| 00:07.28 | Ken|JLime | err, i forgot. Which package do i have to rebuild in order for my Packages file to get updated? |
| 00:07.31 | Ken|JLime | task-bootstrap? |
| 00:09.49 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
| 00:17.01 | Ken|JLime | i would like the rootfs to get tar'ed |
| 00:18.10 | zecke | hmm good nite |
| 00:26.20 | RP | 'night zecke |
| 00:26.24 | CIA-8 | 03RP 07 * r1.3123.1.1 10openembedded/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.11.bb: openzaurus-2.6: Fix the mtd mapped PROM driver so it works and add definitions for tosa/spitz to it (patch commited to MTD CVS). |
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| 01:32.06 | _drak0_ | Ken|JLime: bitbake -c clean task-bootstrap; bitbake bootstrap-image |
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| 01:43.14 | Ken|JLime | _drak0_, thx |
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| 02:01.14 | kergoth | Ken|JLime: hm? i epxlained this yesterday. |
| 02:01.33 | kergoth | Ken|JLime: the Packages file is updated whenever an _image_ is built. it gets created only for the purposes of buliding an image. |
| 02:03.23 | Ken|JLime | I missed it in the log last night, sorry. Btw where do you want me to send new packages? |
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| 02:39.27 | emte | Ken|JLime, why would you send the package anywhere? |
| 02:39.41 | emte | you only use them for your personal feed or image |
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| 03:43.45 | gb2 | mark: 4:13:05 |
| 03:43.50 | gb2 | doh! |
| 04:24.35 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
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| 06:25.44 | kergoth | Ken|JLime: you mean new .bb files? send them to the mailing list. |
| 06:35.27 | emte | heya kergoth |
| 06:35.41 | emte | i dont suppose you play with automatons ... |
| 06:41.25 | bluelightning | hi guys |
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| 07:37.59 | greg72 | hi koen&kergoth |
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| 07:58.48 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 08:04.00 | bluelightning | hi florian_kc |
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| 08:31.25 | xiaoxiao | ... |
| 08:31.56 | RP | morning all |
| 08:32.09 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 08:32.14 | schurig | morning |
| 08:32.40 | xiaoxiao | 16:33 now |
| 08:33.04 | wrobbie | indeed |
| 08:33.04 | bluelightning | hi RP |
| 08:33.21 | bluelightning | hi xiaoxiao, CoreDump|home, schurig, wrobbie |
| 08:33.40 | xiaoxiao | hi |
| 08:33.45 | kergoth | i hate a document review today |
| 08:33.46 | kergoth | er |
| 08:33.46 | kergoth | have |
| 08:33.53 | kergoth | though i hate it too |
| 08:33.56 | CoreDump|home | xiaoxiao: in your timezone maybe ;) It's 09:34 here |
| 08:33.58 | wrobbie | :) |
| 08:33.58 | kergoth | and i havent yet written the doc we're reviewing. |
| 08:34.19 | xiaoxiao | hehe .kergoth |
| 08:34.41 | treke|home | kergoth: so you're not sleeping much tonight? :p |
| 08:35.05 | CoreDump|home | ouch |
| 08:35.11 | kergoth | "uh .. my laptop's hard drive .. uh .. was .. uh .. formatted by a virus.. yeah." |
| 08:35.26 | treke|home | bah |
| 08:35.34 | treke|home | this is what the excuse server is for |
| 08:35.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:35.48 | treke|home | "Vendor no longer supports the product " |
| 08:35.51 | kergoth | on another note, Eurotrip is funny as hell |
| 08:36.32 | treke|home | we're waiting for [the phone company] to fix that line |
| 08:36.43 | schurig | kergoth: you're going to Europe? Where to? |
| 08:36.44 | treke|home | god I can't believe how many times I've used that one |
| 08:36.50 | kergoth | schurig: heh. its a movie :) |
| 08:36.58 | kergoth | treke|home: hehe |
| 08:37.11 | treke|home | european vacation? |
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| 08:37.28 | schurig | ~lart kergoth |
| 08:37.29 | kergoth | nah, eurotrip. its the road-trip like one, that had the bloodhound gang reference in the preview |
| 08:37.44 | treke|home | haven't seen that |
| 08:37.46 | kergoth | "the hat! the hat! the hat is on fire!" "we dont need no water, let the mother fucker burn!" |
| 08:37.50 | kergoth | "no, really, its not a joke. its on fire." |
| 08:38.35 | treke|home | 'The final Star Wars movie will be an emotional "Titanic in space"' |
| 08:38.39 | treke|home | well that settles it |
| 08:38.42 | kergoth | hah |
| 08:38.47 | kergoth | scary |
| 08:38.52 | schurig | kergoth: get the doc for your chinese alarm clock. Copy the text. Maybe no one realizes it. |
| 08:38.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:39.13 | treke|home | if I had any hope it wouldnt absolutly suck before, it's long gone |
| 08:40.57 | kergoth | hey, i could call in sick. for my last week at work |
| 08:40.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:40.59 | hrw|work | gello |
| 08:41.25 | treke|home | kergoth: no vacation time saved up? |
| 08:41.46 | kergoth | dont think so, pretty sure i'm out |
| 08:41.51 | kergoth | vaca & sick is the same time bank |
| 08:41.58 | kergoth | just one big personal time bank deal |
| 08:42.18 | wrobbie | last week? you quitting? |
| 08:42.48 | kergoth | yep. the job wasnt a good fit for me. been having trouble getting shit done |
| 08:42.53 | kergoth | bored out of my mind |
| 08:43.12 | kergoth | treke|home: you read the article about the coder who turned bicycle messenger? |
| 08:43.20 | wrobbie | new job requirement: no doc reviewing.. |
| 08:43.30 | kergoth | http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/3/19/133129/548 |
| 08:46.43 | bluelightning | hmm, strange... it seems on my desktop that CF cards are now mounting as "msdos" instead of "vfat" |
| 08:51.19 | treke|home | that started happening to me in 2.6.9 |
| 08:51.58 | bluelightning | hmm... |
| 08:52.18 | bluelightning | googling has not turned up a fix yet... I'm using 2.6.11 at the moment |
| 08:52.39 | treke|home | vi /etc/fstab |
| 08:52.52 | treke|home | edit line for compact flash card. set fstype to vfat |
| 08:53.48 | kergoth | you can probalby just manipulate /etc/filesystems |
| 08:53.50 | kergoth | change the order |
| 08:53.55 | kergoth | move vfat above msdos |
| 08:54.29 | treke|home | probably would fix it as well |
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| 08:55.10 | XorA | morning |
| 08:55.11 | CoreDump|home | kbot: hello |
| 08:55.12 | bluelightning | hmm... /etc/filesystems points to /proc/filesystems on gentoo |
| 08:55.12 | kbot | CoreDump|home: Error: "hello" is not a valid command. |
| 08:55.15 | bluelightning | hi XorA |
| 08:55.31 | CoreDump|home | kergoth: is your kbot a supybot? |
| 08:55.35 | bluelightning | CoreDump|home: hmm, how rude |
| 08:55.39 | kergoth | CoreDump|home: yeah, been playing with its codebase |
| 08:55.39 | bluelightning | :) |
| 08:55.42 | CoreDump|home | :) |
| 08:55.51 | CoreDump|home | @lart me |
| 08:55.56 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 08:56.07 | CoreDump|home | where did you find a lart database if i may ask? |
| 08:56.11 | kergoth | i didnt |
| 08:56.15 | kergoth | thats the only one in it |
| 08:56.16 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:56.19 | kergoth | been looking for one |
| 08:56.20 | CoreDump|home | mine shiped w/o one |
| 08:56.23 | kergoth | same. |
| 08:56.31 | treke|home | bluelightning: iirc the system looks at /etc/filesystems first and then /proc/filesystems if it isnt present |
| 08:56.46 | kergoth | normally you'd have /etc/filesystems so filesystem kernel m odules get loaded when using -t auto |
