| 00:02.15 | zecke | koen|bday|afk: where again do you live in the netherlands? |
| 00:09.54 | Pendalar | still on glibc-localdata =-( |
| 00:10.03 | Pendalar | 24 hours into a build and that's all I've gotten |
| 00:10.05 | Pendalar | pretty sad |
| 00:12.05 | Pendalar | actually I'm betting it's stuck.. it's been on glibc-localedata-mi-nz for some time |
| 00:26.05 | scanline | heh, goto is really useful for error handling in C |
| 00:26.11 | scanline | look at just about any kernel source :P |
| 00:27.54 | zecke | scanline: by first Linux Kernel book told me how evil got was... |
| 00:36.18 | zecke | anyway time to sleep |
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| 00:54.50 | reenoo_ | I'm off to bed. 'night all |
| 01:00.22 | scanline | zecke: heh, weird |
| 01:01.46 | zecke | ? |
| 01:07.25 | scanline | the book telling you not to use goto :P |
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| 02:24.41 | Pendalar | my lava lamp keeps overheating.. going to have to put a dimmer switch or something on it |
| 02:25.09 | Pendalar | ={ |
| 02:25.24 | gb2 | it's killing the bulb? |
| 02:25.34 | gb2 | after about 2 weeks or so? |
| 02:25.56 | Pendalar | nah it's getting so hot that the fluid doesn't move right |
| 02:26.02 | gb2 | ah |
| 02:26.49 | Pendalar | my other one might be messed up ;-) my fault though... I moved it while it was still hot and got a big blob stuck at the longest part of the cone |
| 02:27.02 | Pendalar | so it can't go down enough to get to the coil or close enough to the heat |
| 02:28.04 | Pendalar | I'm hoping if I leave it on an insanely long amount of time the blob will slowly melt |
| 02:28.18 | Pendalar | if not I guess I'll tilt it and see what I can do to help |
| 02:30.40 | Pendalar | not very happy with the whole lava lamp experience thus far.. I wanted the little "accent" line ones |
| 02:30.54 | Pendalar | but ended up with 2 standard sized ones =-s |
| 02:32.25 | Pendalar | at any rate I have my x10 firecracker set and 2 lava lamps.. so I'm good to go for some /. referencing monitoring |
| 02:33.53 | gb2 | Pendalar: you could heat up the entire thing with some other heat source |
| 02:34.14 | Pendalar | my luck I'd make black marks on the glass |
| 02:34.19 | gb2 | don't point a propane torch at it though |
| 02:34.30 | gb2 | you'll have too much heat differential, and it'll crack |
| 02:34.50 | Pendalar | yeah.. and too the glass isn't perfect anyways |
| 02:35.04 | Pendalar | "each lava lamp is unique" blah blah custom whatever |
| 02:35.25 | Pendalar | there's plenty of places on my blue/green lamp that looks like little pinholes in the glass |
| 02:35.39 | Pendalar | maybe just an ultra small bubble inside the glass |
| 02:36.31 | Pendalar | if only I get get crond to play along with my php script to turn them on/off |
| 02:37.09 | Pendalar | the php script works by itself.. and I know that the script does run, but it doesn't handle system() calls from crond right |
| 02:37.12 | Pendalar | or something |
| 02:37.28 | gb2 | I saw a lamp once, and really wanted it (it was clear, with transparent but red lava) |
| 02:37.33 | gb2 | i haven't seen it again |
| 02:37.42 | Pendalar | I should look up one of my linux guru friends tomorrow, it's probably some lack of env var again |
| 02:38.00 | Pendalar | I have a clear liquid, red lava... not sure by transparent |
| 02:38.16 | gb2 | transparent == see through |
| 02:38.16 | Pendalar | to some degree all lava lamps have transparent lava when it's thin/hot enough |
| 02:39.03 | Pendalar | so I would assume I have the one you are talking about |
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| 02:39.53 | Pendalar | I have a blue liquid / green lava for "good" situations, and clear liquid / red lava for "bad" |
| 02:41.30 | Pendalar | ahh the red blob is melting.. looks like a big ass planet imploding |
| 02:43.38 | gb2 | heh |
| 02:44.00 | Pendalar | I know now to not move a lava lamp while the goo is still hot |
| 02:44.11 | Pendalar | I knew to not shake, but I thought a careful move would be ok |
