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| 06:36.12 | emte | i am curious ... |
| 06:36.44 | emte | did we change the name to bitbake before the otehr bake was created? |
| 06:36.59 | emte | http://projects.bertram-scharpf.de/bake/ |
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| 07:38.40 | RP | morning all |
| 07:38.58 | do13 | morning RP |
| 07:42.30 | RP | do13: You'll see I've updated to 2.6.12-rc5-mm1 - all appears to be ok with it other than those pagefault patches... |
| 07:43.30 | XorA | morning |
| 07:45.19 | RP | morning XorA |
| 07:46.01 | XorA | RP: kernel doing well then? |
| 07:46.29 | RP | XorA: Yes, as far as I know, 2.6.13-rc5-mm1 is looking good |
| 07:46.45 | RP | usbnet and irda remain untested but everything else should work |
| 07:47.18 | XorA | RP: Ill see if I can test it this week |
| 07:47.49 | RP | I've also just committed some corgi sound updates - continue to improve the state of that code and completes the wm8731 i2c driver - just need to sort out the dma code now... |
| 07:48.16 | XorA | RP: sounds good |
| 07:48.33 | XorA | RP: I was playing with g-file-storage on 2.6.11 it is most impressive |
| 07:48.35 | RP | What was a 120kb patch is now 86k :) |
| 07:49.01 | do13 | RP: I hope I can update my patches today. |
| 07:49.14 | XorA | RP: returning sound to full working ness would make C7x0 devices back to awseome DivX machines |
| 07:49.35 | RP | XorA: What's wrong with it? |
| 07:50.16 | RP | do13: Ok, sounds good :) |
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| 11:03.38 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | http://bugs.openembedded.org/ | This is not a distribution support channel | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date |
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| 11:18.32 | XorA | ~lart me |
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| 11:26.37 | reenoo_ | afternoon |
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| 13:38.57 | XorA | RP: testing 2.6.13-blah is going to be hard for me as it recognises my SanDisk Connect+ as a memory card and not hostap :-) |
| 13:39.29 | RP | XorA: Patch hostap to recognise your card... |
| 13:39.40 | Twiun | BigAl: ping |
| 13:39.45 | XorA | RP: I will do, but I doubt I have time until after weekend :-( |
| 13:40.14 | RP | XorA: If you give me the ident strings and numbers, I might find a moment to do it... |
| 13:40.42 | XorA | RP: you should be able to copy from ide_cs |
| 13:41.08 | RP | There were some recent bugs fixed for multi function cards, hopefully they're in our latest kernel version... |
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| 13:43.55 | XorA | RP: last line in the table in ide-cs is the one |
| 13:46.14 | RP | XorA: Ok, looks like our external hostap doesn't have an ID table yet - I'll patch it later |
| 13:47.51 | XorA | RP: I just noticed, when hrw did 0.3.9 hostap modules he forgot the add_event patch |
| 13:48.59 | RP | That would stop it working... |
| 13:50.05 | XorA | Ill try and play tonight if I get allowed to, I really should do some "work" (tm) at work |
| 13:51.02 | RP | Yes, I'm facing that problem atm too ;-) |
| 13:54.18 | XorA | RP: patch applies and modules build, should I check it in? |
| 13:57.22 | Loial | XorA: are you saying your Connect+ has both wifi and mem working now? |
| 13:58.17 | XorA | Loial: no |
| 14:00.01 | Loial | XorA: k :) |
| 14:14.10 | XorA | RP: The ConnectPlus is in the kernels own hostap |
| 14:14.21 | XorA | RP: maybe we should switch to the internal hostap |
| 14:16.10 | RP | XorA: That would tie us with -mm until it hits mainline |
| 14:16.29 | RP | Not that I'm against that but it needs consideration |
| 14:17.11 | RP | Using the kernel's modules is probably a wise move eventually. Its also work noting you can get nasty conflicts between the internal and external kernel modules at install/runtime |
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| 14:44.39 | CoreDump|home | ah crap, looks like my 256MB SD died on me :\ |
| 14:51.25 | CosmicPenguin | dang it, I forgot to start a monotone pull before I left home |
| 15:03.36 | CIA-4 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r2af94f47... 10/packages/altboot/files/ (altboot-menu/Advanced/80-copyrootfs init.altboot): altboot: Add 'Copy rootfs to SD/CF' menuitem. *NEEDS DEBUGGING*. Deactivated for now. |