| 08:56.49 | CoreDump|home | well, mine didn't know _any_ larts at all. Maybe the dian maintainer fucked up? |
| 08:56.50 | treke|home | sounds like gentoo just pretends like they are the same |
| 08:56.54 | kergoth | since naturally fs's that are modules wouldnt be listed in /proc/filesystems |
| 08:57.02 | bluelightning | treke|home: ok, I guess I should break the symlink then |
| 08:57.06 | kergoth | CoreDump|home: mine didnt either. it doesnt ship with a lart db at all. |
| 08:57.11 | CoreDump|home | dam |
| 08:57.22 | treke|home | ubuntu for example doesnt even include an /etc/filesystems |
| 08:57.25 | CoreDump|home | well, i entered most of blootbots (ie ibot's) larts |
| 08:57.35 | kergoth | CoreDump|home: heh, thats what i was planning on doing |
| 08:57.40 | CoreDump|home | :) |
| 08:57.50 | kergoth | treke|home: that makes sense. a symlink really makes no sense |
| 08:58.05 | treke|home | kergoth: well it is gentoo |
| 08:58.21 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:59.03 | bluelightning | the question would be why is msdos above vfat in /proc/filesystems though... |
| 08:59.25 | treke|home | m comes before v :) |
| 08:59.33 | bluelightning | treke|home: you may well be right :) |
| 08:59.40 | kergoth | i'd bet its filesystem registration order, rather than alphabetical |
| 08:59.46 | kergoth | and then someone changed the link order in the kernel... |
| 08:59.48 | kergoth | bam |
| 08:59.56 | kergoth | just theorizing, but that seems a likely possibility |
| 09:00.36 | bluelightning | oh well, at least I know where to look now... thanks |
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| 09:03.50 | treke|home | this is sad. Had this laptop for nearly a year now and today is the first time sleep has ever worked |
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| 09:04.20 | koen | good morning all |
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| 09:23.36 | CIA-8 | 03CoreDump 07 * r1.3131 10openembedded/packages/base-passwd/base-passwd_3.5.9.bb: Fix PR... |
| 09:23.40 | CIA-8 | 03CoreDump 07 * r1.3130 10openembedded/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Upgrade base-passwd from 3.5.7 to 3.5.9 as 3.5.7 is no longer available from upstream |
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| 09:23.52 | RP | XorA: I found and fixed the speed problem on the c7x0 |
| 09:24.54 | ade|desk | howdy folks |
| 09:25.11 | RP | morning ade|desk |
| 09:25.47 | bluelightning | hi ade|desk |
| 09:29.31 | alakdan | anybody here got some kernel image for zaurus with keybdev module? |
| 09:29.42 | alakdan | kernel image for 5600 |
| 09:30.21 | XorA | RP: I noticed, flashed that ROM last night |
| 09:30.31 | XorA | RP: cheers for that |
| 09:42.20 | RP | mickey|zzZZzz: In the latest c7x0 opie image, the fonts and taskbar all seem a lot smaller than they used to be. I'm not sure if that's be design or not... |
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| 09:48.25 | CIA-8 | 03koen 07 * r1.3132 10openembedded/packages/meta/task-bootstrap.bb: |
| 09:48.25 | CIA-8 | task-bootstrap.bb: |
| 09:48.25 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:48.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 09:48.47 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
| 09:49.11 | CoreDump|home | didn't know that, sorry |
| 09:49.49 | koen | it has been fixed before the ml has been flooded :) |
| 09:50.29 | CoreDump|home | who knows how long 3.5.7 was missing from the server? heh maybe a couple of days |
| 09:50.54 | koen | dunno |
| 09:51.04 | koen | it's been in my DL_DIR for quite a while |
| 09:51.23 | CoreDump|home | same here, i tend to keep my "sources" dir between trashing tmp |
| 09:52.01 | kergoth | keep between? that makes it sound like you do it manually. i hope not :) |
| 09:52.46 | RP | My sources dir still has some of the very first c7x0 2.6 kernel patches in it :) |
| 09:53.48 | wrobbie | hmm. How can I populate root_fs the way I like? Do I have to copy & change base_files? (which means also copy task-bootstrap and bootstrap-image) |
| 09:54.15 | kergoth | thats a pretty broad question |
| 09:54.36 | kergoth | there's a lot more to a rootfs than the base directories in the base-files ipk |
| 09:54.54 | CoreDump|home | kergoth: IIRC "sources" is inside tmp per default. I've moved it to .. |
| 09:55.42 | kergoth | CoreDump|home: yes, the point was, its just a matter of setting DL_DIR. and in doing that, you arent 'keeping the sources between trashing tmp', you're just keeping them outside of tmp, always |
| 09:55.44 | wrobbie | I could copy a rootfs and modify it, but then later updates are tricky.. |
| 09:55.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 09:55.49 | kergoth | wrobbie: ? |
| 09:55.55 | kergoth | why dont you spit out what you're trying to do |
| 09:55.58 | CoreDump|home | heh, right :) |
| 09:56.02 | kergoth | without more information, we cant really answer that question |
| 09:57.08 | CoreDump|home | wrobbie: the rootfs.bbclass supports all kinds of bash hax0ring before completing the image |
| 09:57.21 | wrobbie | ok, I want to create a rootfs that has some of the stuff created by bootstrap-image removed, and other things added. |
| 09:57.30 | kergoth | so create a custom -image .bb |
| 09:57.44 | kergoth | add packages, remove packages |
| 09:58.00 | kergoth | if something you want to add to the image isnt in oe, you've got a decision to make |
| 09:58.14 | schurig | wrobbie: I made my own (not in OE) nfsroot.bb packages which installs the IPKs I want (and not more) and also recursive copies the nfsroot/* files into it for misc config settigs that I don't want in some .ipk files |
| 09:59.16 | kergoth | bleh, i havent done that doc yet |
| 09:59.17 | kergoth | hmm |
| 09:59.43 | wrobbie | ah, that sounds like what I wanna do.. also copy some config files in, to replace standard stuff (/etc/hosts, etc) |
| 09:59.45 | schurig | kergoth: do a /quit until you wrote the doc, IRC can be distracting |
| 09:59.53 | kergoth | heh, very true |
| 10:00.09 | CoreDump|home | that must be the understatement of the year :) |
| 10:01.02 | schurig | wrobbie: for /etc/hosts I used the OE way by adding a oe/packages/netbase/netbase/ramses/hosts file to OE's bitkeeper |
| 10:01.46 | schurig | wrobbie: other places for my own config files are in base-files/base-files/<MACHINE> |
| 10:02.21 | schurig | wrobbie: you could place yours there, too |
| 10:02.37 | schurig | wrobbie: OE has great per-machine or per-distro override capabilities! |
| 10:02.43 | wrobbie | ok (having a look) |
| 10:03.42 | wrobbie | ramses is what you're building? |
| 10:03.50 | greg72 | moin, schurig |
| 10:04.05 | schurig | greg72: how's your PowerPC build ? |
| 10:05.00 | schurig | greg72: Jo reggelt (I hope this is "good morning", I always confuse jo reggelt, jo eszokat) |
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| 10:05.42 | koen | jo napot |
| 10:05.57 | schurig | viszont latasra |
| 10:05.59 | koen | (that's "good day", right?) |
| 10:06.14 | greg72 | no success yet. I asked for help on various lists (oe, uclibc) but no response yet |
| 10:06.28 | greg72 | schurig: you are right |
| 10:06.31 | schurig | greg72: hehe, you're pioneering it |
| 10:06.53 | schurig | Nem beszelek madyarul |
| 10:07.22 | greg72 | schurig: don't say <tschuess> unless you are really leaving :-) |
| 10:07.40 | schurig | koen: that was (or is supposed to be): I don't speak hungarian |
| 10:07.40 | koen | schurig: "I don't speak hungarian"? |
| 10:07.48 | greg72 | koen is right |
| 10:08.00 | koen | magyarul :) |
| 10:08.04 | greg72 | oh yes |
| 10:08.24 | greg72 | it's time to return |
| 10:08.53 | greg72 | I spent 15 months in Leipzig, so we could talk in German if you wish, schurig |
