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| 01:00.28 | mithro | hey ljp |
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| 02:43.51 | emte | hmm |
| 02:43.56 | emte | anyone use wishbone? |
| 02:43.58 | emte | soc |
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| 04:23.04 | treke|home | anything you can think of is up for discussionh addddddddddddddddddddddssssssssssssssssssdddddddddddddddddddddd |
| 04:23.05 | treke|home | s |
| 04:23.30 | emte | emte hmm |
| 04:23.30 | emte | emte anyone use wishbone? |
| 04:23.30 | emte | emte soc |
| 04:24.41 | emte | i take it thats a no on your part treke- ? |
| 04:27.54 | emte | system-on-chip |
| 04:28.08 | emte | wishbone is the opensource project |
| 04:28.22 | emte | http://www.opencores.org |
| 04:28.31 | gb2 | wishbone is the open cores bus right? |
| 04:29.23 | emte | fpga bug, yes |
| 04:29.27 | emte | bus* |
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| 04:59.59 | gb2 | a friend of mine was pondering building a DVI capture card out of an fpga card |
| 05:00.09 | gb2 | he had his mind pointed toward breaking HDCP i think |
| 05:01.23 | emte | hmm |
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| 05:15.54 | gb2 | fpga work without expensive tools is rather difficult |
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| 05:16.03 | gb2 | the free tools i've seen are rather lacking |
| 05:16.20 | emte | yeah some are |
| 05:16.45 | emte | it is getting better tho |
| 05:17.03 | gb2 | board design is similar |
| 05:17.09 | gb2 | the geda suite is ok |
| 05:17.21 | emte | actually i cant stand geda |
| 05:17.22 | gb2 | but gschem and pcb are very non-user-friendly |
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| 05:17.32 | gb2 | emte: heh |
| 05:17.37 | emte | i pretty much use eagle now |
| 05:17.45 | gb2 | yeah, eagle isn't free though |
| 05:17.50 | emte | i fought with geda for a long time trying to make it useful |
| 05:17.54 | emte | sure it is |
| 05:18.00 | emte | just not for businesses |
| 05:18.10 | gb2 | not if you want to do more than just double sided |
| 05:18.16 | gb2 | or if you want to make money off your designs |
| 05:18.32 | emte | then its reasonable taht you should support the project |
| 05:18.40 | emte | if your generating money off it |
| 05:18.47 | gb2 | it gets expensive fast |
| 05:19.17 | emte | its far cheaper than protel or orcad |
| 05:19.21 | gb2 | there's no autorouter at all in the free version is there? |
| 05:19.32 | emte | yeah there is |
| 05:19.42 | emte | the algo still needs a bit of work |
| 05:19.46 | emte | but its decent |
| 05:20.47 | gb2 | ah, 100x80mm, 2 signal layers, autorouter, US$50 |
| 05:20.57 | gb2 | and you can make money off your designs |
| 05:21.27 | emte | see thats not bad |
| 05:21.44 | emte | i can only etch 2layers in my house anyway |
| 05:21.54 | emte | use headers and stack |
| 05:22.08 | gb2 | i thought it didn't have the autorouter for that |
| 05:22.14 | gb2 | that's not bad if it has it though |
| 05:22.46 | emte | even in protel you have to fix the autorouting ... |
| 05:22.48 | gb2 | if you want to go to 4 layers, 160x100 area, it's $200 layout, $200 schematic, $200 autorouter |
| 05:22.57 | gb2 | so you jump from $50 to $600 |
| 05:23.05 | emte | not really |
| 05:23.27 | emte | its kinda doubtfull you would need the schem upgrade |
| 05:24.39 | emte | some reason your numbres seem a bit small as well |
| 05:25.18 | emte | no maybe not .. |
| 05:25.24 | gb2 | http://www.cadsoft.de/prices.htm |
| 05:25.28 | gb2 | i was quoting from here |
| 05:25.35 | emte | yeah was just converting to inches |
| 05:25.39 | gb2 | ah |
| 05:25.56 | gb2 | 4x3" roughly |
| 05:25.59 | gb2 | for the light version |
| 05:26.17 | emte | i think 100x80 is A6 |
| 05:26.28 | emte | if i remrember which direction metric goes |
| 05:26.52 | gb2 | what country are you in? |
| 05:26.59 | emte | which is ~4x6 |
| 05:27.03 | emte | canada |
| 05:27.22 | emte | but sizes like taht are euro |
| 05:27.29 | emte | for a good reason actually |
| 05:27.37 | gb2 | www.sparkfun.com has a great deal on custom PCBs |
| 05:27.40 | emte | the US system wastes too much |
| 05:27.42 | gb2 | $2.50/sqin |
| 05:27.50 | gb2 | doubleside w/soldermask and silkscreen |
| 05:28.08 | emte | A sizes divide the master for mav value and usage |
| 05:28.15 | emte | max* |
| 05:28.25 | gb2 | yeah |
| 05:28.45 | gb2 | metric paper is great that way, but hte paper really feels weird if you're used to US Letter |
| 05:29.00 | emte | yeah the sizes are a bit different |
| 05:30.44 | emte | belch 58gb to go |
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| 06:54.17 | pb_ | hi all |
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| 07:21.47 | hrw|work | hello |
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| 07:38.47 | panthero1 | hiya all |
| 07:39.11 | panthero1 | any one can help me out...how do i send a ctrl-alt-del sequence with keypebble to a host ? thanks |
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| 07:46.32 | XorA|gone | /nick XorA |
| 07:47.16 | hrw|work | hi XorA |
| 07:47.16 | XorA | hi people and hrw|work |
| 07:54.41 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:56.10 | koen | hmmm |
| 07:56.23 | koen | the OE bugtracker is getting littered with distro stuff |
| 07:56.31 | koen | "libts is missing from the feed" |
| 07:57.55 | XorA | koen: thats always going to happen, most lusers only look as far as the first URL to moan on |
| 08:00.32 | XorA | hrw|work: got your new beast yet? |
| 08:01.18 | koen | XorA: the most surprising thing is, they even guessed the guest/guest login |
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| 08:06.22 | panthero1 | any one can help me out...how do i send a ctrl-alt-del sequence with keypebble to a host ? thanks :) |
| 08:06.39 | panthero1 | hiya XorA |
| 08:07.01 | Cloe | finally |
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| 08:09.32 | kergoth | Cloe: i'd really recommend that you read the topics of irc channels you enter. |
| 08:09.45 | kergoth | Cloe: it says quite clearly that this is not a distribution support channel. |
| 08:09.51 | pb_ | hey kergoth |
| 08:09.55 | kergoth | hey |
| 08:09.58 | Cloe | oh sorry about that |
| 08:10.18 | Cloe | what does this channel do btw ? |
| 08:10.34 | pb_ | it's the OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge |
| 08:12.37 | greg72 | good morning |
| 08:15.30 | RP | morning all |
| 08:15.34 | hrw|work | XorA: not yet |
| 08:15.56 | hrw|work | XorA: I will also get BT cf from lardman |
| 08:16.01 | pb_ | hi rp |
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| 08:17.50 | reenoo | morning |
