| 00:00.24 | emte | ... i take it firefox's or mozillas extensions dont work with minimo? |
| 00:00.37 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2844 10packages/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Bleh, more PACKAGE_ARCH updates. |
| 00:00.39 | emte | since they have had gesters for a while |
| 00:00.48 | emte | getsers* |
| 00:00.55 | emte | blah stupid spelling |
| 00:01.00 | scanline | gestures? |
| 00:01.16 | emte | yeah |
| 00:03.42 | kergoth | keyboard under opie w/ tosa is unusable |
| 00:03.44 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:05.41 | joshua_ | kergoth: http://xstroke.org/help/ |
| 00:05.49 | emte | reminds me i need to pull my demesg dumps off my ipaq to figure out why it doesnt recog my keyboards |
| 00:06.04 | kergoth | yeah, just printed out the little reference sheet from it |
| 00:06.29 | joshua_ | hmm |
| 00:07.49 | joshua_ | draw perf is still really bad |
| 00:08.02 | kergoth | what device? |
| 00:08.13 | joshua_ | tc1100 |
| 00:09.42 | joshua_ | I'd like to see xstroke do something w/ pen pressure. would be neat to "push hard to write" |
| 00:10.05 | kergoth | does x's input handling support passing the pressure along? |
| 00:10.10 | kergoth | i know qte's doesnt |
| 00:10.14 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:10.29 | joshua_ | Xinput does |
| 00:10.37 | kergoth | cool |
| 00:11.12 | joshua_ | kergoth: GIMP knows how to deal with it, anyway... |
| 00:11.24 | kergoth | -rw-r--r-- 1 kergoth kergoth 9387264 Dec 3 19:01 opie-image-collie-20041204004123.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 00:11.27 | kergoth | thats a bit better |
| 00:11.31 | kergoth | joshua_: nice |
| 00:11.45 | emte | hmm |
| 00:11.50 | kergoth | i wonder how well a vector graphics app would work on a pda |
| 00:11.56 | kergoth | inkscape or sodipodi perhaps |
| 00:11.58 | emte | SysRq : HELP : loglevel0-8 reBoot tErm paGeinfo kIll saK showMem showPc unRaw Sync showTasks Unmount |
| 00:12.03 | joshua_ | hm. sketch* apps perform pretty badly... |
| 00:12.10 | joshua_ | (on 3700, at least) |
| 00:12.15 | emte | there were lots of cad apps so vector would be fine |
| 00:12.35 | emte | joshua_: you mean skencile now? |
| 00:12.39 | joshua_ | skencile? |
| 00:12.47 | emte | its what sketch has become |
| 00:12.52 | kergoth | oh, i forgot i added inkscape to oe. cool. |
| 00:12.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:12.55 | emte | fairly useful now |
| 00:13.17 | joshua_ | kergoth: heh. I'm still running debian on this machine. not gotten around to installing my ipks that I built for it the other day |
| 00:13.24 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 00:13.31 | emte | any idea on that sysrq? |
| 00:13.36 | kergoth | its sysrq |
| 00:13.37 | kergoth | what about it? |
| 00:13.45 | joshua_ | it's darn useful |
| 00:13.55 | emte | apperently its what happens when i plugin the keyboard |
| 00:14.13 | kergoth | ~google for linux sysrq |
| 00:14.45 | emte | was kinda hoping for a rought idea why ... |
| 00:15.11 | kergoth | for some reason its sending the sysrq keycode |
| 00:15.19 | kergoth | how the hell would we know why your keyboard is doing that? |
| 00:15.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:16.05 | emte | no clue since the kbd is reponsless except for this |
| 00:17.24 | gb2 | kergoth: 2005FPW for $600 now |
| 00:17.48 | joshua_ | http://joshuawise.com/~joshua/mmm-stylized.png |
| 00:17.49 | kergoth | gb2: yeah, treke mentioned that |
| 00:17.52 | joshua_ | emte: hit the break button |
| 00:17.53 | kergoth | damn good deal |
| 00:17.55 | joshua_ | inkscape++ |
| 00:17.57 | kergoth | makes me wish i waited on mine :) |
| 00:18.09 | gb2 | *click* |
| 00:18.10 | gb2 | :) |
| 00:18.30 | emte | break button ...? |
| 00:18.30 | kergoth | too bad i'm broke, i'd like a second |
| 00:19.37 | emte | hmm no find button |
| 00:24.51 | treke|home | hrm |
| 00:24.59 | treke|home | running behind. hope I didnt miss the cable guy |
| 00:25.14 | emte | i know opie has a keyboard app ... |