| 15:03.40 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r626a7a77... 10/packages/glibmm/glibmm_2.6.1.bb: Update glibmm to 2.6.1 |
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| 15:13.04 | Bernardo | hi |
| 15:13.26 | koen | hey Bernardo |
| 15:18.02 | Bernardo | hey mickeyl, shouldn't you be offline working on your thesis ;)? |
| 15:18.21 | mickeyl | no. work time is over for today |
| 15:18.23 | mickeyl | :D |
| 15:18.29 | CoreDump|home | hi mickeyl :) |
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| 15:18.57 | mickeyl | evening, btw. |
| 15:19.31 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1bb6e852... 10/packages/curl/ (curl-native_7.14.0.bb curl_7.14.0.bb): |
| 15:19.31 | CIA-4 | - add curl-native |
| 15:19.31 | CIA-4 | - explicitly disable libidn support |
| 15:19.35 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2719afbd... 10/classes/binconfig.bbclass: |
| 15:19.35 | CIA-4 | binconfig.bbclass: install foo-config as foo-config-native for native packages, |
| 15:19.35 | CIA-4 | this way the config packages don't step over each other's toes |
| 15:19.39 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf9d3b94a... 10/ (46 files in 12 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 15:19.39 | CIA-4 | MASSIVE EFL (Enlightenment Foundation Libraries) Update: |
| 15:19.39 | CIA-4 | - edb |
| 15:19.39 | CIA-4 | - eet |
| 15:19.41 | CIA-4 | - embryo |
| 15:19.43 | CIA-4 | - ecore |
| 15:19.45 | CIA-4 | - evas |
| 15:19.50 | koen | ~hail mickeyl |
| 15:19.50 | ibot | ACTION bows down to mickeyl and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 15:20.28 | koen | ~lart c++ and ABI compatibility |
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| 15:20.52 | koen | ~lart glibmm, gtkmm and everything else in the way of an updated minisip |
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| 15:22.01 | mangodan | hi, i just had to manually run ranlib on to files in the pppd package, is this ok? |
| 15:22.18 | mangodan | two files! |
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| 15:28.47 | zecke_ | hi |
| 15:29.00 | koen | hey zecke_ |
| 15:29.05 | pb_ | hail zecke |
| 15:29.08 | mickeyl | hi zecke |
| 15:30.24 | zecke_ | hail Römö |
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| 15:38.45 | TheMaskedUnit_ | then you woke up? |
| 15:40.46 | zecke_ | TheMaskedUnit_: No I got wet feet |
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| 16:08.28 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:12.57 | koen | 'morning chouimat |
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| 16:27.56 | dan2003 | i'm trying to do a bitbake opie-image on amd_64 and have run into this little grmlin, |
| 16:27.57 | dan2003 | | glib-ectomy.c: In function `g_io_channel_read': |
| 16:27.57 | dan2003 | | glib-ectomy.c:22: error: `LONG_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) |
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| 16:31.33 | dan2003 | whilst building bluez-utils-nodbus-2.18-r4 |
| 16:32.58 | mickeyl | checked on the glib mailing list? |
| 16:33.39 | pb_ | heh, you would probably get short shrift from the glib list. |
| 16:33.59 | pb_ | glib-ectomy.c's purpose is to avoid the use of glib |
| 16:34.53 | pb_ | could check with the bluez list, though. |
| 16:35.54 | CosmicPenguin | I am far too stupid to be doing things like this |
| 16:36.10 | mickeyl | ~seen raster |
| 16:36.10 | ibot | raster <~raster@YahooBB219198104088.bbtec.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 10h 21m 24s ago, saying: 'but then u have to handle encoding/decoding that'. |
| 16:36.14 | mickeyl | emte: ping |
| 16:38.26 | aquadran | pb_: gcc-cross-sdk is currently compilable ? |
| 16:38.33 | koen | ~hail mickEyl |
| 16:38.33 | ibot | ACTION bows down to mickEyl and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 16:40.04 | mickeyl | :)) |
| 16:41.25 | koen | mickeyl: I think JustinP has entrance and e17 .bbs |
| 16:41.41 | mickeyl | i'm doing some more deps for entrance atm. |
| 16:41.42 | koen | e17 will need some extra granularity |
| 16:41.49 | mickeyl | yep |
| 16:42.38 | koen | according to my estimates the e17 layout will fit on a qvga screen |
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| 16:43.22 | pb_ | aquadran: as far as I know |
| 16:46.47 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9b9511ac... 10/packages/ (9 files in 5 dirs): |
| 16:46.47 | CIA-4 | EFL Update, Part II: |
| 16:46.47 | CIA-4 | - epeg |
| 16:46.47 | CIA-4 | - epsilon |
