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00:00.42Pigibut it won't be better, removing it :)
00:00.59mickey|zzZZzzhehe, yeah
00:01.50PigiI suspect that next week would be a long debug nite weeks. My milling machine would have to wait :)
00:02.48Piginite all for the moment.
00:03.13mickey|zzZZzzgood idea
00:03.19mickey|zzZZzz*trying again*
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03:10.26kergothhmmm.
03:10.32kergothbusybox ifup doesnt appear to work at all on tosa
03:11.05kergothlooks like it requires that the device exists before it runs the pre-up scripts, so usbctl is never called
03:11.41jacqueswhat is this "tosser" of which you speak?
03:12.10kergothhm?
03:12.11kergoth~tosa
03:12.12ibothmm... tosa is Sharp SL-6000, or a dog (see http://www.jkc.or.jp/japanese_dog/j_dog7_e.html)
03:13.21kergothwow
03:13.28kergothi built unionfs for the Z with -DNODEBUG
03:13.36kergoththe kernel module is down to around 200k!
03:13.39kergothand still works
03:13.44kergoththat's actually reasonable.
03:13.50kergoth-rw-r--r-- root/root    213168 2005-01-15 22:14:54 ./lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/kernel/fs/unionfs.o
03:14.06jacqueshow big is it otherwise ?  reiserfs sized?
03:14.13kergothheh
03:14.14kergothdunno what reiser is
03:14.25kergothbut i've seen the unionfs.o be as large as 2.5 megs and as low as 1.2, depending
03:14.30kergoths/what/what size/
03:14.57jacquesouch! I thought reiser was big at around 600kB
03:15.31kergothgah, i guess i'd better put in a custom busybox defconfig & shit to get a real ifupdown on tosa
03:15.40kergothnot really in the mood to try fixing busybox
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03:28.25CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3020 10openembedded/packages/unionfs/unionfs-modules.inc: Adjust the unionfs modules cflags.
03:28.27CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3009.1.2 10openembedded/conf/machine/tosa.conf: Remove the unnecessary 'chkhinge' from bootstrap on tosa.
03:28.30CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3009.1.1 10openembedded/packages/unionfs/ (4 files): Adjust the unionfs build to add -DNODEBUG, which cuts the kernel module size in half.
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06:27.35bluelightninghello
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08:16.17gremlin[it]hi to all
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08:16.33gremlin[it]someone is asleep ?
08:17.24gremlin[it]delio ?
08:17.49Deliohello
08:18.18gremlin[it]sorry o thought u are a my italian friend now in NZ :)
08:18.29gremlin[it]Delio is a non-common name in italy :)
08:18.56gremlin[it]do u have some experience with oe ?
08:19.05gremlin[it]i'm in toruble :( ...
08:19.09gremlin[it]trouble
08:19.26Delioi' just bought a zaurus recently
08:19.30Delioi'm a beginner :)
08:19.56gremlin[it]which one ? SLC3000 ?
08:20.01Deliosl6000
08:25.29kergothgremlin[it]: if you have a question, ask it.
08:27.16gremlin[it]1) did someone are able to use uclibc + kernel-2.6 ?
08:28.13gremlin[it]2) just trying to do 'bitbake nano' for familiar distro ... fail building glibc
08:28.29gremlin[it]checking for suffix of object files... configure: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile
08:28.31gremlin[it]| See `config.log' for more details.
08:28.31gremlin[it]| FATAL: oe_runconf failed
08:28.31gremlin[it]NOTE: Task failed:
08:28.31gremlin[it]ERROR: package glibc-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r14: task do_configure failed
08:28.31gremlin[it]ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting
08:28.32gremlin[it]ERROR: package glibc: build failed
08:28.33gremlin[it]ERROR: Build of nano failed
08:29.49kergoth1) yes.
08:30.07kergoth2) must be a configuration problem on your end.  if glibc doesnt build, its because the gcc-cross-initial that oe built isnt working.  it's known to work, which indicates there's something wrong with your setup
08:31.10gremlin[it]ok ... for i) ... where i can find the 'local.config' file ?
08:31.26gremlin[it]for 2) ... where i can get some more info/documentation ?
08:31.59kergothGettingStarted and local.conf.sample tell you everything you need to know
08:32.03gremlin[it]also for 2) ... a 'local.conf' file standard for familiar on pxa ?
08:32.10kergoth?
08:32.17kergothall you have to do is set your DISTRO and MACHINE correctly
08:32.27Pigi'morning
08:32.31kergothhey Pigi
08:32.35gremlin[it]kergoth ... don't work
08:33.33gremlin[it]MACHINE = "ipaq-pxa-2.6"
08:33.50gremlin[it]DISTRO = "familiar"
08:33.58gremlin[it]TARGET_ARCH = "arm"
08:34.01gremlin[it]TARGET_OS = "linux"
08:34.03Pigihey kergoth. My nightly opie-image build stopped on openswan. How can I remove it from the build ?
08:34.38kergothPigi: openswan is a dependency of task-bootstrap. you'd have to remove it from there
08:34.44Pigithx
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09:45.47Pigican't really find openswan reference in openembedded/meta, apart for a nylon-feed.bb. Is that the right place ?
09:46.49kergothyes.
09:47.37PigiMaybe a clean recompile could help.
09:48.01Pigiwhat's shrugs ?
09:48.19kergothshrug? its a gesture.
09:48.26kergothraising and lowering of the shoulders
09:48.36Pigiah, thx :)
09:48.37kergothgenerally indicates that the person doesnt know
09:48.38kergothnp
09:49.17Pigisometimes my english doesn't help me :)
09:49.36kergoth~dict shrug
09:50.01Pigithx ibot
09:50.06Pigieheheh
09:50.20Pigi~lart Pigi english
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11:20.37Pigibbl
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11:47.10RPzap_: There's a bug just come into linux-fedev-devel I think you should look at. A prompt patch may keep them happy...
11:47.33zap_regarding my code?