| 08:18.27 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 08:18.52 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 08:18.55 | koen | het RP, greg72 and hrw|work |
| 08:19.37 | hrw|work | hi koen reenoo rp pb kergoth |
| 08:20.13 | XorA | hrw|work: cool, I should really get a BT card sometime, maybe I can persuade Fiance to buy a job lot as her new phone is BT |
| 08:24.04 | reenoo | hey hrw|work |
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| 08:48.34 | schurig | any GPE advocats here? |
| 08:48.57 | schurig | I installed just a freshly compiled gpe-task-base and got two problems |
| 08:49.07 | schurig | Configuring dbus-1 |
| 08:49.07 | schurig | adduser: unrecognized option `--system' |
| 08:49.25 | schurig | Configuring ttf-bitstream-vera |
| 08:49.28 | schurig | //usr/lib/ipkg/info/ttf-bitstream-vera.postinst: 2: fc-cache: not found |
| 08:49.54 | schurig | for the second problem I'm guessing that adding fontconfig as a dependency to ttf-bitstream-vera would help ... |
| 08:50.35 | schurig | hm, weird name, it's libfontconfig-utils |
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| 08:52.22 | mickeyl | morning |
| 08:52.38 | XorA | morning mickeyl |
| 08:54.50 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl schurig |
| 08:55.19 | schurig | hrw|work: moin! |
| 08:55.29 | schurig | mickeyl: /quit & write diss! :-) |
| 08:56.22 | mickeyl | :D |
| 08:56.24 | mickeyl | morgen |
| 08:58.21 | RP | morning mickeyl |
| 09:02.42 | koen | schurig: adding that dep would get the the everlasting fury of the qt/e people |
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| 09:12.17 | schurig | koen: I agree ... but then it should be in meta-gpe |
| 09:12.37 | koen | that's very true |
| 09:13.00 | koen | I don't know if there a good reason for it not to be in |
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| 09:17.07 | koen | mickeyl: what's the smallest functional opie collection called? opie-base? |
| 09:18.00 | mickeyl | koen: define functional :) |
| 09:18.11 | mickeyl | no seriously, it's not that easy. have a look at opie-collections.inc |
| 09:18.19 | koen | desktop + panel |
| 09:18.24 | mickeyl | opie-taskbar |
| 09:18.31 | mickeyl | but it's bare :) |
| 09:18.39 | koen | I only need a gui and opie-bluetooth-applet |
| 09:18.46 | koen | It's for the distro at work |
| 09:21.22 | koen | mickeyl: http://www.mobihealth.org/images/ban_architecture.gif |
| 09:21.40 | koen | instead of the p900 we mostly use h3870 ipaqs running opie |
| 09:26.57 | gints|wrk | I am working on some patches for opie-bluetooth-applet |
| 09:27.24 | koen | cool |
| 09:27.39 | gints|wrk | for applet it will add start/stop script... |
| 09:27.51 | gints|wrk | you can add connect / disconnect commands there... |
| 09:28.00 | gints|wrk | will be ready for review an evening... |
| 09:28.43 | koen | If it can issue and hciattach with the right parameter (found in /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth) I'm very happy |
| 09:28.56 | koen | s/and/an/ |
| 09:29.11 | mickeyl | sounds good gints|wrk |
| 09:29.30 | gints|wrk | I will add this as next task... |
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| 09:40.44 | Twiun | mornin' |
| 09:40.51 | Twiun | kergoth`zzz: g'night ;) |
| 09:41.04 | koen | 'morning Twiun |
| 09:41.11 | XorA | bed sharing scheme there or what? |
| 09:41.23 | Twiun | hahaha |
| 09:41.46 | mickeyl | hehehe |
| 09:46.17 | hrw|work | one day zecke shared shower with harlekin, now Twiun share bed with kergoth.. |
| 09:46.51 | hrw|work | today tslib does not like initialize_djs patch (reported by friend) |
| 09:47.42 | hrw|work | koen: how does multimachine.inc works? I set MACHINE="collie", build and then change to MACHINE="c7x0" and all _arm.ipk packages are not rebuild? |
| 09:52.29 | koen | hrw|work: correct |
| 09:52.47 | hrw|work | so it's time for new build - c7x0/collie one |
| 09:53.28 | koen | hrw|work: see http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/?page=software&sub=bb for a slightly outdated example |
| 09:54.27 | hrw|work | thx |
| 09:54.43 | hrw|work | btw - header on page looks nice but not when scrolled page |
| 09:56.15 | hrw|work | someone have qpf-dejavu* archives available to fetch? |
| 09:56.16 | koen | it was my first try a absolute positioning |
| 09:57.38 | XorA | hrw|work: hyboria.mine.nu/~dp/ |
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| 09:58.29 | toruvinn | hi. |
| 09:59.23 | toruvinn | could someone please send me qpf-dejavusans-1.8.tar.bz2, since bitbake is trying to get one, but all the mirrors are down. google doesn't say anything about it either. |
| 10:00.06 | XorA | toruvinn: http://hyboria.mine.nu/~dp/ |
| 10:00.20 | toruvinn | great. thanks a lot! |
| 10:00.24 | toruvinn | i owe You one |
| 10:00.47 | hrw|work | thx |
| 10:02.50 | koen | mickeyl: with TMPDIR=/home/koen/OE/build/tmp/${DISTRO}/ I can even switch distro on the fly |
| 10:12.52 | mickeyl | ncie |
| 10:12.54 | mickeyl | nice, even |
| 10:13.26 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 10:13.39 | mickeyl | why does ipkg-index no longer moves old packages to old/ ? |
| 10:14.13 | koen | you forgot it's called morgue? |
| 10:14.19 | koen | and the -m switch? |
| 10:15.26 | mickeyl | hmm when i use -m it moves all packages to morgue |
| 10:15.31 | mickeyl | why's that? |
| 10:15.56 | koen | buggy ipkg version? |
| 10:16.01 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 10:16.22 | koen | ipkg-utils even |
| 10:16.41 | mickeyl | # $Id: ipkg-make-index,v 1.22 2005/03/03 16:39:04 jamey Exp $ |
| 10:17.26 | koen | and another non-OE bug in the OE bugtrackers |
| 10:18.24 | koen | we should kill the bugtracker IMO |
| 10:18.45 | koen | not enough people look at it |
| 10:19.05 | mickeyl | yes |
| 10:19.07 | mickeyl | me too |
| 10:19.33 | mickeyl | IMO it would better to just use the mailing list |
| 10:19.43 | mickeyl | bugtrackers always striked me as backwards |
| 10:19.48 | mickeyl | in the sense of open source |
| 10:19.52 | mickeyl | "here is the bug, fix it." |
| 10:19.58 | mickeyl | that's not how it should be |
| 10:20.04 | mickeyl | "here is a patch for that bug. please apply" |
| 10:20.22 | mickeyl | sounds better to me |
| 10:22.02 | koen | the annoying logins annoy me |
| 10:22.34 | koen | especially when the bugzilla mailserver is wedged and it takes hours to get the login mail |
| 10:23.24 | schurig | mickeyl: I agree. Probably a "Bugs" page on the wiki should be enougth as a remainder |
| 10:24.31 | mickeyl | oh btw., schurig: my phone lives again! :) |
| 10:24.39 | hrw|work | mickeyl: check ipkg-compare-version - maybe you have arm version instead of x86 one |
