| 00:04.19 | reenoo_ | pb_: removing the libpcre.la from staging works around the problem for me |
| 00:05.05 | reenoo_ | pb_: I haven't checked why that would do it |
| 00:05.37 | pb_ | I think that's probably a different variant of the problem. |
| 00:07.08 | reenoo_ | possibly |
| 00:08.16 | reenoo_ | I looked at jscore's configure.ac/Makefile.am and couldn't find anything obviously bogus although it seemed somewhat hack'ish |
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| 00:10.30 | pb_ | I think the problem is that it ends up with -I${STAGING_DIR}/include before -I../pcre on the compiler command line. It's probably some bad interaction between CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS, and the OE environment variables. |
| 00:11.26 | pb_ | Just zapping CPPFLAGS in the .bb file probably stands a fair chance of clearing it up. |
| 00:11.50 | rwhitby | JustinP: I've commited the change to nslu2-linux, and it should be propagated to oe in the next 15 minutes |
| 00:12.03 | rwhitby | Again, *big* apologies to everyone for that stuff-up. |
| 00:13.18 | rwhitby | I *really* need a recipe which can show the diff between the result of a merge and each of the two ancestors, so that I can triple check a manual merge, cause it seems that double-checking during the merge it wasn't good enough. |
| 00:13.28 | reenoo_ | rwhitby: personally, I'd be glad if you could send a short analysis of what happened and how to avoid it to oe@ |
| 00:13.59 | rwhitby | reenoo_: the trouble is that I don't know how it happened, other than that it must have been PEBKAC. |
| 00:14.14 | rwhitby | But I will send the message. |
| 00:14.17 | reenoo_ | rwhitby: ah, too bad |
| 00:14.54 | reenoo_ | pb_: at least that doesn't break anything here |
| 00:15.09 | reenoo_ | JustinP: does that work for you as well? |
| 00:15.36 | JustinP | reenoo_: Adding CPPFLAGS = "" to the bb file? Trying that now. |
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| 00:15.56 | JustinP | yep, seems to work fine |
| 00:17.10 | JustinP | compiles and packages fine |
| 00:17.20 | JustinP | now what was I trying to compile that that had broken... |
| 00:18.12 | reenoo_ | JustinP: ok, I'll check that in then |
| 00:18.18 | reenoo_ | ~praise pb_ |
| 00:18.18 | ibot | All hail pb_! |
| 00:18.50 | JustinP | ah...gpe-mini-browser |
| 00:19.04 | JustinP | reenoo_: shall I close the bug or will you? |
| 00:19.50 | reenoo_ | I'll take care of that once I've checked in the fix |
| 00:21.58 | JustinP | ok |
| 00:25.58 | pb_ | reenoo_: heh |
| 00:35.37 | rwhitby | reenoo_: email sent to oe@ |
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| 00:38.31 | reenoo_ | rwhitby: thanks. maybe that will help me understand monotone's merging weirdness a bit better ;) |
| 00:38.55 | rwhitby | reenoo_: didn't help me :-( |
| 00:44.39 | JustinP | I sent an response with my solution |
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| 00:45.47 | rwhitby | JustinP: thx |
| 00:47.59 | JustinP | rwhitby: np. AFAIK as long as there are no possible criss-cross problems it should work...and since you're explicitly propagating it seems ok to me....Of course I could be wrong... |
| 00:49.17 | rwhitby | I will try and work on a makefile target for our nslu2-linux master makefile which we can use to do a diff after the propagate to triple-check. |
| 00:49.45 | JustinP | ok |
| 00:49.51 | JustinP | (master makefile?) |
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| 00:53.16 | rwhitby-away | JustinP: www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile - allows people starting nslu2-linux development to say "mkdir -p /home/slug ; cd /home/slug ; wget http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile ; make setup ; make build" and everything gets set up and built. |
| 00:53.41 | rwhitby-away | it also has all our monotone convenience targets in it, so we are all using it in the same way across the project. |
| 00:54.15 | jbowler-away | something strange is going on in nonworking/lftp - I got a curious situation where, despite still being in non-working, it has had internal changes on both the .dev and the .nslu2-linux branch I merged both changes into the file. |
| 00:55.33 | NAiL | heh |
| 01:23.50 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
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| 02:30.08 | NAiL | is vanille down? |
| 02:30.20 | NAiL | I get ping, but mtn doesn't seem to respond |
| 02:36.30 | NAiL | now it appears to have awakened |
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| 03:17.49 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 04:48.56 | kergoth | "I have no gate key." |
| 04:48.59 | kergoth | "Fezzik, rip his arms off." |
| 04:49.05 | kergoth | "Oh, you mean _this_ gate key." |
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| 05:52.30 | JustinP | kergoth: "Anyone want a peanut?" |
| 05:53.03 | fontenot | princess bride quote? |
| 05:57.19 | koobla | hi all! |
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| 06:03.21 | luzik | hi |
| 06:03.36 | luzik | i can't find #openzaurs so i am here |
| 06:04.16 | luzik | it is posible to rsync [for begin] OZ feed? |
| 06:04.58 | luzik | i want to put OZ in mirrow in Poland |
| 06:05.50 | luzik | s/mirrow/mirror |
| 06:08.49 | luzik | mickey|TV: ? |
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| 07:02.08 | koobla | is there an arm devel. channel out there? |
| 07:02.26 | koobla | my drivers keep bugging me |
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| 07:28.05 | XorA | morning |
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| 07:32.33 | koobla | hi XorA |
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| 07:53.39 | hrw|gone | luzik: ping |
| 07:53.46 | hrw|work | morning people |
| 07:55.37 | do13 | morning hrw|work |
| 07:57.27 | XorA | morning hrw|work |
| 07:57.49 | XorA | bah, bitbake doesnt automatically delete pr0n to make space for code :-) |
| 07:58.02 | hrw|work | XorA: write bbclass for it |
| 07:58.35 | XorA | hrw|work: that works apart from irda and RNDIS |
| 07:59.32 | hrw|work | XorA: I need usbnet and wifi working - 2.6.13-rc3-mm1 == no wifi/hostap |
| 08:00.06 | XorA | hrw|work: both those work with 2.6.12 |
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| 08:01.33 | hrw|work | I know |
| 08:01.39 | hrw|work | and thats why I'm reverting |
| 08:06.13 | XorA | hrw|work: do you have any irda kit? |
| 08:07.36 | hrw|work | XorA: nokia 6310i, palm m105, zaurus sl-5500 |
| 08:08.51 | XorA | hrw|work: would be nice if you could double check irda on 2.6.12-mm1 as its perfectly possible I did it wrong |
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| 08:09.12 | hrw|work | XorA: if find time then can look |
| 08:13.53 | RP | morning all |
| 08:17.03 | do13 | morning RP |
| 08:17.35 | RP | reverting to 2.6.12-mm1 ? :-/ That sounds bad. I wish I could spend more time and fix this... |
| 08:20.27 | hrw|work | RP: hostap does not work with 2.6.13-rc3-mm1 |
| 08:20.40 | XorA | btw does anyone think it would be a good idea to change module naming to debian style? that way kernels can be swapped by a quick reflash |
| 08:20.44 | RP | hrw|work: I know :-( |
| 08:20.49 | hrw|work | RP: and I have too much work to look more into it |
| 08:21.13 | RP | hrw|work: You and me both... |
| 08:22.31 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:22.49 | RP | and spent most of last night trying fixes that didn't make any difference or made things worse... |
| 08:22.52 | RP | morning koen |
| 08:23.07 | XorA | we need some VC to start up an Angstrom company then some of us can work full time |
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| 08:25.04 | RP | XorA: Its a nice idea |
| 08:28.03 | hrw|work | how long will initial checkout take? |
| 08:29.22 | koen | hrw|work: veeeeeeeeeeery long |
| 08:29.31 | koen | hrw|work: use the snapshot db |
| 08:29.40 | hrw|work | ok |
| 08:30.05 | hrw|work | could you add url to int into MonotonePhraseBook? |