11:48.03RPYes. A dependency problem by the look of it
11:48.20RPzap_: I've mailed it to you
11:48.47zap_I'll look at it
11:49.20RPzap_: I think its just needs a dependency on FB adding...
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12:30.40reenoo_afternoon
12:32.51pb_hi reenoo_
12:33.09reenoo_hey pb_
12:35.38pb_reenoo_: I built a sablevm package, with the intention of uploading it, but the .ipk is suspiciously small.  It only contains:
12:35.39pb_-rwxr-xr-x root/root     14252 2005-01-15 18:18:24 ./usr/bin/sablevm
12:35.39pb_-rwxr-xr-x root/root      6621 2005-01-15 18:18:24 ./usr/bin/java-sablevm
12:35.48pb_which looks a bit dubious.
12:36.11reenoo_there should be a libsablevm package as well
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12:36.28pb_ah, yes, so there is
12:36.43pb_okay, I'll put those into the unstable feed then
12:36.57reenoo_cool
12:37.59pb_done
12:42.39zeckehey
12:43.04pb_yo zecke
12:43.36reenoo_moin zecke
12:49.53reenoo_it's just a bit unfortunate that the sablevm people still haven't fixed their JNI code and don't seem interested in doing so in the near future either.
12:56.04reenoo_I guess I could package jamvm and gnu classpath and ignore that though >:)
12:59.06reenoo_zecke: any progress with you kaffe .bb?
12:59.15reenoo_s/you/your/
12:59.39reenoo_~lart desktop keyboards
13:06.30zeckereenoo_: no, I lacked the time
13:06.48gintssomeone knows why it could be temp/run.do_configure.17120: line 227: oe_runconf: command not found
13:07.11zeckegints: which package?
13:07.20reenoo_zecke: yah, same here
13:07.34gintsI try to make myself libmnetutil-0.2.2-r0
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13:07.42gremlin[it]hi to all again ...
13:07.57zeckereenoo_: I was busy writing a stack based parser (Context Free Grammar parser) without using Jlex...
13:08.13gintsI made one and it works... libmutil
13:08.30gintsBut same like libmnetutil fails
13:08.46zeckegints: which 'class' do you inherit?
13:09.23gintsautotool
13:10.25zeckegints: do you've a oe_runconf in your file
13:10.35gintsyep.
13:10.50gintsdo_configure() {
13:10.50gints<PROTECTED>
13:10.50gints<PROTECTED>
13:10.50gints}
13:11.11zeckeah that might not work, bash and methods are limited
13:11.24zeckemake do_configure_prepend() { gnu-config... }
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13:12.35gintsrunconf not found..
13:14.11luotherhi, i'm trying to compile familiar with bitbake, but it fails because savannah.gnu.org does not respond to my cvs over ssh session, it seems to be needed for gnu-config-native
13:15.11CIA-803reenoo 07 * r1.2997.1.1 10openembedded/packages/sablevm/ (3 files in 2 dirs): sablevm(-classpath): update to 1.1.8
13:21.48gintszecke: I tryed remove do_configure{} from bb and it passed.. but stopped on staging..
13:22.30gints~pastebin
13:22.32iboti heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca
13:24.39gintszecke: http://pastebin.ca/4312
13:28.42zeckegints: inherit autotool vs inherit autotools
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13:29.17gintsshit..
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13:30.30gintszecke: many thks..
13:34.04gremlin[it]mhhh i'm looking for some local.config setup for Xscale PXA with kernel2.6 and uclib ... someone can give me some hints ?
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13:42.47florian_kchi all
13:43.06reenoo_hey florian_kc
13:46.36gremlin[it]mhhh i'm trying to setup OE Xscale PXA with kernel2.6 and uclib ... someone can give me some hints ?
13:48.42CIA-803reenoo 07 * r1.3022 10openembedded/packages/classpath/classpath_0.13.bb: Add GNU Classpath
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14:20.07CIA-803reenoo 07 * r1.3024 10openembedded/packages/jamvm/jamvm_1.2.3.bb: Add JamVM - a compact Java Virtual Machine which conforms to the JVM specification version 2.
14:20.11CIA-803reenoo 07 * r1.3023 10openembedded/packages/classpath/classpath_0.13.bb: classpath: clean up the meta-data ordering
14:21.33CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3013.1.1 10openembedded/packages/pango/pango_1.8.0.bb: turn down optimization a bit for pango on arm, to work around suspected compiler bug
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15:04.17chouimatmorningf
15:07.10reenoo_hey chouimat
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15:09.44CIA-803mickeyl 07 * r1.3027 10openembedded/conf/machine/openzaurus-pxa-2.6.conf: openzaurus-pxa-2.6.conf: +udev +sysfsutils -chkhinge
15:09.46CIA-803mickeyl 07 * r1.3026 10openembedded/classes/kernel.bbclass: kernel.bbclass: compile genksyms a bit later in the process
15:09.47mickeylmorning
15:10.17reenoo_moin mickeyl
15:11.35florian_kchi mickeyl
15:12.55RPmorning mickeyl
15:24.03RPI'm updating openzaurus-2.6 to use 2.6.11-rc1-bk4 as we've a load of drivers that appear in that...
15:25.04mickeylok, cool
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15:27.49mickeyli'll be in switzerland next week
15:27.54mickeylbtw.
15:28.05mickeylis it me or is it possible that the display is flickering a bit w/ 2.6 ?
15:28.08mickeyli.e. more than on 2.4
15:28.14mickeyl(could be imagination as well...)
15:28.19CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3025.1.1 10openembedded/packages/pcmcia-cs/ (pcmcia-cs-3.2.8/ide.opts pcmcia-cs_3.2.8.bb): apply pcmcia-cs patch from Florian Boor to disable bogus /etc/fstab additions for ide devices
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15:28.58RPmickel: mickeyl: it does. Try setting it to fastclk 100
15:29.21mickeylah, ok
15:29.27RPIts due to the fact we rotate the framebuffer rather that access it sideways...
15:29.40mickeylwhich is great, btw.
