| 00:00.26 | CIA-2 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rff15002f... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add streamripper and mpd in to the build, vorbis now builds. |
| 00:01.12 | JustinP | yay for mpd |
| 00:01.44 | JustinP | you're adding *all* of the MPC stuff in there? mpc, ncmpc, gmpc, and glurp? Dont slugs not have graphical output? You don't have gmpc and glurp in that case |
| 00:02.46 | JustinP | oh, that's bbfiles |
| 00:02.47 | JustinP | nm |
| 00:14.11 | reenoo_ | hrm, gentoo portage is so retarded compared to OE |
| 00:14.15 | reenoo_ | heh |
| 00:14.30 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:14.34 | JustinP | explain |
| 00:14.51 | JustinP | I see *more* flexibility in some places in portage |
| 00:17.04 | reenoo_ | in a lot of ways. hardcoded paths all over the place. hidden settings. etc. |
| 00:18.30 | reenoo_ | and if you actually have to regenerate its cache.. well.. bitbake flies compared to that. |
| 00:21.25 | reenoo_ | the most annoying thing is that vim .swp files irritate the freaking digest checker |
| 00:21.33 | reenoo_ | irritates even |
| 00:21.38 | reenoo_ | err.. no |
| 00:29.17 | reenoo_ | anyways |
| 00:29.25 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
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| 01:15.57 | rwhitby-web | zecke: OpenSlug, UcSlugc and Unslung should now be sending http posts correctly to tinderbox now. And it looks like the timezones are working well. |
| 01:20.37 | gb2 | hm, anyone here happen to know much about oprofile? |
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| 02:14.46 | emte | heya rasterman |
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| 02:20.10 | JustinP | raster: are you working on eem? |
| 02:20.27 | emte | eem? |
| 02:20.51 | raster | burrp |
| 02:20.56 | raster | JustinP: i did write it |
| 02:21.01 | raster | but i'm not actively working on it |
| 02:21.01 | raster | no time |
| 02:21.05 | raster | it was a demo only really |
| 02:21.15 | raster | emte: dont need beer. need time |
| 02:21.15 | JustinP | I see |
| 02:22.02 | emte | oh eem the embedded demo |
| 02:22.16 | JustinP | well, it would be cool to get e17 working on some other devices |
| 02:22.17 | emte | any no, i havent worked on it this week yet :( |
| 02:22.28 | emte | was going to do some tonight |
| 02:22.50 | JustinP | I wasnted to know if it was just a demo... |
| 02:23.02 | emte | yeah but biohazard isnt |
| 02:23.12 | JustinP | ? |
| 02:23.17 | raster | yeah |
| 02:23.25 | emte | the embedded e17 wm |
| 02:23.29 | raster | biohazard is emte's go at doing an embedded ui using efl |
| 02:23.29 | raster | :) |
| 02:23.41 | JustinP | oh cool :-) |
| 02:23.45 | emte | abet a slow attempt |
| 02:24.14 | JustinP | would be cool to have E on my handheld :-) |
| 02:25.31 | emte | well technically you can put the existing on on there ... |
| 02:25.40 | JustinP | true |
| 02:26.05 | emte | i had all the bb to build it that way ... for various reasons they were removed |
| 02:26.17 | JustinP | what kind of reasons? |
| 02:26.30 | JustinP | (I was thinking of trying to get them in there myself...) |
| 02:26.41 | emte | bad lines in the files |
| 02:26.47 | JustinP | "bad lines"? |
| 02:27.07 | emte | raster isnt an maintainer, broke one or two other packages taht depend on the old ones , etc |
| 02:27.29 | JustinP | hmmm, ok |
| 02:28.02 | emte | anyway the first goal is to finish the desktop and menu |
| 02:28.11 | JustinP | do you still have working bb files for it all? |
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| 02:28.21 | emte | then to package it up to start integrating it into oe |
| 02:28.31 | emte | depends |
| 02:28.38 | emte | on how much raster has changed |
| 02:29.05 | emte | and if i backed them up before my system crash on sat |
| 02:29.10 | JustinP | ah |
| 02:29.30 | emte | raster has a habit of making huge changes to increase speed |
| 02:29.44 | JustinP | well assuming they work with recent autotools it shouldn't be too hard to make them build |
| 02:29.52 | emte | like the 385 images per second load ... it wasnt fast enough |
| 02:29.55 | JustinP | you mean BC breaking changes? |
| 02:30.19 | emte | he rewrites parts of the libraries |
| 02:30.24 | JustinP | ok |
| 02:30.41 | JustinP | and other packages which depend on those libraries are fscked? |
| 02:30.44 | emte | or the whole library if he gets carried away |
| 02:31.06 | emte | once in a while unexpected things happen |
| 02:31.17 | emte | inverted coordinates is one example |
| 02:31.42 | raster | hmm |
| 02:31.46 | emte | altho i dont think that one was raster |
| 02:31.48 | raster | co-ords shoudlnt have gottne inverted... |
| 02:32.02 | emte | nah thats the problem with eem and the new libs |
| 02:32.12 | JustinP | hmmm...ok...are there a lot of packages in OE which depend on these libraries? or are you talking about other libraries (non-E)? |
| 02:32.12 | emte | unless you updated eem |
| 02:32.34 | emte | i can only think of two off hand |
| 02:32.42 | emte | one is a media player |
| 02:32.53 | emte | and the other some type of graphics app |
| 02:33.27 | emte | both as far as i know arnt really used |
| 02:34.03 | JustinP | so you're saying those would break? |
| 02:34.18 | emte | i am saying i did break them |
| 02:34.23 | JustinP | I personally don't much care...I'm not a core OE dev and use my own branch so I can do what I want |
| 02:34.43 | emte | yup |
| 02:35.35 | JustinP | hehe |
| 02:35.41 | emte | and remebers i need to recompile e17 |
| 02:35.48 | emte | i hate reinstalling |
| 02:36.57 | JustinP | I compiled today and it didn't seem to work...I started up entrance and logged in and it bllipped and went back to login |
| 02:37.05 | JustinP | but hey, it's CVS code so I don't mind |
| 02:37.40 | emte | it shoudl work |
| 02:37.50 | emte | raster, what did you break now? |
| 02:37.57 | emte | :P |
| 02:38.11 | emte | and whats my cvs passwd ... |
| 02:38.12 | raster | emte: nothing :) |
| 02:38.14 | emte | hmm |
| 02:38.26 | JustinP | could also have to do with it being on my TV and low res...but I doubt it |
| 02:39.13 | emte | hmm |
| 02:41.28 | emte | i know its around here ... |
| 02:41.29 | raster | JustinP: nah - e will run at any res pretty much |
| 02:41.35 | raster | i run it on my zaurus |
| 02:41.37 | raster | 640x480 |
| 02:41.40 | raster | no problems |
| 02:41.42 | raster | its a bit cramped |
| 02:41.59 | raster | JustinP: have u tried starting it by hand? |
| 02:43.36 | JustinP | raster: no, I let gentoo do it for me |
| 02:44.18 | raster | try log in using safe fallback (jyst an xterm) |
| 02:44.22 | raster | and run enlightenment from that |
| 02:44.26 | raster | see if e is segving or somehting and why |
| 02:44.34 | raster | ro rtun e in xnest |
| 02:44.38 | raster | it coudl be entranc |
| 02:44.43 | raster | entrance not runing e |
| 02:44.46 | raster | as such |
| 02:44.49 | raster | check your system logs |
| 02:44.51 | JustinP | could be |
| 02:44.59 | JustinP | could also be me misconfiguring something ;-) |
| 02:44.59 | raster | run xnets and run e17 in it to see |
| 02:45.04 | raster | i doubt it |
| 02:45.14 | raster | e is fairly robust in that respect |
| 02:45.17 | raster | i wodul hope - anwyay |
| 02:46.53 | emte | did gentoo build it or did you? |
| 02:47.59 | JustinP | yes |
| 02:48.06 | JustinP | from CVS |
| 02:49.32 | emte | that doesnt awnswer the question |
| 02:49.45 | JustinP | I can't get Xnest up....never used it before... |
| 02:49.54 | JustinP | emte: yes, Gentoo built it for me |
| 02:50.12 | emte | then you probably have a build issue |
| 02:51.01 | JustinP | why's that? |
| 02:51.30 | emte | would guess someone didnt set it up right |
| 02:51.42 | emte | build it by hand |
| 02:52.16 | JustinP | there *are* people using e17 on Gentoo...there's a wiki page set up with instructions and all...it all *did* build |
| 02:52.31 | JustinP | which kind of build problem? |
| 02:53.22 | emte | something changed, you have different hardware/requs, etc |
| 02:53.52 | emte | your following someone else's recipe, that doesnt mean its right for you |
| 02:54.49 | JustinP | this is the whole idea of Gentoo....everything else works fine... |
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| 02:57.36 | JustinP | and, as said before, this may be misconfiguration by me |
| 02:57.47 | JustinP | I'll test a bit more before rebuilding the whole thing |
| 03:00.04 | emte | bleck sf cvs is SLOOOOOOW |
| 03:01.06 | JustinP | failsafe doesn't work either...blue and purple lines, default X cursor, the line again, then entranced comes back |
| 03:06.24 | JustinP | looks pretty sweet |
| 03:06.41 | JustinP | now why wasn't entranced working.....:-| |