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| 08:30.40 | hrw|work | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OE.db.bz2 ? |
| 08:30.40 | koen | It's already in GettingStarted |
| 08:30.44 | hrw|work | aha |
| 08:30.50 | koen | that's the url |
| 08:31.00 | koen | if you wait 2mins I'll update it |
| 08:31.08 | koen | done |
| 08:35.51 | luzik | hrw|work: pong |
| 08:35.55 | luzik | hrw|work: hi :) |
| 08:37.10 | do13 | RP: Do you have CONFIG_MMC_BULKTRANSFER enabled? |
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| 08:37.37 | Bernardo | hi! |
| 08:38.32 | hrw|work | luzik: where you want to mirror OZ? |
| 08:39.10 | luzik | hrw|work: in task |
| 08:39.27 | luzik | hrw|work: ftp://ftp.task.gda.pl |
| 08:39.47 | hrw|work | luzik: official one? |
| 08:39.57 | hrw|work | luzik: sf.net does not allow rsync |
| 08:40.13 | luzik | hrw|work: :/ |
| 08:40.29 | luzik | hrw|work: any another ideas? |
| 08:42.19 | hrw|work | luzik: scp from shell.sf.net account |
| 08:42.33 | hrw|work | thats the method which I use to update upgrades feed |
| 08:43.15 | luzik | hrw|work: ok i'll ask my ftpadmins for scp |
| 08:43.21 | luzik | hrw|work: with keys yes? |
| 08:43.37 | luzik | hrw|work: it must be full automatic |
| 08:45.11 | hrw|work | luzik: other option is talk with one of our mirrors admin - maybe someone allow rsync |
| 08:47.27 | koen | hrw|work: If you can login, you can rsync over ssh |
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| 08:50.55 | hrw|work | koen: didnt know.. |
| 08:51.12 | luzik | hrw|work: yes .. my ftpadmins just tell me the same |
| 08:51.35 | luzik | hrw|work: you have shell there? |
| 08:52.03 | luzik | hmm .. but no one give us ssh keys :/ |
| 08:52.33 | hrw|work | luzik: anyone can create sf.net account |
| 08:52.49 | luzik | hrw|work: with shell? |
| 08:55.26 | hrw|work | yes |
| 08:59.10 | luzik | hrw|work: where i can find mirrors admins list? |
| 08:59.15 | luzik | hrw|work: how are you :) |
| 09:03.18 | CIA-2 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r5f72a960... 10/packages/ccxstream/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ccxstream package from kolla |
| 09:03.23 | CIA-2 | 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r10517186... 10/.mt-attrs: Committing executable flag for cyrus startup script. |
| 09:03.26 | CIA-2 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r3b2d465c... 10/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Reinstated freyther's patch which I inadvertently reverted during a spurious monotone merge :-( |
| 09:03.30 | CIA-2 | 03kolla 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r08db957f... 10/packages/ccxstream/ccxstream_1.0.15.bb: Fixed to use proper variables and install -d instead of mkdir |
| 09:03.34 | CIA-2 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r9ec15bcf... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Added more development packages to OpenSlug feed |
| 09:03.38 | CIA-2 | 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rb1ad57ce... 10/packages/cyrus-sasl/cyrus-sasl_2.1.19.bb: Make call to saslpasswd2 more conformant to documentation (adding -p). |
| 09:03.42 | CIA-2 | 03kolla 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rd5ca2d90... 10/packages/ccxstream/ccxstream_1.0.15.bb: Wasnt aware of PR... bear with me |
| 09:03.46 | CIA-2 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * ra0c6e9d6... 10/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: |
| 09:03.47 | CIA-2 | To avoid further errors this is a manual copy of the current |
| 09:03.47 | CIA-2 | classes/tinderclient.bbclass (which includes the de-reverted change) from |
| 09:03.47 | CIA-2 | org.openembedded.dev |
| 09:03.50 | CIA-2 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc05a9375... 10/packages/flex/ (4 files in 2 dirs): flex: add patch for flex bug 720976 |
| 09:03.54 | CIA-2 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5ae8db07... 10/packages/ (6 files in 5 dirs): add teTeX - a complete TeX distribution for UNIX compatible systems |
| 09:03.59 | CIA-2 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rea784b81... 10/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Manually redo: http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=2c3b323f578c3e3f368933af2777b403d390143d |
| 09:04.03 | CIA-2 | 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r7e76b182... 10/packages/bwmon/ (bwmon_1.3.bb files/makefile.patch): Added package bwmon (Linux bandwidth monitor) |
| 09:04.07 | CIA-2 | 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r224d1821... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Add bwmon |
| 09:04.11 | CIA-2 | 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r918d376e... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Add ccxstream and bwmon |
| 09:04.15 | CIA-2 | 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r9ef371d5... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Added ccxstream |
| 09:04.19 | CIA-2 | 03daka 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rd24be3dd... 10/packages/perl/ (perl-5.8.7/config.sh-i386-linux perl_5.8.7.bb): Add untested i386 config.sh for perl for OE-Bug:#196 |
| 09:05.22 | koen | good morning mickey|TV |
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| 09:08.57 | luzik | ok i found mirrors list |
| 09:10.41 | koen | hrw|work: I listed the monotone backupservers to in GettingStarted |
| 09:12.40 | hrw|work | ok |
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| 09:21.23 | RP | do13: No, that would probably help wouldn't it :) |
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| 09:22.05 | RP | do13: I also can't get the SD code from 2.6.13-rc4-mm1 to work... |
| 09:23.42 | do13 | RP: This option should boost the write speed |
| 09:24.15 | do13 | RP: What's the problem with 2.6.13-rc4-mm1 SD code? |
| 09:25.34 | RP | do13: I don't know. It doesn't seem to show my SD card though. I need to investigate... |
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| 09:43.57 | startoe | Hi, how can I make sure the glibc headers is installed properly? |
| 09:44.06 | startoe | in fc3 |
| 09:46.21 | startoe | I got glibc-devel-2.3.5-0.fc3.1, does this mean I am okay with the glibc headers? |
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| 10:25.59 | CIA-2 | 03nslu2-linux 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r846ca47e... 10/conf/distro/ucslugc-packages.conf: Added bwmon to ucslugc-packages.conf |
| 10:26.03 | CIA-2 | 03nslu2-linux 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r0aca9d0e... 10/conf/distro/ucslugc-packages.conf: Added ccxstream to ucslugc-packagaes.conf |
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| 11:13.59 | zecke_ | hey |
| 11:14.04 | zecke_ | rwhitby-away: hey ;) |
| 11:29.49 | zecke_ | rwhitby-away: At least I now know I actually pushed the change |
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| 11:34.10 | CIA-2 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rd16bc244... 10/packages/gqview/ (gqview-2.1.1/include-path-fix.patch gqview_2.1.1.bb): gqview: added version 2.1.1 of this graphics viewer. |
| 11:42.19 | CIA-2 | 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r8893b764... 10/packages/gtk-webcore/osb-jscore_20050430.bb: osb-jscore: zap CPPFLAGS. fixes bug #198. thanks to pb_ for the hint. |
| 11:43.37 | pb_ | hail zecke |
| 11:43.47 | pb_ | zecke_, too |
| 11:44.51 | zecke_ | pb_: fear the power of clone(2) |
| 11:45.33 | zecke_ | the world thinks we're two ;) but we share the same memory and genetic program |
| 11:45.35 | pb_ | seems more like vfork() in effect |
| 11:45.42 | pb_ | zecke is paused while zecke_ runs |
| 11:45.59 | zecke_ | pb_: the matrix has one processor per process ;) |
| 11:46.05 | pb_ | heh |
| 11:46.21 | zecke_ | pb_: they make you believe zecke is currently paused |
| 11:46.32 | pb_ | oh dear |
| 11:46.35 | pb_ | I guess the matrix has me. |
| 11:51.10 | pb_ | ibot, botmail for reenoo: regarding bug 198 again, I wonder if we should just have autotools.bbclass stomp on CPPFLAGS as standard. |