| 10:09.32 | schurig | greg72: hehe, I found many Hungarians that knew German quite good, might be a remnant of the K.u.K. time ... |
| 10:09.59 | greg72 | well, it was a long time ago... |
| 10:10.13 | schurig | greg72: especially in Budapest and in the western part of the country |
| 10:10.22 | greg72 | that's right |
| 10:12.33 | zecke|aw1y | re |
| 10:12.58 | koen | moin zecke |
| 10:13.42 | Ken|JLime | K.u.K ? |
| 10:13.44 | Ken|JLime | haha |
| 10:14.11 | greg72 | Kaiserlich und Königlich, if I recall correctly |
| 10:14.16 | Ken|JLime | in swedish that would mean something in the lines of "dick" |
| 10:14.41 | schurig | Ken|JLime: this is something like "King and Imporer" |
| 10:14.54 | CoreDump|home | s/I/E/ ;) |
| 10:15.02 | greg72 | Emperor you mean? |
| 10:15.08 | schurig | Ken|JLime: Austria used to have some countries conquered, and the Austrian King called himself also Emporer |
| 10:15.21 | Ken|JLime | Aha |
| 10:15.28 | schurig | Ken|JLime: and so the monarchy there were not only a kingdom, but also an empire |
| 10:16.23 | schurig | Ken|JLime: at that time Austria, Hungary, Slowakia, Czech, some Balcan countries where "one" country, "one" in a sense the Austrians ruled everything |
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| 10:17.12 | bluelightning | the "Austro-Hungarian Empire" |
| 10:17.30 | RP | Does anyone know why /etc/hotplug/mmc.agent uses /dev/mmc/part$n for the mmc card location? Which device does that work on? |
| 10:17.38 | bluelightning | RP: ipaq |
| 10:17.40 | koen | RP: ipaqs |
| 10:17.52 | schurig | bluelightning: yeah. And a german abbreviation for this is "K.u.K.", e.g. the K.u.K.-Hofreitschule (kind of a hippodrom with special horses in Vienna) |
| 10:18.02 | bluelightning | schurig: ah ok |
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| 10:18.44 | RP | 2.4 ipaq or 2.6 ipaq? |
| 10:18.51 | XorA | RP: there was a new one posted to oe list that worked on both |
| 10:18.55 | bluelightning | RP: 2.4... not sure about 2.6 |
| 10:19.15 | RP | The one posted to the list won't work on both as they introduced sharpisms |
| 10:19.35 | koen | I think you can work around that in 2.6 using some udev magic |
| 10:19.42 | RP | 2.4 Zaurii don't use hotplug mmc do they? |
| 10:20.02 | RP | If not, this is easy to fix... |
| 10:20.07 | XorA | RP: ah sorry, I missed how he had coded it at the top |
| 10:21.31 | RP | koen: udev makes sure the devices exist but doesn't take care of mounting the devices |
| 10:22.19 | koen | RP: can it be used to create /dev/mmc/* instead of /dev/mmcd*? |
| 10:23.27 | RP | koen: I suspect it could but I'd rather we went with the 2.6 style device names and sorted the problem out once and for all |
| 10:24.36 | CIA-8 | 03koen 07 * r1.3133 10openembedded/packages/xcursor-transparent-theme/xcursor-transparent-theme_0.1.1.bb: |
| 10:24.36 | CIA-8 | xcursor-transparent-theme_0.1.1.bb: |
| 10:24.36 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.42 | schurig | bluelightning: don't worry, my knowledge about NZ history is zero :-) |
| 10:24.55 | koen | I was under the assumption that block devices used /dev/<dir>/(part*,disc} in 2.6 |
| 10:25.17 | bluelightning | schurig: yes but our history is much shorter of course :) |
| 10:25.34 | bluelightning | and perhaps not as interesting |
| 10:25.58 | schurig | bluelightning: maybe NZ goes out and conqueres Australia ... then you'd have something to learn & remember |
| 10:26.05 | bluelightning | heh |
| 10:26.11 | bluelightning | they would eat us alive |
| 10:26.15 | bluelightning | and all of our sheep too |
| 10:26.17 | bluelightning | ;) |
| 10:27.04 | bluelightning | heh |
| 10:31.21 | hrw|work | koen: basically 2.6 use old /dev/ naming style. udev can create anything anyway |
| 10:34.40 | RP | koen: udev uses /dev/mmcblk?p?, devfs uses /dev/mmc. I have no idea which is "correct" :-/ |
| 10:35.02 | hrw|work | RP: rather first as devfs is obsolete |
| 10:35.27 | koen | I do like the ideas of subdirs, it looks a bit more organized |
| 10:36.28 | hrw|work | koen: how much entries you have in /dev/ tree? |
| 10:36.45 | XorA | koen: The idea is udev keeps naming in userspace, the kernel gets on with its real job of driving devices |
| 10:36.57 | koen | hrw|work: too much |
| 10:37.09 | koen | XorA: I know, I just like the devfs naming scheme |
| 10:37.31 | hrw|work | koen: then configure udev to give you devfs naming with compat symlinks |
| 10:37.56 | koen | hrw|work: I was doing that on my h2210 |
| 10:40.07 | hrw|work | who is "Michael Kropfberger"? he recently find many src_uri changes which he floods ML - maybe he should get somekind of write access? |
| 10:40.50 | RP | I don't think udev has any rules for mmc which is why it defaults to the mmcblk?p? naming |
| 10:42.22 | RP | I would add that /dev/mmc/ is wrong as what if you had two mmc card slots. It should really be /dev/mmc0... |
| 10:44.21 | hrw|work | RP: /dev/mmc/disc0 /dev/mmc/disc1 |
| 10:44.33 | hrw|work | if you want devfs style |
| 10:45.13 | hrw|work | or even /dev/mmc/host0/bus0/slot0/disc and /dev/mmc/host0/bus0/slot1/disc ;) |
| 10:45.32 | RP | Given devfs is obsolete, I'm tempted to go with udev's style. That means we don't need to patch udev... |
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| 10:51.54 | Ken|JLime | I just want the kernel-modules to be installed in the rootfs |
| 10:52.00 | Ken|JLime | how do i do that? |
| 10:55.07 | hrw|work | Ken|JLime: add it into machine.conf for example |
| 10:55.32 | Ken|JLime | as an RDEPEND? |
| 10:55.41 | Ken|JLime | BOOTSTRAP-EXTRA-RDEPEND |
| 10:55.42 | Ken|JLime | ? |
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| 10:59.14 | CIA-8 | 03RP 07 * r1.3127.1.1 10openembedded/packages/linux-hotplug/ (linux-hotplug_20040920.bb files/mmc.agent): linux-hotplug: Update mmc.agent to work with 2.6 kernels + udev |
| 10:59.46 | kergoth | RP: eh, thats not right |
| 11:00.00 | kergoth | at the time the hotplug script executes, the device in /dev isnt guaranteed to exist. |
| 11:00.29 | kergoth | the only way to properly do it with udev is to install a script into dev.d, and mount on the _device creation_ event, rather than the _hotplug_ event |
| 11:00.40 | RP | kergoth: I've just updated the script, not created it... |
| 11:00.50 | RP | kergoth: It does work as I just tested it... |
| 11:00.52 | kergoth | yes.. and? |
| 11:01.00 | kergoth | you didnt properly update it to work with udev |
| 11:01.02 | kergoth | despite your claims |
| 11:01.11 | kergoth | because, once again, the device isnt guaranteed to exist at that point |
| 11:01.17 | kergoth | if it works, its luck. timing. |
| 11:01.21 | kergoth | it could break at any time |
| 11:01.34 | RP | Well, I altered it to use udev naming and its less broken than when I started... |
| 11:02.32 | kergoth | good, but its the wrong solution. those scripts shouldnt be used for automount in a udev environment, only in a non-udev environment. needs to be fixed |
| 11:02.42 | kergoth | just making sure people know. |
| 11:03.36 | RP | Ok. Binning the mmc.agent script when using udev which is beyond my oe skills though... |
| 11:04.00 | kergoth | i dont think that should be a build time thing. |
| 11:04.07 | kergoth | there are all sorts of situations whre udev could be installed, but not used |
| 11:04.12 | kergoth | or what have you |
| 11:04.15 | kergoth | or built, but not installed. |
| 11:04.48 | RP | So how does the mmc.agent script know whether to do anything or not? |
| 11:04.54 | kergoth | i'd 1) split out the mmc hotplug scripts into a seperate package, 2) make the .agent simply exit immediately if udev is in use, and 3) install a dev.d script. |