| 03:14.13 | JustinP | nope, it won't start up any sessions... |
| 03:14.33 | emte | hmm |
| 03:18.23 | emte | Running aclocal... |
| 03:18.23 | emte | /usr/share/aclocal/gtk.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTK |
| 03:18.23 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.24 | emte | nice |
| 03:19.04 | JustinP | emte: did you find your bb files? |
| 03:19.23 | emte | no, i didnt know i was looking |
| 03:19.26 | emte | sec |
| 03:21.27 | JustinP | heh, ok |
| 03:22.02 | emte | hmm |
| 03:22.20 | emte | i have something ... not sure these ones work or were finished ... |
| 03:22.36 | JustinP | well, something's better than nothing |
| 03:24.40 | emte | lol |
| 03:24.53 | emte | not if they are broken or messed up |
| 03:25.04 | JustinP | I suppose |
| 03:25.27 | emte | originally the set in e17 cvs did work |
| 03:25.37 | emte | not sure if they still do |
| 03:26.45 | JustinP | set of bb files? |
| 03:28.09 | emte | yup |
| 03:28.14 | emte | try those fist |
| 03:28.18 | emte | first* |
| 03:28.33 | emte | i think they were the set i converted from .oe to .bb |
| 03:28.56 | emte | which raster origianlly wrote for his zaurus i belive |
| 03:31.16 | JustinP | hmmm, ok |
| 03:31.23 | JustinP | which Zaurus does he have? |
| 03:31.43 | emte | a couple |
| 03:31.48 | emte | he lives in jp |
| 03:32.03 | emte | so they are easier to aquire |
| 03:33.48 | JustinP | OIC |
| 03:34.20 | emte | hmm i think i have an autoconf issue ... |
| 03:34.27 | emte | stupid auto tools |
| 03:35.51 | emte | grr |
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| 03:37.39 | emte | anyone recognize this? |
| 03:37.41 | emte | Running autoconf... |
| 03:37.41 | emte | configure.in:16: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_ENABLE_SHARED |
| 03:37.41 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.41 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.42 | emte | configure.in:17: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL |
| 03:37.55 | JustinP | :-| |
| 03:41.52 | emte | there we go |
| 03:42.00 | emte | autotools was too new |
| 03:42.10 | emte | raster, time to update your auto scripts |
| 03:42.17 | JustinP | aw shit |
| 03:42.36 | JustinP | if the auto scripts don't work with the new autotools they will *not* work in OE |
| 03:42.51 | emte | they should |
| 03:43.00 | emte | oe uses the system autotools |
| 03:43.09 | emte | i was generationg |
| 03:43.27 | emte | you know ./autogen.sh |
| 03:44.22 | emte | id3 loads images ... |
| 03:44.25 | JustinP | eek, these are .oe files... |
| 03:44.40 | emte | originally yes |
| 03:45.03 | emte | the OEFAILES etc just need to be changed to BBFILES and make sure it has a licemse |
| 03:45.15 | emte | nice spelling on my part |
| 03:45.17 | JustinP | yeah |
| 03:45.46 | emte | any more recent drastic changes to the bb meta, i am not aware of |
| 03:46.51 | emte | i need to fix my damn system sound |
| 03:47.17 | emte | the only thing i havent got to work in debian ... |
| 03:47.32 | kergoth | emte: oe doesnt use the system autotools, it uses the ones it builds, which are latest |
| 03:47.48 | emte | ah |
| 03:47.49 | kergoth | updating the package to work with current autotools is a large part of adding it to oe |
| 03:48.25 | JustinP | that's what I thought... |
| 03:48.28 | emte | maybe i can convice raster to switch to smake or sothing beter :P |
| 03:48.39 | raster | u doubt it |
| 03:48.42 | raster | i doubt it |
| 03:48.42 | emte | lol |
| 03:48.49 | emte | how about an update then? |
| 03:48.51 | raster | at this stage autofoo is entrenched |
| 03:48.55 | raster | i HATe dealing with it |
| 03:48.56 | raster | its a pita |
| 03:49.00 | raster | but it works mostly |
| 03:49.01 | emte | yeah it is |
| 03:49.02 | raster | and will stay for now |
| 03:49.08 | raster | no update |
| 03:49.09 | raster | it WORKS |
| 03:49.10 | raster | for me |
| 03:49.13 | raster | on my system |
| 03:49.16 | raster | if it aint broke |
| 03:49.18 | raster | dont fix it. |
| 03:49.23 | emte | dont update your autotools then |
| 03:49.26 | raster | i dont just update 1 thng |
| 03:49.34 | raster | i have to update like 20 or so trees |
| 03:49.42 | emte | might want to put a note on the cvs page |
| 03:49.43 | raster | its a major undertaking to "update" |
| 03:49.54 | raster | i dont update them |
| 03:49.56 | JustinP | I understand.... |
| 03:50.06 | raster | istick to libtool 1.5, automake 21.7 and autoconf 2.59 |
| 03:50.22 | JustinP | hehe |
| 03:50.23 | raster | i will not update unless i have no choice |
| 03:50.29 | raster | i have code to write |
| 03:50.39 | JustinP | I don't know anything about those systems except that they're magic |
| 03:50.42 | raster | not build "files' to fuck with that wont actually make the code improve at all |
| 03:50.44 | raster | :( |
| 03:50.55 | raster | after e17 i am considerign looking at improving it |
| 03:51.03 | raster | maybe buuilding a meta build system of our own |
| 03:51.09 | raster | so we can update/fix it in 1 place |
| 03:51.16 | raster | and alltrees can update then |
| 03:51.19 | raster | from the same templates |
| 03:51.34 | emte | yeah that seems well within embryo if it can run standalone .. |
| 03:52.52 | kergoth | autoconf 2.59 should be fine, libtool 1.5 should be fine |
| 03:52.56 | kergoth | even automake 1.7 should be |
| 03:53.03 | kergoth | so there shouldnt be anything to update |
| 03:53.13 | kergoth | automake > 1.7 is slightly more picky, but the fixes are minor |
| 03:56.33 | emte | doesnt generate much of any usefulness |
| 03:57.45 | JustinP | or anything....missing packages |
| 03:58.03 | emte | not supprising |
| 03:58.16 | emte | i am supposed to be maintining it :( |
| 03:58.32 | emte | i should be able to reinstall BB now tho |
| 03:58.40 | emte | havent been able to use it for a couple months |
| 03:59.10 | JustinP | hmmm... |
| 03:59.30 | emte | what do you want JustinP ? |
| 03:59.42 | emte | i'll give you a set |
| 03:59.52 | emte | fb, x11, fb+x11 ? |
| 03:59.53 | JustinP | well I'm missing evas... |
| 03:59.59 | JustinP | huh? |
| 04:00.07 | emte | you have three choices |
| 04:00.10 | JustinP | oh, X11 I think...not sure exactly which is best |
| 04:00.19 | JustinP | if E runs on fb, would this not be faster? |
| 04:00.22 | emte | depends if your device has fb support or not |
| 04:00.36 | JustinP | I believe the spitz runs on fb, yes |
| 04:00.43 | emte | so x11+fb |
| 04:00.49 | emte | give me a few min |
| 04:00.52 | JustinP | Xfbdev |
| 04:00.56 | JustinP | ok |
| 04:00.57 | JustinP | thanks |
| 04:07.46 | emte | JustinP, i just tossed em all in |
| 04:07.52 | emte | can you accept dcc? |
| 04:07.59 | emte | or you need me to mail? |
| 04:08.06 | JustinP | possibly....but mail would be easier |
| 04:08.21 | JustinP | you can try |
| 04:08.49 | emte | type /dcc get emte |
| 04:09.04 | emte | there you go |
| 04:09.10 | JustinP | ok, then |
| 04:10.12 | emte | hopefully those were/are a valid set |
| 04:10.37 | emte | i think they pull from fd.org tho not cvs |
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| 04:12.08 | JustinP | hmmm, parse errors |
| 04:12.25 | emte | detail? |
| 04:12.50 | JustinP | global name 'ParseError' not defined ;-) |
| 04:13.04 | emte | how about a useful paste? |
| 04:13.27 | JustinP | believe me it wouldn't help |
| 04:14.02 | emte | well i cant fix it then |
| 04:14.34 | JustinP | missing \ after --with-x in evas bb file |
| 04:15.11 | emte | shouldnt need a line break for options ... |
| 04:15.23 | emte | maybe it does ... |
| 04:15.36 | JustinP | there was no \ |
| 04:15.37 | emte | but like i said i am not sure if taht set works |
| 04:15.49 | JustinP | I know, I'm playing with it :-) |
| 04:16.07 | emte | hopefully all you need are minor adjusments |
| 04:16.48 | JustinP | wow, fun...OE assumes the filename includes the fetch.php? |
| 04:17.10 | emte | sometimes |
| 04:17.25 | JustinP | any the ? was part of the statement, sorry |
| 04:18.20 | emte | yeah that sounds like one of my comments |
| 04:18.23 | JustinP | my typing lately... |
| 04:18.46 | JustinP | anyone, variable for name of tarball? |
| 04:19.05 | emte | comeagain? |
| 04:19.24 | emte | it inherits taht from the package name |
| 04:20.29 | JustinP | let's see if I can explain better |
| 04:20.31 | JustinP | SRC_URI = "http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/fetch.php?file=evas-0.9.9.004.tar.gz" |
| 04:20.42 | JustinP | rm: cannot remove `/home/papercrane/oe/sources/fetch.php?file=evas-0.9.9.004.tar.gz*': No such file or directory |
| 04:20.45 | JustinP | NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/fetch.php?file=evas-0.9.9.004.tar.gz |
| 04:20.51 | JustinP | the last 2 lines are from bitbake |