| 12:02.58 | Twiun | pb_: would you happen to know anything about a company called Sangoma? |
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| 12:07.58 | pb_ | Twiun: the telephony people? I've heard of them, but that's about as far as it goes. |
| 12:08.34 | Twiun | pb_: more than I had ;) |
| 12:08.40 | Twiun | pb_: well... as of the weekend anyway |
| 12:09.17 | Twiun | pb_: I'll be buying their entry-level adsl pci card ;) |
| 12:09.34 | pb_ | ah, right, cool |
| 12:09.35 | Twiun | pb_: their linux support looks to be very good |
| 12:09.56 | pb_ | yeah, they're pretty well established in the WAN/ATM/DSL market. There are linux drivers for most of their boards. |
| 12:10.59 | pb_ | they are indeed not a budget solution, though. You can buy a cheap DSL PCI card for about 10GBP these days. |
| 12:11.34 | pb_ | I imagine the linux driver situation for those is a bit sketchy though. |
| 12:12.59 | Twiun | yeah, I'm also looking at durability - I've gone through 2 routers in 2 years |
| 12:13.06 | Twiun | I'm getting tired of off-the-shelf shite |
| 12:20.17 | pb_ | right |
| 12:20.39 | pb_ | we're using d-link dsl routers here at the office, which seem to be more-or-less ok. |
| 12:20.49 | Noodles | My parents use one of the PCI ADSL cards with Linux. |
| 12:20.58 | Noodles | There's a big binary blob, but by and large it seems to work. |
| 12:21.45 | Twiun | I've even uncovered a linux distro specifically for the job and for that card - for ADSL bonding ;) |
| 12:21.45 | pb_ | When we first started using these routers they needed rebooting about once a week, but that seems to have gotten better now. I don't think I've restarted either of them for a couple of months. |
| 12:22.10 | Noodles | I use a USB Speedtouch. None of the off the shelf affordable routers do native IPv6. |
| 12:22.13 | CIA-2 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r0eaad42e... 10/packages/gpe-dm/ (files/Xserver-spitz.patch gpe-dm_0.47.bb): Add patch to support Sharp Spitz. |
| 12:22.30 | pb_ | yeah, that sucks, but our ISP doesn't do native IPv6 either. |
| 12:22.35 | Noodles | Mine does. ;) |
| 12:22.43 | pb_ | I guess I should write to them and complain or something. |
| 12:22.45 | BigAl | Twiun: Does the card you're looking at have open source drivers? |
| 12:29.13 | Twiun | BigAl: yeah, as a set of patches |
| 12:29.53 | Twiun | BigAl: Oh, and also the raw source |
| 12:30.03 | Twiun | BigAl: straight off their ftp server (and not just for linux) |
| 12:31.18 | BigAl | Twiun: Cool.. I've been looking for an ADSL card with open source drivers for a while.. Binary only drivers tend not to work on a Sparc. |
| 12:32.11 | hrw|busy | hmm.. I think I should start to look for ipv6 support from my isp too |
| 12:32.25 | Bernardo|meeting | BigAl: the speedtouch has open source drivers, it's only the firmware that is binary |
| 12:34.52 | Twiun | Bernardo|meeting: yeah, same with the sangoma, the firmware comes in the tarball but also looks like a blob |
| 12:35.19 | Twiun | 5mb tarball... |
| 12:35.50 | BigAl | Hopefully one of those will work in australia. |
| 12:38.03 | Twiun | BigAl: maybe get the sources and see what they look like before shelling out too much on the cards? |
| 12:39.27 | Twiun | BigAl: ftp://ftp.sangoma.com/Solaris/ |
| 12:39.37 | Twiun | BigAl: dunno about the speedtouch ones though |
| 12:40.07 | Noodles | The Speedtouch driver is in the stock kernel. |
| 12:42.10 | BigAl | Twiun: Thanks, I'll check it out. |
| 12:42.48 | Twiun | BigAl: hopefully I'll be able to test mine out tomorrow and let you know how it goes |
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| 12:48.41 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
| 12:50.16 | mickeyl | morning pb_ |
| 12:53.47 | hrw|busy | hi mickeyl |
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| 13:04.47 | Bernardo | XorA: I had to switch to the kernel drivers one month ago, after one year using them I couldn't get the userspace drivers to work one day |
| 13:05.30 | XorA | Bernardo: :-( |
| 13:05.31 | Crofton|laptop | I still can't get gcc-cross-initial to load the source needed from savannah |
| 13:05.44 | Crofton|laptop | whst is this CVS_TARBALL_STASH way? |
| 13:05.49 | XorA | Bernardo: now I have the newer Speedtouch that ive never taken out of box and an X-Modem which I use |
| 13:07.21 | mickeyl | CVS_TARBALL_STASH is a SRC_URI mirror that - when enabled - tries to download things from a mirror instead of fetching from cvs |
| 13:08.05 | Crofton|laptop | hmm |
| 13:08.19 | Crofton|laptop | So I would need to know where to find the offending file |
| 13:09.11 | Crofton|laptop | or shoudl I just prefer a different version maybe |
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| 14:09.10 | Twiun | hey kergoth |
| 14:09.15 | kergoth | hey |
| 14:09.23 | kergoth | ~mornings |
| 14:09.23 | ibot | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 14:09.29 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 14:09.29 | ibot | aw, gee, kergoth |
| 14:09.38 | koen | hey kergoth |
| 14:09.56 | koen | it feels like a monday |
| 14:09.59 | koen | ~mondays |
| 14:09.59 | ibot | Sounds like _somebody_'s got a case of the Muhhndays! |
| 14:11.29 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 14:11.47 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
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| 14:15.29 | hrw|busy | hi CoreDump|home |
| 14:16.04 | CoreDump|home | hey koen & hrw|busy |
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| 14:28.25 | reenoo_ | afternoon |
| 14:41.37 | startoe | I am trying to compile OE for x86...got the following error: |
| 14:41.40 | startoe | NOTE: multiple providers are available (glibc, glibc-intermediate); |
| 14:41.48 | startoe | NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/i386-linux-libc-for-gcc |
| 14:41.57 | startoe | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627: started |
| 14:42.04 | startoe | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r0: task do_fetch: started |
| 14:42.10 | koen | ~pastebin |
| 14:42.10 | ibot | well, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 14:42.12 | startoe | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r0: task do_fetch: completed |
| 14:42.20 | koen | startoe: use that for logs |
| 14:42.26 | startoe | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r0: task do_compile: started |
| 14:42.34 | startoe | ERROR: function do_compile failed |
| 14:42.59 | startoe | okay sorry |
| 14:45.53 | startoe | http://pastebin.ca/raw/19087 is my error. |
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| 14:59.38 | koobla | anyone tried building openobex-apps lately? |
| 14:59.51 | koobla | it compiles, but no ipkg is created |
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| 15:09.26 | startoe | anyone can kindly post his/her conf/local.conf file for me to have a look? |
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| 15:19.16 | CoreDump|home | sox: User options overriding size read in .wav header |
| 15:19.16 | CoreDump|home | sox: bad input format for file /opt/QtPalmtop/sounds/keysound.wav: data size 254 |
| 15:19.29 | CoreDump|home | any idea what this is about? |
| 15:19.58 | CosmicPenguin | don't do that |
| 15:20.51 | CoreDump|home | startoe: http://hentges.net/tmp/local.conf |
| 15:21.37 | CoreDump|home | 2 lines is hardly a flood |
| 15:23.22 | CoreDump|home | koobla: Packaged contents of openobex-apps into ../openobex-apps_1.0.0-r0_armv5te.ipk |
| 15:24.31 | startoe | CoreDump|home: thanks |
| 15:24.39 | CoreDump|home | np |
| 15:30.18 | startoe | CoreDump|home: can I ask what does this line ASSUME_PROVIDED = "virtual/arm-linux-gcc-2.95" do for you? |
| 15:30.41 | CoreDump|home | need that for collie |
| 15:31.10 | CoreDump|home | and any zaurus 2.4 kernel IIRC |
| 15:31.13 | startoe | if I compile for x86 I don't need this line , right? |
| 15:31.27 | CoreDump|home | i'd think so |
| 15:31.42 | startoe | cheers |