| 16:46.47 | CIA-4 | - esmart |
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| 16:50.21 | zecke_ | france_: welcome ldap user |
| 16:50.38 | france_ | zecke_: hello |
| 16:50.42 | aquadran | pb_: last times, i tried build but fails at compile compoler. i'm trying now. i guess that package is enough to compiler kernel ? |
| 16:51.28 | france_ | I am moving servers about today. I doubt that anybody will notice, but just in case the wrong cable gets moved, I thought I would warn you. Let me know if there are any issues. |
| 16:52.37 | mickeyl | thasks |
| 16:52.39 | mickeyl | thanks, too |
| 16:54.14 | zecke_ | france_: may I ask where you move them? |
| 16:58.17 | aquadran | pb_: still fails. it reports about conflict types in gcc-cross-sdk-3.3.4-r2/gcc-3.3.4/gcc/f/com.c. |
| 16:59.03 | aquadran | pb_: ok, not important. i'll still use toolchain 3.4.1 from hh.org |
| 16:59.10 | france_ | mickeyl: :-) |
| 17:00.28 | france_ | zecke_: we want to announce everything at once, as some change this week, more change next week, followed by change the week after makes folks edgy. It is better to do it all at once. |
| 17:00.34 | aquadran | pb_: now i noticed, it's 3.3.4 version |
| 17:01.27 | france_ | zecke_: I am veiwing it as a great opportunity to clean up the severs, fix the admin system, cleanup the web site, etc.... |
| 17:03.36 | dan2003 | who was the other chap woth amd64 on here? weas it justinP ? |
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| 17:24.53 | emte | koen, you are remembering that e17 requires 3 mouse buttons right? |
| 17:25.38 | mickeyl | that's a bit surprising given rasters commitment to PDAs |
| 17:25.41 | emte | mickeyl, whtacha need? |
| 17:25.49 | emte | not really |
| 17:25.55 | mickeyl | just wanted to ask if you know what's the plan for esmart |
| 17:26.02 | mickeyl | esmart needs x11 atm. |
| 17:26.10 | mickeyl | which prevents me to compile it against the fb only |
| 17:26.36 | emte | hmm |
| 17:27.04 | emte | esmart is pretty much an evas extension ... |
| 17:27.23 | emte | to make the code handling easier |
| 17:27.57 | emte | but specifically ... raster's plans are hard to follow |
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| 17:28.07 | CosmicPenguin | Raster plans things? |
| 17:28.18 | mickeyl | heh |
| 17:28.20 | emte | if you want to call it that, yes |
| 17:28.33 | emte | he plans to make changes, then he does them |
| 17:28.39 | emte | actually |
| 17:29.00 | mickeyl | it's not that important. evas and ecore are most important for me as fb-only, the rest is ok to go with x11 |
| 17:29.11 | emte | http://www.rasterman.com/files/efl.png |
| 17:29.22 | emte | is/are rasters e17 plans |
| 17:29.34 | emte | if you can follow it |
| 17:30.38 | emte | i have no idea what set JustinP is doing, the only snapshot set i did was for all three |
| 17:30.50 | emte | fb, x11, and fb+x11 |
| 17:31.53 | emte | at some point unless he has a zaurus(which i belive he does) he is going to have to write a touchscreen device handler or keybind buttons to emulate the other two mouse buttons |
| 17:32.21 | Noodles | He has a C3000. |
| 17:32.44 | emte | i am only at the point with biohazard writting the client-server stuff |
| 17:33.12 | emte | i want to make sure the foundations are done before i do any more gui stuff |
| 17:34.54 | emte | anyway one day a proper e17 embedded wm should exist |
| 17:35.27 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 17:37.16 | koen | can we call carl worth vectorman and send raster and him on a coding spree? |
| 17:38.23 | reenoo_ | I guess carl is rather busy fixing up cairo for gnome 2.12 these days |
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| 17:39.27 | emte | raster did eem as a demo and has halted evoak, which is pretty much what i am rewritting |
| 17:39.45 | zecke_ | man you guys where busy. 450 revs in |
| 17:39.52 | koen | evoak is the screen grab thinge? |
| 17:40.15 | emte | evoak is a client-server canvas |
| 17:40.26 | koen | a, that one |
| 17:40.32 | koen | he made a movie of that for us |
| 17:40.45 | emte | yes they are all on rasterman.com |
| 17:41.09 | mickeyl | emte: ok, you are the resident E guru here. Let me ask you: where is the real difference between an Evas and an Ecore_Evas and why the heck do we need to have one set of functions for either of it. |
| 17:41.27 | emte | evas is ONLY the canvas |