| 11:05.13 | kergoth | just look in /dev for the udev db. the same way soem other startup scripts check for udev |
| 11:07.46 | hrw|work | Ken|JLime: both _DEPEND and RDEPEND - look into collie.conf for example |
| 11:08.09 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 11:11.01 | bluelightning | hi mickeyl |
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| 11:14.46 | hrw|work | hmm.. kdm from kde 3.4 still looks awful (when compared to gdm) |
| 11:15.05 | XorA | hrw|work: kdm is just xdm, gdm was re-written |
| 11:15.30 | hrw|work | XorA: and it's login prompt cannot be made smaller;( |
| 11:16.03 | mickeyl | morning |
| 11:18.16 | Ken|JLime | When adding my linux-kernel-2.6.11 to the RDEPEND, DEPEND it complains about not filling the DEPS for usbutils & pciutils, both of which is not very usefull for the jornada6xx |
| 11:20.29 | CIA-8 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3126.1.1 10openembedded/ (3 files in 2 dirs): upgrade cumulus to 1.2.1 and lower the default preference of the cvs version |
| 11:26.48 | zecke | I hate GPIOs :) |
| 11:28.28 | CIA-8 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3136 10openembedded/packages/zaurus-updater/ (zaurus-updater.bb spitz/updater.sh.c3000): update updater.sh for c3000 |
| 11:28.47 | Ken|JLime | setting DEPEND = "usbutils pcituils" but not adding them to RDEPEND would make them fill the deps but not get included in the final bootstrap-image? |
| 11:32.06 | RP | kergoth`zzz: What you were saying shouldn't be a problem as udev is always called before the hotplug agents |
| 11:33.05 | XorA | RP: it actually says in udev manual it is not designed to mount devices, use another tool |
| 11:34.00 | RP | XorA: It ok to use hotplug as the ordering problem kergoth mentioned isn't true |
| 11:34.19 | schurig | zecke: especially GPIO 5 ? |
| 11:35.17 | hrw|work | ~lart kde 3.4 documentation |
| 11:35.20 | zecke | schurig: Yeah, GPIO5 is evil(tm). I know that the switch is working |
| 11:35.41 | kergoth`zzz | RP: udev is a daemon. it does hotplug event reordering and the like. can you guarantee that the udev hotplug callout waits until the daemon is done creating the node before it returns? |
| 11:35.59 | kergoth`zzz | i dont recall, but i'd really advise checking your assumptions |
| 11:36.35 | RP | kergoth`zzz: udev is listed before default.hotplug in /etc/hotplug.d/default |
| 11:36.38 | kergoth`zzz | yes, and? |
| 11:36.45 | kergoth`zzz | the agent just communicates with the daemon |
| 11:36.58 | kergoth`zzz | you're saying that the agent is fully synchronous? |
| 11:37.07 | RP | As XorA says, filesystem mounting doesn't have ant place in udev |
| 11:37.08 | kergoth`zzz | and waits on the daemon to create the node before hte agent exits? |
| 11:37.19 | RP | If it doesn't its a bug |
| 11:37.39 | kergoth`zzz | i didnt say to use udev to mount devices. i said to use a dev.d script to call out a tool to mount devices. |
| 11:38.40 | RP | That amounts to the same thing... |
| 11:38.55 | RP | I'll try and find out how synchronous udev/hotplug is... |
| 11:39.15 | kergoth`zzz | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:39.15 | kergoth`zzz | #! /bin/bash |
| 11:39.15 | kergoth`zzz | USBMOUNT=/usr/local/bin/usb-mount |
| 11:39.15 | kergoth`zzz | # Unfortunately udev only creates the device nodes AFTER this script is run. |
| 11:39.15 | kergoth`zzz | # We sleep for 2 seconds in the background and then run usb-mount. This will |
| 11:39.17 | kergoth`zzz | # mount the device. |
| 11:39.20 | kergoth`zzz | (sleep 2 && $USBMOUNT) & |
| 11:39.27 | kergoth`zzz | quoted from the usb-storage mounting project, linked to by the udev page |
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| 11:40.07 | kergoth`zzz | yes, please do. |
| 11:41.12 | RP | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:49.54 | alakdan | which bb file should I put in local.conf if I want to build a kernel for poodle, I need also to reconfigure the kernel as I want to include keybdev module |
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| 11:56.48 | schurig | alakdan: you don't put BB-files into your local.conf |
| 11:57.09 | schurig | alakdan: look at conf/local.conf.sample for an example what could be inside |
| 12:01.10 | hrw|work | re |
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| 12:03.39 | CoreDump|home | !test |
| 12:05.50 | CIA-8 | 03koen 07 * r1.3138 10openembedded/packages/kbdd/ (4 files in 2 dirs): kbdd_cvs.bb: Apply patch from Paul Eggleton |
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| 12:08.07 | stealth | hi |
| 12:08.11 | stealth | would it be possible to compile klogic http://www.a-rostin.de/klogic/ for opie? |
| 12:11.06 | zecke | schurig: I#m confident that one can |
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| 12:15.43 | bluelightning | there is also KTechLab: http://ktechlab.fadedminds.com/ |
| 12:15.50 | bluelightning | (slightly different focus) |
| 12:16.18 | stealth | cool |
| 12:17.32 | stealth | so whats the first step, svn bitbake? where do i put the klogic/ktechlab sources? /stuff/build ? |
| 12:19.29 | zecke | stealth: minimal porting will be required |
| 12:21.35 | schurig | stealth: I'd get a staging area, e.g. the libs and headers and cross-compiler. I don't know if you can download that from somewhere. If not, use OE to create this yourself. |
| 12:21.37 | schurig | stealth: it |
| 12:21.42 | schurig | stealth: it's somewhat time-consuming |
| 12:22.18 | schurig | stealth: once you can compile Qt programs for your target, you can get the source code of klogic/ktechlab and try to compile it, opie-fy it etc |
| 12:22.46 | schurig | stealth: once you have patches to opie-fy one of the programs, you (or one of us) can create an bitbake recipe for OpenEmbedded |
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| 12:33.40 | CoreDump|home | ~lart cdbot |
| 12:33.40 | cdbot | CoreDump|home: Don't know, don't care |
| 12:33.47 | CoreDump|home | sigh |
| 12:33.57 | CoreDump|home | ~config channel supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.chars "" |
| 12:34.35 | CoreDump|home | ~lart cdbot |
| 12:34.35 | cdbot | CoreDump|home: ?? |
| 12:34.35 | zecke | ~botfight ? |
| 12:34.47 | ibot | George- stop it! |
| 12:34.47 | CoreDump|home | ...... |
| 12:34.47 | CoreDump|home | cdbot: part |
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| 12:34.48 | cdbot | CoreDump|home: ?? |
| 12:34.49 | CoreDump|home | damn thing |
| 12:35.13 | bluelightning | eh? what was that last bit? |
| 12:35.37 | cdbot | ouch! |
| 12:36.43 | schurig | I'm getting nasty |
| 12:36.48 | schurig | /kick cdbot |
| 12:36.48 | cdbot | schurig: Dunno? |
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| 12:40.46 | CoreDump|home | ~lart cdbot |
| 12:40.47 | cdbot | CoreDump|home: I have no frelling idea! |
| 12:41.03 | CoreDump|home | bleh, kinda bugged |
| 12:41.32 | CoreDump|home | ups |
| 12:41.41 | bluelightning | @lart test |
| 12:41.52 | bluelightning | too many bots... ;) |
| 12:41.58 | CoreDump|home | ibot: config channel supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.chars ~ |
| 12:43.35 | schurig | CoreDump|home: create some new channel, e.g. #botarena :-) |
| 12:43.43 | CoreDump|home | schurig: heh |
| 12:43.52 | CoreDump|home | i just want it to shut up in this channel |
| 12:44.06 | CoreDump|home | the same command worked in two other channels grr |
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| 12:45.14 | CoreDump|home | !test |
| 12:45.15 | cdbot | test is BS |
| 12:45.19 | CoreDump|home | ~lart me |
| 12:45.24 | CoreDump|home | ahh :) |
| 12:46.11 | Kristoffer | nothing provides kernel-modules |
