe progis aren't in TMPDIR/rootfs
14:11.52cmartini wipes TMPDIR/rootfs and am now running gpe-image again
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