| 00:25.37 | treke|home | kergoth: getting the code for the 25% off was a pain in the ass |
| 00:26.41 | treke|home | been an expensive week :p |
| 00:28.54 | gb2 | > Please correct the 1 problem(s) before continuing. Your profile does not have any orders on record. To retrieve data for specific customer number, please enter the appropriate information in the Find missing orders section below. |
| 00:28.55 | treke|home | lcd + mythtv box |
| 00:28.55 | gb2 | !! |
| 00:30.41 | Zero_Chaos | kergoth -> #handhelds.org |
| 00:32.09 | treke|home | hopefully next week the box will get here so I can start playng with that : |
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| 00:49.19 | kergoth | hey raster |
| 00:49.45 | raster | kergoth, kergie! |
| 00:49.48 | raster | mornin' |
| 00:50.19 | kergoth | how goes it? |
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| 00:50.50 | raster | just woke up |
| 00:50.54 | raster | so err |
| 00:50.55 | raster | sleepie |
| 00:51.00 | raster | sleepy |
| 00:51.00 | kergoth | ~mornings |
| 00:51.02 | ibot | mornings MUST be destroyed! |
| 00:51.08 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 00:51.08 | ibot | thanks, kergoth |
| 00:51.12 | raster | now back to what i started last night |
| 00:51.22 | kergoth | what are ya working on? |
| 00:51.22 | raster | adding button grabs to e17/ecore |
| 00:51.28 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:51.29 | kergoth | cool |
| 00:51.52 | raster | so u can do - click to focus, alt+left mouse and drag anywhere in a window, alt +right mouse menu etc. |
| 00:53.13 | raster | i defnitely need a clone |
| 00:53.21 | raster | i dont have time to do all the shit i need to do |
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| 00:56.40 | kergoth | aw, inkscape bus errors on my Z |
| 00:56.42 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:56.58 | raster | god damn |
| 00:57.01 | gb2 | treke: did you order one of these? |
| 00:57.03 | raster | run inkscape on a z? |
| 00:57.11 | raster | a c series i hope at least? |
| 00:57.21 | kergoth | sl6000 |
| 00:57.23 | raster | thats going to need some res! |
| 00:57.26 | raster | aah |
| 00:57.27 | raster | ok |
| 00:57.27 | kergoth | 640x480 |
| 00:57.28 | raster | yeah |
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| 00:58.05 | raster | even for 640x480 its ui needs some seriosu refactoring |
| 00:58.06 | raster | but |
| 00:58.10 | raster | it would be cool |
| 00:58.10 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:58.18 | kergoth | i figured what the hell, worth trying |
| 00:58.22 | gb2 | HO |
| 00:58.22 | raster | to be abel to design stuff while on the train/walking around |
| 00:58.23 | raster | :) |
| 00:58.24 | gb2 | 9439 N Dec 03 Dell Inc. ( 0) Dell Order Acknowledgement |
| 00:58.26 | kergoth | yeah |
| 00:58.27 | gb2 | right as i say that :) |
| 00:58.32 | kergoth | gb2: nice |
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| 01:00.45 | treke|home | gb2: ordered a second? |
| 01:01.09 | gb2 | treke: no, this is my first |
| 01:01.14 | gb2 | i've been waiting for 2 weeks for a coupon |
| 01:01.14 | gb2 | :) |
| 01:01.15 | treke|home | ah |
| 01:01.18 | treke|home | welcome tot eh club |
| 01:01.24 | treke|home | took me a couple hours to get one :p |
| 01:01.25 | gb2 | it took a while before the confirmation email arrived though |
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| 01:01.37 | gb2 | i ordered the display about an hour ago |
| 01:02.01 | treke|home | how much did it cost you total? |
| 01:02.05 | gb2 | $654 and change |
| 01:02.14 | treke|home | bout the same here |
| 01:02.17 | treke|home | damn taxes |
| 01:02.25 | gb2 | yeah |
| 01:05.45 | gb2 | this is for my workstation at work |
| 01:05.45 | gb2 | hopefully i can get reimbursed for what work was willing to spend on a monitor |
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| 01:20.29 | Pendalar | I can't believe I like a Destiny's Child song.. gah |
| 01:20.39 | Pendalar | but this one I can block out the vocals |
| 01:21.22 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:21.34 | Pendalar | heard Lose My Breath? |