| 12:46.23 | Kristoffer | argh |
| 12:47.30 | schurig | !lart CoreDump|home |
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| 13:20.59 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.04 | hrw|work | libxineopie failed |
| 13:21.22 | mickeyl | did it? let me try |
| 13:23.00 | bluelightning | argh who broke it this time |
| 13:23.09 | hrw|work | mickeyl: maybe it;s because my builddir is over 3 weeks old and have many older versions.. |
| 13:23.24 | bluelightning | time to rm -rf TMPDIR? |
| 13:24.04 | hrw|work | bluelightning: give me machine which will build meta-opie in time shorter then 24h... |
| 13:24.33 | koen | ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl |
| 13:24.51 | koen | that should do it in approx 6 hours |
| 13:26.06 | bluelightning | night all |
| 13:26.50 | hrw|work | n8 bluelightning |
| 13:27.20 | alakdan | how long does it take to build a kernel using bitbake? |
| 13:28.53 | hrw|work | | xine_decoder.c: In function `vorbis_decode_data': |
| 13:28.53 | hrw|work | | xine_decoder.c:222: error: too many arguments to function `vorbis_synthesis' |
| 13:28.53 | hrw|work | | make[3]: *** [xine_decoder.lo] Error 1 |
| 13:28.53 | hrw|work | | make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/hrw/zaurus/bb/build/0301/tmp/work/libxine-opie-1.0-r0/xine-lib-1.0/src/libvorbis' |
| 13:29.04 | mickeyl | crumbs |
| 13:29.06 | mickeyl | same here :/ |
| 13:29.07 | hrw|work | probably need newer/older vorbis.. |
| 13:29.27 | hrw|work | we have two versions of vorbis in OE and some stuff want one, some another |
| 13:31.10 | hrw|work | anyway - time for lunch (disabled mediaplayer2 and met-opie build goes on) |
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| 13:32.12 | univac^ | hi |
| 13:32.14 | koen | /home/koen/OE/build/tmp/familiar//rootfs/usr/lib/ipkg/info/qte-font-smoothsans-110.postinst: line 5: /usr/sbin/update-qtfontdir: No such file or directory |
| 13:32.27 | koen | (probably harmless, but annoying) |
| 13:32.55 | univac^ | what is the good mp3/ogg player, divx player, www browser, jabber client, txt editor for _opie_? |
| 13:33.07 | koen | ask #opie |
| 13:33.17 | univac^ | ok |
| 13:34.35 | mickeyl | koen: when does that happen? |
| 13:34.43 | mickeyl | koen: on image building time? |
| 13:34.54 | koen | mickeyl: yes |
| 13:35.08 | koen | with poodle |
| 13:35.24 | koen | and c7x0 judging from the missing rootfs's |
| 13:35.47 | mickeyl | i'll take a look at next image building time |
| 13:37.44 | CIA-8 | 03RP 07 * r1.3134.1.1 10openembedded/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.11.bb: openzaurus-2.6: Compile fixes from Dirk for tosa |
| 13:45.11 | zecke | schurig: GPIO5 behaves friendly now |
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| 13:47.16 | schurig | zecke: on MNCI Ramses GPIO5 is 'nc' :-) |
| 13:47.19 | greg72 | Did anybody use http://www.bitmover.com/bk-client.shar successfully? |
| 13:52.10 | zecke | greg72: yes |
| 13:53.12 | greg72 | I've compiled it and tried to use update bk://openembedded.bkbits.net/openembedded |
| 13:53.13 | greg72 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.46 | koen | shouldn't that be bk pull? |
| 13:54.10 | Kristoffer | HOW can i just make the modules end up in the rootfs |
| 13:54.16 | Kristoffer | i cant imagine why this would be so damn hard |
| 13:54.41 | zecke | Kristoffer: in your machine depend on the modules? |
| 13:54.56 | Kristoffer | i know, and its very good if i just need a couple |
| 13:55.01 | Kristoffer | but i want all the modules |
| 13:55.18 | Kristoffer | do i need to make a list of all the modules i want included? |
| 13:55.24 | koen | RDEPENDS on kernel-modules |
| 13:55.35 | koen | that should be a catch-all meta-package |
| 13:55.49 | Kristoffer | ah, thx ill try that |
| 13:55.59 | mickeyl | that doesn't work w/ 2.6 yet though |
| 13:56.39 | koen | 2.6-c7x0 or 2.6 in general? |
| 13:57.00 | mickeyl | 2.6 in general |
| 13:57.11 | Kristoffer | Eh |
| 13:57.20 | mickeyl | we should use objdump to gather the intermodule dependencies on 2.6 |
| 13:57.32 | Kristoffer | oki, so i need to specify each module by itself? |
| 13:57.34 | mickeyl | not very high priority atm. though |
| 13:57.39 | koen | didn't pb work on that last month? |
| 13:57.52 | mickeyl | Kristoffer: if on 2.6, yes. if not, depending on kernel-modules should be sufficient. |
| 13:57.55 | mickeyl | koen: did he? |
| 13:58.24 | koen | mickeyl: He did some work on kernel.bbclass and was working on 2.6 |
| 13:58.32 | greg72 | $ ls |
| 13:58.32 | greg72 | demo.sh Makefile sandbox sfio sfioball sfioball.c sfio.c system.h update update.c |
| 13:58.36 | koen | Ididn't check the actuall diffs |
| 13:58.39 | Kristoffer | 2.4 is quite broken for superh so it will never be used. I'll just specify each and every module... |
| 13:58.41 | mickeyl | koen: aha. must've missed that |
| 13:58.47 | greg72 | sfio sfioball and update are the executables |
| 13:58.58 | mickeyl | Kristoffer: that's better anyway, since otherwise you end up with a pretty huge rootfs |
| 13:59.07 | hrw|work | greg72: does demo.sh works for you? |
| 14:00.36 | greg72 | it does something... |
| 14:00.42 | greg72 | but nothing is on the display |
| 14:00.50 | hrw|work | hmm.. worked for me |
| 14:00.54 | greg72 | Press return to get the audiofile repo as of cset 1.100 |
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| 14:01.20 | hrw|work | greg72: and? |
| 14:01.33 | hrw|work | greg72: press 'return' or 'enter' key |
| 14:01.39 | greg72 | hrw|work: are you behind a firewall? I am. |
| 14:01.55 | greg72 | hrw: I did |
| 14:02.00 | hrw|work | not |
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| 14:06.29 | hrw|work | greg72|break: ./sfioball bk://openembedded.bkbits.net/oe.deprecated oe |
| 14:06.47 | hrw|work | greg72|break: works - but I'm not firewalled |
| 14:07.39 | greg72 | hrw|work: but why oe.deprecated? |
| 14:08.38 | greg72 | bk://audiofile.bkbits.net/audiofile/: Connection timed out |
| 14:08.44 | greg72 | demo.sh told me |
| 14:09.28 | hrw|work | greg72: first bk repo which I used and it is small enough to be test one |
| 14:12.50 | RP | mickeyl: I've tried a recent c7x0 opie-image. It all seems to work fine but I did notice all the fonts, icon sizes and taskbar seems small though. Is that by design? |
| 14:13.46 | mickeyl | no |
| 14:14.05 | mickeyl | cat /home/root/Settings/qpe.conf |
| 14:15.00 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:15.25 | RP | Does c7x0 do something special with qpe.conf? My /home/root was a symlink to a none existant /root when I installed this image which may have screwed things up... |
| 14:15.56 | mickeyl | yes, we need a special qpe.conf for c7x0 |
| 14:16.01 | mickeyl | see opie-taskbar/c7x0/qpe.conf |
| 14:16.05 | mickeyl | i.e. we need |
| 14:16.29 | mickeyl | useBigPixmaps = 1 |
| 14:16.29 | mickeyl | SmallIconSize = 24 |
| 14:16.29 | mickeyl | BigIconSize = 48 |
| 14:16.29 | mickeyl | FontFamily = smoothsans |
| 14:16.29 | mickeyl | FontStyle = Regular |
| 14:16.29 | mickeyl | FontSize = 12 |
| 14:16.29 | mickeyl | to make a fairly sane default appearance |
| 14:17.07 | RP | None of that is set. This will have been that symlink problem. I'll reflash as who knows what else I broke... |
| 14:17.36 | mickeyl | ok |
| 14:17.37 | mickeyl | *phew* |
| 14:17.53 | RP | This is a gotcha for anyone with a symlink in /home/root. I don't know if it can be worked around? |
| 14:18.19 | RP | mickeyl: Sorry to cause a panic. I'm trying to help with some testing :) |
| 14:18.24 | mickeyl | well, the default qpe.conf from /opt/QtPalmtop/skel is always only installed when there is not one existing |