| 15:32.44 | CoreDump|home | wasn't there a sound format you could cat into /dev/dsp and it would sound right? |
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| 15:33.58 | koen | CoreDump|home: wav, depending on the drivers and settings of the dsp |
| 15:35.13 | CoreDump|home | ah, no luck w/ wav here :\ There must be a small shell app to play simple .wav |
| 15:35.31 | hrw|busy | CoreDump|home: cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp |
| 15:35.46 | CoreDump|home | hrw|busy: heh nice try :) |
| 15:36.10 | hrw|busy | I remember times when 'cat /dev/urandom >/dev/tty1' was often used.. |
| 15:36.18 | CoreDump|home | I usually use /boot/bzImage to torture someone |
| 15:39.26 | hrw|busy | CoreDump|home: if it is sharp zImage then it is torture++ |
| 15:39.37 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 15:48.04 | CIA-2 | 03kolla 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r1aebe30c... 10/packages/pine/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:48.04 | CIA-2 | Pine - A tool for reading, sending and managing electronic messages. |
| 15:48.04 | CIA-2 | With chappa-patches, transparent and more. LDAP- and SSL-support. |
| 15:48.48 | pb_ | that's a bit scary |
| 15:49.18 | CosmicPenguin | OE is losing its innocence |
| 15:49.59 | pb_ | yeah, it seems |
| 15:50.34 | pb_ | I guess we should add some kind of DISALLOWED_LICENSES variable that you can set in local.conf. |
| 15:52.00 | pb_ | have base.bbclass throw SkipPackage if LICENSE matches that regexp, or something. |
| 15:53.24 | hrw|busy | good idea |
| 15:53.25 | hrw|busy | cu |
| 15:57.11 | startoe | is there a OE-howto guide? |
| 15:58.57 | pb_ | only the GettingStarted page on the wiki |
| 16:00.46 | startoe | The getting started page is good. It helped me a lot to get started. But once I hit problem don't know where to get more information. |
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| 16:08.06 | reenoo_ | so, what does monotone want to tell me by opening two temp files in vimdiff? I mean, it doesn't care whether I save either of those... |
| 16:09.55 | koen | it has a conflict and wants you to merge it by hand |
| 16:10.17 | reenoo_ | that's nice and all, but how? |
| 16:10.24 | reenoo_ | meld doesn't work here |
| 16:11.00 | koen | all I can say is that 'apt-get install meld' gives me a way to visually merge stuff |
| 16:11.10 | koen | albeit slow (X over cable)r |
| 16:11.10 | reenoo_ | ~stab koen |
| 16:11.10 | ibot | ACTION runs at koen with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 16:11.32 | reenoo_ | this is still a fscking broken gentoo box |
| 16:11.54 | reenoo_ | ~lart gentoo |
| 16:13.02 | reenoo_ | koen: how do you merge stuff in meld? merge and then save the result where/how? |
| 16:13.42 | koen | monotone says "merge to LEFT" or "merge to CENTER" |
| 16:14.16 | koen | so I click the arrows and check if LEFT or CENTER is correct and click 'save' |
| 16:15.06 | reenoo_ | hmm |
| 16:15.12 | reenoo_ | monotone: help required for 2-way merge |
| 16:15.12 | reenoo_ | monotone: [ left] conf/distro/ucslugc-packages.conf |
| 16:15.12 | reenoo_ | monotone: [ right] conf/distro/ucslugc-packages.conf |
| 16:15.12 | reenoo_ | monotone: [ merged] conf/distro/ucslugc-packages.conf |
| 16:15.12 | reenoo_ | executing external 2-way merge command |
| 16:15.12 | reenoo_ | 2 files to edit |
| 16:15.51 | koen | another way is to pick an ancestor by hand using explicit_merge r1 r2 ancestor |
| 16:15.56 | reenoo_ | I take it it wants me to save to conf/distro/ucslugc-packages.conf? or what? |
| 16:16.33 | koen | in meld you can save to the temp file |
| 16:16.37 | reenoo_ | doubtful. last time I cancelled the merge at this stage I was left with a broken db |
| 16:16.49 | koen | afaik monotone merges temp files to stop it from messing up the local copy |
| 16:22.05 | reenoo_ | yup. it screwed itself over again |
| 16:23.33 | reenoo_ | I'm fine with merging stuff by hand (even though there are no conflicts whatsoever). but it should tell me where it wants the result |
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| 16:49.46 | CIA-2 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * re352ade7... 10/conf/machine/nokia770.conf: Install gpe-mini-browser in gpe images, some minor bugfixes. |
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| 16:59.49 | JustinP | mickeyl: blech....pine..... |
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| 17:30.42 | Crofton | grrr, I can't build glibc for omap5912osk machine ... |
| 17:31.14 | Crofton | http://pastebin.ca/19109 |
| 17:31.57 | CIA-2 | 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r4f4974b1... 10/packages/gpe-life/ (gpe-life_0.1.bb gpe-life_0.2.bb): gpe-life: version bump to 0.2. |
| 17:33.28 | koen | Crofton: looks like do_fetch failed |
| 17:34.23 | reenoo_ | finally |
| 17:35.47 | Crofton | hmm, so like I have a partial copy of glibc? That might make sense |
| 17:42.24 | reenoo_ | koen: fwiw, the file you have to save in vimdiff is the leftmost one |
| 17:42.35 | koen | ok |
| 17:43.03 | reenoo_ | koen: the problem is just that you have to edit it before vim will actually save it (even with :w!) |
| 17:43.40 | koen | ah, it's trying to be smart.... |
| 17:44.27 | reenoo_ | yeah, vim and monotone "outsmart" each other there |
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| 17:45.12 | reenoo_ | koen: IMHO, monotone should just accept the file. modified or not. |
| 17:45.33 | koen | yeah |
| 17:46.11 | koen | I was thinking about using lua to create some restrictions |
| 17:46.24 | koen | like disallowing divergence |
| 17:47.14 | reenoo_ | hmm |
| 17:47.56 | reenoo_ | what worries me a bit lately is that there appear to be two largely idependent "sub-graphs" that I have to merge all the time |
| 17:48.28 | NAiL | how do I find the nice graph I've seen with viewmtn? |
| 17:48.57 | NAiL | I see you people paste a link to the current head once in a while, but... how do you get there? ;) |
| 17:49.18 | reenoo_ | http://monotone.vanille.de/ |
| 17:50.04 | koen | viewmtn/headofbranch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev will give you the latest head |
| 17:51.06 | NAiL | oh... that was.. complex ;) |
| 17:51.41 | NAiL | thanks |
| 17:52.43 | reenoo_ | someone should tell that kolla guy his pine.bb leads to a package that violates the pine license btw |
| 17:52.58 | NAiL | reenoo_: it does? |
| 17:53.09 | reenoo_ | no shit |
| 17:53.11 | reenoo_ | it does |
| 17:54.03 | DaKa2 | reenoo_: the package doesn't violate the pine license, redisributing the package does |
| 17:54.21 | DaKa2 | but yes, that should be noted with big letters somewhere |
| 17:54.41 | reenoo_ | stuff like that should *never ever* make it into the OE repo |
| 17:54.54 | NAiL | Maybe he should send a mail to them... " Other licensing terms are available by mutual agreement." <-- ;) |
| 17:55.11 | reenoo_ | guys. this isn't funny |
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| 17:56.21 | NAiL | 17:50 < pb_> I guess we should add some kind of DISALLOWED_LICENSES variable that you can set in local.conf. |
| 17:56.25 | NAiL | 17:51 < pb_> have base.bbclass throw SkipPackage if LICENSE matches that regexp, or something. |
| 17:56.26 | JustinP | reenoo_: disapprove his pine commit, then |
| 17:56.44 | DaKa2 | I don't think its funny, and if OE doesn't want it in the feed it should be removed |
| 17:56.45 | JustinP | And didn't mickeyl just commit a pine bb as well? |
| 17:57.05 | JustinP | pine isn't worth the trouble anyway |
| 17:57.09 | JustinP | mutt is just better |
| 17:58.58 | reenoo_ | JustinP: looking at the merging chaos I don't think a disapprove will work |
| 17:59.05 | JustinP | true.... |
| 17:59.25 | JustinP | well just remove it and commit that then |
| 17:59.45 | JustinP | and yes, I agree that divergence should nto be allowed. If we can fix that server-side that woul dbe great |
| 17:59.58 | NAiL | or set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" and hang on a bit |