| 04:21.19 | emte | you shoudl verify that it is indeed at that location ... fd.org did reorganize some time ago |
| 04:21.29 | JustinP | the download works just fine |
| 04:21.33 | JustinP | I can see wget getting it |
| 04:21.52 | JustinP | it downloads as "evas-0.9.9.004.tar.gz", not "fetch.php?file=evas-0.9.9.004.tar.gz" |
| 04:22.21 | emte | yeah ... |
| 04:22.27 | emte | i forget what the fix is for that |
| 04:23.39 | JustinP | damn, no-one else has ? in their SRC_URI |
| 04:23.48 | JustinP | any way to get those files without going through PHP? |
| 04:23.49 | emte | hmm |
| 04:23.55 | emte | i just found another set ... |
| 04:24.35 | JustinP | hehe |
| 04:24.38 | JustinP | and CVS set perhaps? |
| 04:24.52 | JustinP | (probably wouldn't be too hard to convert these actually...) |
| 04:25.13 | emte | i did static because raster was changing libs at that point |
| 04:25.31 | emte | SRC_URI = "http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/files/evas-${PV}.tar.gz \ |
| 04:25.31 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.32 | JustinP | understandable |
| 04:25.47 | emte | is what i have for an inc |
| 04:28.40 | emte | btw anyone program PICs |
| 04:28.52 | emte | with an ICD, ICD2, or picstart+ ? |
| 04:29.06 | emte | http://www.landamore.com/pic.html |
| 04:29.12 | emte | might be of interest to you |
| 04:30.03 | emte | the only *nix one to support the ICD2 |
| 04:52.15 | JustinP | no, not really... |
| 04:52.24 | JustinP | missing pkg.m4.... |
| 04:52.32 | JustinP | working on other stuff as well |
| 04:53.00 | emte | well pkg.m4 is in my dir |
| 04:53.09 | emte | its an m4 patch |
| 04:54.23 | JustinP | not in the SRC_URI |
| 04:54.31 | JustinP | like I said, working on other stuff for a minute... |
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| 05:47.02 | mithro | morning people |
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| 05:47.46 | gints | morning |
| 05:48.38 | emte | oi |
| 05:53.36 | emte | raster, how usable is med? |
| 05:56.28 | raster | med? |
| 05:56.34 | raster | for editing menus? |
| 05:56.41 | raster | it isnt. |
| 05:56.43 | raster | dont use it. |
| 05:57.51 | emte | k |
| 05:59.16 | koobla | hi all |
| 06:00.02 | emte | lets see if i can switch wm now |
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| 06:18.32 | emte | finally |
| 06:18.36 | emte | stupid gdm |
| 06:33.50 | koobla | who is hosting the oesources.org stuff? |
| 06:38.20 | emte | raster how do i fix the annoying application background color? |
| 06:39.55 | emte | blue backgraound with black or green text doesnt work too well |
| 06:40.36 | raster | ? |
| 06:41.06 | emte | well firefox is doing it |
| 06:41.11 | emte | anjuta as well |
| 06:41.19 | raster | errr |
| 06:41.22 | raster | apps are apps |
| 06:41.27 | raster | thats their issue |
| 06:41.33 | emte | lol |
| 06:41.37 | raster | wm doesnt do anythign abotu how/what apps draw inside their windows |
| 06:41.43 | emte | hmm |
| 06:41.51 | raster | thats up to the toolkit or app or both |
| 06:41.56 | emte | they werent doing it under gnome/kde |
| 06:43.20 | emte | wonder if galeon does it |
| 06:43.55 | raster | e doesnt do anything to them |
| 06:43.57 | raster | doesnt touch them |
| 06:44.03 | raster | they are left entirely alone |
| 06:44.18 | raster | so likely it is some user setup of your own that tells apsp to do that |
| 06:44.18 | emte | yeah all my browsers do it now ... |
| 06:44.22 | raster | maybe .gtkrc |
| 06:44.33 | emte | could be ... |
| 06:45.27 | raster | as i said |
| 06:45.34 | raster | e does nothing to interferer with your apps that way |
| 06:45.37 | raster | they are on their own |
| 06:45.50 | raster | they will do just what they woudl do if u had NO wm running |
| 06:46.58 | emte | hmm |
| 06:47.04 | emte | funny funny |
| 06:47.59 | emte | (firefox-bin:10290): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?) |
| 06:48.04 | emte | is the only warning ... |
| 06:48.26 | emte | ah well gf calles |
| 06:48.32 | emte | figure it out later i guess |
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| 07:01.06 | CIA-2 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r403cac03... 10/packages/kdepimpi/ (4 files): updated kdepimpi to 2.1.18 |
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| 07:10.03 | koen | good morning all |
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| 07:47.43 | XorA | morning |
| 07:48.04 | bluelightning | hi XorA |
| 07:50.07 | koen | hey bluelightning |
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| 08:04.49 | RP | morning all |
| 08:08.05 | koen | hey RP |
| 08:09.52 | XorA | hey RP |
| 08:10.41 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 08:13.43 | XorA | RP: congrats on hostap |
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| 08:17.08 | RP | XorA: Thanks :) Just pleased to get it working so I don't feel guilty about moving the versions forwards... |
| 08:18.15 | bluelightning | hi koen, RP, ade|desk |
| 08:18.41 | RP | morning ade|desk, bluelightning |
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| 08:20.41 | startoe | hi all |
| 08:22.53 | koen | hey startoe |
| 08:26.55 | startoe | got to shut down my machine to put a target harddrive in...c u a bit |
| 08:55.04 | koobla | is someone working on a parallel bitbake? I could do with a speed-up :) |
| 08:56.13 | hrw|work | hi morning etc |
| 08:56.19 | RP | hi hrw|work |
| 08:56.36 | hrw|work | koobla: you could work on it |
| 08:56.51 | RP | koobla: People have talked about it and I have ideas on how to do it. We need someone with the time to spend on it... |
| 08:56.56 | hrw|work | regexp suxx |
| 08:57.30 | koobla | RP: i feared so :( |
| 08:57.50 | koobla | maybe i can get a student do a project this term |
| 08:57.50 | hrw|work | I have "[G pic_title | L G]" and "[G pic_title | R G]" - "\[\s?G\s?(\w+)\s?\|\s?([LRM]+)\s?G\]" gives me 1st but not 2nd - anyone know what is wrong? |
| 08:59.28 | koen | koobla: till the jobs get parallezid you can use PRALLEL_MAKE |
| 09:00.12 | RP | koobla: Having someone hack bbp into bitbake would also give a nice parsing speedup |
| 09:00.15 | RP | ~bbp |
| 09:00.15 | ibot | bbp is probably A preliminary .bb parser written in C using 'lemon' for the parser. See http://projects.buici.com/oe/. |
| 09:00.38 | RP | hrw|work: That makes my head hurt ;-) |
| 09:00.39 | koobla | oh - nice :) |
| 09:01.36 | koobla | @parallel - not much use, need to get a hyperthreading machine first... |
| 09:02.03 | koobla | I do see longer periods of low activity while scripts are prepared etc |
| 09:02.17 | hrw|work | koobla: run fetch on one console and build on another |
| 09:02.47 | hrw|work | koobla: it can be dangerous anyway |
| 09:02.56 | koobla | hrw|work: i do 2 different builds on 2 machines at the moment |
| 09:03.14 | koobla | one for gpe, the other for kernel hacking |
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| 09:03.17 | Bernardo | good morning |
| 09:03.32 | RP | koobla: Share the sources directory between them over nfs |
| 09:03.34 | RP | he Bernardo |
| 09:03.36 | RP | hi even :) |
| 09:03.37 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 09:03.48 | hrw|work | Bernardo: are you familiar with regexp? |
| 09:03.51 | koobla | RP: that's what I thought of, yes |
| 09:04.16 | Bernardo | hrw|work: no, why? |
| 09:04.25 | hrw|work | Bernardo: I have a problem with one |
| 09:04.34 | hrw|work | Bernardo: I have "[G pic_title | L G]" and "[G pic_title | R G]" - "\[\s?G\s?(\w+)\s?\|\s?([LRM]+)\s?G\]" gives me 1st but not 2nd - anyone know what is wrong? |
| 09:04.36 | koobla | Would be cool if bitbake could take a _random_ task that is buildable -> less race conditions |
| 09:05.14 | koobla | don't want to implement a whole file-based sync protocol |
| 09:05.17 | Bernardo | hrw|work: looks like it should work, but since it doesn't... |
| 09:06.07 | hrw|work | Bernardo: thats the problem |
| 09:06.32 | RP | koobla: bitbake is extremely linear at the moment and its an inbuilt part of the design... |
| 09:12.38 | koobla | well, then I will stick to more pressing problems - can't get gpe-image built |
| 09:13.35 | koobla | where can i find gpe-theme-industrial? |
| 09:13.50 | koen | I don't think is is such a thing |
| 09:14.23 | koen | see http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/ipkgfind/result.phtml?query=industrial&searchtype=package§ion= |
| 09:15.02 | koobla | thx koen -- gpe-image depends on it... |
| 09:15.23 | koobla | will checkout the other branches and search for it |
| 09:16.06 | koen | according to http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE_qa/OpenEmbeddedBuild/status.html opie and gpe build fine |
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| 09:17.10 | koobla | strange... |
| 09:17.29 | koobla | will dump my monotone repository then and start again |