| 02:48.21 | Pendalar | oh well I'll leave my goo-challenged lava lamps to their own design, and hope in about 8 more hours it might be mildly interesting |
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| 03:07.37 | noda | I'm about to upgrade to 3.5.2. Does GPE play music nicely in that release? :) |
| 03:08.25 | Cwiiis | Has anyone created a successful gpe-image since Christmas day? |
| 03:08.39 | Cwiiis | noda: What device do you have? |
| 03:09.01 | noda | Cwiiis: 5500 |
| 03:09.13 | Cwiiis | noda: Don't upgrade if you're using GPE |
| 03:09.20 | noda | Okay. Well, I'm not :) |
| 03:09.30 | Cwiiis | Resuming is broken, no major changes |
| 03:09.47 | noda | But I was considering switching. I need: todo list, mp3/ogg playing, text editor, and calendar. |
| 03:10.10 | Cwiiis | noda: Those should all work in 3.5.1, although mp3/ogg playing is a little buggy |
| 03:10.30 | noda | Is GPE faster than Opie to load or click around? |
| 03:11.24 | noda | Oh, and define "a little buggy" :) |
| 03:13.08 | Cwiiis | noda: Sometimes doesn't skip to the next song (and this bug can indirectly cause crashes) - And I'd say Opie feels faster than GPE, at the moment at least... But I prefer GPE and the flexibility an X environment gives you :) |
| 03:13.32 | Cwiiis | Although perhaps Qt4 will swing me completely... |
| 03:14.13 | noda | I'm looking for the fewest features imagineable. Basically, transport GNOME philosophy to a portable device :) |
| 03:15.26 | Cwiiis | noda: Well... It's a bit hard to recommend GPE over Opie, especially if you have a collie... It's being worked on, but Opie is just far more functional and user-friendly at the moment (on the collie at least anyway) |
| 03:15.36 | noda | Cwiiis: Okay, thanks |
| 03:15.55 | noda | Too bad I'm not as keen on my Zaurus as I used to be, or I'd probably hack at GPE myself |
| 03:15.56 | Cwiiis | noda: You are of course welcome to help :) |
| 03:16.02 | Cwiiis | Ah :p hehe |
| 03:17.25 | noda | Whee, flashing. |
| 03:18.51 | noda | Cwiiis: Thanks for your help :) |
| 03:23.08 | noda | Hrm. Shoulda asked before upgrading :P. Is wireless still flaky in 3.5.2? |
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| 03:39.15 | Cwiiis | noda: No idea... I haven't heard of anything wrong though |
| 03:39.23 | Cwiiis | Check the wiki I guess |
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| 04:03.39 | noda | A few packages on my sl5500 ask for "libstdc++"... how do I install that package? |
| 04:08.34 | kergoth | you add the 'devel' feed to your ipkg.conf. |
| 04:08.40 | kergoth | read the mailing list archives |
| 04:10.11 | noda | Thanks |
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| 07:08.47 | dougt | is there a way to force the re-fetching of a single target? does `bitbake -f target -c fetch` do it? |
| 07:09.13 | treke|home | -f doesnt exist iirc |
| 07:09.30 | kergoth | -f will force the execution of a task |
| 07:09.31 | kergoth | however |
| 07:09.34 | dougt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:09.40 | kergoth | the fetch task does nothing if its already been fetched. |
| 07:09.45 | kergoth | it goes by the existance of hte .md5 files |
| 07:10.05 | treke|home | I guess kergoth redid -f for bitbake :p |
| 07:10.11 | dougt | is there a "clean"? |
| 07:10.19 | dougt | per target? |
| 07:10.24 | kergoth | didnt bother reading the wiki at all, i take it |
| 07:10.32 | dougt | me? |
| 07:10.32 | kergoth | no, there's a 'clean' task for a given .bb period |
| 07:10.39 | kergoth | no per task cleaning |
| 07:10.51 | kergoth | and it isnt possible to undo the actions of do_stage without wiping staging completely |
| 07:11.03 | kergoth | just bitbake -c clean blah |
| 07:11.13 | treke|home | hmm |
| 07:11.15 | kergoth | this _is_ mentioned in multiple places in the wiki, i'm certain |
| 07:11.23 | kergoth | or bitbake -c clean -b /pat/to/blah.bb |
| 07:11.29 | treke|home | would that not run the clean task on all dependencies for the provider? |
| 07:11.45 | kergoth | treke|home: no, there's a flag on the task that indicates if it should be run on deps |