15:29.48mickeylotherwise I wouldn't have had as much fun with elpp
15:29.49mickeyl:)
15:30.06RP:)
15:30.23mickeylwhen i'm back i'll try to get the keyboard working under opie
15:30.54RPOk. It should be straightfoward enough. I believe zecke had a patch for qte that made it use the kernel keymap?
15:31.05RPsomewhere in hh.org?
15:31.22mickeylkergoth started with that patch 2 years ago
15:31.26mickeylzecke did some work on it recently
15:31.29mickeylbut it's not finished
15:31.39florian_kchi Pigi
15:31.44pb_crumbs.  must be one monster patch.
15:31.54mickeylit's ugly, indeed
15:31.55RPNow might be the time to finish it... :-/
15:32.04mickeylbecause we're dealing with three different types of keycodes
15:32.16RP?!
15:32.24RPWell, the kernel is all sane now...
15:32.29mickeylyeah
15:32.45RPI binned the sharp keyhandling code as it was mad...
15:33.38RPmickeyl: btw, you remember referring me to a thread on the oe/oz forum about the 2.6 kernel - that person is meeting with the sharp people next Friday
15:34.00kergothmorning
15:34.09RPI've been talking to them and they'll see what they can get us in the way of contacts/info...
15:34.11reenoo_morning kergoth
15:34.13RPmorning kergoth
15:34.47zeckemickeyl: no :(
15:35.05pb_hey kergoth
15:36.16RPGoodness knows what Sharp will make of my C7xx support in the mainline kernel...
15:37.52florian_kcDo we have a current problem with ipkg or familiar unstable feed? We have two iPaqs which suffer from lost files after upgrading.
15:38.28mickeylRP: i think they wont pick it up
15:38.35pb_Not that I'm aware of.  Which files are missing?
15:38.42mickeylzecke: what no?
15:39.14mickeylRP: they'll probably already pushed their same stuff up to make it someway compile. I'll be glad to be in error here
15:40.11RPmickeyl: They might not realise. They'll get a shock when they try to move their stuff up to > 2.6.10 though :)
15:40.17mickeylindeed
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15:41.06scHello all !
15:41.18mickeylcheers uncle
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15:42.16florianhrm...
15:42.27uvTrying to do a OZ build for collie : Kernel-build complains "openembedded/packages/linux/openzaurus-pxa-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix20031107/defconfig-collie". Any idea ?
15:42.52PigiIf I do wont to recompile a bb, but I don't wont to d/l it ( I have made a little modification, but not yet a patch ) how can I do ?
15:43.01uvThe above mentioned file is not existing!
15:43.13mickeyluv: which is right, because this is the wrong kernel for collie.
15:43.20mickeyluv: it should build openzaurus-sa
15:43.28mickeyluv: which is listed in collie.conf
15:43.36mickeylsee PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel
15:47.02reenoo_crap
15:47.08reenoo_jamvm segfaults :/
15:47.09mickeyl?
15:47.13uvmickeyl : oops, was struggling about a unresponsive "ftp.arm.linux.org.uk". Ping does not come back with a timeout. Did some manual tries there and obviously chossed the wrong kernel.
15:47.13mickeyloh
15:47.16mickeylwell, it's java :D
15:47.34mickeyluv: ah, that explains it.
15:47.45reenoo_mickeyl: actually it's C
15:47.54mickeylhehe
15:48.00uvmickeyl: thanks :-)
15:48.11mickeylyes, but C code trying to support java. i could imagine your CPU resisting a bit
15:48.18zeckemickeyl: no one recently worked on the keymap Qt patch
15:48.29CIA-803reenoo 07 * r1.3025.2.1 10openembedded/packages/jamvm/jamvm_1.2.3.bb: jamvm: tell jamvm where to find the classpath .zip
15:48.33mickeylzecke: oh. then i got that wrong. i thought you already did some bit
15:48.33mickeyls
15:48.52reenoo_mickeyl: ?
15:49.05kergoth"ftp.arm.linux.org.uk is presently unreachable - the machine appears to
15:49.05kergothhave been powered off for reasons unknown by persons unknown.
15:49.06kergoth"
15:49.07kergothheh
15:49.09zeckemickeyl: hehe, yes I've worked a bit on it. I created a python script to generate a key mapping
15:49.17mickeylreenoo_: nm ;)
15:49.25CIA-803RP 07 * r1.3029 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Merge
15:49.27CIA-803RP 07 * r1.3016.1.1 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): openzaurus-2.6: upgrade to 2.6.11-rc1-bk4 and remove patches now upstream. Fix release-string so it applies.
15:49.28mickeylzecke: ah, that's what i thought
15:51.29reenoo_pb_: any idea how to fix this btw? "java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/modules/libgtkstylus.so: undefined symbol: gdk_event_handler_set"
15:51.35CIA-803mickeyl 07 * r1.3027.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): update vpnc to 0.3.2
15:51.49reenoo_pb_: appears to be the same issue as with pygtk
15:52.04pb_reenoo_: it sounds like libgtkstylus.so is badly linked.
15:52.07pb_I'll investigate.
15:52.16reenoo_pb_: thanks
15:53.10mickeylPRELOAD to workarond, a fix would be better
15:53.28mickeylargh
15:53.34mickeyl~lart mickeyl
15:53.45mickeyli hate when i include errornous stuff in changesets
15:59.10CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3028.2.1 10openembedded/packages/libgtkstylus/ (libgtkstylus_0.3.bb files/makefile.patch): fix LIBS/LDADD mix-up in libgtkstylus makefile
15:59.12pb_reenoo_: that should take care of the gdk_event_handler_set problem
15:59.59reenoo_pb_: excellent
16:02.41reenoo_gdbserver rather
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16:07.44CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3033 10openembedded/packages/gpsd/gpsd_2.6.bb: update gpsd to 2.6, courtesy Robert E. Anderson
16:12.12mickeylhmm
16:12.20mickeyljust what i was working on atm.