| 09:18.40 | koobla | need to read zaurus configs... (building for a different board) |
| 09:22.02 | arrummzen | What do I set my MACHINE to if I wish to build for SL-C3100 or SL-C760? |
| 09:22.09 | arrummzen | in local.conf |
| 09:22.27 | koen | ~c3100 |
| 09:22.41 | koen | ~3100 |
| 09:22.41 | ibot | See http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/H3100 |
| 09:22.46 | koen | ~sl-c3100 |
| 09:22.55 | arrummzen | ??? |
| 09:23.19 | koen | ~akita |
| 09:23.19 | ibot | i heard akita is the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog |
| 09:23.22 | koen | aargh |
| 09:23.24 | arrummzen | ibot, The page doesn't ppear to exist? |
| 09:23.29 | koen | what is the codename for 3100? |
| 09:24.09 | hrw|work | breezy? |
| 09:24.14 | hrw|work | ~breezy |
| 09:24.25 | hrw|work | bSomething anyway ;) |
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| 09:25.20 | koen | borzoi |
| 09:25.29 | arrummzen | Why do you have to use dog names? Why not just the number? |
| 09:25.33 | koen | ~borzoi |
| 09:25.34 | ibot | borzoi is probably the Sharp SL-C3100, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/borzoi.htm ) |
| 09:26.15 | koen | c760 -> MACHINE=c7x0, c3100 -> create a borzoi.conf or hack akita/spitz |
| 09:26.59 | arrummzen | Which Zaurii are akita and spitz? |
| 09:27.08 | Noodles | C3000 / C1000. |
| 09:27.12 | Noodles | Sorry, other way round. |
| 09:27.13 | hrw|work | akita - 1000, spitz - 3000 |
| 09:27.29 | koen | 11:23 < koen> ~akita |
| 09:27.29 | koen | 11:23 < ibot> i heard akita is the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog |
| 09:27.36 | hrw|work | ibot: 3100 is also Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100 'borzoi' |
| 09:27.36 | ibot | hrw|work: okay |
| 09:27.39 | hrw|work | ~3100 |
| 09:27.39 | ibot | See http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/H3100 Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100 'borzoi' |
| 09:27.47 | hrw|work | ops |
| 09:27.54 | hrw|work | ibot: forgot 3100 |
| 09:28.11 | hrw|work | ibot: 3100 is Ipaq 3100 http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/H3100 or Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100 'borzoi' |
| 09:28.11 | ibot | ...but 3100 is already something else... |
| 09:28.26 | hrw|work | ibot: no, 3100 is Ipaq 3100 http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/H3100 or Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100 'borzoi' |
| 09:28.26 | ibot | okay, hrw|work |
| 09:28.30 | hrw|work | ~3100 |
| 09:28.30 | ibot | i heard 3100 is Ipaq 3100 http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/H3100 or Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100 'borzoi' |
| 09:28.40 | hrw|work | now better? |
| 09:28.48 | koobla | hmm - monotone co oe.dev gives -> misuse: branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads |
| 09:28.59 | koen | ibot: forget 3100 |
| 09:29.07 | koobla | anyone sees the same? |
| 09:29.41 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:29.41 | ibot | okay, koen |
| 09:30.10 | hrw|work | koen: I see one head on monotone.vanille.de |
| 09:30.21 | koen | hrw|work: me too :) |
| 09:30.30 | koobla | great :) |
| 09:30.35 | koobla | my db is broken |
| 09:30.49 | hrw|work | koobla: mt merge then |
| 09:31.02 | koobla | ok |
| 09:31.56 | koobla | strange that the hydra propagated its heads to my local copy while the server db is merged |
| 09:32.01 | arrummzen | Have any of you tried installing a kernel for a C3000 on a C3100? |
| 09:32.02 | koobla | i _do_ regular pulls. |
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| 09:40.07 | hrw|work | arrummzen: give me 3100 so I will try |
| 09:42.06 | arrummzen | I don't even have one yet. |
| 09:43.27 | hrw|work | arrummzen: so you can be first brave |
| 09:46.34 | arrummzen | Thats not really something I want to be. |
| 09:47.11 | koen | has sharp published the kernelsource yet? |
| 09:47.27 | arrummzen | koen: no, ****ing ***** |
| 09:57.42 | arrummzen | Should I set TARGET_OS to linux or linux-uclibc? |
| 09:59.04 | koen | linux would be the safest bet |
| 09:59.28 | koen | uclibc is nice for devices with <16MB of flash |
| 10:01.25 | hrw|work | arrummzen: you wont fsck device anyway |
| 10:04.01 | arrummzen | Why would I fsck it? OE installs a fresh filesystem doesn't it? |
| 10:09.46 | XorA | arrummzen: you need to look up original spelling of fsck |
| 10:11.34 | arrummzen | XorA, As far as I know its allways been fsck |
| 10:11.50 | hrw|work | s/fsck/fuck/ |
| 10:11.55 | hrw|work | now better? |
| 10:12.28 | arrummzen | Oh! |
| 10:12.32 | arrummzen | I see. |
| 10:15.15 | ade|desk | oooooh hrw|work swore ... i'm telling on you! the teacher will be cross |
| 10:15.48 | arrummzen | I wonder if it would be easyer for me to get Linux running on a subnotebook than a Zaurus... |
| 10:16.31 | zecke_ | arrummzen: Zaurus has Linux preinstalled |
| 10:16.34 | XorA | arrummzen: according the Unix myths and legends and biographies of the original writers the bootup sequence originally said "Fucking up your disks" but the suits didnt like that |
| 10:16.35 | ade|desk | whats the difference between a subnotebook and zaurus these days ? |
| 10:17.08 | arrummzen | zecke_, But the kernel sharp ships does not include my patchs. |
| 10:17.13 | Bernardo|meeting | ade|desk: disk size? |
| 10:18.28 | ade|desk | Bernardo: i can't think of many subnotebooks around, toshiba libretto ... and ..erm the ...er ... ?? |
| 10:30.38 | do13 | Hi |
| 10:34.32 | RP | hi dirk |
| 10:35.04 | do13 | hi RP |
| 10:37.31 | RP | do13: I've patched up 2.6.13-rc3-mm3 to work now and am looking at rc4-mm1... |
| 10:38.57 | do13 | RP:Thanks. rc4-mm1 has the same bug? |
| 10:40.32 | RP | do13: Yes, I have an updated patch which I've just this second confirmed as working |
| 10:40.42 | RP | I'll upgrade to rc4-mm1 now |
| 10:40.58 | do13 | The copy_user_page ..? |
| 10:41.08 | RP | Ah, no, I won't - SD is giving problems :-( |
| 10:41.34 | RP | My SD driver seems to do something different to the one in -rc4-mm1 - I need to find the difference... |
| 10:42.17 | RP | copy_user_page isn't a problem - there were some pagefault patches in recent -mm that break on arm :-( |
| 10:42.31 | RP | I have a patch to revert them in the patchlist |
| 10:43.01 | RP | If you bump the release number, you'll have one compatible with -rc4-mm1 |
| 10:43.22 | RP | If you disable a load of the merged patches and the sd driver, it compiles and runs (without sd support) |
| 10:45.24 | do13 | I use the rc4-mm1 since 2 day. But I have some probs with AC97. |
| 10:46.45 | do13 | Good news: I can read the battery level. Bad news: To get this working I used Liam's newest wm97xx driver, but this driver has broken PM |
| 10:47.02 | RP | I've started working on the corgi sound code. I have it using the proper i2c driver now. Next step is to try and seperate out the pxa i2s code... |
| 10:48.29 | do13 | Are you using the OSS driver? |
| 10:48.40 | RP | Yes, its still OSS... |
| 10:48.51 | RP | I want to try and do things in stages... |
| 10:49.04 | RP | The wm8731 driver I'm writing should just move over to ALSA... |
| 10:54.52 | do13 | Any ideas about sd SD prob? |
| 10:56.01 | RP | do13: Hopefully something simple that comparing my diff with Pierre's will reveal. Offhand, I really don't know. Can't be anything much as the patches are very similar |
| 10:56.33 | RP | Once that's in we can add handling for the write protect switch on the SD card |
| 10:56.52 | RP | That needs to be added to the pxa mmc controller code and then the platform bits |
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| 11:04.19 | reenoo_ | morning |
| 11:07.46 | zecke_ | mickey|zzZZzz: too bad QtE4 is still not compileable |
| 11:11.22 | Twiun | zecke_: why, looking at Sven's qt java work? |
| 11:12.35 | zecke_ | not recently.. I'm still busy with Uni stuff |
| 11:13.07 | zecke_ | Twiun: but tell me more |
| 11:13.24 | Twiun | zecke_: http://www.qc.physto.se/~sven/qtpeers/ |
| 11:14.08 | Twiun | zecke_: but he's been a bit busy ofer the past week or so ;) |
| 11:15.40 | zecke_ | using Arthur/Qt4? |
| 11:16.31 | zecke_ | nice |
| 11:16.33 | Twiun | zecke_: so Classpath will have both GTK and Qt in the near future |
| 11:17.02 | zecke_ | really awesome |
| 11:17.15 | zecke_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:21.41 | __law__ | has anyone tryed to compile hostap today? |
| 11:24.30 | XorA | __law__: RP probably has, hes been working on it |
| 11:26.03 | __law__ | XorA, i get an error if i try to build it ( *** Can't build for 2.4 with a non-2.4 source!) |
| 11:27.01 | XorA | __law__: new one on me |
| 11:28.00 | XorA | __law__: are you trying to build for 2.4? I always build for 2.6 |