| 10:24.54 | mickeyl | schurig: i got connection via icq to the author of the flashing tool and we walked through the procedure again. now it's updated and working! (yippee) |
| 10:24.56 | schurig | mickeyl: how did you make it? Crack the bootloader and installing Opie? |
| 10:25.02 | koen | also note the sheer uselesness of the reports "application foo doesn't work" |
| 10:25.10 | mickeyl | hrw|work: thanks, got it sorted out. i had an updated ipkg-make-index, but an old ipkg.py |
| 10:25.15 | koen | what distro? what machine? any build tweaks? |
| 10:25.30 | mickeyl | koen: yeah. uncomplete reports are worse than no reports |
| 10:25.49 | koen | ~smartquestions |
| 10:25.50 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, smartquestions is http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 10:26.15 | koen | that should be a mandatory read for all opensource-software users |
| 10:26.23 | mickeyl | yea |
| 10:27.46 | mickeyl | schurig: I'd love to install Opie, but I'm afraid it doesn't work without a linux backbone |
| 10:27.53 | mickeyl | the phones use an avr and an arm |
| 10:27.58 | mickeyl | it could run on the arm |
| 10:27.59 | mickeyl | in theory :) |
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| 10:28.10 | koen | hey bluelightning |
| 10:28.44 | bluelightning | hi all |
| 10:28.44 | bluelightning | hi koen |
| 10:28.44 | bluelightning | so, are we on track? :) |
| 10:33.10 | koen | bluelightning: 1:28 left till I have to hand in my report |
| 10:33.33 | bluelightning | ah ok, all finished I take it ? |
| 10:33.55 | koen | ehm |
| 10:34.07 | koen | I deleted all empty chapters |
| 10:34.13 | koen | it looks complete |
| 10:34.53 | bluelightning | what's the report on? |
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| 10:35.35 | koen | geostatinary satelite and all the geometrics involved to derives the reflection angles of the sunlight |
| 10:35.56 | mickeyl | uhm... |
| 10:35.59 | mickeyl | folks |
| 10:36.06 | mickeyl | i don't think we can host oz 3.5.3 on sourceforge |
| 10:36.06 | bluelightning | ? |
| 10:36.14 | mickeyl | mickey@r2d2:/local/pkg/oe$ du -h -s feed |
| 10:36.14 | mickeyl | 500M feed |
| 10:36.21 | mickeyl | 500 MegaBytes... |
| 10:36.34 | bluelightning | gah |
| 10:36.55 | mickeyl | bummer |
| 10:36.59 | hrw|work | fsck.. |
| 10:37.06 | mickeyl | I'll go to lunch. Maybe anyone has an idea about that |
| 10:37.09 | mickeyl | fyi: |
| 10:37.30 | mickeyl | mickey@r2d2:/local/pkg/oe/feed$ du -h -s * |
| 10:37.30 | mickeyl | 104K admin |
| 10:37.30 | mickeyl | 31M base |
| 10:37.30 | mickeyl | 62M console |
| 10:37.31 | mickeyl | 52M dev |
| 10:37.31 | mickeyl | 32M devel |
| 10:37.33 | mickeyl | 28M doc |
| 10:37.35 | mickeyl | 1,1M e |
| 10:37.37 | mickeyl | 92K editors |
| 10:37.39 | mickeyl | 1,9M games |
| 10:37.41 | mickeyl | 4,9M gnome |
| 10:37.43 | mickeyl | 2,8M gpe |
| 10:37.44 | mickeyl | 561K interpreters |
| 10:37.47 | mickeyl | 9,0M kernel |
| 10:37.49 | mickeyl | 36K lib |
| 10:37.51 | mickeyl | 55M libs |
| 10:37.53 | mickeyl | 19M machine |
| 10:37.55 | mickeyl | 54M multimedia |
| 10:37.57 | mickeyl | 108K net |
| 10:37.59 | mickeyl | 128K network |
| 10:38.00 | mickeyl | 120K networking |
| 10:38.03 | mickeyl | 98M opie |
| 10:38.05 | mickeyl | 36K shells |
| 10:38.06 | mickeyl | 2,3M unknown |
| 10:38.09 | mickeyl | 72K utils |
| 10:38.10 | mickeyl | 50M x11 |
| 10:38.25 | bluelightning | well, quite clearly the libs just have to go |
| 10:38.31 | bluelightning | ;) |
| 10:38.45 | koen | and who needs X aor opie? |
| 10:38.49 | koen | gui are for weenies |
| 10:41.17 | koen | mickey|lunch: send a mail and I'll put the oz stuff up on http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/OZ/ |
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| 10:43.27 | gremlin[it] | hi to all |
| 10:51.17 | hrw|work | fsck.. I forgot pass to zsafe ;( |
| 10:53.30 | XorA | hrw|work: time for brute force :-) |
| 10:54.59 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 10:58.18 | CoreDump|home | mickey|lunch: I offer oz.hentges.net as a mirror as well. |
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| 11:36.28 | koen | moin zecke |
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| 11:41.59 | schurig | so, basic GPE now works an MNCI |
| 11:42.07 | schurig | s/an/on/ |
| 11:42.14 | koen | cool |
| 11:42.20 | schurig | for the fine tunings I'll need a contract from a customer :-) |
| 11:46.47 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: thanks.for now we need a primary server though :) |
| 11:46.47 | mickeyl | schurig: congrats |
| 11:46.47 | mickeyl | ah, koen |
| 11:47.26 | mickeyl | the problem is we alrady have hard coded the ipkg.conf sources in the images |
| 11:47.26 | mickeyl | and i won't |
| 11:47.26 | mickeyl | i can't even |
| 11:47.26 | mickeyl | rebuild the images |
| 11:47.26 | mickeyl | it would take me too long, so... |
| 11:47.43 | mickeyl | maybe we can redirect or yank the older releases from sf.net |
| 11:48.19 | bluelightning | could be possible, but they don't seem to like people taking stuff down |
| 11:48.38 | bluelightning | from what I read anyway |
| 11:48.48 | koen | mickeyl: put up a new ipkg.conf as a releasenote |
| 11:49.25 | mickeyl | yeah, that'd work |
| 11:49.32 | koen | and tell people to copy it over the old one |
| 11:50.59 | hrw|work | mickeyl: remove 3.5.1 and images from 3.5.2 |
| 11:53.28 | hrw|work | http://openzaurus.org/unofficial/oz-wp.jpg - what do you think? |
| 11:53.56 | mickeyl | very pretty! |
| 11:54.02 | mickeyl | much better than the current layout |
| 11:55.04 | hrw|work | mickeyl: I was thinking about moving oz.org to wordpress so devels can blog about changes so users will know better what is going on |
| 11:55.17 | hrw|work | comments, feeds are for free then |
| 11:55.21 | mickeyl | yeah, why not |
| 11:55.29 | mickeyl | anything that is maintained is good |
| 11:56.36 | schurig | and let's move OE to it, too :-) |
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| 11:56.57 | hrw|work | basically its my website with oz content |
| 11:59.03 | CoreDump|home | well, we could move older releases to the mirrors, freeing up hundres of MB at sf.net. And only a txt-file in the -pre 3.5.3 folder on where to find the old stuff |
| 11:59.37 | mickeyl | yeah, that'd be good |
| 11:59.42 | mickeyl | you have a complete mirror of 3.5.2, right ? |
| 11:59.50 | CoreDump|home | yep |
| 12:00.11 | CoreDump|home | well, w/o the "update" feed |
| 12:00.17 | mickeyl | yeah, the update feed would remain |
| 12:00.22 | mickeyl | just a couple of MB |
| 12:00.25 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
| 12:00.40 | mickeyl | how 'bout 3.5.1 ? |