16:12.25mickeyli did have a couple of changes, too
16:13.16pb_ah, whoops
16:13.20mickeylheh nm
16:13.34mickeylbetter two are doing it than the noone :)
16:13.39mickeyls/the/
16:13.40pb_heh, true enough
16:15.40CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3034 10openembedded/packages/ipaq-usbnet-support/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add usbnet suspend/resume helper scripts, courtesy Paul Eggleton
16:21.48reenoo_~lart user defined signals
16:22.15chouimathehe
16:25.19reenoo_arrgh
16:25.44reenoo_doesn't segfault when compiled with debugging enabled
16:26.01CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3036 10openembedded/packages/meta/task-bootstrap.bb: bump PR on task-bootstrap
16:26.03CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3035 10openembedded/conf/machine/ipaq-common.conf: add ipaq-usb-support to BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_{DEPENDS,RRECOMMENDS}
16:27.12CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3037 10openembedded/packages/ipaq-usbnet-support/ipaq-usbnet-support_1.0.bb: fix perms on usbnet suspend/resume scripts
16:29.53CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3036 10openembedded/packages/libxrandr/libxrandr_cvs.bb: Unbork of staging in the libxrandr cvs build.
16:29.53CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3020.1.1 10openembedded/packages/libxrandr/ (files/autofoo.patch libxrandr_cvs.bb libxrandr_1.0.2.bb): Apply patch to the libxrandr configure script to make it buildable with automake 1.9 and higher.
16:30.10CIA-803RP 07 * r1.3034.1.4 10openembedded/packages/linux/openzaurus_2.6.11-rc1.bb: openzaurus-2.6: update power driver. Cleanups + now supports C700.
16:34.59pb_kergoth: if you write a changelog entry for that patch, I'll check it in to the libxrandr CVS tree.
16:35.41pb_heh
16:36.01PigiI think he don't want to write the changelog ;)
16:36.11pb_so it seems, yeah
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16:36.42mickeylcan anyone hook me up with gpsd-2.6.tar.gz
16:36.45mickeylberlios is dead from here
16:37.39kergothgrr, damn flaky net connection
16:38.04mickeylnm, got it from a mirror
16:38.20pb_kergoth: if you write a changelog entry for that patch, I'll check it in to the libxrandr CVS tree.
16:38.39kergothpb_: k
16:38.55kergothits just a matter of moving AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR above AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
16:39.04kergoth1.9.x is awfully picky
16:39.21pb_right
16:40.12mickeylpb: did you test gpsd before commiting? :D
16:40.28pb_mickeyl: no, I just checked in the file that the guy sent to the list.
16:40.30mickeylhehe
16:40.35mickeyldon't trust strangers
16:40.45mickeylinstall -o 0 -g 0
16:40.47mickeyltsss
16:41.10pb_ah
16:41.20mickeyland more quirks
16:41.29mickeyli'll respond to the mail with some constructive comments
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16:41.39pb_ok, cool
16:43.42CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3037.1.1 10openembedded/packages/damageext/ (files/autofoo.patch damageext_cvs.bb damageext_1.0.bb): Apply patch to the damageext configure script to make it buildable with automake 1.9 and higher.
16:48.20CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3040 10openembedded/packages/ (libxrandr/files/autofoo.patch damageext/files/autofoo.patch): Add ChangeLog entries to the libxrandr and damageext automake 1.9.x patches.
16:48.43pb_very good
16:53.14CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3041 10openembedded/packages/gtk2-theme-angelistic/ (2 files in 2 dirs): break out some GPE customisations from Angelistic theme into global /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
16:53.47florianWhat is reponsible for creating mountpoints for cf and mmc cards in oeß
16:54.00pb_base-files, I think
16:54.17Pigipb_, the libc6 name has changed in glibc actually?
16:54.28pb_Pigi: no
16:54.46CoreDump|homeflorian: /etc/sdcontrol and /etc/pcmcia/ide IIRC
16:54.50florianpb_: They are not dynamicaly generated like in ole familiar images?
16:55.20pb_florian: not that I know of, but I haven't investigated in any depth.  base-files does contain:
16:55.25pb_drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2005-01-02 22:50:42 ./media/card/
16:55.25pb_drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2005-01-02 22:50:42 ./media/cf/
16:55.25pb_drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2005-01-02 22:50:42 ./media/net/
16:55.25pb_drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2005-01-02 22:50:42 ./media/ram/
16:55.40pb_but it's entirely possible that these are unused.
16:55.52CIA-803mickeyl 07 * r1.3033.1.2 10openembedded/ (10 files in 2 dirs): make gpsd-2.6 work, sanitize, and call older gpsd
16:55.54CIA-803mickeyl 07 * r1.3033.1.1 10openembedded/packages/python/ (python-pylinda_0.4.bb python-pylinda/honor-datadir.patch): update pylinda to 0.4
16:56.29Pigimaybe the package name ? I have build an opie-image, and I have a glibc_2.3.2.*.ipk  and no libc6.*.ipk
16:56.44pb_sounds like you forgot to set an appropriate DISTRO
16:57.47Pigisounds like I have to clear all the cache, and whatever, and rebuild again . I have DISTRO  set on "familiar"
16:58.03pb_ah.  "familiar" should be fine.
16:58.09pb_I wonder what has gone wrong, then.
16:58.54PigiI would like to rebuild everithing. Could it a good thing to to a "bitbake -cclean *" ?
16:59.05Pigis/to to/to do/
16:59.15pb_If you want to rebuild everything, "rm -rf tmp" is the quickest way.
16:59.26Pigigood.
16:59.41PigiA long night for my little notebook.
17:00.07pb_heh
17:02.05Pigibtw, "rm -rf tmp && bk pull&& bk -r co -q && bitbake opie-image" is the way, right ?
17:02.12pb_yeah
17:02.33CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3040.2.1 10openembedded/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add versions of the recent damageext and libxrandr patches that apply to the release, since the recent ChangeLog modifications made them fail to apply to those versions.
17:02.44Pigiwow.