| 18:00.00 | JustinP | force people to pull, merge, push/sync |
| 18:01.41 | reenoo_ | I wished that would do it (as a script) |
| 18:02.00 | XorA|gone | NAiL: I seem to remeber an EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD variable |
| 18:02.25 | reenoo_ | pull/merge is so slow that a subsequent push can lead to two heads as well |
| 18:02.44 | reenoo_ | XorA|gone: I guess you're referring to BROKEN |
| 18:03.13 | JustinP | true |
| 18:03.23 | NAiL | mark it as BROKEN. Whatever will make it not compile until licencing issues are worked out.. |
| 18:05.47 | JustinP | actually compiling it is ok....as long as you don't distribute the binary |
| 18:05.53 | JustinP | (right?) |
| 18:05.56 | DaKa2 | yep |
| 18:05.58 | JustinP | darn Pine license |
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| 18:06.14 | NAiL | moron license |
| 18:06.16 | reenoo_ | well. for distributors that nitpicking doesn't work |
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| 18:06.46 | reenoo_ | you can't check 2000+ packages+patches |
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| 18:07.15 | reenoo_ | LICENSE has to reflect the state of a .bb |
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| 18:07.37 | reenoo_ | (that's why it was added after all) |
| 18:09.04 | DaKa2 | couldn't the bb check for some variable and quit with a message if its not set, stating that if you want pine you have to set that variable and that you are not allowed to redistribute the ipk? not that I actually care about pine.. |
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| 18:12.35 | oris_wolfbane | hey guys |
| 18:13.12 | oris_wolfbane | can anyone tell me if the Intel Xscale PXA225 is supported by oe? |
| 18:15.32 | JustinP | oe doesn't support processors |
| 18:15.49 | koen | it supports boards and devices |
| 18:15.54 | JustinP | I think there are machine configurations in OE which compile for that processor but I'm not sure |
| 18:16.45 | aoe | 225? does such a beast even exist? google only finds some 200 hits, wouldn't that rather be 255? |
| 18:17.14 | koen | hmmm |
| 18:17.24 | koen | drupal stink |
| 18:17.34 | koen | any suggestions for a decent CMS? |
| 18:18.42 | reenoo_ | DaKa2: I guess you could just as well package the whole thing as a separate package that complies with the pine license |
| 18:19.16 | Crofton | http://pastebin.ca/19112 |
| 18:19.24 | Crofton | looks like fecth did succedd |
| 18:19.31 | reenoo_ | DaKa2: i.e. changelog in the docs or something and an L in the version string |
| 18:21.39 | DaKa2 | reenoo_: yes, that actually has to be done, forgot about that, but even if you make local changes you can not redistribute the binary |
| 18:22.25 | CIA-2 | 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r2653a4b4... 10/packages/pine/ (12 files in 2 dirs): disapproval of revision 1aebe30c46f7b39a3a73dcd30e1227c1a403f1bd |
| 18:22.30 | CIA-2 | 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r4e0dabf4... 10/packages/pine/pine_4.63.bb: pine: re-add Mickey's version of the pine .bb to avoid licensing issues. (somehow monotone disapprove decided to remove it altogether.) |
| 18:24.37 | reenoo_ | DaKa2: ah, ok. I missed that only local modifications are allowed |
| 18:25.00 | reenoo_ | anyways. surprisingly the disapprove worked (sort of). |
| 18:26.36 | DaKa2 | the pine license is a bit retarded, but since they made it they can set what license they want.. and they did :( |
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| 18:38.49 | CIA-2 | 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r9c9506ff... 10/packages/cron/cron_3.0pl1.bb: Added update-rc.d in postinst |
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| 18:40.18 | oris_wolfbane | thanxs, yeah i did mean 255 |
| 18:41.25 | oris_wolfbane | also, when i try and sync i get this error monotone: read from fd 4 (peer monotone.vanille.de) failed, disconnecting |
| 18:42.56 | koen | you can only sync if you have write permission |
| 18:44.12 | oris_wolfbane | ahhh |
| 18:44.29 | oris_wolfbane | koen how do i go about getting my changes upstream? |
| 18:45.37 | koen | attach them to the bugzilla |
| 18:46.12 | oris_wolfbane | kk |
| 18:53.40 | CIA-2 | 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r8d70b750... 10/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Use update-rc.d bbclass instead of manually doing update-rc.d |
| 18:53.44 | CIA-2 | 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * re7146baa... 10/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): And remember, PR is everything (Or something) |
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| 19:47.41 | lamikr | Hi, we are still having weird X coredumps after calibrating the touschscreen and login-in from the gpe-login app with the ipaq h6340. To eliminate the possible sources of problems, we would like to build the gpe-image by using existing gcc 3.3.2 based toolchain from the TI's omap webpage. I have added line: ASSUME_PROVIDED = "virtual/arm-linux-gcc virtual/libc" to local.conf? Do I need to take anything out like lines PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/${ |
| 19:48.15 | zecke_ | re |
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| 19:49.52 | koen | hey zecke_ & pb_ |
| 19:49.59 | pb_ | hi koen |
| 19:51.05 | zecke_ | no kidding did someone undo my tinderclient.bbclass changes again? |
| 19:51.58 | koen | zecke_: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/getfile.py?id=6f537dab213f85b8e27126e37a027ee6f81bf3c6&path=classes/tinderclient.bbclass |
| 19:52.03 | koen | that's what is in the repo |
| 19:52.42 | zecke_ | koen: anyway we've negative times in the tinderbox again |
| 19:53.11 | CosmicPenguin | Our builds are so fast, they change the direction of time |
| 19:54.49 | zecke_ | I'm really getting pissed off... |
| 19:54.52 | koen | messing with the time-space continuum sounds dangerous |
| 19:55.09 | pb_ | angry zecke_ sounds even more dangerous |
| 19:56.43 | JustinP | check the diffs on the commit list....although it doesn't show merges so it's not a full picture |
| 19:57.13 | koen | we could convince mickeyl to include merges too |
| 19:58.12 | Crofton | http://pastebin.ca/19122 |
| 19:58.30 | Crofton | cannot compute suffix while building glibc |
| 19:59.19 | Crofton | is there a guide on how to set up your build for tinderbox? |
| 19:59.54 | zecke_ | Crofton: closes is looking into conf/tinder.conf |
| 19:59.56 | pb_ | TZ="Europe/Berlin"; USER="zecke"; INHERIT="tinderclient" |
| 19:59.58 | pb_ | something like that |
| 20:00.16 | Crofton | in local.conf? |
| 20:00.27 | JustinP | koen: I think that would be a good idea, although they should have a special subject prefix so that they can be easily filtered. It will add extra traffic but IMHO it's worth it as merges are increasingly causing problems. |
| 20:00.37 | zecke_ | hehe yeah TINDER_TZ either Europe/Berlin or offset in minutes |
| 20:00.56 | zecke_ | koen: are you currently building? |
| 20:01.28 | koen | zecke_: not that I know off |
| 20:01.35 | koen | I aborted the build a few hours ago |
| 20:01.53 | Crofton | I see tinder.conf |
| 20:01.59 | zecke_ | ah so it is possible nobody builds? and the tinderbox isn't broken?! |
| 20:02.56 | Crofton | So how do I add it to my build process? |
| 20:03.11 | koen | zecke_: correct |
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| 20:04.03 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 20:05.50 | koen | hey Pigi |
| 20:06.04 | Pigi | hi koen| |
| 20:06.11 | Pigi | s/|/! |
| 20:07.23 | Crofton | grr, can someone jump start me with tinderbox now? |
| 20:07.30 | reenoo_ | hey Pigi |
| 20:08.25 | Pigi | zecke_, do you had some time to test the patch ? |
| 20:15.33 | zecke_ | Pigi: no |
| 20:15.41 | Pigi | ok, np. |
| 20:15.45 | zecke_ | Pigi: I'm not feeling too good now ;) |
| 20:16.47 | Pigi | I'm sorry about that. Nothing important I hope |
| 20:16.59 | koen | zecke_: do you want me to start a new tinderbuild? |
| 20:18.09 | zecke_ | koen: I did ;) |