| 01:21.55 | Pendalar | got some nice march style snare drum goodness |
| 01:35.40 | kergoth | (gdb) file /home/install/usr/bin/inkscape |
| 01:35.40 | kergoth | Segmentation fault |
| 01:35.40 | kergoth | root@tosa ~$ |
| 01:35.49 | joshua_ | gdb gdb! |
| 01:35.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:36.05 | kergoth | damnit |
| 01:36.54 | treke|home | still no adelphia |
| 01:37.39 | Zero_Chaos | treke|home: waiting for adelphia to fix your crappy cable modem service? good luck getting good service from a company in chapter 13 |
| 01:37.48 | treke|home | no |
| 01:37.53 | treke|home | waiting for them to install it |
| 01:38.04 | Zero_Chaos | treke|home: LoL, I'm so sorry for you. |
| 01:38.29 | Zero_Chaos | I have Adelphia Service right now, I pay for 3500/384 and get 1200/128 |
| 01:41.20 | kergoth | okay, this is really fucking weird |
| 01:41.31 | kergoth | if i run /usr/bin/inkscape (which is a symlink to /home/install/usr/bin/inkscape), it bus errors |
| 01:41.37 | kergoth | if i run /home/install/usr/bin/inkscape, it runs |
| 01:42.14 | kergoth | well, it actually crashes |
| 01:42.18 | kergoth | however, at least it doestn bus error |
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| 01:43.12 | Pendalar | the symlink is just enough to do it in ;-) |
| 01:43.23 | kergoth | heh, apparently |
| 01:43.26 | kergoth | odd |
| 01:44.11 | Pendalar | kergoth that box in eu.nl that we tried to do OE builds on.. apparently it'll never be a good compiler box, but it might could be used for another purpose |
| 01:44.28 | Pendalar | not sure entirely what, as oz seems to have 3 mirrors, and hh.org is amassing a few |
| 01:44.34 | Pendalar | er |
| 01:44.39 | Pendalar | 2 mirrors and one main I mean |
| 01:45.58 | kergoth | root@tosa ~$ ipkg install -d root inkscape |
| 01:46.01 | kergoth | Installing inkscape (0.39-r0) to home... |
| 01:46.03 | kergoth | what the fuck. |
| 01:46.07 | kergoth | ~bitchslap ipkg |
| 01:46.09 | ibot | ACTION beats the sh*t out of ipkg |
| 01:47.29 | Pendalar | so do you have any immediant ideas in case I can't come up with one? |
| 01:47.58 | treke|home | Zero_Chaos: in theory I'm getting 4/512 |
| 01:50.00 | SuN | Pendalar: ever seen a Destiny's Child concert? |
| 01:50.51 | joshua_ | kergoth: hahah |
| 01:51.11 | Pendalar | nope |
| 01:51.32 | SuN | They're just fucking awesome in concert, great band and all. |
| 01:51.59 | SuN | It's remarkable what happens to a mediocre popsong if played live by good musicians. |
| 01:53.05 | Pendalar | I just really like this song |
| 01:53.31 | Pendalar | wife would prob like to go to a concert |
| 01:54.12 | SuN | I don't really like that new song, just the Jeff Queen-rattling is nice, but the rest is freaky. |
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| 02:05.59 | treke|home | I guess I didnt get home on time |
| 02:22.41 | kergoth | hmm.. i think i'll setup bill pay at the credit union for the bills i cant pay electronically through those companies |
| 02:22.46 | kergoth | like rent and mortgage |
| 02:23.41 | treke|home | that would avoid my last minute runs to the rental office every 1st |
| 02:23.49 | SuN | Rent and mortgage at the same time? Or are those just exampes? |
| 02:23.52 | SuN | +l |
| 02:24.04 | kergoth | i own a townhouse in minnesota, and rent an apartment in texas |
| 02:24.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:24.09 | SuN | Ahh ok |
| 02:24.09 | kergoth | treke|home: yeah, exactly |
| 02:24.15 | kergoth | speaking of which, i havent paid my december rent yet |
| 02:24.16 | kergoth | heh. |
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| 02:26.28 | treke|home | hrm. I think I hung up on adelphia |
| 02:26.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:26.51 | treke|home | new phone :p |
| 02:26.53 | treke|home | not used to it |
| 02:28.09 | treke|home | stress testing the sip phone |
| 02:30.12 | treke|home | need to call verizon tomorrow. want to see if there is a way to point my old phone number to a different one |