| 11:28.16 | __law__ | no i try it for 2.6 |
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| 11:41.22 | hrw|work | which 2.6? |
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| 12:15.26 | hrw|busy | NOTE: fetch http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/rpextra_poodle-r0.patch;patch=1 |
| 12:15.30 | hrw|busy | 14:15:22 ERROR 404: Not Found. |
| 12:26.40 | hrw|busy | RP: poodle does not build with it |
| 12:26.48 | hrw|busy | RP: but I think that we can ignore it? |
| 12:28.38 | koen | hrw|busy: I think it's trying to build 2.6 for poodle |
| 12:37.31 | hrw|busy | yep - I forgot to change MACHINE after last poodle fights |
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| 12:56.03 | CIA-2 | 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rd60d95bf... 10/packages/wakelan/wakelan_1.1.bb: Added wakelan package |
| 12:56.07 | CIA-2 | 03nail 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r92c1dfa0... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add stuff to make wakelan magically appear in openslug feed |
| 13:03.52 | RP | __law__ clear out your staging directory - I'll bet you compiled a 2.4 kernel before this and there are some stray headers around |
| 13:04.20 | RP | hrw|busy: I thought that patch was no longer needed and archived it. I'll restore |
| 13:07.37 | CIA-2 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r82254637... 10/packages/mutt/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:07.37 | CIA-2 | mutt: added a version bump to 1.5.9i, changed to use gnutls added the |
| 13:07.37 | CIA-2 | sidebar tab patch enabled gpgme. |
| 13:07.37 | CIA-2 | Left DEFAULT_PRERENCE=-1 in case there are problems with new functionality. |
| 13:08.28 | hrw|busy | XorA: ever tried mutt-ng? |
| 13:08.33 | XorA | hrw|busy: nope |
| 13:08.38 | XorA | hrw|busy: never heard of it |
| 13:08.41 | hrw|busy | XorA: then look into it |
| 13:08.45 | hrw|busy | ~google mutt-ng |
| 13:11.46 | XorA | hrw|busy: ah, no releases :-) |
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| 13:57.03 | reenoo_ | brb |
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| 14:14.27 | reenoo_ | re |
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| 14:25.42 | zecke_ | mädels listen: please try a recent bitbake |
| 14:25.54 | zecke_ | I've merged protis old pickle_prep/unpickle_prep |
| 14:28.40 | zecke_ | if thins go well CVSDATE and similiar are always current again |
| 14:31.38 | hrw|busy | current in what meaning? |
| 14:31.52 | zecke_ | hrw|busy: CVSDATE used to be cached |
| 14:32.12 | zecke_ | hrw|busy: now each bitbake run the 'current' configuration will be used again |
| 14:32.31 | CosmicPenguin | wow - nice - thats useful |
| 14:32.32 | hrw|busy | ah.. so when I cache it in 20050723 and will build today then it wont be recalculated? |
| 14:32.42 | hrw|busy | before those changes I mean |
| 14:32.47 | zecke_ | right |
| 14:34.49 | koen | r307? |
| 14:35.21 | zecke_ | right |
| 14:40.15 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 14:40.26 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:48.55 | _law_ | here is my hostap error http://pastebin.com/329226 |
| 14:49.35 | hrw|busy | _law_: works for me - today 2.6.13-rc3-mm3 and hostap 0.3.7 |
| 14:50.05 | mickeyl | hi |
| 14:50.11 | hrw|busy | hi PhD writer mickeyl |
| 14:50.47 | CoreDump|home | hi mickeyl |
| 14:52.52 | mickeyl | ~lart gsview |
| 14:52.56 | mickeyl | ~lart gs |
| 14:55.57 | CIA-2 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2ce5d57f... 10/packages/gs/ (gs_8.01.bb gs_8.16.bb): upgrade ghostscript to 8.16 |
| 14:57.08 | CIA-2 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r558c10fd... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:57.08 | CIA-2 | Add netpbm (missed out from packages before), add wakelan, clean up the |
| 14:57.08 | CIA-2 | .conf file (remove things which do not build) |
| 14:59.20 | XorA | mickeyl: you really are turning the Z into a mobile book publisher |
| 14:59.47 | CosmicPenguin | PhD on a Z |
| 14:59.52 | mickeyl | XorA: *nod* |
| 15:00.02 | hrw|busy | mickeyl: part for next OOO? |
| 15:00.15 | mickeyl | i want LyX to be full featured. lyx, tetex, ghostscript, ghostview |
| 15:00.27 | mickeyl | hrw|busy: it won't make it in time |
| 15:00.36 | XorA | mickeyl: dviview? |
| 15:00.48 | mickeyl | hrw|busy: i want to release OOO 2005.08 in august right after we tagged opie 1.2.1 |
| 15:01.21 | hrw|busy | mickeyl: so for next one |
| 15:01.41 | mickeyl | XorA: good idea. will add that as well |
| 15:02.30 | hrw|busy | xdvi should be easier? |
| 15:02.32 | XorA | mickeyl: last time I used LaTeX was on an Amiga 500 with 4 meg of RAM :-) |
| 15:03.21 | mickeyl | heh. our devices should be able to handle it then |
| 15:04.59 | XorA | LaTeX is the work of geniuses, while I had my whole dissertation on one 700K floppy, other people needed an extension to their 10Meg accounts for the word doc. |
| 15:05.30 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 15:05.38 | mickeyl | ~praise Knuth and Lamport |
| 15:05.38 | ibot | All hail Knuth and Lamport! |
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| 15:07.32 | hrw|busy | and you are able to write it in any text editor |
| 15:08.15 | mickeyl | umpf |
| 15:08.22 | mickeyl | gsview needs gtk+ _1_ |
| 15:08.25 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 15:08.50 | koen | heh |
| 15:08.52 | mickeyl | gv needs xaw3d, which is a problem as well |
| 15:08.55 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 15:09.05 | koen | can't evince handle ps? |
| 15:09.07 | mickeyl | any other ps viewers? |
| 15:09.10 | mickeyl | evince? |
| 15:09.28 | mickeyl | oh |
| 15:09.49 | mickeyl | interesting, although it's a GNOME app, so it will probably need a zillion of additional libs |
| 15:10.03 | koen | yeah |
| 15:10.16 | koen | but evince + libs is smaller as QT3 |
| 15:10.37 | hrw|busy | mickeyl: qvfb+qpdf2 ;) |
| 15:10.39 | mickeyl | any C3000 users here, btw? |
| 15:10.47 | mickeyl | hrw|busy: heh no kidding, I have qvfb running on the Spitz |
| 15:10.55 | mickeyl | just compiled it yesterday |
| 15:10.57 | mickeyl | :D |
| 15:12.31 | koen | mickeyl: http://handhelds.org/~gpe/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=portedapps&id=land_6812 |
| 15:12.57 | mickeyl | heh |
| 15:12.59 | mickeyl | that's evince? |
| 15:13.07 | mickeyl | is that in OE already? |
| 15:13.08 | koen | yes |
| 15:13.09 | koen | yes |
| 15:13.11 | mickeyl | woot! |
| 15:13.15 | mickeyl | ~praise koen |
| 15:13.15 | ibot | All hail koen! |
| 15:13.35 | pb_ | heh |
| 15:13.43 | koen | libpoppler has a qt backend too is you don't want to hit freetype bugs |
| 15:13.57 | mickeyl | do you know if evince renders ps on its own or does it need ghostscript as well? |
| 15:14.04 | mickeyl | (i guess the latter) |
| 15:14.14 | koen | I suspect the latter |
| 15:14.27 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 15:14.34 | koen | it has a evolved xpdf backend |
| 15:14.43 | koen | an* |
| 15:14.58 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 15:15.01 | mickeyl | evince_0.3.2bb |
| 15:15.02 | mickeyl | LICENSE = "" |
| 15:15.02 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:15.11 | koen | ah yes |
| 15:15.23 | koen | it is one the remnants of my bk export |
| 15:15.28 | mickeyl | k |
| 15:15.31 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 15:15.59 | koen | my local bk stuff is now in monotone due to the nature of bk export |
| 15:16.36 | XorA | quick someone cure mickeyl |
| 15:16.37 | hrw|busy | mickeyl: when opie/x11 then? :) |
| 15:16.55 | mickeyl | hrw|busy: eventually |
| 15:17.05 | mickeyl | probably late 2006 I'll start |
| 15:17.23 | mickeyl | not sure if it will still be called Opie though |
| 15:17.25 | mickeyl | heh |
| 15:17.33 | _law_ | is it possibly to upgrade from mt 0.20 to 0.21? does oe repo work? |
| 15:17.38 | koen | mickeyl: fluffy |
| 15:17.44 | mickeyl | _law_: yep. just mt db migrate |
| 15:18.08 | _law_ | mickeyl: thanks i ll try it |
| 15:18.56 | koen | mickeyl: did you see the mails on a-d@ ? |
| 15:19.00 | mickeyl | koen: yep |
| 15:20.33 | mickeyl | hmm i need to do more work on lyx. for some reason it thinks it needs to reconfigure itself on every start |
| 15:20.40 | mickeyl | which literally takes ages |
| 15:20.52 | CIA-2 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5d55a16f... 10/packages/evince/evince_0.3.2.bb: Add license for evince |
| 15:21.04 | mickeyl | anyone tried tetex yet? |
| 15:23.41 | mickeyl | hmm either i'm doing something horribly wrong or my USB port on the C3000 is broken |
| 15:23.59 | mickeyl | upon insertion of a stick _nothing_ happens, not even a small kernel msg |
| 15:24.07 | mickeyl | hmm |
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| 15:30.13 | mickeyl | yo ar_ |