| 20:18.12 | zecke_ | *works* relief |
| 20:18.18 | koen | congrats |
| 20:18.25 | Pigi | bbl |
| 20:18.26 | zecke_ | unbelievable how your guts control your mood |
| 20:18.33 | Crofton | heh |
| 20:18.40 | koen | zecke_: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/drupal/ |
| 20:20.26 | Crofton | one more time, where do I start adding the lines to do the tinerbox thing? |
| 20:20.40 | koen | local.conf |
| 20:21.06 | Crofton | copy tinder.conf, or is there a way to include it? |
| 20:21.23 | Crofton | or copy and include :) |
| 20:21.30 | koen | I have this in local.conf: http://pastebin.com/327810 |
| 20:21.42 | Crofton | thanks |
| 20:22.02 | zecke_ | koen: Not too bad ;) |
| 20:22.23 | zecke_ | koen: PR and documentation is needed for *ström* to be successfull |
| 20:22.33 | koen | yep |
| 20:22.46 | koen | after an hour of clicking I gave up and read the drupal docs |
| 20:22.57 | koen | after that it was straight forward |
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| 20:23.44 | koen | :) |
| 20:24.16 | JustinP | ? |
| 20:24.35 | reenoo_ | ! |
| 20:24.44 | zecke_ | koen: I think Ewi could host some resources for '*ström' QA as well |
| 20:25.05 | koen | I think so too |
| 20:25.19 | zecke_ | koen: Do you've tomcat installed on ewi? |
| 20:25.21 | koen | but my boss will only think that after I get cvm + rxtx working |
| 20:25.43 | zecke_ | what is rxtx? |
| 20:25.55 | koen | native serialstack for java |
| 20:26.07 | koen | http://rxtx.org/ |
| 20:27.01 | zecke_ | koen: now where is the difficuilty? |
| 20:27.41 | koen | it needs to be crosscompiled (again a java classpath) and packaged neatly |
| 20:27.56 | koen | probably ~3 hours of work |
| 20:28.16 | koen | that's on my TODO for this week |
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| 20:28.30 | koen | next week I'll try to hookup an ipaq to the server |
| 20:30.52 | Crofton | OK, so as I understand it, at some point my build will appear on the tinderbox web page? |
| 20:31.09 | Crofton | possibly after it has finished the cache stuff? |
| 20:31.41 | koen|tv | if you have the VERBOSE part it will send info every task |
| 20:31.52 | koen|tv | if not it will send it at the end of the complete build |
| 20:31.58 | koen|tv | (correct me if I'm wrong) |
| 20:32.10 | koen|tv | aaargh |
| 20:32.14 | koen|tv | error 500 |
| 20:32.30 | zecke_ | koen|tv: " it currently just uses the standard "/dev/cua?" names" |
| 20:32.42 | zecke_ | koen|tv: rxtx runs on FreeBS as well? |
| 20:33.13 | reenoo_ | why not? |
| 20:33.37 | reenoo_ | I doubt it that does more than reading from/writing to a character device |
| 20:34.31 | Crofton | do you care which I use? |
| 20:34.49 | zecke_ | reenoo_: yeah I would have expected /dev/ttyS0 instead of cua though |
| 20:34.56 | koen|tv | zecke_: <title>500 Internal Server Error</title> |
| 20:35.06 | zecke_ | koen|tv: that is okay ;) |
| 20:35.11 | koen|tv | zecke_: I think the serverside has some probs |
| 20:35.26 | zecke_ | koen|tv: it simply does not print anything to stdout |
| 20:35.40 | reenoo_ | zecke_: on linux, yeah. on the BSDs cua was standard last time I checked |
| 20:36.06 | zecke_ | reenoo_: right (on my 5.4 it is) |
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| 20:36.42 | JustinP | TONDER_TZ is the timezone of the *server* or my my local box? |
| 20:36.45 | JustinP | TINDER_TZ |
| 20:37.04 | zecke_ | JustinP: your offset from UTC in minutes |
| 20:37.18 | zecke_ | JustinP: no sorry |
| 20:37.27 | zecke_ | JustinP: offset of the server from UTC |
| 20:38.17 | Crofton | hmmm, should I have left it alone then? |
| 20:39.47 | zecke_ | Crofton: no set it to Europe/Berlin or +0120 |
| 20:41.44 | JustinP | ugh...so not *my* building machine, it's the TINDER server? |
| 20:41.56 | JustinP | so this should never be touched by anyone unless we set up our own tinder server? |
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| 20:42.19 | Crofton | hmm, I just got some internal server errors |
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| 20:42.34 | Pigi | re |
| 20:45.49 | zecke_ | wb |
| 20:46.34 | zecke_ | Crofton: what version of bitbake do you've? |
| 20:46.43 | zecke_ | Crofton: you might need to set TINDER_START |
| 20:47.10 | Crofton | I updated from svn this week |
| 20:47.21 | JustinP | yay, it broke |
| 20:47.21 | Crofton | How do i set TINDER_START? |
| 20:48.02 | Crofton | it isn't in tinder.conf |
| 20:49.39 | Crofton | nor tinder.bbclass |
| 20:52.08 | rwhitby-asleep | zecke_: It wasn't me this time :-) |
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| 20:52.46 | Crofton | hmmm, just saw updates to bitbake with svn update ........... |
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| 20:55.03 | zecke_ | Crofton: update bitbake if possible |
| 20:55.07 | zecke_ | rwhitby-asleep: don't worry |
| 20:55.22 | Crofton | zecke_, just did |
| 20:55.24 | zecke_ | my stomach/coltis is givng me a had time though |
| 20:55.35 | zecke_ | mithro: how is Stockholm? |
| 20:56.17 | CIA-2 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r00837c91... 10/packages/ (14 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:56.17 | CIA-2 | xfce changes: |
| 20:56.17 | CIA-2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.17 | CIA-2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.17 | CIA-2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.18 | CIA-2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.19 | CIA-2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.44 | zecke_ | mickeyl: *hust* |
| 20:57.03 | zecke_ | pb_: is receiva coming to the IFA? |
| 20:57.28 | Pigi | nite all |
| 20:57.35 | zecke_ | pb_: digital radio is a big topic there |
| 20:57.50 | Crofton | IFA? |
| 20:57.54 | koen|tv | koen@dominion:/data/build/oe/monotone/org.openembedded.dev$ grep BROKEN packages/*/*.bb -rn | wc -l |
| 20:57.57 | koen|tv | 38 |
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| 20:58.14 | zecke_ | Crofton: "Internationale Funk Ausstellung" |
| 20:58.24 | mickeyl | international radio exhibition |
| 20:58.25 | zecke_ | CosmicPenguin: internation 'radio' fair |
| 20:58.25 | koen|tv | that's almost 4% of the packages |
| 20:58.33 | zecke_ | too bad |
| 20:58.43 | zecke_ | koen|tv: we should utilize monotone to flag broken packages |
| 20:59.29 | zecke_ | okay good nite |
| 20:59.34 | mickeyl | g'night zecke |
| 20:59.42 | koen|tv | 'night zecke_ |
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| 21:01.18 | Crofton | still getting errors from the webserver ... |
| 21:01.49 | koen|tv | same here |
| 21:01.56 | Crofton | ah, but openomap is there now |
| 21:03.23 | Crofton | koen|ewi, errors from the tinderbox web server? |
| 21:08.26 | koen|tv | Crofton: yep |
| 21:08.41 | JustinP | I ok, I got it to start building but I get all sorts of Internal Server Errors and then an exception in bb |
| 21:08.42 | Crofton | wel then I will just hope it gets better :) |
| 21:17.31 | JustinP | Error when trying to bitbake for a tinderbox set up to e-mail: http://pastebin.com/327883 |
| 21:18.03 | hrw | mickeyl: any reason why our hostap-modules does not allow firmware download? |
| 21:18.03 | hrw | re |
| 21:18.33 | mickeyl | s/firmware download/firmware upload to non-volatile/ |
| 21:18.41 | mickeyl | yes, because it's a) dangerous |
| 21:18.45 | mickeyl | b) not even well tested on x86 |
| 21:19.03 | hrw | aha |
| 21:19.11 | mickeyl | i wouldn't risk doing it on an arm |
| 21:19.19 | mickeyl | people who want to do that should patch the config |
| 21:19.36 | mickeyl | so they're really self-responsible for that one :) |
| 21:19.57 | hrw | ;) |
| 21:20.00 | JustinP | is the tinderbox server broken? I'm getting all sorts of internal server errors. |
| 21:20.21 | JustinP | My local machine is also throwing a python exception after the first attempted package |
| 21:22.33 | koen|tv | error 500 -> server error |
| 21:22.43 | koen|tv | python -> something at your end is broken |
| 21:23.20 | JustinP | well I got a bunch of 550s, then a python exception |