17:04.03pb_kergoth: fwiw, the way we usually avoid that problem is to paste the changelog entry directly into the patch file as a comment, rather than patching the ChangeLog itself.
17:04.32kergothah, cool
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17:11.41CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3044 10openembedded/packages/xfont/ (xfont_1.4.2.bb files/autofoo.patch): Add patch to xfont to build with automake 1.9.x.
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17:30.33CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3045 10openembedded/packages/genext2fs/ (4 files): Add cvs build of genext2fs from http://sf.net/projects/genext2fs/.
17:34.22pb_kergoth: I applied your patches to damageext and libxrandr.  cworth already fixed xfont, back on 2004-11-23.
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17:35.52pb_ah, heh
17:35.54kergothcool, thanks
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17:36.26kergothSyntaxError: invalid syntax
17:36.27kergothheh
17:38.27CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3046 10openembedded/packages/gpe-plucker/ (gpe-plucker_0.2.bb gpe-plucker/fix_makefiles.patch): update gpe-plucker to 0.2
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17:41.33uvbuilding an OZ opie-image for collie. "http://treke.net/oe/source/mtd-snapshot-20041222.tar.bz2" of package "mtd-utils-native-20041222-r0" is not available. Any other host ?
17:41.45kergothtreke.net is a _mirror_
17:41.50kergothnot the real upstream
17:42.24uvkergoth : anyway, the package want to load from there.
17:42.28kergoth?
17:42.37kergothyes, because it couldnt get it from upstream.
17:42.41kergothit not being on treke.net isnt the problem.
17:42.48CIA-803RP 07 * r1.3047 10openembedded/packages/linux/openzaurus_2.6.11-rc1.bb: openzaurus-2.6: split out and reorder patches for upstream submission
17:43.04kergothftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/people/dwmw2/mtd/cvs/mtd-snapshot-${PV}.tar.bz2 <-is the real upstream
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17:45.00kergothjeeze the bitbake parser has some ugly ass python code
17:45.22uvkergoth: Which mtd-snapshot is suggested ? And who should be informed about the wrong bb file ?
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17:45.34kergoththe .bb isnt wrong. the site is down
17:47.36uvkergoth: I can access the site, the bb is named "mtd-utils-native_20041222.bb". The corresponding package is not there.
17:47.54kergothso what snapshots exist then?
17:48.14kergothif they removed the snapshot, that isnt something within our control. just update the .bb's to a more recent snapshot
17:48.47uvkergoth: up to 20050115 (2002 are lots 2003 and 2004 missing completely)
17:48.53kergothi cant get to the site at all at the moment. let me know what snaps there are
17:48.56kergothk, i'll update it
17:49.33kergoththanks for the info
17:50.44uvkergoth: 20050115 works for me.
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18:00.22pb_kergoth: do you know what's going on with that updater-rc.d thing?
18:00.37pb_it just struck my xfont build for some weird reason
18:01.05pb_(in do_fetch this time)
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18:01.54kergothpb_: not offhand.  it appears that the bbclass filename is ending up in functions.. trying to remember where thats done and why.  heh
18:02.42pb_kergoth: the odd thing is that (a) there is no "updater-rc.d" class, and (b) even if there was, the package that's having the problem doesn't inherit it.
18:03.18pb_afaict, the only mention of updater-rc.d is in gpsd_2.6.bb, but I don't understand how this is destroying other packages.
18:06.37kergothweird
18:06.48pb_extremely
18:06.55kergothah, it appears to be a def'd function.
18:06.55zeckeWow NX rocks
18:06.59kergothglobal python namespace, remember?
18:07.05kergoththatd explain why it affects everything
18:07.27kergothgah, damn internet connection
18:07.31kergothall my ssh sessions are toast again
18:07.37pb_doh
18:07.41pb_what is it with your internet?
18:07.59kergothi dunno.  could be the new wrt54 as well, just rebooted it on the off chance its flaky
18:08.05kergothreally ought to replace that stock firmware
18:08.16pb_heh
18:08.30RPHmmm. A dilema. Who do I submit corgi backlight to...
18:09.24RPThe code is going into drivers/video/backlight but its arm code...
18:09.44pb_Why is it arm code?
18:10.32RPWell, it messes with arm devices (scoop, ssp)...
18:10.40uvkergoth: ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-bootstrap:
18:10.40uv<PROTECTED>
18:10.50uvkergoth: Oops
18:11.30uvkergoth: Have the above error during opie-image build. Can makedevs manual by bitbake -b. Any ideas ?
18:11.37pb_Send it to the video people, and let them get review from Russell if they want.
18:12.19RPpb_: with or without the part where it modifies corgi.c in arch/arm/mach-pxa?
18:12.21kergothuv: go ahead and rerun the image build after building makedevs manually. i hit that one too, not sure whats up with it
18:12.26RP(to define the device)
18:12.46kergothRP: why not send the driver to the fbdev folks and the device to russell?
18:13.19RPkergoth: I wondered about that. It got messy when I did that with w100fb due to header files...
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18:13.30RPThere are no header files to worry about this time though
18:13.46uvkergoth: Can I do that with bitbake -b ? I am not able to find an appropriate package.
18:13.50kergothuv: ?
18:13.53kergothuv: bitbake makedevs
18:14.01kergothuv: you dont need -b.
18:14.09kergothlet bitbake find the appropriate package itself
18:14.38uvkergoth: OK, thatl take some time ...
18:15.05kergothand how are you unable to find an appropriate package?
18:15.19kergothis openembedded/packages/makedevs/makedevs_1.0.0.bb not obvious enough?
18:15.22kergothheh
18:17.46uvkergoth: Sure, found that before and did a -b. But the opie-image did not do it aftrewards. Try it again right now.
18:18.31pb_mickeyl: any idea what's going on here?
18:18.32pb_Package orinoco-modules-cs wants to install file /etc/pcmcia/spectrum.conf
18:18.32pb_<PROTECTED>
18:18.35uvkergoth: What are the -native packages ment to be used for ? I think I did that makedevs before ;-(
18:20.49uvkergoth: I am nearly there. mkfs.jffs2 is missing. Do I have to install that, or can I find it in the packages somewhere ?