| 15:30.30 | ar_ | hey mickeyl |
| 15:35.48 | XorA | koen: compiling evince espgs-native failes in staging here |
| 15:36.08 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 15:36.10 | mickeyl | same here |
| 15:37.26 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: load usb-monitor and try again |
| 15:37.53 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 15:38.12 | mickeyl | usb-monitor or usbd-monitor |
| 15:38.13 | mickeyl | ? |
| 15:38.16 | CoreDump|home | oh, and the usb host driver |
| 15:38.20 | CoreDump|home | usb |
| 15:38.29 | mickeyl | no way with the ohci driver |
| 15:38.31 | mickeyl | can't insmod it |
| 15:38.38 | mickeyl | still the same "permission denied" |
| 15:38.50 | RP | __law__ clear out your staging directory - I'll bet you compiled a 2.4 kernel before this and |
| 15:38.50 | RP | there are some stray headers around |
| 15:38.53 | CoreDump|home | you need it to mount a client |
| 15:40.55 | hrw|busy | CoreDump|home: because it is sharp kernel? |
| 15:41.37 | CoreDump|home | ah right |
| 15:41.42 | RP | _law_: See my comment above |
| 15:42.42 | _law_ | RP: i have removed everything from my tmp |
| 15:42.46 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: did you try rmmoding all usb related drivers before insmodding ohci? that's what works for me |
| 15:43.21 | RP | _law_: Which kernel gets built? |
| 15:43.47 | RP | A 2.4 and a 2.6 or just a 2.6? |
| 15:43.48 | _law_ | latest 2.6 |
| 15:44.27 | _law_ | it will take some hours and then i can say more :-) |
| 15:45.31 | RP | _law_: Ah, as in you've just cleaned - right. That will fix it. I did a complete opie and gpe build yesterday |
| 15:46.06 | CoreDump|home | ~lart spitz for beeing a PITA in every possible way |
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| 15:54.24 | CoreDump|home | anyone w/ a spitz running OZ here? |
| 15:54.55 | koen | ~spitz |
| 15:54.56 | ibot | i heard spitz is the Sharp SL-C3000, or a dog |
| 15:55.00 | CoreDump|home | I need the output of "mount" after pivot_root |
| 15:55.12 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 15:55.20 | mickeyl | no chance, it just doesn't work |
| 15:55.24 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 15:55.29 | mickeyl | usbh-monitor: hotplug script timed out |
| 15:55.39 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: I'm getting that, too |
| 15:55.49 | mickeyl | interestingly i'm able to modprobe ohci if I have physically attached an usb device |
| 15:55.54 | mickeyl | so the port may work physically |
| 15:56.30 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: ähem, IIRC that's the case on akita, too. Forgot about that, sorry |
| 15:57.06 | CoreDump|home | load usb-monitor, then create /etc/hotplug/usbh.agent to load the driver |
| 15:57.24 | CoreDump|home | plug in host-device and bingo -> USB host comes up |
| 15:58.28 | mickeyl | usbh.agent ?? |
| 15:59.40 | CoreDump|home | yeah, lemme check |
| 16:00.42 | Bernardo | ? |
| 16:01.06 | CoreDump|home | yep, I'll mail you an .ipk so you can check what I did |
| 16:01.15 | Bernardo | I do know the akita loads "automagically" the usb host driver under sharp rom, as son as I insert a ush host cabl |
| 16:01.18 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: thanks |
| 16:02.19 | Bernardo | CoreDump|home: do you have a idea on what parameter to pass to device_fd to indicate which filesystem should it expose as a usb "key"? |
| 16:02.41 | Bernardo | I maen to storage_fd |
| 16:02.45 | CoreDump|home | Bernardo: never managed to get that to work. It always used CF when I tried |
| 16:02.57 | koen | no clues from modinfo? |
| 16:03.32 | Bernardo | there is a device_string, but 've tried passing /dev/mmcda1, etc. and it didn't work |
| 16:03.33 | mickeyl | nope. stays silent |
| 16:04.02 | CoreDump|home | Bernardo: storage_fd storage_device=/dev/hda1 |
| 16:04.51 | Bernardo | CoreDump|home: those are the params you're passing it? |
| 16:05.01 | CoreDump|home | Bernardo: yep |
| 16:05.19 | CoreDump|home | never managed to get anything but hda1 to work though |
| 16:05.29 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: mail sent to your uni |
| 16:05.41 | Bernardo | I've just managed to get a kernel panic on my akita, removing and reinserting storage_fd by hand... |
| 16:06.06 | hrw|busy | CoreDump|home: under 2.6 g_file_storage allow to export whole disk not only partition |
| 16:06.17 | CoreDump|home | hrw|busy: cool |
| 16:07.03 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: thanks |
| 16:07.21 | mickeyl | Bernardo: that's expected. that stuff is pretty flakey on 2.4 |
| 16:07.26 | CoreDump|home | I've written a little script called "usbmode" to switch between host, net and storage. And after some hacking, automatic USB host detection works. |
| 16:07.57 | mickeyl | handy |
| 16:08.01 | mickeyl | we should incorporate that |
| 16:08.03 | CoreDump|home | hacking = using usbh.agent + usb-monitor.o and usbmode to switch between modes |
| 16:08.18 | Bernardo | just added "options storage_fd ..." to etc/modules.conf, will see if it works |
| 16:09.24 | Bernardo | nope still get "please insert a disk in f:" in windoze... |
| 16:10.29 | hrw|busy | hi Dirk |
| 16:10.32 | mickeyl | yo dirk |
| 16:10.55 | do13 | hi mickeyl, hrw|busy |
| 16:10.59 | CoreDump|home | Bernardo: is the partition you are trying to mount VAT formatted? |
| 16:13.04 | Bernardo | yes |
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| 16:26.25 | CoreDump|home | Has the suspend/resume problem been fixed on poodle's kernel, too? |
| 16:27.00 | mickeyl | no |
| 16:27.16 | mickeyl | needs someone porting marcan's patch |
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| 16:28.52 | CoreDump|home | ah, i c |
| 16:29.17 | mickeyl | one of our oh-so-many poodle people |
| 16:29.18 | mickeyl | heh |
| 16:29.33 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 16:30.13 | CoreDump|home | I take it "porting" as in adjust line-numbers won't do the trick huh? |
| 16:30.24 | mickeyl | no |
| 16:30.27 | mickeyl | it's another file |
| 16:30.39 | mickeyl | perhaps also other labels |
| 16:30.46 | CoreDump|home | :\ |
| 16:31.53 | jbowler-away | mickeyl: how do you guys feel if we add '/etc/syslog.conf' to the busybox list of config files (currently an empty list) and remove the ROTATE poo from syslog.conf? |
| 16:32.14 | jbowler-away | The ROTATE stuff causes busybox syslog to error out if "file" logging is used. |
| 16:32.19 | mickeyl | good idea |
| 16:33.04 | jbowler-away | It seems to be the only CONFIG file in busybox. |
| 16:33.33 | hrw|busy | CoreDump|home: anyway both patches apply to poodle 2.4.18 |
| 16:34.11 | CoreDump|home | they do? sweet |
| 16:35.32 | hrw|busy | iirc |
| 16:36.02 | CoreDump|home | I'll have a look later |
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| 16:41.46 | Bernardo | re |
| 16:42.10 | Bernardo | just crashed my work windoze machine twice trying to get storage_fd to export the sd card... |
| 16:42.19 | Bernardo | "kmode exception not handled" |
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| 16:43.20 | mangodan | i seem to trmemebr having to unset some env vars, one ebing QMAKESPEC, what were the other to check for? |
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| 16:46.28 | Bernardo | CoreDump|home: did you get my answer that my sd is formatted vfat? |
| 16:47.29 | CoreDump|home | Bernardo: year, dunno why it stll b0rks :( |
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| 16:47.50 | CoreDump|home | eww nice spilling there |
| 16:48.02 | hrw|busy | hmm.. I need to backup my 64M sd card from collie - on vacations it will be storage for 25 photos ;) |
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| 16:48.16 | zecke | hey |
| 16:48.22 | CoreDump|home | hi zecke |
| 16:48.40 | mickeyl | which package contains gconftool ? |
| 16:48.46 | mickeyl | hi zecke |
| 16:48.50 | mickeyl | (native) |
| 16:48.59 | hrw|busy | 256M sd in camera, 64M sd in husky, 256M cf in husky - whole storage for vacations... atleast one thing where spitz/3100 would be better ;) |
| 16:49.15 | Bernardo | CoreDump|home: even stranger is that it kills windoze if I put the "options" line in modules.conf and reload storage_fd ans pxa27x_bi |
| 16:49.15 | Bernardo | hi zecke |
| 16:49.23 | koen | hey zecke |
| 16:50.10 | CoreDump|home | Bernardo: good old windows :) |
| 16:51.35 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: any news on altboot? |
| 16:52.29 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: yes |
| 16:52.52 | CoreDump|home | sec |
| 16:54.20 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: http://hentges.net/tmp/altboot_0.0.1+cvs-20050722-r3_spitz.ipk |