| 12:00.54 | CoreDump|home | i can d/l that from oz.org np |
| 12:01.31 | mickeyl | very good, that'd help us |
| 12:02.23 | mickeyl | i'm more or less finished with preparing the release. I just need to upload and get a 'go' from people for every image/kernel type and then we can do the official announcement |
| 12:02.48 | mickeyl | a test would involve flashing it, booting, and installing a package from one of the feeds |
| 12:03.00 | mickeyl | that should be enough as a last releasetest |
| 12:04.18 | lardman | RP: ping |
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| 12:07.06 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: I'm ripping the 3.5.1 folder now. |
| 12:07.14 | mickeyl | excellent |
| 12:07.22 | CoreDump|home | anyways, got to go to work. later |
| 12:32.37 | hrw|work | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/ - no content yet |
| 12:33.11 | hrw|work | please register so I will add some admins |
| 12:34.07 | Twiun | surely that should be... please register if you intend on contributing ;) |
| 12:34.08 | hrw|work | until now I go to eat lunch |
| 12:35.03 | mickeyl | bon appetit |
| 12:47.42 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:01.40 | RP | lardman|away: hello |
| 13:04.09 | lardman|away | RP: Hi; 2 days from 100%->98% with no cards in |
| 13:04.30 | lardman|away | RP: Battery level BTW |
| 13:05.16 | lardman|away | RP: Which is better than 100%->37% I had with the CF card in |
| 13:05.20 | RP | lardman|away: That means its highly likely the CF interface isn't getting shut down properly. Thanks for the data point |
| 13:05.40 | lardman|away | RP: Is it worth also looking at the SD card and whether that causes any issues? |
| 13:06.12 | lardman|away | RP: Or is that known to be good. Either way I've got an SD card in now so I'll see what happens |
| 13:06.33 | RP | I'm interested in anything that narrows the problem down :) |
| 13:06.51 | lardman|away | RP: Cool, I'll keep you updated |
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| 13:07.16 | RP | lardman|away: When suspending, I suspect there is a race between scoop and pcmcia. I should be able to prove that with some testing |
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| 13:07.54 | RP | If scoop is shutdown before pcmcia, I know what the problem is. If not, there is probably some other pcmcia bug |
| 13:08.04 | hrw|work | schurig, lardman: I bumped your privileges |
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| 13:40.48 | bluelightning | night all |
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| 13:59.25 | greg72 | hi there |
| 14:00.04 | greg72 | It seems that oe supports uclibc. But why neither dietlibc nor newlib? |
| 14:00.21 | mickeyl | because no one added support for that yet |
| 14:00.29 | mickeyl | the workflow is as follows |
| 14:00.34 | mickeyl | someone is interested -> someone adds |
| 14:01.15 | greg72 | ok, right, but is there any cause that makes oe people like uclibc and not dietlibc and newlib? |
| 14:02.45 | treke|home | it isn't a matter of disliking dietlibc or newlib |
| 14:02.58 | treke|home | it's a matter of no one caring to add dietlibc or newlib |
| 14:03.00 | treke|home | nothing more |
| 14:03.36 | greg72 | thanks |
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| 14:16.06 | toruvinn | hmm |
| 14:16.29 | toruvinn | so, btw, which one is 'faster', uClibc, or glibc? |
| 14:16.46 | toruvinn | i mean, did someone run some benchmarks? |
| 14:17.33 | schurig | toruvinn: I didn't run, but I guess uclibc is faster. It has less plugins (e.g. no nss_* things), and it uses less code. So it puts less pressure on cache and system RAM |
| 14:17.49 | schurig | toruvinn: but this is just a guess, no evidence |
| 14:19.02 | emte | uclibc still doesnt work for quite a few things i belive |
| 14:19.04 | toruvinn | well, when ram isn't the issue, actually "longer" code might be faster, like when it uses conditional jumps that avoid doing something in some cases |
| 14:20.16 | emte | isnt ram an issue on almost any pda/embedded device? |
| 14:21.19 | toruvinn | i ran some benchmarks on my workstation (intel), but these were only bash things, like long loops (I=0; time while [ $I -lt 100000 ]; do let I++; done), uClibc seemd a bit faster, but i wouldn't rely on that |
| 14:21.56 | toruvinn | emte: let's just assume we have enough memory |
| 14:22.40 | toruvinn | does anyone know some nice and small benchmark progs? i've seen one somewhere, but i don't remember where. ;-/ |
| 14:23.08 | emte | i am working on that, toshiba hasnt sent me any 512 ram chips to stack in my ipaq |
| 14:23.15 | toruvinn | ;-D |
| 14:23.55 | toruvinn | hmm, another broken package. bzip2: /mnt1/zaurus/openembedded/sources/qpf-freemono-1.0.tar.bz2: data integrity (CRC) error in data |
| 14:24.23 | emte | not an oe problem |
| 14:24.51 | emte | you either have fs issues or a poor network connection |
| 14:25.50 | mickeyl | uClibC is faster |
| 14:26.04 | mickeyl | it contains less special treatments for wicked systems |
| 14:26.09 | mickeyl | much less |
| 14:26.35 | toruvinn | ok, i'll try to build uclibc-based images then, thanks. |
| 14:26.47 | zecke | mickeyl: any prediction when Opie is ready for ulibc? |
| 14:27.01 | toruvinn | emte: not really, checked two times, and .md5 matches this file's checksum. |
| 14:27.20 | emte | odd |
| 14:27.29 | treke|home | still could be a network error |
| 14:27.35 | toruvinn | heheh |
| 14:27.45 | treke|home | not like the .md5 is really that reliable |
| 14:28.03 | mickeyl | zecke: in theory it should work. in practice there's still that quicklauncher alignment bug when compiled against uClibC |
| 14:28.14 | mickeyl | i didn't test after andersee submitted some patches though |
| 14:29.48 | treke|home | toruvinn: since the md5 is calculated on the client side, if it doesnt match the file it's time to replace your hard drive really really quickly |
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| 14:31.13 | emte | hmm, so its not getting the md5 off the server? |
| 14:31.27 | toruvinn | treke|home: that explains why i haven't seen bitbake downloading any .md5 files, while they still were there. ;-D thanks. |
| 14:31.38 | treke|home | emte: no it isn't |
| 14:31.44 | hrw|work | toruvinn: all qpf-* cannot be fetched - server where I host them does not work |
| 14:31.51 | emte | what is the use of a local md5 then? |
| 14:31.54 | hrw|work | atleast apache does not work |
| 14:32.01 | treke|home | emte: it serves as an indicator that the download was finished |
| 14:32.39 | emte | thats stilly, why not use a stamp like the other stages? |