| 02:38.40 | treke|home | that way I could go all ip and keep the same number |
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| 02:49.57 | kergoth | anyone care if i rename zaurus-pxa.conf to zaurus-clamshell.conf? |
| 02:50.02 | treke|home | no |
| 02:50.06 | treke|home | would prefer it actually |
| 02:50.06 | kergoth | it isnt global to the pxa devices. tosa and poodle dont use it anyway |
| 02:50.25 | kergoth | also, i'm thinking about adding 'zaurus-clamshell' and/or 'zaurus-pxa' as an ipkg arch |
| 02:50.33 | treke|home | hmmm |
| 02:50.35 | treke|home | why? |
| 02:50.50 | kergoth | qte's config is device dependent |
| 02:50.55 | kergoth | but we dont need 3 versions of it |
| 02:51.04 | kergoth | we really only need one, since its the same between teh clamshells |
| 02:51.07 | kergoth | same for tslib, etc |
| 02:51.19 | kergoth | all the machine specific packages arent machine specific for those devices, thats why their rootfs is the same |
| 02:51.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:51.48 | treke|home | That makes sense. |
| 02:51.57 | treke|home | so if you want to do it, I guess it would be fine |
| 02:52.19 | kergoth | in my world build for all the devices, i end up building a bunch of packages over again that dont need to be |
| 02:54.33 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2845 10packages/conf/machine/ (corgi.conf husky.conf shepherd.conf zaurus-clamshell.conf): Rename zaurus-pxa.conf to zaurus-clamshell.conf, since its specific to those models, not all pxa zauruses. |
| 03:00.04 | kergoth | # The machine specific PACKAGE_ARCH is set to zaurus-clamshell because |
| 03:00.04 | kergoth | # machine specific packages (other than the kernel) are common across |
| 03:00.04 | kergoth | # all the clamshell devices. |
| 03:00.04 | kergoth | MACHINE_ARCH = "${@['zaurus-clamshell', oe.data.getVar('MACHINE', d, 1)][oe.data.inherits_class('kernel') or oe.data.inherits_class('module-base')]}" |
| 03:00.08 | kergoth | treke|home: heh, how's that look? |
| 03:00.30 | treke|home | look ok |
| 03:00.47 | kergoth | so everything but the kernel and modules get zaurus-clamshell, while kernel and modules end up with MACHINE |
| 03:00.56 | treke|home | kergoth: I dunno though |
| 03:01.09 | treke|home | modules should be fine with kernel-zaurus\ |
| 03:02.23 | kergoth | well, modules must match the kernel exactly. if the clamshells kernels diverge enough in the configuration to break the modules.. |
| 03:02.35 | kergoth | course you could argue that we'll never let their configs diverge that much |
| 03:02.44 | treke|home | I could live with either |
| 03:03.04 | kergoth | i'll leave the modules as machine specific. they dont take long to build anyway, screw it |
| 03:14.54 | emte | hmm |
| 03:15.18 | emte | anyone have an opie h36 image? |
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| 03:31.25 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2847 10packages/conf/machine/zaurus-clamshell.conf: |
| 03:31.26 | CIA-8 | zaurus-clamshell.conf: |
| 03:31.26 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.26 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.26 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.26 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.41 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2846 10packages/classes/ (kernel.oeclass module-base.oeclass): Set PACKAGE_ARCH correctly in kernel.oeclass and module-base.oeclass. |
| 03:31.48 | kergoth | thats better. |
| 03:55.37 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2848 10packages/BitKeeper/triggers/post-outgoing.ciabot: Quiet the CIA trigger a bit. |
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| 04:05.38 | emte | hmm |
| 04:05.52 | emte | looks liek cvs is active now but refusing connections |
| 04:06.09 | emte | wonder where the handhelds-sa kernel went ... |
| 04:28.17 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2847.1.1 10packages/classes/rootfs_ipk.oeclass: Improve the IPKG_ARCHS handling to make the recent zaurus-clamshells change actually behave. |