| 14:18.26 | mickeyl | RP: sure :) |
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| 14:21.10 | RP | mickeyl: /opt/QtPalmtop/skel doesn't exist... |
| 14:23.09 | mickeyl | yes, it's /opt/QtPalmtop/etc/skel |
| 14:23.59 | RP | mickeyl: Somehow that file wasn't used... :-/ |
| 14:24.36 | mickeyl | can you take a look at the opie init script`? |
| 14:24.46 | mickeyl | it should install it when there's is no one in $HOME/Settings/ |
| 14:25.54 | RP | mickeyl: It does indeed look correct... |
| 14:26.13 | RP | What's the betting, I removed the symlink with opie running :) |
| 14:26.35 | mickeyl | ah heh |
| 14:27.55 | zecke | mickeyl: we could simply copy the sekeleton to $OPIEDIR/etc |
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| 14:30.24 | RP | mickeyl: I wiped out /home/root/Settings and its looking a lot better :) |
| 14:30.50 | RP | mickeyl: With the mmc.agent change I commited, automounting of SD cards works under opie |
| 14:31.35 | RP | Auto screen rotate also works nicely. It doesn't suspend when I close the clamshell though which would be the final touch :) |
| 14:31.42 | RP | Otherwise it loos great :) |
| 14:32.03 | XorA | RP: eeep, dont suspend when closed |
| 14:32.11 | RP | looks |
| 14:32.25 | XorA | RP: I use mine closed |
| 14:33.56 | RP | XorA: So do I. I'd settle for turning the backlight off :) |
| 14:34.17 | zecke | RP: good job |
| 14:34.21 | XorA | RP: screen off would work for me |
| 14:34.22 | mickeyl | RP: It should suspend |
| 14:34.28 | mickeyl | RP: if you tell it to do that |
| 14:34.32 | mickeyl | RP: light-and-power --> hinge action |
| 14:35.06 | RP | mickeyl: aha - "display off" is what I want :) |
| 14:35.15 | mickeyl | yep |
| 14:35.19 | RP | That should probably be the default... |
| 14:35.20 | mickeyl | on kernel 2.4 we had a race condition |
| 14:35.26 | mickeyl | when you chose "suspend" |
| 14:35.41 | mickeyl | the device woke up and fell into sleep again |
| 14:35.46 | mickeyl | i hope that's vanished w/ 2.6 |
| 14:36.38 | RP | mickeyl: "suspend" also works as expected here |
| 14:37.20 | RP | (no race) |
| 14:37.34 | XorA | screen off works here |
| 14:37.52 | mickeyl | great |
| 14:38.09 | mickeyl | is there any reason why we should ship 2.4 with oz 3.5.3 ? |
| 14:38.14 | mickeyl | (the LEDs don't count) |
| 14:38.48 | XorA | mickeyl: GPE |
| 14:39.03 | mickeyl | no, serious reasons only |
| 14:39.05 | mickeyl | (just kidding) |
| 14:39.21 | florian_kc | mickeyl: ! |
| 14:39.31 | XorA | mickeyl: for opie I am finding 2.6 so much more solid than 2.4 |
| 14:39.41 | RP | GPE is broken under 2.6. As far as opie is concerned, 2.6 wins in every way |
| 14:40.07 | RP | There are no missing items of 2.6 functionality now... |
| 14:40.12 | zecke | florian_kc: do you know how much work it would be to fix GPE to cope with a 2.6 kernel? |
| 14:40.21 | zecke | RP: really good job |
| 14:40.51 | mickeyl | ok, we ship both then and recommend 2.6 for opie and 2.4 for gpe. |
| 14:40.52 | RP | zecke: thanks :) |
| 14:41.00 | florian_kc | zecke: Basically i don't see a reason why it shouldn't work with 2.6. Do you know what is going wrong? |
| 14:41.14 | mickeyl | unless someone fixes the issues until friday |
| 14:41.21 | zecke | florian_kc: No I'm asking because I don't see a reason as well :) |
| 14:41.35 | RP | I couldn't figure out what was going wrong with gpe. It looks like some kind of init race... |
| 14:41.37 | zecke | florian_kc: probably one needs to adjust the xmodmap or such |
| 14:41.53 | XorA | zecke: nothing wrong with the xmodmap |
| 14:42.05 | XorA | zecke: X will not yeild the VT for suspend |
| 14:42.24 | XorA | gpe-dm and windowmaker argue over the root window so you cant actually log in |
| 14:42.28 | RP | The keymap is fine. The problem was the window manager wasn't loading as it claimed one was already loaded when it wasn't |
| 14:42.36 | hrw|work | mickeyl: atleast for collie there is no such problem ;) |
| 14:42.58 | XorA | esd is unkillable and unfreezable so you can never suspend anyway |
| 14:43.20 | florian_kc | XorA: Usually noone uses windowmaker with gpe... |
| 14:43.22 | koen | how enlightened to be unkillable |
| 14:44.18 | XorA | florian_kc: Im a mong, matchbox is what I meant to type |
| 14:44.26 | florian_kc | ah |
| 14:44.46 | XorA | ~larts fingers for not following instructions |
| 14:44.51 | XorA | ~lart fingers for not following instructions |
| 14:45.11 | florian_kc | XorA: i don't think that's a 2.6 issue... nothing should run matchbox while gpe-dm is running. |
| 14:45.31 | mickeyl | hrw|work: well, john has been doing more work lately. |
| 14:45.57 | RP | hrw|work: collie-2.6 is slowly getting there. It will catch up... |
| 14:46.02 | XorA | florian_kc: just going through all the problems I have with GPE today |
| 14:46.44 | RP | Has anyone tried a recent 2.4 gpe image? Maybe that has the same issues? |
| 14:47.11 | hrw|work | anyway I'm sceptical one in collie/2.6 subject |
| 14:50.13 | mickeyl | true, usb and SD will probably be never working |
| 14:50.22 | mickeyl | and without these two, it's hard to convince users to use 2.6 |
| 14:51.00 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
| 14:52.10 | hrw|work | and when someone will try to use wifi card to connect collie with net (instead of usbnet) then where will save something? |
| 14:53.03 | XorA | mickeyl: I wonder if the guys behind Z emulator have the access to write SD/USB drivers |
| 14:53.58 | mickeyl | XorA: i don't think they have source to the SD. |
| 14:56.21 | zecke | RP: do you know if mmcblock needs to be compiled as module? |
| 14:58.58 | RP | zecke: No, it works fine compiled in |
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| 15:06.50 | zecke | RP: hmm maybe I'm mistaken but if I do a mmc_detect_change after getting the removal interrupt |
| 15:06.56 | CIA-8 | 03pb 07 * r1.3138.1.1 10openembedded/packages/gtk+/ (gtk+-1.2_1.2.10.bb gtk+-1.2-1.2.10/timezone-fix.patch): apply patch from Michael Kropfberger to fix timezone problem |
| 15:07.15 | zecke | RP: udev does not remove the device, probably I should some time until calling mmc_detect_change? |
| 15:08.52 | RP | zecke: You need to debounce the switch if the hardware doesn't do that for you. |
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| 15:09.49 | zecke | RP: yeah, I've spied at your code :) |
| 15:09.57 | koen | I guess hiring a programmer to fix it in software was cheaper than putting to flipflops in the design... |
| 15:10.05 | RP | zecke: With the way mmc/sd slots are built, the switch says the card has left whilst there is still electrical contact with the card. It can half init the card in the time it takes to break electrical contact, hence the timer in the corgi code... |
| 15:10.09 | koen | s/to/two/ |
| 15:10.59 | zecke | RP: but mmc_detect_change schedules_work as well, but it sounds realistically that the switch is triggered |
| 15:11.05 | zecke | RP: but the card is still present |
| 15:12.06 | RP | The schedule_work doesn't delay the work. It can happen instantly after that call is made |
| 15:12.32 | zecke | that is right though |
| 15:12.51 | RP | When I said above is that yes, the switch triggers and the card is ejecting but can still be in electrical contact |
| 15:13.38 | zecke | RP: thank you |
| 15:14.14 | zecke | RP: C7xx: Would you declare the keyboard layout final |
| 15:14.20 | zecke | RP: or do we've any short comings? |
| 15:14.46 | RP | I'm not aware of any and I can't see it changing much |
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| 15:15.16 | RP | zecke: Do you mean the kernel driver or the userspace keymap? |
| 15:25.57 | zecke | RP: Admitingly I don't know who loads it |