| 14:32.41 | kergoth | emte: it wouldnt take much to add a bit of code to compare the local .md5 contents against a stored per-file md5sum in the .bb's SRC_URI. that was always the intent. |
| 14:32.48 | toruvinn | hrw|work: actually, it is available at http://treke.net/oe/source/qpf-freemono-1.0.tar.bz2, but it really seems broken. |
| 14:33.02 | emte | kergoth, ah that makes more semse |
| 14:33.04 | emte | sense* |
| 14:33.30 | treke|home | it was just never written :) |
| 14:33.34 | kergoth | just one of those things no one ever really got around to making happen, despite the fact that itd be pretty easy. low priority |
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| 14:33.56 | toruvinn | what about putting md5 sums into .bb files? |
| 14:34.03 | kergoth | .. |
| 14:34.12 | emte | not really useful |
| 14:34.37 | emte | the same bb might be valid for 20+ packages |
| 14:34.39 | toruvinn | emte: this way treke|home wouldn't blame my fs and/or network connection. ;-) |
| 14:34.54 | kergoth | toruvinn: are you not paying attention? |
| 14:35.02 | kergoth | i just described how it should be |
| 14:35.20 | kergoth | which was storing the correct md5sum as per file attributes in the urls in the SRC_URI variable in the .bb files. |
| 14:35.24 | toruvinn | kergoth: sorry, i was checking another thing. :-/ |
| 14:37.32 | kergoth | i couldnt trust myself to wake up early enough to drop off a check at the apartment office for late rent |
| 14:37.37 | kergoth | so i just stayed up all night instead |
| 14:37.48 | kergoth | i do that too often |
| 14:37.53 | kergoth | (the staying up, not the rent thing0 |
| 14:38.06 | emte | lol |
| 14:38.34 | emte | kergoth, how are you still late paying your rent whne you dont have the excuse that your at work ... |
| 14:38.53 | kergoth | the early morning is nice. refreshing. went to the bank shortly after it opened. its like discovering a time of day i had forgotten existed |
| 14:39.33 | emte | you need to dedicate one of your pda to "Kergoth's Bill Payment Reminder" |
| 14:39.38 | kergoth | yes |
| 14:39.40 | kergoth | indeed |
| 14:39.53 | kergoth | you know that neither opie or gpe can do that the way it needs doing? |
| 14:39.54 | kergoth | its just sad |
| 14:40.05 | kergoth | no recurring todo items that show up on the calandar as alarms. |
| 14:40.07 | emte | yeah i am aware actually :( |
| 14:40.19 | emte | gpe sorta does it ... |
| 14:40.28 | emte | has issues tho |
| 14:40.59 | emte | the calander goes wonky if you do set some and then shut the device down |
| 14:41.39 | emte | i keep trying to convince it to store my class schedule |
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| 14:42.05 | emte | which after a while puts all my classes at 5:30 am |
| 14:42.22 | treke|home | shit rent |
| 14:42.22 | treke|home | ? |
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| 14:47.32 | emte | yeah he is a few days late alright ... |
| 14:47.45 | emte | kergoth, cant you convince your dad to remind you? |
| 14:50.55 | emte | hmm |
| 14:51.03 | emte | my cable is too long ... |
| 14:51.34 | emte | atleast that is what all the girls tell me :) |
| 14:51.56 | emte | just doesnt want to fit in the box |
| 14:54.20 | emte | aha |
| 14:54.27 | emte | got it to fit in a different hole |
| 14:54.42 | treke|home | can't get power to the equipment, eh? |
| 14:54.56 | emte | next time i'll have to not use a coil keyboard cord |
| 14:55.07 | emte | lol |
| 14:55.27 | emte | just trying to fit it in my carry case actually |
| 14:55.42 | emte | we will see if i blow up a PIC later with it |
| 14:56.11 | emte | i must say tho that this keyboard cable is damn heavy duty |
| 14:56.23 | emte | sheilded and foil wrapped |
| 14:56.48 | emte | dell sure did know how to make keyboards |
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| 15:01.00 | XorA | emte: well there had to be one part of DELL's that worked :-) |
| 15:01.25 | emte | dells poweredge servers are great |
| 15:01.36 | emte | their desktops bite |
| 15:01.45 | XorA | emte: my experience with desktops in two different offices is a 20% failure rate |
| 15:02.00 | emte | doesnt supprise me |
| 15:02.11 | emte | they do make a damn good server tho |
| 15:02.33 | CosmicPenguin | Cwiiis: I was expecting an e-mail... :) |
| 15:02.39 | XorA | though I suppose my GFX card cost more than an office Dell :-) |
| 15:02.46 | emte | lol |
| 15:03.46 | Cwiiis | CosmicPenguin: :) http://www.soton.ac.uk/~cil103/gxine.png - Getting there too :) |
| 15:03.58 | CosmicPenguin | sweet |
| 15:06.14 | hrw|work | sometimes I dont like Debian changes.. |
| 15:06.38 | hrw|work | after last update and X restart I got ugly fonts. reconfigured fontconfig |
| 15:06.59 | XorA | hrw|work: I dont like it when they change working upstreams to non working debian packages :-) |
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| 15:11.39 | emte | 385 packages :( |
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| 15:34.20 | treke | I'm not getting the logic of koen's bug tracker post |
| 15:35.07 | treke | someone opens a bug at 2:38am PST, and then because it hasn't been dealt with within 40 minutes no in is paying attention? |
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| 15:35.55 | koen | treke: look at other bugs |
| 15:36.10 | treke | I look at bugs as they come in |
| 15:36.19 | treke | I don't even see a problem with bug 272 |
| 15:36.24 | treke | it's a perfectly valid bug imo |
| 15:36.54 | koen | it's a bug, just not an OE one |
| 15:37.24 | koen | it might be caused by OE, but it should go into the distro or DE bugtracker |
| 15:37.35 | treke | are we shipping keypebble in the feeds? |
| 15:37.58 | koen | it isn't even in OE |
| 15:38.07 | treke | I dont by that |
| 15:38.09 | treke | I added it |
| 15:38.25 | koen | ay yes |
| 15:38.35 | koen | I was doing ls key* |
| 15:38.38 | treke | hell I wrote a howto based off of adding it :p |
| 15:38.55 | koen | it's opie-keypebble |
| 15:39.01 | treke | yup |
| 15:43.00 | treke | the mailing list is too transient a medium for bug reports |
| 15:43.40 | hrw|work | ok. time to go home - maybe I will be today online from there |
| 15:43.54 | koen | how many of the 'core' devs have a RT login? |
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| 15:45.00 | hrw|work | koen: I have |
| 15:45.17 | koen | stuff like "feature foo of application bar breaks" should got to the distro mailinglist |
| 15:45.38 | koen | I don't file a bug against autoconf when someones configure.in breaks |
| 15:46.18 | treke | koen: everyone should |
| 15:46.24 | koen | heh |
| 15:47.30 | treke | that bugtracker is the distro bug tracker for oz. |
| 15:47.30 | koen | que? |
| 15:47.30 | koen | I thought it was the openembedded bugtracker |