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| 05:28.40 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 06:40.42 | emte | hmm |
| 06:41.01 | emte | any reason treke removed or doesnt have the handheld-sa kernels? |
| 06:45.34 | emte | bah silly name is slight diff |
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| 06:47.13 | emte | must have gotten chomed |
| 06:47.16 | emte | chomped |
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| 07:33.22 | kergoth | hmm. |
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| 08:23.25 | ljp_ | embedded gentoo hey |
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| 09:16.30 | kergoth | hey koen |
| 09:16.47 | koen | hey kergoth |
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| 09:30.38 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2850 10packages/sbagen/sbagen_1.4.1.oe: Add sbagen 1.4.1 (A binaural tones generation tool, as requested by a user). |
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| 10:02.07 | kergoth | hey pb_ |
| 10:02.13 | pb_ | yo kergoth |
| 10:02.38 | kergoth | working on the oe release |
| 10:02.44 | pb_ | awesome |
| 10:02.46 | kergoth | just added license headers to all the files |
| 10:02.50 | kergoth | made it use python distutils |
| 10:02.52 | kergoth | etc |
| 10:02.57 | pb_ | ah, very good |
| 10:03.08 | pb_ | maybe I'll try to work on the docs today, in that case |
| 10:03.30 | kergoth | thatd be good, i'm gonna spend some time on them too |
| 10:03.49 | kergoth | going to try installing it as a .deb on my desktop and using it in normal locations |
| 10:03.54 | kergoth | havent tested that in a very long time |
| 10:04.12 | pb_ | ah, good idea |
| 10:05.10 | kergoth | pb_: also, i removed oecommander, the bash completion bits that are too hackish for my liking, and the SRPM handlers |
| 10:05.18 | kergoth | basically the incomplete and bitrotted stuff |
| 10:05.21 | kergoth | we can pick it back up later |
| 10:05.43 | pb_ | cool |
| 10:06.05 | kergoth | i dont feel like dealing with users asking why the oecommander binary doesnt work |
| 10:06.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 10:06.44 | kergoth | pb_: you've messed with the oemake bits more often than i have, did my recent change to the world handling look sane? |
| 10:07.11 | pb_ | haven't looked at it yet. I'll check now. |
| 10:07.14 | kergoth | k |
| 10:08.01 | pb_ | hm, my bk pull is going nowhere |
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| 10:10.29 | pb_ | kergoth: yah, I think that's OK. |
| 10:10.52 | kergoth | thought so, it seems to be behaving, just wanted another set of eyes on it |
| 10:11.16 | pb_ | another way to address that problem would be to have 'oemake -k' try harder to locate and satisfy all dependencies, even after it's decided to give up building something. |
| 10:12.08 | kergoth | yeah, i thought about that too. wasnt familiar enough with the code anymore to rearchitect that in any reasonable period of time, so .. this works :) |
| 10:12.53 | pb_ | heh, right. fair enough. |
| 10:13.12 | kergoth | besides, i hate spending time on the old codebase |
| 10:13.19 | kergoth | want to get the damn thing frozen and get oeng up to speed |
| 10:13.26 | pb_ | right |
| 10:13.51 | kergoth | i tried inkscape on my Z earlier |
| 10:13.53 | kergoth | bus error. |
| 10:13.56 | kergoth | enable alignment fixups. |
| 10:13.57 | kergoth | bus error. |
| 10:14.02 | pb_ | doh |
| 10:14.14 | pb_ | yeah, a few programs hate the new alignment behaviour. |
| 10:14.18 | pb_ | mozilla too. |
| 10:14.26 | kergoth | if i run it directly from my dest /home/install/usr/bin/inkscape, it doesnt bus error, it goes "Nothign to do" |
| 10:14.35 | kergoth | rather than through teh symlink |
| 10:14.37 | kergoth | which i found odd |
| 10:14.39 | kergoth | ah |
| 10:14.46 | pb_ | yeah, that does sound odd |
| 10:14.56 | pb_ | I'll have a play with it later and see if I can find out what's up |
| 10:15.38 | kergoth | it probably isnt that suitable on a small display anyway, but some sort of vector graphics app could be useful. |