| 15:27.13 | RP | The kernel driver has a basic set of keys. The kernel's default keymap is incorrect though. We therefore load one at runtime which corrects it. Its done by initscripts in oe. |
| 15:27.53 | zecke | RP: My question basicly is do we've some modifiers we don't use yet? |
| 15:31.33 | RP | zecke: I don't think there are any more |
| 15:34.16 | chouimat | hi zecke |
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| 15:50.56 | schurig | oh no, http://www.treke.net/oe/source/libc_sources.redhat.com__20040726.tar.gz doesn't fetch and NOTE: Update cvs://anoncvs@sources.redhat.com/cvs/glibc;module=libc;date=20040 doesn't work either |
| 15:51.04 | schurig | cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 15:51.06 | schurig | :-( |
| 15:56.03 | koen | schurig: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/libc_sources.redhat.com__20040726.tar.gz |
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| 16:12.08 | alakdan | wierd, after the long compile I am getting this make[2]: arm-linux-gcc-2.95: Command not found |
| 16:12.09 | alakdan | but when I echo $PATH |
| 16:12.09 | alakdan | /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/bin:/stuff/bitbake/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games |
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| 16:16.00 | XorA | alakdan: you probably started bitbake before you changed the path? |
| 16:16.26 | XorA | alakdan: or you didnt rename the arm-linux-gcc file |
| 16:20.01 | alakdan | XorA: the first one is true (started bitbake before realizing that I forgot to add the 2.95.3/bin to PATH ). How do I remedy it? |
| 16:20.17 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.28 | alakdan | ok |
| 16:21.02 | alakdan | thanks :) |
| 16:23.26 | hrw|work | ~lart multisynk |
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| 16:25.45 | XorA | hrw|work: heh heh multisync, otherwise known as multiscreup |
| 16:25.51 | XorA | multiscrewup |
| 16:26.36 | hrw|work | forget it - opie can be used without pim |
| 16:27.00 | hrw|work | I just wanted to check does opie-contacts finally sorts when click on headers |
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| 16:40.43 | alakdan | kernel build is now complete. Is it possible to just ipkg install the kernel ipk files or I have to build an image or something? |
| 16:41.05 | alakdan | and reflash |
| 16:41.28 | Bernardo | hi |
| 16:41.50 | hrw|work | you can flash kernel and then install newer modules |
| 16:41.53 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
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| 16:50.50 | reenoo | afternoon |
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| 17:51.20 | alakdan | weird, Im getting this while installing a module ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for kernel-module-keybdev: |
| 17:51.20 | alakdan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:54.06 | reenoo | alakdan: from the topic: "This is not a distribution support channel" |
| 17:55.11 | alakdan | reenoo: Im trying to build a kernel with keybdev support, as kbdd is not supported in oz :) |
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| 18:06.53 | koen | mickeyl: does OZ ship kbdd? |
| 18:07.50 | mickeyl | doubtful. i don't even know what that's for |
| 18:09.23 | koen | ah, it only shows up in ipaq-common |
| 18:09.37 | koen | mickeyl: it's a userspace driver for serial keyboards |
| 18:09.45 | mickeyl | aha |
| 18:09.50 | mickeyl | do we need that? |
| 18:09.58 | mickeyl | if so, put it into handheld-common instead of ipaq-common |
| 18:10.13 | koen | if you want to support IR keyboards and some bt keyboards |
| 18:11.15 | koen | alakdan wants it :) |
| 18:11.26 | mickeyl | who am i to disobey :D |
| 18:12.24 | koen | the reason why I asked is kbdd depends on 2 kernel modules: uinput and keybdev |
| 18:12.33 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 18:12.37 | mickeyl | not good |
| 18:12.46 | mickeyl | better go w/ standalone install then |
| 18:12.46 | koen | and if alakdan is correct, those are disabled in the OZ kernels |
| 18:13.32 | mickeyl | i see. alakdan - want to cook up a patch enabling those? |
| 18:13.32 | alakdan | yes its disabled |
| 18:14.05 | alakdan | mickeyl: created the /dev/misc/uinput via mknod. but the kbdd still will not run and outputs failed to open uinput device: No such file or directory |
| 18:14.23 | alakdan | grrr :) |
| 18:16.14 | alakdan | i just modified the defconf-poodle by hand and enabled INPUT support UINPUT and KEYBDEV |
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| 18:20.58 | alakdan | is devfs disabled for zaurus? how do I enable it? |
| 18:21.06 | treke|laptop | mornin |
| 18:21.08 | treke|laptop | it's disabled |
| 18:21.12 | mickeyl | we don't support devfs for the zaurii |
| 18:21.23 | treke|laptop | kergoth`zzz: wake up. you have a meeting |
| 18:23.16 | alakdan | mickeyl: seems kbdd needs /dev/devfs/misc/uinput or /dev/input/uinput . problem is I tried creating manually /dev/input/uinput via mknod but I still get failed to open uinput device |
| 18:23.45 | mickeyl | yeah. i don't think devfs will improve things though. you have to find out what happens there |
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| 18:25.56 | alakdan | mickeyl: do I have to rebuild the kernel with debug options or something? do I have to uncomment the following on local.conf? # DEBUG_BUILD = "1" |
| 18:25.56 | alakdan | # INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP = "1" |
| 18:26.08 | treke|laptop | to do what? |
| 18:26.59 | alakdan | treke|laptop: I dont know where to start on tracking down the problem of uinput module no logs or something |
| 18:27.09 | mickeyl | alakdan: nothing in dmesg ? |
| 18:27.16 | mickeyl | sure that your device nodes are right? |
| 18:27.23 | mickeyl | strace relevals nothing? |
| 18:27.26 | mickeyl | reveals even |
| 18:27.45 | alakdan | hangon |
| 18:30.15 | alakdan | nothing in dmesg, ls -al /dev/input/uinput crw-r--r-- 1 root root 10, 233 Jan 1 00:30 /dev/input/uinput |
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| 18:46.44 | alakdan | koen: mickey_away: ok, I got it now. my next problem is debugging modification I made for kbdd (to make my IR keyboard work) :) Thanks a lot! Gotta sleep now |
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| 19:14.56 | CosmicPenguin | I like xfce, but its hard to keep up when you are the package maintainer |
| 19:16.10 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 19:35.59 | gremlin[it] | good evening ... |
| 19:36.18 | koen | hey gremlin[it] |
| 19:36.26 | gremlin[it] | hi koen ;) |
| 19:36.38 | gremlin[it] | ppp problem is knows ? |
| 19:36.42 | gremlin[it] | ppp problem is known ? |
| 19:39.01 | koen | ppp doesn't build? |
| 19:39.32 | gremlin[it] | yep |
| 19:39.47 | gremlin[it] | and others |
| 19:39.53 | gremlin[it] | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.18 | gremlin[it] | mhhh crypt, setkey, encrypt not found and are all libc functions :( ... |
| 19:43.39 | gremlin[it] | or a missing include in pppd os something wrong with libc |
| 19:47.30 | gremlin[it] | mhh >>> |
| 19:47.34 | gremlin[it] | #ifdef HAVE_CRYPT_H |
| 19:47.35 | gremlin[it] | #include <crypt.h> |
| 19:47.35 | gremlin[it] | #endif |
| 19:47.36 | gremlin[it] | <<< |
| 19:47.47 | gremlin[it] | in chap_ms.c |
| 19:48.18 | gremlin[it] | it's a clue ... maybe configure step fail something ;( |
| 19:48.39 | koen | we'll see |
| 19:49.01 | gremlin[it] | £define HAVE_CRYPT_H=y .. it's ok |
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| 20:00.50 | pb_ | hi all |
| 20:00.57 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