| 21:23.29 | JustinP | when trying to mail I just get an exception |
| 21:23.40 | JustinP | well....seems to be working now I guess..... |
| 21:27.29 | hrw | root@c7x0:/var/tmp# hostap_diag wlan0 |
| 21:27.29 | hrw | Host AP driver diagnostics information for 'wlan0' |
| 21:27.29 | hrw | NICID: id=0x800c v1.0.0 (PRISM II (2.5) PCMCIA (SST parallel flash)) |
| 21:27.29 | hrw | PRIID: id=0x0015 v1.0.7 |
| 21:27.29 | hrw | STAID: id=0x001f v1.3.6 (station firmware) |
| 21:27.37 | hrw | STAID: id=0x001f v1.7.4 (station firmware) |
| 21:27.42 | hrw | updated |
| 21:27.53 | mickeyl | brave guy |
| 21:28.37 | JustinP | well, I'm not seeing any updates on the page yet....although packages *are* building. I suppose I'll let it crunch on and hope the data is actually getting stored somehow (although this seems unlikely due to the 500's...) |
| 21:28.56 | Crofton | same here JustinP |
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| 21:29.15 | hrw | that card can also have primary firmware updated but that thing is probably more dangerous then secondary... - am I right mickeyl? |
| 21:29.44 | mickeyl | hrw: that's correct. If something fails while flashing the primary fw you have a nice brick CF |
| 21:29.54 | hrw | ok |
| 21:29.55 | koen|tv | JTAG! |
| 21:29.57 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 21:29.59 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 21:30.01 | mickeyl | jtag a prism2 |
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| 21:31.22 | hrw | mickeyl: koen is ipaq user - they jtag everything ;) |
| 21:31.36 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 21:32.03 | koen | the wonders of flashing a bootloader |
| 21:32.46 | hrw | ok - 1.7.4 is latest prism2 firmware for that card |
| 21:32.58 | hrw | so another flashed device... :) |
| 21:33.35 | hrw | few pc mainboards, matrox gfx cards, cd/cdrw/dvd drives, zauruses, one cf wifi card |
| 21:35.46 | hrw | ~lart wrt54gs or dlink dcf-660w for slow 'so called speed' |
| 21:36.03 | koen | aha |
| 21:36.20 | koen | ~lart debian for shipping wrong cronscripts |
| 21:37.43 | koen | mickeyl: Do you thing "Embedded power" is too cheesy as a slogan? |
| 21:37.55 | mickeyl | koen: nah, I like it! |
| 21:39.02 | hrw | time wget http://desktop-over-wifi/10M_file == 178s |
| 21:39.11 | mickeyl | hrw: which firmware ? |
| 21:40.03 | pb_ | zecke_: is that the thing in September? |
| 21:40.07 | pb_ | I think we will be there. |
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| 21:40.31 | hrw | mickeyl: 1.7.4 |
| 21:40.43 | hrw | same over usbnet - 11s |
| 21:40.59 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 21:41.00 | pb_ | oh, too slow, he went to sleep |
| 21:41.27 | hrw | mickeyl: was 1.3.6 before |
| 21:42.48 | reenoo_ | pb_: september 2nd to 7th according to their website |
| 21:44.19 | pb_ | yah, that sounds about right |
| 21:44.43 | pb_ | there's also some other radio-fest happening in Hong Kong, but I think that's in late September or October. |
| 21:47.16 | hrw | http://tuxmobil.org/linux_award.html |
| 21:47.27 | hrw | The Winners and The Prizes |
| 21:47.27 | hrw | OpenEmbedded : SHARP SL-6000L Linux PDA |
| 21:47.28 | hrw | OpenZaurus : SHARP SL-C750 Linux PDA |
| 21:47.41 | mickeyl | woot! |
| 21:47.43 | mickeyl | is that real? |
| 21:47.57 | koen | cool |
| 21:48.08 | hrw | atleast Bernardo and I nominated OE to award, I also nominated OZ |
| 21:48.14 | mickeyl | pretty cool |
| 21:48.19 | jamey | well done!! |
| 21:48.20 | mickeyl | we deserve it |
| 21:48.21 | mickeyl | :) |
| 21:48.25 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 21:48.43 | hrw | someone add info about it to OE homepage? |
| 21:48.56 | mickeyl | good idea |
| 21:49.02 | mickeyl | you or me? |
| 21:49.12 | hrw | you - I will add into Oz |
| 21:49.18 | mickeyl | k |
| 21:49.24 | pb_ | ah, very cool. |
| 21:49.26 | pb_ | congratulations :-) |
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| 21:50.28 | hrw | ~lart mysql server on sf.net |
| 21:50.35 | hrw | ~lart mysql server on sf.net again |
| 21:51.14 | hrw | I hope that Angstrom wont be hosted on so slow machine as OZ is |
| 21:52.31 | mickeyl | no worries |
| 21:53.49 | koen | a few million Euro in VC and we'll have our own compilefarm ;) |
| 21:55.17 | mickeyl | heh |
| 21:55.17 | mickeyl | righto |
| 21:55.35 | mithro | howdy people |
| 21:55.40 | koen | hey mithro |
| 21:56.17 | mithro | what is up |
| 21:57.36 | hrw | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14202 for all which dont read OZ.org |
| 21:58.19 | hrw | 3rd place was kdepim/pi... |
| 21:58.39 | koen | ~emulate zautrix |
| 21:58.39 | ibot | this is exactly what the GPL is about. grab the stuff and run away |
| 22:03.00 | mithro | but who exactly gets the devices :P |
| 22:04.48 | koen | 6000l has wifi or bt? |
| 22:05.09 | hrw | wifi |
| 22:05.17 | hrw | 6000w had to have bt |
| 22:06.18 | koen | but not both? |
| 22:06.27 | hrw | yep |
| 22:06.39 | hrw | Dirk added BT to his 6000L |
| 22:07.22 | koen | I was looking at his work for my c700 |
| 22:07.45 | koen | but E60 for a chip is just too much |
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| 22:09.23 | hrw | PRIID: id=0x0015 v1.1.1 |
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| 22:12.02 | mickeyl | heh |
| 22:12.13 | mickeyl | you really want to brick something tonite, eh? |
| 22:12.13 | mickeyl | :) |
| 22:12.55 | hrw | mickeyl: that cf card flashing is finished |
| 22:13.29 | hrw | NICID: id=0x800c v1.0.0 (PRISM II (2.5) PCMCIA (SST parallel flash)) |
| 22:13.29 | hrw | PRIID: id=0x0015 v1.1.1 |
| 22:13.29 | hrw | STAID: id=0x001f v1.8.4 (station firmware) |
| 22:14.08 | hrw | mickeyl: cannot flash newer versions so I stop on that ones |
| 22:15.18 | hrw | hmm.. need to 'unstick' some posts on oz.org to get tuxmobil awards one on top |
| 22:15.46 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 22:16.03 | hrw | ~kill sf.net |
| 22:16.03 | ibot | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudotachyon gun at sf.net |
| 22:16.16 | mickeyl | good news for the next OOO newsletter |
| 22:16.19 | mickeyl | :) |
| 22:16.27 | hrw | mickeyl: give info when you send it - I will look into archive then to read it |
| 22:16.36 | koen | mickeyl: now someone has to device a scheme to get the devices in to the right hands |
| 22:16.46 | mickeyl | koen: yeah |
| 22:17.46 | mickeyl | If I were to decide I would hand the devices to people commited to doing kernel work |
| 22:17.52 | koen | one could sacrifice the 6k for kernel work |
| 22:17.56 | koen | :) |
| 22:17.57 | mickeyl | because that's the area that matters most |
| 22:17.58 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 22:19.25 | hrw | yep |
| 22:19.45 | hrw | too bad that I'm not kernel hacker guy |
| 22:19.59 | hrw | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/08/02/tuxmobil-gnulinux-award-2005/ for OZ.org readers |
| 22:21.31 | hrw | ;) |
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| 22:23.35 | florian | hi all |
| 22:23.54 | mickeyl | hi florian |
| 22:24.06 | hrw | hmm.. secondary firmware 1.7.0+ is needed for WPA - good to know |
| 22:24.09 | hrw | hi florian |
| 22:25.07 | florian | Congratulations on winning the award! |
| 22:26.15 | hrw | florian: thx |
| 22:27.28 | CIA-2 | 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r8910413f... 10/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Update to working update-rc.d stuff |
| 22:27.41 | hrw | NAiL: what was updated? |
| 22:28.05 | NAiL | hrw: to actually inherit update-rc.d |
| 22:28.16 | NAiL | samba, openntpd, thttpd and cron |
| 22:28.25 | hrw | NAiL: could you add package names into commit message? |
| 22:28.38 | NAiL | hrw: yes |
| 22:28.45 | hrw | thx |
| 22:28.48 | NAiL | np |
| 22:29.51 | reenoo_ | yeah, "<packages/files affected>: ..." as commit messages makes reviewing a lot easier |
| 22:30.04 | koen | If I'm not mistaken Werner 'tuxmobil' Heuser is the one with the red shirt: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/Gallery/albums/bordeaux-stad2004/IMG_5892.sized.jpg |