| 16:54.45 | CoreDump|home | but: You'll need to extract the ipk and _manually_ install the files into the flash FS |
| 16:55.15 | JustinP | ok |
| 16:55.25 | JustinP | or install it on a pivotboot image? |
| 16:56.46 | jbowler-away | 2 heads: I'm fixing it |
| 16:56.47 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: it will install but not work |
| 16:57.47 | JustinP | really....so you're saying that thi ipk is not installable? |
| 16:58.18 | JustinP | I mean I could add it to the redepends in the altboot image and have OE build me a new one....would this really fail? |
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| 17:00.11 | jbowler-away | 2 heads: now 1 (and .nslu2-linux and .dev are in sync with the busybox change to CONFFILES) |
| 17:00.28 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 17:00.48 | DaKa2 | florian_kc: did perl work? |
| 17:01.34 | CoreDump|home | the postinst requires a manual installer |
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| 17:03.41 | florian_kc | DaKa2: I didn't have time to test it, i hope i manage to do this later today. |
| 17:04.14 | DaKa2 | florian_kc: ok :) |
| 17:05.04 | Bernardo | time to go... |
| 17:05.13 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: you mean user-interaction? Hmmm, interesting...I suppose the postinst will have to be altered specifically for spitz, then....maybe the whole install |
| 17:05.59 | CoreDump|home | I'll commit a new altboot to OE later (pulling ATM). It's ready for Spitz |
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| 17:06.16 | CoreDump|home | 300 revs to go heh |
| 17:07.03 | JustinP | ready for spitz but I can't install it?.... |
| 17:07.28 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: .... ready for any needed modifications |
| 17:08.07 | CoreDump|home | like a hacked postinst |
| 17:08.24 | JustinP | ok |
| 17:09.02 | CoreDump|home | just booted my "wannabe" Spitz with this ipk |
| 17:09.41 | JustinP | I'm altering my init to optionally call altboot ;-) |
| 17:09.50 | JustinP | just in case it flakes or something |
| 17:10.20 | CoreDump|home | there's always the built-in init=/bin/sh support ;) |
| 17:13.42 | JustinP | how exactly will altboot work? Well, I suppose I can just reboot and find out... |
| 17:14.08 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
| 17:14.20 | CoreDump|home | straightforward once it works |
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| 17:23.25 | hrw|busy | CoreDump|home: c7x0 issupported? |
| 17:23.35 | CoreDump|home | nope |
| 17:24.16 | martin__ | I am trying to do a propagate, and monotone is telling me: no external 3-way merge command found ... |
| 17:24.28 | CoreDump|home | normal boot should work |
| 17:25.05 | mickeyl | martin__: install kdiff3 or meld |
| 17:25.52 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: looks like /sbin/init.sysvinit doesn't exist,....at least not on my machine |
| 17:26.29 | CoreDump|home | what's it called then? |
| 17:26.36 | JustinP | /sbin/init perhaps? |
| 17:27.24 | CoreDump|home | well, take a look and edit /etc/altboot.cfg |
| 17:27.45 | martin__ | mickeyl: any console based tools for it? I am wroking on a remote machine that has no X/gnome/kde libraries |
| 17:28.25 | mickeyl | it looks like the lua merge hook calls emacs if it's installed, but it doesn't seem to work |
| 17:28.35 | mickeyl | at least not for me |
| 17:28.48 | mickeyl | besides i don't even know how to exit emacs except of killall emacs |
| 17:29.12 | JustinP | C-x C-c |
| 17:29.28 | JustinP | yes, emacs "works" as a merge system, but I'm not sure how to use it... |
| 17:29.33 | JustinP | you can also use vim |
| 17:30.29 | martin__ | mickeyl: it is trying to call the external merge tool for classes/gpe.bbclass ... I just want the most recent version of that file... I never made changes to it. anyway I get get it without running the merge tool? (I am looking through the monotone docs... but if you happen to know) |
| 17:30.41 | mickeyl | no idea |
| 17:31.04 | CIA-2 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r7d3bb279... 10/packages/gpe-login/gpe-login_0.81.bb: Add new release if gpe-dm. |
| 17:31.07 | CIA-2 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r2819ed65... 10/packages/gpe-mixer/gpe-mixer_0.42.bb: Add new release if gpe-mixer. |
| 17:31.12 | CIA-2 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r7b0d9a30... 10/packages/espgs/ (espgs-native_7.07.1rc1.bb espgs_7.07.1rc1.bb espgs_7.07.1.bb): espgs: upgrade to 7.07.1 final and remove the need for espgs-native |
| 17:31.16 | CIA-2 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rae92e598... 10/packages/busybox/ (busybox_1.00.bb files/syslog.conf): |
| 17:31.16 | CIA-2 | Add /etc/syslog.conf to the CONFFILES for busybox (CONFFILES are previously |
| 17:31.16 | CIA-2 | empty) and update syslog.conf to comment out the 'ROTATE' lines - these |
| 17:31.16 | CIA-2 | cause busybox syslog to error out with BUFFER=file. |
| 17:31.20 | CIA-2 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r3312c8f3... 10/packages/gnome/ (gconf-native_2.6.1.bb libgnome_2.10.1.bb): add (dummy) gconf-native, make libgnome depend on gconf-native |
| 17:31.24 | CIA-2 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4f25673b... 10/packages/ (5 files in 4 dirs): remove espgs-native depends from evince |
| 17:31.32 | JustinP | martin__: what are you propagating from/to? |
| 17:32.12 | martin__ | from org.openemebdded.dev to my own branch |
| 17:32.20 | martin__ | my own branch only adds files. it does not change any |
| 17:33.23 | martin__ | so I am confused. I did a pull of org.openembedded.dev and then I tried to do a propagate... and it wants to run an external merge tool |
| 17:33.59 | JustinP | martin__: the merg system for monotone is kinda broken in this regard |
| 17:34.05 | JustinP | martin__: do an explicit_merge |
| 17:34.38 | JustinP | monotone expllicit_merge REV_of_your_branch_head REV_of_org.oe.dev_head ancestor YOUR_branch_name |
| 17:34.54 | JustinP | for the ancestor find the last rev your propagated from and use that |
| 17:34.59 | martin__ | JustinP: can I just do it for one file? |
| 17:35.00 | JustinP | works great for me |
| 17:35.03 | JustinP | no |
| 17:35.07 | JustinP | monotone doesn't work that way |
| 17:35.13 | JustinP | but this should fix it with no manual merges |
| 17:35.18 | JustinP | assuming you only add files |
| 17:35.39 | martin__ | ok. would be nice if it took specific files |
| 17:35.42 | martin__ | but that might break things more |
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| 17:36.46 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 17:38.01 | martin__ | JustinP: gah! it stil lwants the external merge tool |
| 17:39.29 | JustinP | even with that ancestor? |
| 17:39.36 | JustinP | for what files? |
| 17:39.42 | JustinP | you sure you didn't edit it? |
| 17:40.06 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: where is CF_MOUNTPOINT set and what is it set to? |
| 17:40.14 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: I'm trying to add an option for hda3 |
| 17:40.27 | mickeyl | ~praise CoreDump|home for hentges-usbutils |
| 17:40.27 | ibot | All hail CoreDump|home for hentges-usbutils! |
| 17:40.47 | CoreDump|home | oh I kinda forgot to configure it on altboot.cfg |
| 17:40.54 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: so it works? :) |
| 17:40.59 | mickeyl | yep |
| 17:41.05 | CoreDump|home | great! |
| 17:41.10 | martin__ | JustinP: monotone diff tells me nothing is changed |
| 17:41.30 | JustinP | martin__: monotone diff -r ancestor |
| 17:41.54 | CoreDump|home | SD_MOUNTPOINT="/media/card" |
| 17:41.54 | CoreDump|home | CF_MOUNTPOINT="/media/cf" |
| 17:41.54 | CoreDump|home | RM_MOUNTPOINT="/media/ram" |
| 17:42.03 | CoreDump|home | add this to altboot.cfg |
| 17:42.31 | CoreDump|home | forget the last line |
| 17:42.53 | JustinP | ok |
| 17:43.10 | JustinP | what if I want it to be able to read from /dev/hda3 (the FAT partition) for boot-images? |
| 17:43.26 | martin__ | JustinP: well I did not change it, but it looks like it changed when I did the pull/propagate/update yesterday |
| 17:43.41 | CoreDump|home | You could add a module to /etc/altboot-menu to do that |
| 17:43.42 | hrw|busy | JustinP: hack to add HDD_MOUNTPOINT? |
| 17:43.51 | JustinP | martin__: don't know what to tell you... |
| 17:44.05 | martin__ | JustinP: I will go ask on the monotone irc channel. :D |
| 17:45.49 | CoreDump|home | module howto: 1. mount partition (see 00-Default), 2. run check_target check_target "$partition" $RUN_LEVEL 3. done |
| 17:46.44 | JustinP | didn't work...will chekc the Default one |
| 17:58.04 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: nope, my menu entry simply isn't working.... |