18:23.57reenoo_uv: what exactly are you doing there? bitbk
18:23.59reenoo_err
18:24.15mickeylpb_: i must goofed up when i split the packages recently
18:24.18mickeylpb_: I'll take a look
18:24.43reenoo_uv: bitbake (opie|gpe)-image should take care of all dependencies automatically
18:25.53uvreenoo_: but doesnt makedevs. Is that worth a bugzilla entry ?
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18:26.17pb_mickey|dinner: thanks
18:26.32uvkergoth: apt-get install mtd-tools. Thats it. I have my first image ;D
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18:31.19uvkergoth: Here some more things, that came up. "qte-20050103" is not any more existing, qte-20050109 does it, but not 20050115. libqpe-opie : nomax.patch is not successfull. Where to mention that ?
18:38.22uvUpdated the wiki RequiredSoftware page (python-dev package and mtd-tools).
18:38.42pb_mtd-tools isn't a piece of RequiredSoftware.
18:39.28uvpb_: In Debian Sarge it was missing. opie-image did not build without mkfs.jffs2
18:39.42pb_uv: then that's a bug in oe, and should be fixed.
18:39.49pb_Nobody else has reported that problem.
18:40.45uvpb_: Possibly, because I have a fresh installed Debian here. On my old Suse it would not have been occured, because I did mkfs.jffs2 there before for sure.
18:41.41uvpb_: So what do you suggest ? Edit the Wiki again and remove the mtd-tools hint ?
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18:43.34uvAll : Is there a bugzilla or equal for OpenEmbedded somewhere ?
18:44.43pb_uv: yes
18:45.01uvpb_: where ? handhelds.org ?
18:45.07pb_check the topic
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18:55.42kergothuv: oe should be building itself an mtd-utils-native for the image..
18:57.02uvJust added some tickets to "http://bugs.openembedded.org".
18:57.34uvWas a hard weekend, have earned one or two or even three "Franziskaner Hefe" now ;-)
19:02.57uvBy
19:14.22CIA-803kergoth 07 * r1.3045.1.1 10openembedded/packages/initscripts/initscripts_1.0.bb: Fix the initscripts DEPENDS for 'openzaurus' distro, which is why image builds have been failing due to missing 'makedevs'.
19:17.43pb_heh
19:19.30mickeylpb_: looks ok to me. if you tried to upgrade a previous version, then it would explain that
19:20.12pb_yes, I was upgrading from an older version
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19:20.44mickeylah right
19:20.52mickeylthe .conf files were in orinoco-modules
19:20.56mickeylbut are now in orinoco-modules-cs
19:21.00pb_ah, right
19:21.14pb_sounds like orinoco-modules-cs is missing "Replaces: orinoco-modules"
19:21.31mickeylhmm will that work?
19:21.35mickeylorinoco-modules is still needed
19:21.41mickeylbecause it contains the common low level modules
19:21.55pb_that's ok.  "Replaces:" on its own is just a license to overwrite files that belong to another package.
19:22.02mickeylah ok, will add that then
19:22.25pb_if the old package is completely obsoleted by the new one, you'd have Replaces:, Provides:, and Conflicts:.
19:22.56mickeyli'm still at a loss as what to do with the newer orinoco stuff, btw.
19:23.13kergothwhats up with it?
19:23.21mickeylit doesn't work on arm
19:23.27mickeylspits out lots of BAP errors
19:23.28pb_ah.  did you try adding a check for the alignment of that buffer?
19:23.48mickeylnot yet. did you remember what and where to add that?
19:23.56mickeyli'd test it now then
19:24.04pb_not offhand, but I can figure it out again easily enough
19:24.55mickeylkergoth: it got worse gradual. 0.13e works very good, 0.15rc1 lost many packets, 0.15rc2 no longer registers the netdev :/
19:24.57mickeylarm only though.
19:25.00kergothouch
19:25.04mickeylx86 it works fine my cards
19:25.28mickeyl+on +with
19:25.55pb_mickeyl: find the place in orinoco.c where it does:
19:25.58pb_<PROTECTED>
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19:25.58pb_<PROTECTED>
19:26.05pb_(about line 950)
19:26.14pb_then, just before that, add:
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19:42.16mickeylRP: do you know offhand how large the kernel partition is on our clamshells?
19:42.36florianbbl
19:42.46RPmickeyl: I can find out...
19:43.04mickeylRP: nm, i look into the updater.sh
19:43.33mickeyli was just thinking if we maybe could compile an initrd into the kernel for special purposes or if it will be too largen there
19:43.38mickeyllarge then, even
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19:44.20kergothinitrds generally arent a part of the kernel image, unless you're using a bootpImage
19:44.39mickeyli know, that's what i meant w/ special purpose :)
19:44.39RPmickeyl: 1264kb
19:44.43mickeylRP: thanks
19:45.04kergothon the other hand, with 2.6, initramfs _is_ a part of the kernel image
19:45.10mickeylyeah
19:45.26mickeylthat could be nice for some things
19:45.32mickeylthis is new in 2.6 right?
19:45.45kergothyes, initramfs is 2.6 only
19:46.39RPpb_: How much trouble would it be for you to sort out that exec_func() problem we discussed?
19:47.04pb_RP: remind me which one that was, again?
19:47.13RPpb_: The overrides problem
19:47.29pb_oh, right.  probably not too much.  let me have a look.
19:48.40RPIf that's done, I might work out which packages break under "make -j x" and mark them...
19:49.34RPmickeyl: We're actually getting quite close to the 1264kb limit :-/. 2.6 is currently at 1182kb!
19:49.41kergothouch
19:49.44RPI haven't made any effort to reduce size though...