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| 20:03.58 | gremlin[it] | koen, gotcha !!! |
| 20:04.18 | gremlin[it] | i found on Makefile of pppd >>> |
| 20:04.26 | gremlin[it] | ifneq ($(wildcard /usr/lib/libcrypt.*),) |
| 20:04.27 | gremlin[it] | LIBS += -lcrypt |
| 20:04.27 | gremlin[it] | endif |
| 20:04.27 | gremlin[it] | <<< |
| 20:04.34 | gremlin[it] | and fail ... |
| 20:04.46 | pb_ | heh, that's no good |
| 20:04.50 | pb_ | ~lart pppd |
| 20:05.41 | gremlin[it] | pb_ are u connected via ipv6 ? |
| 20:07.39 | koen | I thought I debugged the sixxs software when I got ipv6 connectivity yesterday.... |
| 20:07.54 | pb_ | gremlin[it]: always. |
| 20:07.55 | koen | ... only to find out my uni vpn also assings ipv6 :) |
| 20:08.02 | pb_ | heh |
| 20:08.12 | gremlin[it] | pb_, i notice just now ;) |
| 20:09.57 | koen | actually my tunnel wasn't working because I'm not italian |
| 20:10.08 | koen | italian people have access to avaya |
| 20:10.21 | gremlin[it] | koen, really ?!?!?! |
| 20:10.23 | koen | with works behind a NAT firewall |
| 20:11.05 | koen | http://www.sixxs.net/tools/ayiya/ |
| 20:11.06 | gremlin[it] | but ADSL and broadband conenctions are really poor in italy ;( and really not cheap as in others country :( ... |
| 20:11.46 | pb_ | I hear that GPRS is very cheap in Italy, though. I guess you can't win them all. |
| 20:12.29 | gremlin[it] | mhh mybe isn't expensive.. i think in general cells fee in italy ar cheap ... |
| 20:13.27 | koen | from scratch to glibc packaging: 24 minutes |
| 20:14.02 | koen | which would be less when using raid |
| 20:17.34 | Crofton | if you list a .patch file in the SRC_URI, does the ;patch=1 mean patch -p1? |
| 20:17.48 | koen | no |
| 20:17.52 | koen | pnum=1 |
| 20:18.11 | Crofton | hmm, what does the patch=1 mean? |
| 20:18.16 | koen | patch=1 marks it as a patch |
| 20:18.19 | Crofton | ah |
| 20:18.28 | Crofton | would pnum=1 be the default? |
| 20:18.45 | koen | iirc, yes |
| 20:18.54 | Crofton | that would make sense |
| 20:19.19 | Crofton | Thanks |
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| 20:56.20 | Kristoffer | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.20 | Kristoffer | | kernel-image-2.6.11 kernel-module-3c589 kernel-image-2.6.11 kernel-image-2.6.11 kernel-image-2.6.11 kernel-image-2.6.11 kernel-image-2.6.11 kernel-image-2.6.11 kernel-image-2.6.11 kernel-image-2.6.11 kernel-image-2.6.11 kernel-image-2.6.11 |
| 20:56.20 | Kristoffer | | Nothing to be done |
| 20:56.42 | Kristoffer | im going nutters :D |
| 20:58.07 | Kristoffer | i cant imagine why it doesnt work |
| 20:58.31 | pb_ | well, do you have kernel-image-2.6.11.ipk on hand? |
| 21:03.53 | Kristoffer | I've used the linux-epia-2.6.11.bb for template |
| 21:04.28 | pb_ | so, is that a yes or a no? |
| 21:05.10 | Kristoffer | well, ... it builds the kernel,but doesnt package it |
| 21:05.20 | pb_ | okay, so that's a "no". |
| 21:05.30 | Kristoffer | ye, kinda. |
| 21:05.39 | pb_ | you need to fix it so that the kernel is packaged, or fix your bootstrap dependencies to not require kernel-image. |
| 21:05.46 | pb_ | depending on whether you want the kernel in the rootfs or not. |
| 21:06.07 | pb_ | heh. there's no "kinda" about it. either you have the file or you don't, and in your case you don't. |
| 21:08.20 | Kristoffer | i know :P just realised what i must have done wrong when you asked |
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| 21:43.17 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
| 21:43.50 | mickeyl | good evening phil |
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| 21:50.37 | gints|sleep | mickeyl: recent changes in oe qpf dir causes fonts not apear while install as package |
| 21:52.56 | mickeyl | that's sad |
| 21:53.48 | gints|sleep | should ask hrw? |
| 21:54.10 | mickeyl | yeah. i didn't touch the fonts since adding the autosplit feature months ago |
| 21:54.13 | gints|sleep | will try to check tomorow |
| 21:54.16 | mickeyl | k |
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| 22:21.12 | Bernardo | mickeyl: gpsd init.d script isn't working |
| 22:21.49 | Bernardo | it is trying to run a /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions |
| 22:22.04 | Bernardo | I'll try to fix it today or tomorrow |
| 22:22.08 | mickeyl | very good |
| 22:24.08 | Bernardo | I don't know if the latest gpsd releases still work with qpegps |
| 22:24.30 | mickeyl | they should |
| 22:24.35 | mickeyl | since they sent their changes upstream |
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| 22:24.52 | mickeyl | i'm going to test after your fix |
| 22:25.47 | Bernardo | ok |
| 22:25.59 | Bernardo | time to restart my desktop - kde 3.4 |
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| 23:07.02 | w3rwolf | koen: doesn't work... |
| 23:07.25 | koen | with an up to date OE repo? |
| 23:08.07 | w3rwolf | hm... about one week old.. |
| 23:08.13 | w3rwolf | 3-4 days.. mom |
| 23:09.08 | koen | w3rwolf: in any case update, I pushed a new mozconfig for minimo this week |
| 23:09.31 | w3rwolf | koen: i placed the CVSDATE in the .bb file, now it works |
| 23:10.04 | w3rwolf | *sigh* all the compiling stuff once again :( |
| 23:10.34 | koen | if you are really lazy: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.2/20050321/gpe-image-simpad-20050321123457.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 23:10.57 | w3rwolf | ui |
| 23:12.00 | w3rwolf | thx, but I want to try building my own image first... |
| 23:12.34 | w3rwolf | btw.. what's this minimo-stuff? |
| 23:14.07 | koen | mini mozilla |
| 23:14.38 | w3rwolf | so i won't need firefox at all?! |
| 23:14.51 | w3rwolf | or should i preferr firefox? |
| 23:16.01 | koen | it's a stripped down firefox |
| 23:16.21 | koen | works pretty wel |
| 23:16.38 | koen | dougt is pressing it really hard |
| 23:16.54 | CosmicPenguin | cept the UI is depressing for anyone not on a 320x200 |
| 23:17.30 | koen | CosmicPenguin: have you seen the new UI? |
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| 23:18.05 | CosmicPenguin | koen: when you say new.... |
| 23:18.14 | koen | last week.... |
| 23:18.47 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, no I haven't |
| 23:18.50 | CosmicPenguin | URLS? |
| 23:19.15 | koen | http://handhelds.org/~florian/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Applications&id=port_27393 |
| 23:19.44 | CosmicPenguin | Well, now, isn't that purty |
| 23:20.55 | koen | CosmicPenguin: and http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4710.png |
| 23:21.14 | koen | the little bar on the bottom is a small version of that menu |
| 23:21.26 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, that looks real nice |
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| 23:21.42 | koen | btw, there is a wince version of minimo too |
| 23:27.22 | w3rwolf | CosmicPenguin: arrrrrrrgh |
| 23:27.31 | w3rwolf | ah koen |
| 23:27.55 | w3rwolf | watched the last URL in my console and now I've a kind of smurf-vision |
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| 23:33.37 | w3rwolf | hm... just an idea.... : does anyone know if there's a linux-on-a-windows-mobile-cellphone project? :D |
| 23:39.00 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:46.44 | Philippe | w3rwolf, well I know of some people that tried. Saw some guy that was hacking his phone at the UKUUG summer conference last year. |
| 23:47.01 | Philippe | Don't know how far it got though. |
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| 23:54.52 | CosmicPenguin | holy crap - rdesktop cvs compiled |
| 23:55.01 | CosmicPenguin | Didn't expect that |