| 22:30.58 | hrw | I have to finally get someone with pda/wifi here to trace essid when router and zaurus hide it |
| 22:34.26 | NAiL | ;) |
| 22:34.41 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 22:34.42 | mickeyl | go go go |
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| 22:38.25 | hrw | mickeyl: one question about signal/noise in wifi.. |
| 22:38.30 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.42 | hrw | those 100, 156 are what? |
| 22:38.52 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 22:39.03 | mickeyl | welcome to the wonderful word of bogus levels |
| 22:39.09 | koen | 156dBm I guess |
| 22:39.14 | mickeyl | in theory, it should be db |
| 22:39.28 | mickeyl | in practice it's just arbitrary values from the firmware |
| 22:39.35 | mickeyl | drivers _should_ fill in a limit filed |
| 22:39.37 | koen | 156dB and 100dBm |
| 22:39.42 | mickeyl | and then report 50/90 |
| 22:39.46 | mickeyl | etc. |
| 22:39.50 | mickeyl | but most don't do that |
| 22:40.20 | mickeyl | i talked to mr. wireless extensions about that and he told me "forget those values for anything serious" |
| 22:41.00 | hrw | ;) |
| 22:42.11 | hrw | opie-networksettings gives signal 64-66%, quality 91-92% - but from Z to AP is <1m and nearly nothing between |
| 22:43.14 | hrw | anyway wifi husky<>my ap suxx |
| 22:46.41 | lamikr | Does anybody have any idea how OE could be configured so that it would use prebuild gcc 3.3.2 and glibc instead of starting to build gross-gcc 3.4.4, linux-headers, glibc, etc... In my previous build I attempted following without success: ASSUME_PROVIDED = "virtual/arm-linux-gcc virtual/libc " Would following work better and prevent gross-gcc to be build: ASSUME_PROVIDED = "virtual/arm-linux-gcc virtual/arm-linux-gcc-3.3.2 virtual/glibc virtual/libc v |
| 22:46.44 | mickeyl | you should try another card once |
| 22:48.30 | mickeyl | lamikr: take a peek into conf/distro/sharprom-compatible to see what you need to assume provided |
| 22:48.31 | CoreDump|home | n8 |
| 22:48.35 | mickeyl | n8 |
| 22:48.37 | mickeyl | good idea, btw. |
| 22:48.41 | mickeyl | g'night folks |
| 22:48.42 | hrw | mickeyl: I have to talk with friend with ipaq and pcmcia wifi |
| 22:48.46 | hrw | night mickeyl |
| 22:49.20 | koen | 'night mickeyl |
| 22:54.29 | reenoo_ | 'night mickeyl |
| 22:58.45 | lamikr | mickeyl: Thanks, that list looked good... one of the item sharprom has in it's list is: virtual/arm-linux-gcc-2.95, is that distro really still using the 2.9.5 version of gcc? Or is that somekind of initial gcc that oe normally builds for building the final version of cross-gcc? |
| 22:59.01 | hrw | lamikr: sharp still use 2.95 |
| 22:59.04 | koen | lamikr: sharp really uses 2.95.3 |
| 23:02.46 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
| 23:03.03 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:04.09 | lamikr | hrw and koen: Thanks. In my case, do I in addition need to specify somewhere that the gcc version I want to use is 3.3.2 instead of 3.4.4 when building gpe-image, or how does the sharp build for example endup for searching gcc-2.9.5? |
| 23:04.53 | hrw | lamikr: decide - you want to build for sharprom or not for it? |
| 23:08.35 | lamikr | I want to build familiar-0.8.3 application set but just by using different compiler/glibc than familiar-0.8.3 does. I want to try this because we have coredump problems when we have build the gpe-image for ipaq h6340 by using gcc-3.4.4 that got's build during the image build. |
| 23:09.50 | lamikr | hrw: We are really not sure are the problems in our kernel, lcdc driver, or where but the X for example coredumps after we have logged in with the gpe-login. |
| 23:10.58 | hrw | lamikr: set PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross = "3.3.2" in conf/local.conf |
| 23:11.17 | hrw | and unset it in familiar-0.8.3.conf (if is set) |
| 23:12.44 | lamikr | hrw: Ok and then take the ASSUME_PROVIDED list from the sharprom.conf and just change the arm-linux-gcc-2.9.5 with arm-linux-gcc-3.3.2 and keep rest of the ASSUME_PROVIDED list exactly same? |
| 23:13.03 | pb_ | no |
| 23:13.10 | hrw | lamikr: you want to build familiar so forget about sharprom |
| 23:13.21 | pb_ | you don't want to do anything with ASSUME_PROVIDED. |
| 23:13.45 | pb_ | if you put gcc-3.3.2 in there, oe will... assume it is provided, and not try to compile it. |
| 23:14.18 | hrw | n8 all |
| 23:14.24 | JustinP | pb_: this is what he wants |
| 23:14.30 | JustinP | pb_: he has his own toolchain |
| 23:14.47 | lamikr | pb: Put that would be good, because I would like to test by using the gcc-3.3.2 that is available in linux-omap-site. |
| 23:14.49 | pb_ | oh, I see. in that case, there is no need to do anything with PREFERRED_VERSION. |
| 23:15.03 | pb_ | PREFERRED_VERSION has no effect at all if oe is not building that package. |
| 23:16.09 | lamikr | So would following work: 1) I have /usr/local/arm/3.3.2/bin as a first entry in my path |
| 23:17.07 | lamikr | 2) I add following to local-conf: |
| 23:17.09 | lamikr | ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/arm-linux-gcc-3.3.2 binutils-cross gcc-cross-initial gcc-cross" |
| 23:17.13 | lamikr | ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/arm-linux-libc-for-gcc virtual/arm-linux-binutils virtual/arm-linux-gcc" |
| 23:17.18 | lamikr | ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/arm-linux-gcc-initial virtual/arm-linux-gcc-initial |
| 23:17.22 | lamikr | ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/libc linux-libc-headers" |
| 23:18.12 | pb_ | yeah, something like that. |
| 23:18.31 | pb_ | external toolchain builds are not at all well tested, and I think you will run into some small packaging issues around libgcc, but other than that it should be ok. |
| 23:19.50 | lamikr | Ok, I will try that... How about those 5 PREFERRED_PROVIDERS lines which are in local.conf by default. Should I leave them all, or take away lines like: PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc-initial:gcc-cross-initial" |
| 23:20.56 | pb_ | it doesn't matter; you're telling it that both of those things are already provided in any case. |
| 23:25.42 | lamikr | Ok. Last thing: Do I still need to find out where the familiar-0.8.3 distro defines the usage of GCC 3.4.4 and change that to 3.3.2? (It was not in familiar-0.8.3.conf because line PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross = "3.4.4" was remmed there) |
| 23:27.11 | pb_ | no, that shouldn't be necessary. |
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| 23:27.30 | pb_ | familiar-0.8.3 doesn't explicitly call in gcc-3.4.4; it just happens that 3.4.4 (or 3.4.4+csl) is the default compiler version. |
| 23:27.33 | lamikr | Or can I just take the gcc version number away from the ASSUME_PROVIDED list so that oe will think that arm-linux-gcc is always provided no matter what version is required. (Ie. just putting ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/arm-linux-gcc binutils-cross gcc-cross-initial gcc-cross") |
| 23:27.52 | lamikr | I see... |
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| 23:36.03 | lamikr | Is the sharprom.conf btw, having error because it does not leave "any space after last line": |
| 23:36.05 | lamikr | ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/a" |
| 23:36.10 | lamikr | ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/b" |
| 23:36.14 | lamikr | --> "virtual/avirtual/b" instead of "virtual/a virtual/b" that should be correct. |
| 23:36.46 | pb_ | no, the += operator adds a space automatically |
| 23:37.38 | lamikr | ok, nice hidden trick. |
| 23:40.05 | lamikr | I started now the build attempt: I will see the result in the morning. Thanks again very much and good night pb_! |
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| 23:43.26 | pb_ | lamikr: good night |
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| 23:45.55 | florian | good night |