| 15:47.30 | treke | OpenEmbedded |
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| 15:48.06 | treke | it's both |
| 15:48.26 | koen | but is it a opie-bugtracker too? |
| 15:49.10 | treke | opie has a bug tracker on a different machine. |
| 15:49.15 | koen | I know that |
| 15:49.19 | treke | we also have ques for opie bugs people find in openembedded |
| 15:49.31 | koen | bug 272 deals with a runtime problem |
| 15:49.40 | treke | yes it does |
| 15:49.50 | koen | on an unknown distro and machine |
| 15:50.12 | treke | it's enough to look into |
| 15:51.10 | koen | that might be |
| 15:51.22 | koen | but the bug still shouldn't be in the OE bugtracker |
| 15:51.28 | XorA | koen: its on a SL6000 running OZ 3.5.2 :-) |
| 15:51.30 | treke | why not? |
| 15:51.38 | treke | XorA: go update the bug |
| 15:51.54 | XorA | treke: I have no login |
| 15:51.57 | treke | rt is not soley for build time bugs |
| 15:52.10 | XorA | the person who files that bug is currently debugging it on #openzaurus |
| 15:52.13 | koen | it should go into the opie/gpe bugtracker first |
| 15:52.37 | koen | when it turns out to be an OE problem it should go into the OE RT |
| 15:52.54 | treke | or another way of looking at it is that there is a bug in our distribution |
| 15:53.00 | treke | so we should have a bug for it |
| 15:53.10 | koen | yes |
| 15:53.12 | treke | and since it's a bug upstream, upstream should be told about it |
| 15:53.21 | treke | so we tell them or the original poster tells them |
| 15:53.28 | koen | but file it in the OZ bugtracker first |
| 15:53.44 | treke | who cares what order they are filed in? |
| 15:55.14 | koen | you're assuming every bug in a distro is related to OE |
| 15:55.17 | koen | it isn't |
| 15:55.38 | treke | no I'm assuming every bug in a distro is related to that distro |
| 15:56.03 | treke | whether or not it's a bug introduced upstream, it is still a bug in oe |
| 15:56.17 | treke | er oz |
| 15:56.27 | koen | indeed, OZ |
| 15:56.37 | koen | so file it in the OZ bugtracker, not OE |
| 15:56.40 | treke | it is. |
| 15:57.02 | koen | then why is it in the OE one too? |
| 15:57.33 | treke | that's the OZ bugtracker. |
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| 15:59.52 | koen | or this bug "libts does not exist in the feed" |
| 15:59.56 | treke | OpenOmbedded |
| 16:00.02 | koen | OE doesn't even have feeds |
| 16:00.02 | treke | "Queue for tracking tickets against the OE metadata repository and OE based distributions." |
| 16:00.14 | CIA-4 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.3208.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:00.14 | CIA-4 | New matchbox releases: |
| 16:00.14 | CIA-4 | -libmatchbox (1.6->1.7) |
| 16:00.14 | CIA-4 | -matchbox-panel (0.9.1->0.9.2) |
| 16:00.14 | CIA-4 | -matchbox-wm (0.9.3->0.9.4) |
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| 16:19.03 | koen | treke: please don't give false info to people reporting bugs |
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| 16:20.15 | treke | koen: huh? |
| 16:20.41 | koen | familiar ships machine spec files and libts isn't machine specific |
| 16:20.48 | koen | tslib-conf is |
| 16:20.53 | koen | not libts |
| 16:23.43 | treke | that would be true |
| 16:23.52 | treke | if you weren't referring to the old releases |
| 16:24.09 | koen | no way off knowing that |
| 16:24.23 | treke | Simple logic |
| 16:24.23 | koen | familiar 0.8.1 has the feed config I quoted |
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| 16:24.44 | treke | user is complaining libts isn't in feed |
| 16:24.57 | treke | openzaurus doesnt ship machine specific packages in feed for older releases |
| 16:25.10 | treke | change was made to make libts non machine specific 11 weeks ago |
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| 16:27.14 | treke | To me it's fairly obvious what the situation with that bug is. |
| 16:27.50 | treke | would it make you happy if I just deleted the bug tracker right now? |
| 16:27.54 | treke | I'll do it if it will |
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| 16:35.29 | koen | it would make me happy, indeed |
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| 16:35.30 | koen | looking at the bugs that don't have responses yet, RT us useless for it intended purpose |
| 16:35.30 | mickeyl | <mickeyl> treke: I think we should let the developers and maintainers vote on that. My personal opinion though is that a bugtracker that is not looked after does more damage than none. And at the present state, I don't think we have the resources to do that. |
| 16:35.30 | mickeyl | so lets go for a simple voting strategy and let the majority decide |
| 16:35.32 | treke | works for me |
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| 18:11.59 | gremlin[it] | good evening to all ;) |
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| 20:46.28 | mickeyl | treke: they're in official/unstable/.3.5.3/ |
| 20:46.31 | mickeyl | note the dot |
| 20:47.05 | treke | I need more usb ports on this new machine |
| 20:47.16 | mickeyl | how many you have ? |
| 20:47.21 | CosmicPenguin | hubs are your friend |
| 20:47.28 | treke | 4 |
| 20:47.34 | mickeyl | yeah 4 can get too few |
| 20:47.35 | treke | CosmicPenguin: yeah |
| 20:47.44 | treke | my home machine had something like 8 on it |
| 20:48.00 | CosmicPenguin | My monitor has a 4 port hub in it |
| 20:48.09 | treke | but that was a Genuine Intel (tm) |
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| 20:49.01 | mickeyl | *cough* |
| 20:49.04 | mickeyl | don't use that term |
| 20:49.09 | treke | hehe |
| 20:49.18 | mickeyl | been getting reminded at wimpies damn addition to odevice |
| 20:49.26 | mickeyl | *shaking head* |
| 20:49.31 | treke | oh |
| 20:49.35 | treke | dont remember that :p |
| 20:49.36 | Pigi | mickeyl, why not ? intel is not so bad, unless it is linked with "that other word".... |
| 20:49.38 | koen|tv | wimpie added usbports to odevice? |
| 20:49.39 | koen|tv | cool |
| 20:50.04 | mickeyl | he pushed a GenuineIntel class to ODevice without letting us convince him that it wasn't actually needed |
| 20:50.07 | mickeyl | worse even, he called it like that |
| 20:50.10 | mickeyl | tsss |
| 20:50.14 | treke | ah now I remember |
| 20:50.52 | treke | I still look for a sharp object anytime I think of the odevice for the yopy |
| 20:51.05 | Pigi | ehehehe |
| 20:51.14 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 20:57.02 | treke | mickeyl: what kernel is this build using? |
| 20:57.49 | mickeyl | opie: 2.6 |
| 20:57.51 | mickeyl | gpe: 2.4 |
| 20:57.57 | treke | sweet |
| 20:58.09 | treke | gpe can't handle 2.6 yet? |