| 10:16.43 | pb_ | hm. can anyone recommend a decent laptop? I need a small-ish screen (12" would be great, 15" probably too big), integrated wireless, at least 512MB RAM, video that works with linux, and as much battery life as possible. |
| 10:17.03 | pb_ | fed up with my broken ibook, need to get a new machine |
| 10:17.50 | koen | hmmm, except for the wireless I'd say an new *book |
| 10:18.34 | koen | dell has some 12" models, but they break as soon as you look at it the wrong way |
| 10:18.38 | pb_ | yeah |
| 10:18.48 | kergoth | sharp's mm10 looks like a slick little guy, Twiun[away] picked up one of those, but iirc it ships with only 256MB of ram |
| 10:19.02 | pb_ | if the airport extreme worked in linux, I'd probably have bought a new (t)ibook by now |
| 10:19.20 | pb_ | kergoth: yah, I looked at those too. cute, but like you say only 256MB (non-upgradeable) RAM |
| 10:19.49 | pb_ | they were really cheap, though. was tempted to buy one anyway. |
| 10:20.14 | pb_ | well, "really cheap" by uk standards. I guess that still translates to about $1200. |
| 10:20.24 | koen | pb_: tibooks are dead, albooks are the thing now |
| 10:20.33 | pb_ | koen: ah, I'm behind the times |
| 10:20.56 | kergoth | pb_: the mm20 is 512MB of ram, as is the mp30 |
| 10:21.04 | kergoth | all three are compact, light, built in wifi |
| 10:21.08 | pb_ | cute |
| 10:21.20 | kergoth | http://www.sharpsystems.com/products/pc_notebooks/compare/ |
| 10:21.38 | kergoth | wonder how the linux support is. should pester Twiun[away] |
| 10:22.57 | koen | sweet 9 hours with highcapacity battery |
| 10:25.35 | CoreDump|home | is there a way to tell a .oe not to install it's libs into staging/$whatever/shlibs |
| 10:25.39 | CoreDump|home | ? |
| 10:25.51 | kergoth | i dont think so |
| 10:26.05 | CoreDump|home | thought so |
| 10:26.10 | kergoth | we've hit situations where thatd be useful in the past, but its never been a big deal |
| 10:26.13 | kergoth | what do you need it for? |
| 10:26.17 | CoreDump|home | oz-compat |
| 10:26.19 | kergoth | oz-compat? |
| 10:26.21 | kergoth | heh, yeah |
| 10:26.23 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 10:26.35 | CoreDump|home | i'll just delete it from within the .oe |
| 10:26.40 | CoreDump|home | but that would be ugly |
| 10:26.43 | kergoth | i just OEMASK it, so it never gets built for a feed, which sucks |
| 10:27.44 | CoreDump|home | it *really* sucks to be forced to rebuild half your opie apps because they suddenly depend on oz-compat heh |
| 10:27.45 | pb_ | kergoth: those sharps do look cute. can't find anyone selling them in this country, though. |
| 10:27.53 | kergoth | ah, thatd be a problem |
| 10:27.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 10:28.01 | kergoth | conics.net used to do importing of the mm10 |
| 10:28.10 | kergoth | wonder if them or someone like them would import one of theothers |
| 10:28.23 | kergoth | course you're in the uk, so you'd get nailed by duties right? |
| 10:28.43 | pb_ | probably |
| 10:29.07 | pb_ | might be cheaper to take a flight to the US and smuggle one back in my hand luggage |
| 10:29.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 10:29.44 | pb_ | pcworld.co.uk used to sell the mm10, but they seem to have given up on sharp altogether now |
| 10:30.09 | pb_ | maybe I should just buy an ibook and swap my old non-extreme airport card into it. |
| 10:31.49 | kergoth | the core works great installed into the proper system paths. unsurprising, but good to be certain |
| 10:32.06 | pb_ | cool |
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| 10:34.14 | pb_ | ah |
| 10:34.20 | pb_ | "Sharp Electronics (UK) Ltd ceased selling notebooks in 2002" |
| 10:35.37 | kergoth | ah, thats too bad |
| 10:35.46 | pb_ | yeah |
| 10:35.48 | pb_ | ~lart sharp |
| 10:35.53 | kergoth | need to be in jp to get most of their decent stuff nowadays :\ |
| 10:36.15 | pb_ | yeah |
| 10:36.28 | pb_ | I should get my friend in japan to invite me to visit again. |
| 10:37.12 | pb_ | back in a bit, need to go plant some trees now |