19:50.03mickeylRP: mine is even larger thanks to elpp :)
19:50.26mickeylRP: we can introduce partition hacks like the pdaxrom crew heh
19:50.32mickeyl(actually just kidding)
19:50.44kergothresizing the partitions actually isnt a bad idea, especially now that we have unionfs
19:50.51kergothwe can easily support a small core read only partition now
19:51.03mickeyleven with squashfs?
19:51.08RPkergoth: More hassle than its worth IMO...
19:51.17kergothRP: to _you_ and to me, yes.
19:51.20kergothnot to most users
19:51.28kergothread only rootfs has been requested on countless occasions
19:51.34mickeylthat's right
19:51.38kergoththey like the safety of not being able to fuck it up
19:51.39RPwhy?
19:51.44RPah...
19:51.52RPmad...
19:52.10RPThere's an easier way. Don't turn the device on... :)
19:52.13mickeylhehe
19:52.21kergothits perfectly reasonable.  with a read only rootfs, we could fall back to some sort of recovery environment if the overlay rootfs fails, what have you
19:52.44mickeylthat sounds not too bad
19:53.51mickeylany idea about the performance penality when using unionfs ?
19:53.52kergothmickeyl: re: even with squashfs, filesystem doesnt matter.
19:54.08kergothheh, considering the performance hit of operating on flash, i doubt itd be  noticable.
19:54.14mickeylcool
19:54.19mickeyli need to play with that one of these days
19:54.37kergothwe need to throw together some better scripts
19:54.48kergothwrite an opie union manipulation app, with a graphical display of the layers for the user
19:54.51kergothheh
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20:00.34pb_RP: ah, drat, the OVERRIDES implementation I was thinking of will not work after all.
20:00.53pb_setting OVERRIDES itself is fine, but you can't call update_data() at that point, and I don't think anything else does that either.
20:01.21RPpb_: :-(
20:01.30RPBack to square one then? :-/
20:02.12pb_It seems.
20:02.52RPThere must be some way to solve the problem...
20:03.02pb_Another approach might be to explicitly outlaw the idea of a function making changes to the global metadata.  I think we could work around the package_ipk thing by making a strategic extra call to reread_subpackage_metadata().
20:04.12RPYou know the system a lot better than I do so I can only be guided by you...
20:04.57RPMy understanding of it is improving all the time but there seem to be plenty of hidden gotchas with it...
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20:12.35pb_actually, deferring the read_subpackage_metadata() until package_ipk runs would also help to avoid these occasional problems we have with duplicated postinsts.
20:13.04RPadded bonus :)
20:13.04pb_kergoth, can you think of any reason why it needs to be done immediately after parsing?
20:16.28RPpb_: In the kernel, I want to call an external function, if and only if the module that provides that function is loaded. Can you do that?
20:17.28RPThe inter_module functions are depeciated and replaced by symbol_get which may do what I want...
20:17.47RPbut people don't seem to like it...
20:18.09pb_dunno.  symbol_get() does sound like the right sort of thing, but I've never used it.
20:21.55kergothpb_: cant think of a reason off the top of my head
20:22.40pb_ok
20:22.46pb_I just started a build, so we'll see what happens
20:22.53kergothcool
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20:45.13RPpb_: It looks like they want to remove symbol_get from the kernel :-/
20:48.01pb_Ah.
20:49.22RPI've just sent a mail to LKML asking what the alternative is and highlighting a situation where symbol_get is useful...
20:49.38RPI've probably missed something very obvious :-/
20:58.50kergothheh, you could always have a function pointer in the data for the driver or device, then have your other driver search the bus for it, verify that the driver is bound to the device, then call the function via the function pointer
20:58.55kergothbut roundabout though
20:59.01kergother, s/but/bit/
21:01.16RPkergoth: It also means global data structures which is the big problem with that approach...
21:01.36kergothhm?
21:02.05kergoththey arent global, just make the structure a part of the data for the struct device driver.  use a spinlock to guard access to it
21:02.41RPand where do you find the structure that's part of the struct device ?
21:02.50kergothwhat do you mean?
21:03.08kergoththere are find functions. you can search the drivers and devices on a given bus to find the one you need
21:03.33RPThat data structure has to be defined somewhere meaning global include files...
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21:04.30kergothor the header is included by the other driver using a ../blah/blah path. yep.  but you'd have to have declarations for the functions you'd be calling too
21:04.50kergothanyway, just throwing ideas out. it could be done that way, just not clean
21:05.12RPI know :)
21:05.46RPfunctions are clean and simple. Its a danerous interface as it could be used very badly though so I can see their point...
21:19.01mickeylpb_: ok, just loaded orinoco w/ that BUG() stuff
21:19.02mickeylstill
21:19.03mickeyleth0: Error -5 writing packet to BAP
21:19.03mickeylhermes @ IO 0xc4860000: BAP0 offset error: reg=0x0 id=0x177 offset=0x44
21:19.08mickeylbut no other messages
21:19.59mickeyltherefore lots of those heh
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21:22.49mickeylhmm the difference to 0.13e is:
21:22.59mickeyl- err = hermes_bap_pwrite(hw, USER_BAP, p, ALIGN(data_len, 2),
21:22.59mickeyl<PROTECTED>
21:23.06mickeyl+  err = hermes_bap_pwrite(hw, USER_BAP, p, RUP_EVEN(data_len), txfid, data_off);
21:23.14mickeyllet's see what RUP_EVEN does
21:23.26mickeylorinoco.c:#define RUP_EVEN(a) (((a) + 1) & (~1))
21:23.34mickeylin 0.13
21:23.37pb_okay
21:25.05mickeylconsidering #define ALIGN(x,a) (((x)+(a)-1)&~((a)-1)), it doesn't look like a difference or does it?
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21:26.06pb_no, looks pretty similar to me.
21:26.13pb_can you tell what 'error -5' indicates?
21:26.27mickeylnot offhand. i'll investigate
21:26.52pb_righto
21:27.46pb_kergoth: seems to be working fine with that tweak to the metadata handling.
21:27.53kergothcool
21:28.34pb_assuming the build completes successfully, I'll go ahead and check that in, then turn on the task-name-in-OVERRIDES thing that RP needs.