| 20:58.23 | mickeyl | no, but don't ask me what problems there are |
| 20:58.30 | mickeyl | never did actually some tests |
| 20:58.39 | mickeyl | XorA and koen may now |
| 20:58.44 | mickeyl | know, even |
| 20:58.44 | treke | odd |
| 21:02.57 | koen|tv | suspending and (most likely) X and 2.6 aren't big friends |
| 21:09.24 | jbowler | The ipkg (RDEPENDS) module dependences don't work at present with 2.6 kernels - may explain quite a lot of problems. |
| 21:10.42 | treke | ? |
| 21:10.55 | treke | how would ipkg break on 2.6? |
| 21:11.24 | jbowler | kernel.bbclass pattern matches for '*.o' - no support for '*.ko' therefore no auto-generated RDEPENDS |
| 21:11.42 | koen|tv | didn't someone send a patch for that last week? |
| 21:11.46 | jbowler | Also the new depmod (used only with 2.6?) generates different format output. |
| 21:12.14 | jbowler | I have a patch, which I need to push to nslu2. There's no fix in OE as of yesterday. |
| 21:12.28 | treke | wouldnt break anything in openzaurus anyways :) |
| 21:12.40 | mickeyl | right, it doesn't break because of modules |
| 21:12.53 | mickeyl | all important stuff is built i |
| 21:12.53 | mickeyl | n |
| 21:13.22 | koen|tv | "thanks" to the bootloader |
| 21:13.29 | jbowler | It's tricky - I can't test on 2.4 'cause nothing I have both uses it and builds a kernel. Still the only break would be that RDEPENDS would disappear from somewhere already working... |
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| 21:16.53 | reenoo | evening |
| 21:19.00 | jbowler | looks like someone (kergoth) just synced up nslu2-linux.bkbits.net - 29 revisions to conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.6.inc since yesterday. |
| 21:19.42 | jbowler | Still, kernel.bbclass (on nslu2-linux) is still resolutely looking for rootfs/lib/.../.*\.o |
| 21:21.30 | reenoo | jbowler: preferred-gpe-versions-2.6.inc refers to gpe 2.6 not linux 2.6. and the revisions are due to a bk cp |
| 21:22.03 | jbowler | Ah! Thanks - I was worried that changes were being delayed (back to Feb 12... ;-) |
| 21:22.55 | jbowler | I believe the two repositories (OE and NSLUE) are actually synchronised very regularly. |
| 21:23.36 | treke | anyone done anything cool with an nsl2u? |
| 21:24.38 | jbowler | What's cool? It's a system with no standard (kbd etc) IO, so it's a file server or a compiler server... |
| 21:25.25 | jbowler | openslug will run out of the RAM/flash, so that's a small cheapish (USD80) box which can be plugged in anywhere. |
| 21:26.54 | koen | dibs on ipkg |
| 21:27.19 | Pigi | dibs ? what's dibs ? |
| 21:27.40 | koen | something like "me first" |
| 21:28.43 | jbowler | ? |
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| 21:29.20 | Pigi | that's nice. No translation found for dibs :) |
| 21:31.03 | koen | Pigi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dibs |
| 21:32.15 | Pigi | koen, you rock :) |
| 21:32.22 | Pigi | ~hail koen |
| 21:32.24 | ibot | ACTION bows down to koen and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 21:37.30 | mickeyl | ~lart BT0100M |
| 21:37.43 | mickeyl | stupid bt cf card is refusing to work |
| 21:38.10 | zecke_ | mickeyl: what does not work? |
| 21:38.16 | zecke_ | mickeyl: you need to use hciattach? |
| 21:38.34 | mickeyl | doesn't get recognized |
| 21:38.41 | mickeyl | lots of h4_recv: unrecognized packet type xx |
| 21:38.43 | zecke_ | mickeyl: not even as serial? |
| 21:38.44 | mickeyl | in dmesg |
| 21:38.48 | koen | mickeyl: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:tgtESvKHibAJ:www.kiwi-hacker.net/BlueMonkey.phtml+bluemonkey+kiwi-hacker&hl=nl&client=safari |
| 21:38.52 | koen | works like a charm over here |
| 21:39.13 | mickeyl | koen: yeah i've seen that, I'm afraid though that I have a rebranded model that's slightly different |
| 21:39.22 | mickeyl | name is "Digitus Bluetooth card" |
| 21:39.24 | koen | aha |
| 21:39.29 | mickeyl | never heard about this company :) |
| 21:39.32 | mickeyl | some noname oem |
| 21:39.35 | mickeyl | s/oem/reseller/ |
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| 21:41.54 | mimecar | hi |
| 21:42.13 | mimecar | what languages can I use with oe ? |
| 21:42.41 | CoreDump|home | hmm? |
| 21:42.53 | mickeyl | oe is a distribution, hardly localized |
| 21:42.59 | mickeyl | better ask for the GUI environments |
| 21:43.07 | mickeyl | in that case... |
| 21:43.13 | mickeyl | #openzaurus or #handhelds.org |
| 21:43.15 | mimecar | I know oe integrate some gui |
| 21:43.26 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:43.30 | mimecar | thanks mickeyl |
| 21:43.33 | mickeyl | np |
| 21:46.13 | mickeyl | hmm bind hci_uart or bind serial ? |
| 21:46.19 | mickeyl | where's the difference? |
| 21:46.28 | koen | serial |
| 21:46.34 | mickeyl | k |
| 21:46.52 | koen | hci_uart needs a uart, your cf card might not provide one |
| 21:49.58 | mickeyl | looks like those bluemonkey cards are pretty common |
| 21:50.06 | Pigi | time to sleep |
| 21:50.07 | mickeyl | we should add 'em in pcmcia/bluetooth.conf |
| 21:50.07 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3214 10openembedded/packages/ipkg/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add ipkg 0.99.148, courtesy Pierluigi Frullani |
| 21:50.08 | Pigi | nite all |
| 21:50.11 | Pigi | ehehe |
| 21:50.12 | mickeyl | n8 pigi |
| 21:50.15 | koen | 'night Pigi |
| 21:55.04 | zecke_ | mickeyl: OT: I really like your 2.6 OZ start screen |
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| 21:55.23 | koen | zecke_: any pictures of that |
| 21:55.26 | koen | ? |
| 21:55.31 | mickeyl | :) |
| 21:55.36 | zecke_ | koen: use opie ;) |
| 21:55.43 | zecke_ | mickeyl: you should put your face there |
| 21:55.48 | mickeyl | good idea |
| 21:55.50 | mickeyl | for next time |
| 21:55.54 | mickeyl | it works for you? |
| 21:56.00 | mickeyl | i'm getting heaps of errors here |
| 21:57.39 | mickeyl | hmm either my images are broken or something else |
| 21:57.39 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 21:58.55 | vol | hey guys |
| 21:59.40 | vol | ive talked with someone who has uclinux running on a tmobile sidekick |
| 21:59.56 | vol | id like to get it into oe |
| 22:03.04 | vol | he is able to make calls, needs usb support and gprs work done |
| 22:04.38 | koen | slightly OT: who has a blog and blogs about handhelds stuff once a while? |
| 22:04.57 | mickeyl | once in a while |
| 22:05.27 | koen | hh.org is considering hosting a planet.handhelds.org to consolidate those blogs |
| 22:05.43 | Cwiiis | mickeyl: Apparently the updater.sh doesn't work with poodle |
| 22:06.06 | Cwiiis | Ratatu seems the updater.sh works |
| 22:06.06 | Cwiiis | Ratatu um |
| 22:06.06 | Cwiiis | Ratatu no |