| 17:59.18 | CoreDump|home | hmm i didn't include the sample script for spizt, sec |
| 18:00.00 | CIA-2 | 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r17f9ec4e... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Initial out of the box functionality changes. |
| 18:00.04 | CIA-2 | 03ccsmart 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * rc579a3af... 10/packages/postfix/postfix_2.0.20.bb: Prefer populate over installer because of permissions being applied. |
| 18:01.17 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: http://hentges.net/tmp/99-ownScripts-example |
| 18:01.41 | martin__ | JustinP: I just sucked it up and isntalled xxdiff ... only required on extra package to install (not like 20 for gnome or kde) |
| 18:03.26 | JustinP | damn it....::sigh:: booting *again* |
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| 18:08.53 | JustinP | fsck! |
| 18:09.44 | CoreDump|home | now altboot is synced to OE |
| 18:15.40 | JustinP | rebooting again...I hope it works this time |
| 18:21.13 | CIA-2 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rf074c151... 10/packages/altboot/ (23 files in 10 dirs): altboot: Sources are now managed by OE's mt database. |
| 18:22.36 | koen | CoreDump|home: now include some fancy stuff from the demoscene in altboot ;) |
| 18:22.52 | CoreDump|home | :) |
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| 18:24.52 | JustinP | I've been struggling just trying to get it to boot form my dev image in hdd |
| 18:25.08 | JustinP | works now, though |
| 18:25.12 | JustinP | I add a HDD3 option |
| 18:25.18 | JustinP | /etc/init.d/devices doesn't exist for 1 |
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| 18:25.27 | JustinP | and I neede cardmgr |
| 18:25.37 | JustinP | needed cardmgr started that is |
| 18:25.46 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: would you like my altered files? |
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| 18:26.39 | CoreDump|home | sure, send any patches to oe (at) hentges.net |
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| 19:11.34 | zecke | ~hail pb_ |
| 19:11.34 | ibot | ACTION bows down to pb_ and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 19:11.42 | zecke | pb_: I've some GTK+ questions |
| 19:11.44 | pb_ | hail zecke |
| 19:11.49 | pb_ | uh-oh |
| 19:12.18 | zecke | pb_: now even radical changes like Cairo as GDK backend gets integrated, and C does not suffer the same ABI problems as C++ (vtables and such stuff) |
| 19:12.26 | zecke | pb_: will there ever be a Gtk3? |
| 19:13.01 | pb_ | zecke: at the moment, it's hard to imagine any change that would justify Gtk 3. But, who knows what might happen in the future. |
| 19:13.38 | zecke | pb_: You can easily make something 'virtual', pango looks okay as well |
| 19:13.53 | zecke | Gtk3 might be rewritten in Java or C# who ever wins? |
| 19:14.31 | pb_ | that's possible, yeah. But, given that Gtk already has bindings to both those languages, it's not clear that rewriting the toolkit in either of them would buy a whole lot. |
| 19:14.55 | zecke | pb_: that is the whole point of political decisions ;) |
| 19:15.01 | koen | what's the status on the displaymigration stuff in gtk? |
| 19:15.58 | zecke | lol Ill-Ilustrated is funny |
| 19:18.44 | pb_ | zecke: hehe, right |
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| 19:36.16 | RP | ~lart SD cards |
| 19:41.07 | reenoo_ | poor SD cards |
| 19:41.09 | reenoo_ | heh |
| 19:42.49 | RP | The way I'm feeling at the moment, they deserve it ;-) |
| 19:46.16 | reenoo_ | hehe, right |
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| 20:01.31 | Laibsch | koen: You had an automatically created index of the variables somewhere. I can't locate it right now. Can you tell me where it si? |
| 20:01.39 | Laibsch | s/si/is/ |
| 20:02.27 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/d/ |
| 20:03.41 | Laibsch | Thanks. |
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| 20:12.26 | Laibsch | Is it possible to SRC_URI to a directory? I am still manipulating the source frequently so I'd rather have it point to my local directory right now. |
| 20:12.43 | Laibsch | Is it possible to point SRC_URI to a directory? |
| 20:12.53 | CoreDump|home | Laibsch: yes |
| 20:13.07 | Laibsch | Very nice. |
| 20:14.23 | Laibsch | Will this do: SRC_URI = "/mnt/pfaffe/src/gakusei.sf.net/nunome/" ? |
| 20:14.43 | CoreDump|home | err no |
| 20:14.45 | Laibsch | Or do I need some kind of specifier like file:// |
| 20:14.52 | JustinP | yes |
| 20:14.59 | Laibsch | OK |
| 20:15.08 | JustinP | not sure if absolute paths will work, though... |
| 20:15.12 | Laibsch | "file://mnt/pfaffe/src/gakusei.sf.net/nunome/" ? |
| 20:15.13 | JustinP | try it and see |
| 20:15.17 | JustinP | add another / |
| 20:15.19 | JustinP | file:/// |
| 20:15.38 | Laibsch | Yes, I will but I have to restart so I won't know until about two hours later. |
| 20:15.55 | Laibsch | OK, JustinP. Thanks a bunch. |
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| 20:54.08 | CIA-2 | netpbm: Fix perl RDEPENDS, make ppmtojpeg work (disabled by default because |
| 20:54.08 | CIA-2 | the target of the link, pnmtojpeg, may not exist) |
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| 22:00.08 | CosmicPenguin | what additional purpose does gcc-cross-sdk server? |
| 22:00.14 | CosmicPenguin | s/server/serve/ |
| 22:00.24 | pb_ | aside from being the compiler that goes in the sdk, you mean? nothing. |
| 22:00.38 | CosmicPenguin | poorly worded |
| 22:00.43 | CosmicPenguin | what makes the gcc-cross-sdk special? |
| 22:01.32 | martin__ | Is there any way for me to get a list of the files that I added to my branch that are not in the standard oe branch? |
| 22:01.45 | pb_ | just that it's set up to install into /usr/local/.../, iirc. |
| 22:02.03 | CosmicPenguin | pb_: ok - I want to move up to 3.44 |
| 22:02.04 | pb_ | I guess you can diff gcc-cross-sdk.bb against the regular gcc-cross.bb to check. |
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| 22:21.40 | JustinP | how do I get the name of the compiler in a bb file? |
| 22:22.00 | koen | ${CC}? |
| 22:22.34 | JustinP | hehe |
| 22:23.14 | koen | iirc there are different cc variables |
| 22:26.35 | hrw|busy | look into WORKDIR/temp/run.do_compile* |
| 22:26.47 | hrw|busy | BUILD_CC, HOST_CC, TARGET_CC - sth like that |
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| 22:54.15 | jbowler-away | koen: in revision 4f25673bce4a4b71f224f593c0e8891b8d43b7a5 comment "remove espgs-native depends from evince" you removed perl_5.8.7 by DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" - is this an accident? |
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| 22:55.26 | jbowler-away | You didn't bump the PR, so something is clearly wrong. |
| 22:55.49 | koen | ehm |
| 22:56.22 | jbowler-away | Well, from scratch everything is broken, because perl-native_5.8.7.bb gets built instead of 5.8.4 and then the 5.8.4 fails |
| 22:56.26 | koen | that change shouldn't exist |
| 22:56.36 | jbowler-away | I will remove it, and bump the PR |
| 22:56.45 | koen | ok, thanks |
| 22:57.32 | jbowler-away | Missing "." on an mt commit? |
| 22:58.09 | koen | I always do monotone commit <file> |
| 22:58.15 | koen | but I must have screwed up |
| 23:10.38 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:11.23 | NAiL | nite |
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| 23:32.56 | CIA-4 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.nslu2-linux * r22665530... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:32.57 | CIA-4 | ucslugc: add back in BROKEN_PACKAGES which now build |
| 23:32.57 | CIA-4 | perl: revert DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" in perl_5.8.7.bb (and bump PR) |
| 23:33.22 | zecke | nite guys |
| 23:33.27 | zecke | cya monday or tuesday |
| 23:33.35 | Twiun | cya zecke |
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| 23:35.29 | reenoo_ | 'night zecke |
| 23:47.47 | hrw|busy | looks like 01:47 is quiet time on #oe |
| 23:48.52 | NAiL | yes |
| 23:49.22 | NAiL | until about 4:30 I'd say |
| 23:49.45 | hrw|busy | basically from today I have vacations.. |
| 23:49.50 | hrw|busy | but now I'm still at work ;( |
| 23:49.53 | NAiL | oh |
| 23:49.58 | NAiL | at this hour? |
| 23:50.11 | hrw|busy | yes |
| 23:50.25 | hrw|busy | one fscking website has to be ready |
| 23:50.57 | NAiL | oh |
| 23:51.04 | NAiL | is it far from completion? |
| 23:51.42 | hrw|busy | no - few things in CMS to write, prepare some templates for webdevs |
| 23:52.26 | jbowler-away | ping Greg Gilbert <greg@treke.net> (is that treke ?) |
| 23:52.31 | hrw|busy | yes |
| 23:52.48 | jbowler-away | Ah well, then he's not here... |
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