21:29.23mickeylah, Returns: < 0 on internal failure (errno)
21:30.50mickeyl<PROTECTED>
21:30.50mickeyl<PROTECTED>
21:31.33mickeyllet me compare that to 0.13e
21:31.50RPpb_: Sounds good.
21:32.24mickeylsame there
21:34.55RPmickeyl: sounds like the error is coming from somewhere higher up then...
21:35.20RPHave the code dump the data being passed to that function? Comapre with 0.13e?
21:35.43mickeyleinval isn't -5
21:35.50mickeylhmm where are those errors defined
21:36.19reenoo_hrm, ipkg needs a -fscking-do-it option
21:36.56mickeylaha, errno-base
21:37.03mickeyl#define EIO              5      /* I/O error */
21:37.06mickeylhmm
21:37.08mickeylhelpful :/
21:37.18mickeylso, the code that raises the error is:
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21:38.55mickeylif (reg != offset) {
21:39.01mickeylprintk(KERN_ERR "hermes @ %s0x%lx: BAP%d offset %s: "
21:39.01mickeyl<PROTECTED>
21:39.01mickeyl<PROTECTED>
21:39.01mickeyl<PROTECTED>
21:39.01mickeyl<PROTECTED>
21:39.07mickeylreturn -EIO;            /* error or wrong offset */
21:39.09mickeylhmm
21:41.24RPmickeyl: Did you not see something to KERN_ERR in that case?
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21:49.12RPmickeyl: btw - you asked about the power mode of the backlight and its seemingly strange numbering - It takes the FB_BLANK defines as values
21:50.04RPmickeyl: so you should really write FB_BLANK_UNBLANK and FB_BLANK_NORMAL to it...
21:50.23mickeylaha
21:50.23mickeylthat explains then
21:50.23mickeylwhat exactly does that __attribute__ ((packed)); do, btw.?
21:50.30RPOr whichever other vesa blanking mode you'd care to choose...
21:50.38mickeylyep
21:51.01RPpb_ understands them...
21:51.09zeckemickeyl: packs data structures
21:51.12RPIf that's been removed it could give you problems...
21:51.30zeckemickeyl: it should avoid the compiler padding structures
21:51.50RPand I'd expect you don't want the compiler padding structures in this case...
21:52.00zeckemickeyl: struct { int i; char foo; char doo; int j }; can have different sizes :)
21:52.52mickeylhmm i think thoroughly comparing 0.13e w/ 0.15rc2 is beyond my experience
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22:07.25RPmickely: Have you a diff between the two versions?
22:08.16RPMy personal approach might be to paste bits of .15rc2 into .13e until it breaks...
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22:11.31RPmickeyl: even. damn these fingers :)
22:14.48mickeylthe diff is not very helpful
22:14.55mickeylthey reordered almost everything
22:15.06mickeylbut i should check the cvs
22:15.12mickeylit's on savannah for quite a while
22:15.23mickeyland do a binary search for the breakpoint
22:15.54RPThat would help narrow it down...
22:16.34mickeyli'll give that a shot when i'm back
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22:19.28RPAhhrgg. No matter how much I do to the battery/power management code for corgi, it doesn't seem to get any easier to understand...
22:20.15Pigidid someone managed to compile openswan-2.2.0 cleanly  ( needed by opie-image ) ?
22:21.13PigiTo me always fail with: | /ext/ambient/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.3/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lgmp
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22:21.42Pigiand I have to tweak the Makefile to modify the -L path
22:22.06kergothbuilt fine for me a few hours ago
22:23.23Pigimaybe is because I have removed the /tmp/work/gcc tree ?
22:23.59Pigis/gcc/gcc*
22:24.57Pigibtw this was a full clean bitbake opie-image / after removing the whole tmp tree, to be sure that "the cache is refreshed "
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22:28.35ex_newbie|homefolks, quick question: is it possible to do a "bitbake -c clean" to several packages at once?
22:28.50kergothbitbake -c clean one two three four
22:29.01ex_newbie|homecool, thanks!
22:29.09kergothnext time consult --help
22:29.10kergothheh
22:29.51ex_newbie|homeok
22:31.55ex_newbie|homekergoth: yes, it says "which is a space seperated list of files to be executed..." I will read next time... :-)
22:32.09ex_newbie|homelets go building...
22:34.31mickeylg'night
22:34.34mickeylsee you in a week
22:35.36RP'night mickey|wons05. have a good trip :)
22:39.49mithrowons05?
22:53.52reenoo_conference on wireless on-demand network systems according to google
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23:15.38CIA-803pb 07 * r1.3046.1.1 10openembedded/classes/ (base.bbclass package_ipk.bbclass): call read_subpackage_metadata at the start of package_ipk, not from base.bbclass anonymous function
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23:16.15Piginite all. It' s sleeping time
23:16.57kergothpb_: heh, i think it was an anonymous function for the rare "i just ran bitbake with only package inherited, and now i'm running it with package_ipk inherited" case
23:17.10kergothor something like taht
23:17.16kergoth~lart kergoth's memory
23:18.22CIA-803philb * r109 10bitbake/lib/bb/build.py: add current task name to OVERRIDES during execution
23:18.33pb_RP: there it is.
23:18.48pb_kergoth: yeah
23:19.00RPpb_: TYVM :)
23:21.12RPWhat variable should I use for this? PARALLEL_MAKE?
23:21.57RPand do I have permission to unset that to bb's that fail with it set?
23:24.51pb_RP: you'll have to add an appropriate thing to EXTRA_OEMAKE (in bitbake.conf, but you can experiment with it in local.conf to start with).  PARALLEL_MAKE sounds like a fine name.
23:26.14RPpb_: Right. That sounds sensible...
23:28.17mithrohey pb_
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23:56.20RPpb_: This doesn't appear to be working :-/
23:56.41RPWould the fact that do_compile has an underscore in it cause problems?
23:56.52ex_newbie|Zzzznite folks

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