| 22:06.06 | Cwiiis | Ratatu it doesn't |
| 22:06.06 | Cwiiis | Ratatu it erases the file system and reboots |
| 22:06.39 | mickeyl | okay, then try the one from oz 3.5.2 and rename the kernel image to 'zImage' |
| 22:07.06 | mickeyl | i dunno who made the unified updater but it looks broken. probably doesn't take the poodle differences into account |
| 22:07.16 | reenoo | koen: you know my blog already... it also has (currently empty) openembedded/familiar and gpe categories |
| 22:07.30 | mickeyl | treke: i think all my c7x0 stuff is broken |
| 22:07.31 | mickeyl | i removed it |
| 22:07.32 | mickeyl | and rebuilt |
| 22:07.39 | treke | mickeyl: ah |
| 22:07.40 | mickeyl | rebuild even |
| 22:07.49 | mickeyl | looks like i did too many things at once :/ |
| 22:07.51 | treke | dumped it on my cf card but havent flashed yet |
| 22:07.55 | koen | reenoo: You're on the list already, as well as hrw|gone |
| 22:07.56 | mickeyl | don't bother |
| 22:08.06 | reenoo | koen: ok, cool |
| 22:08.15 | treke | ok |
| 22:08.20 | treke | ping me when you get a working build |
| 22:08.24 | mickeyl | will do |
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| 22:13.38 | vol | heh, seems no one is interested in a sidekick running linux :/ |
| 22:13.58 | Cwiiis | mickeyl: The one from 3.5.2 works, apparently |
| 22:14.05 | mickeyl | Cwiiis: ok, good to hear |
| 22:14.34 | mickeyl | vol: neither do I know what I sidekick is nor do I have one. Adding a new target machine to oe is a good thing though. send the patches to oe@handhelds.org. |
| 22:14.39 | mickeyl | s/I/a/ |
| 22:15.07 | mickeyl | Cwiiis: i need a 'go' for all three images types |
| 22:15.11 | mickeyl | bootstrap,opie,gpe |
| 22:15.12 | koen | mickeyl: where is your blog? Looking at vanille.de I can't pinpoint it |
| 22:15.12 | vol | sidekick is a tmobile phone, uses gprs, full qwerty keyboard |
| 22:15.26 | mickeyl | koen: http://vanille.de/personality/captainslog.spy |
| 22:15.27 | mickeyl | beware... |
| 22:15.29 | mickeyl | it's german |
| 22:15.30 | mickeyl | :D |
| 22:15.58 | treke | I'm always wary of germans |
| 22:16.17 | mickeyl | heh |
| 22:16.24 | vol | Cwiiis, i would like to help with gpe dev... i have a 5600 so i can do testing there for you |
| 22:16.45 | mickeyl | that'd be appreciated. there are very few poodle owners actually helping us |
| 22:16.46 | Cwiiis | mickeyl: The person testing it's wifi card doesn't work with the 3.5.3 images... It did with 3.5.2, any ideas or things to try? |
| 22:17.01 | mickeyl | Cwiiis: not really. dmesg? |
| 22:17.20 | vol | i got some more ram being shipped to me so i can do some builds, i have oe setup but cant get through a build with only 256mb ram |
| 22:17.21 | Cwiiis | mickeyl: Good idea, I'll ask and see if we can come up with anything |
| 22:17.22 | mickeyl | iirc we just upgraded the hostap driver a couple of revisions |
| 22:17.25 | koen | mickeyl: it takes more than a little german to scare me :) |
| 22:17.32 | mickeyl | hah :) |
| 22:20.19 | treke | I dunno that's a lot of german |
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| 22:23.14 | Crofton_ | When I try to bk pull it says the repo is locked by RESYNC directory |
| 22:23.29 | mickeyl | read the log |
| 22:23.32 | mickeyl | bk abort |
| 22:23.34 | mickeyl | try again |
| 22:23.42 | Crofton_ | thanks |
| 22:25.22 | Crofton_ | just when I get used to bk, I have to learn something else ... |
| 22:26.13 | mickeyl | stuff like that usually happens when you have edited files |
| 22:26.18 | mickeyl | uncommited changes |
| 22:26.26 | mickeyl | which conflict with something which has done in the changeset |
| 22:26.32 | mickeyl | then bk won't override your edited files |
| 22:26.33 | Crofton_ | yeah, I am trying to fix that ... |
| 22:26.36 | mickeyl | which is actually a good thing |
| 22:26.45 | mickeyl | lets not talk about it :/ |
| 22:26.51 | Crofton_ | ok |
| 22:27.33 | mickeyl | time to sleep anyway |
| 22:27.35 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 22:27.39 | Crofton_ | l8r |
| 22:28.35 | CIA-4 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.3213.1.1 10openembedded/packages/gxine/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:28.35 | CIA-4 | Add enhancement patch for gxine, along with new bb - make it the default. |
| 22:28.35 | CIA-4 | See the Changelog inside the patch for details. |
| 22:30.14 | CosmicPenguin | mmm... gxine |
| 22:30.26 | CosmicPenguin | If its less resource intensive then totem, I'm sold |
| 22:30.37 | Cwiiis | CosmicPenguin: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21837.png / http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21993.png |
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| 22:30.51 | Cwiiis | CosmicPenguin: Runs nicely on my collie, so I think it's ok :) |
| 22:30.55 | Ratatu | hi all |
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| 22:33.13 | CosmicPenguin | Nice - I'll give it a once over on the x86 |
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| 23:11.03 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 23:12.31 | koen | rm'ing a tmpdir after a multimachine world buid takes a very loooooooooong time |
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| 23:14.56 | Cwiiis | koen: ext3? :) |
| 23:15.10 | koen | Cwiiis: xfs over a u320 scsi disk |
| 23:16.09 | koen | Cwiiis: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/phpsysinfo/ |
| 23:17.18 | Cwiiis | koen: Oh, fair enough! That should be pretty speedy then? |
| 23:17.57 | koen | it is |
| 23:18.09 | koen | it can build packages faster than I can drink my coffee |
| 23:18.23 | koen | (except for ggc/glibc and friends) |
| 23:18.29 | koen | s/ggc/gcc/ |
| 23:19.24 | Cwiiis | I could do with something like that... |
| 23:19.30 | Cwiiis | and a corgi :p hehe |
| 23:20.08 | koen | a husky or boxer would be a lot better |
| 23:20.16 | koen | a corgi only has 32mb of ram... |
| 23:20.47 | Cwiiis | ah, I meant husky I think rather than corgi :p |
| 23:20.50 | Cwiiis | ~husky |
| 23:20.51 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, husky is Sharp Zaurus SL-C760 or a dog |
| 23:20.56 | koen | ~akita |
| 23:20.58 | ibot | rumour has it, akita is the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog |
| 23:20.58 | Cwiiis | yes, husky or boxer :) |
| 23:42.01 | vol | Cwiiis, ill test any poodle images you want me to |
| 23:42.12 | vol | i can start building them once i fix my desktop |
| 23:43.08 | Cwiiis | vol: mickeyl has built poodle images - it seems my build system is still a little dodgy for poodle, so I'll just point you to his :p |
| 23:43.46 | koen | 'night all |
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