| 07:11.52 | kergoth | treke|home: clean is flagged that way |
| 07:11.54 | treke|home | ah |
| 07:11.57 | treke|home | cool |
| 07:12.10 | treke|home | that's probably for the best |
| 07:12.23 | dougt | kergoth: searching for clean yields nothing. http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/TitleSearch?auto_redirect=1&s=clean |
| 07:12.35 | treke|home | though I should file that away if I were to ever get back to the autobuilder |
| 07:12.45 | treke|home | which probably wont happen until after COW works reliably |
| 07:13.12 | kergoth | dougt: why are you doing a title search? |
| 07:13.19 | kergoth | dougt: it comes up immediatley in a full text search |
| 07:13.21 | kergoth | dougt: http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/FullTextSearch?s=clean |
| 07:13.25 | treke|home | or I guess I could just buy more ram for my server |
| 07:13.30 | kergoth | click "Find Page" on the top menubar |
| 07:13.42 | dougt | kergoth: doh. |
| 07:14.00 | kergoth | course it shows oemake, but bitbake _is_ oemake, just with some new bits added |
| 07:17.15 | treke|home | ~lart the rain |
| 07:17.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:17.44 | treke|home | I had the day off today and was hoping to take a nice fun drive up the coast |
| 07:17.46 | treke|home | then it fucking rains |
| 07:19.00 | treke|home | the only good news is that I didn't get the car washed first :) |
| 07:19.17 | treke|home | mostly out of laziness |
| 07:19.34 | kergoth | heh, i need to find a decent touchless car wash around here |
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| 07:59.57 | Bernardo | good morning |
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| 08:00.30 | uv | Good morning. |
| 08:00.43 | uv | Anyone there who can help with tslib ? |
| 08:01.05 | Bernardo | anyone else having problems building mplayer (distro=oz-3.5.3), failing when searching for libc.so.6? |
| 08:01.31 | Bernardo | it looks lit is is using my "standard" gcc instead of the one built by bitbake |
| 08:02.25 | uv | Bernardo: does your LD_LIBRARY_PATH point to the correct lib ? |
| 08:03.07 | uv | Bernardo: Did you install the bitbake gcc ? |
| 08:03.24 | Bernardo | uv: should be, as anything else has built by now |
| 08:03.38 | Bernardo | opie-* packages are already build |
| 08:03.49 | Bernardo | only mplayer barfs |
| 08:05.06 | uv | Bernardo: I had similar problems building opie-* with a version yesterday. Gcc is not installed. To install, enter the gcc-3.4.3 dir and call "make DESTDIR=whereYouWantIt install" |
| 08:05.33 | uv | Bernardo: Then add PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH with the new values. |
| 08:06.39 | uv | Bernardo: Btw, which tslib version has your opie ? Do you have shared or static libs. I am struggling since two day with a "do_population" problem. The shared libs are not built" |
| 08:07.43 | Bernardo | I am just doing a default build, that shouldn't be needed... No idea if I am doing shared or static libs |
| 08:07.59 | Bernardo | my tslib is cvs 20041127 |
| 08:08.06 | Bernardo | have to run now, see you later |
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| 08:22.35 | treke|home | hrmm |
| 08:22.40 | treke|home | kernel is oopsing on boot |
| 08:25.11 | uv | Anyone there who can help with tslib ? |
| 08:27.27 | treke|home | haha |
| 08:27.38 | treke|home | WARNING! You are running the wrong kernel |
| 08:27.39 | treke|home | I like that |
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| 08:35.16 | treke|home | ok definitly an oz 3.5.3 change |
| 08:40.24 | treke|home | I'm putting my money on openswan |
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| 09:07.57 | koen|bday | good morning all |
| 09:08.05 | treke|home | moenin kown |
| 09:08.08 | treke|home | koen |
| 09:08.09 | koen|bday | hey treke|home |
| 09:08.16 | treke|home | happy birthday |
| 09:08.20 | koen|bday | thanks |
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| 09:13.19 | treke|home | it's usb |
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