| 17:42.00 | emte | ecore_evas are a collection of functions to help make it easier for people to build things without worring about ecore |
| 17:42.22 | mickeyl | i know ecore is more, the question is why is there a distinct type Ecore_Evas instead of Evas and why are there distinct ecore_evas_foo_bar which do the same as evas_foo_bar but take an Ecore_Evas instead of an Evas. |
| 17:42.48 | emte | the foo-bar stuff i belive is just example code |
| 17:43.26 | emte | but ecore_evas is just to make the lives of non-programmers a bit easier |
| 17:43.40 | reenoo_ | heh |
| 17:43.42 | emte | and the edje + esmart stuff even more so |
| 17:44.07 | emte | since they allow you to use more of a metafile to define what is what |
| 17:44.18 | reenoo_ | API confusion makes everyone's lives so much easier |
| 17:44.19 | emte | and you have no limitations to size or shape |
| 17:44.26 | koen | mickeyl: does the evas performance test work yet? |
| 17:44.34 | koen | /work/is buildable/ |
| 17:45.17 | zecke_ | <evil text="Why does one need evas if GDK uses cairo?" /> |
| 17:45.45 | emte | lol |
| 17:45.49 | koen | heh |
| 17:46.01 | emte | well as far as i know cairo support isnt full yet |
| 17:46.11 | emte | raster tossed it in to show its possible |
| 17:46.18 | koen | cairo is an optional backend |
| 17:46.18 | emte | but its still too slow |
| 17:46.38 | emte | anyway shower time |
| 17:46.41 | koen | it's faster than anything I've seen |
| 17:46.50 | koen | but then again, I'm running Xglx |
| 17:46.54 | mickeyl | koen: it should build |
| 17:47.07 | koen | ok |
| 17:47.08 | mickeyl | koen: i'm currently doing some tests in rebuilding the stuff from scratch so that I spot missing deps |
| 17:47.17 | koen | ok |
| 17:47.28 | koen | I'm wrestling with updating minisip |
| 17:47.39 | koen | and it's C++ glib goo |
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| 17:54.35 | emte | well koen you have to remember raster thought that evas being able to only open 385 images a second was too slow ... |
| 17:55.32 | koen | I reminds me of the 'one day I got bored and opened 800 images in the gimp' screenshot |
| 17:55.40 | emte | you only need 35 frames per second to do animations ... |
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| 17:56.00 | emte | lol |
| 17:56.26 | koen | locate .jpg | xargs gimp |
| 17:56.34 | zecke_ | aquadran: ok you want the asus be added to oe? |
| 17:56.36 | koen | and watch your computer grind |
| 17:57.08 | emte | lol |
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| 17:57.42 | koen | or locate .tiff | xargs gimp if you have a few gigs of satelite data |
| 17:57.59 | aquadran | zecke_: yes, so i don't need send to you patch twice :) |
| 18:05.29 | zecke_ | aquadran: but there is no asus support in Opie itself? |
| 18:07.12 | aquadran | zecke_: add asus support (device) for opie is very easy. only that new definition series thing stop me |
| 18:10.32 | aquadran | zecke_: i could simply copy from ipaq, and modify needed changes for asus device |
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| 18:11.56 | zecke_ | aquadran: let me push your OE changes first... |
| 18:12.04 | zecke_ | aquadran: I'm still at verifying revs |
| 18:15.13 | aquadran | zecke_: could i simply add new asus serie id on two bits ? |
| 18:16.46 | zecke_ | aquadran: we could slim the iPAQ and other numbers to make place for new devices |
| 18:17.43 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6c9825d3... 10/packages/evas/ (evas-x11_0.9.9.013.bb evas_0.9.9.013.inc): Ship all available evas-tests |
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| 18:29.49 | gremlin[it] | good evening ;) |
| 18:30.42 | koen | EVAS BENCH: 0.194 <- X on h5550 |
| 18:30.57 | koen | EVAS BENCH: 0.308 <- X on hx4700 |
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| 18:31.51 | koen | EVAS BENCH: 0.391 <- FB on hx4700 |
| 18:33.02 | aquadran | zecke_: yes |
| 18:33.17 | gremlin[it] | mhhh ... :) ... i tought long time why not gpe on gdk-fb :) |
| 18:33.43 | koen | maybe because gtk-fb is unmaintained? |
| 18:34.07 | gremlin[it] | yes i know ;) ... i mean ... re-mantain :) |
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| 18:50.36 | zecke_ | gremlin[it]: use GDK-DirectFB |
| 18:50.41 | zecke_ | gremlin[it]: it even has Cairo support |
| 18:51.53 | gremlin[it] | zecke mhh sometimes i looke for directFB but seem to me they continue so to use old gtk sources ... or i'm wrong ? |
| 18:52.33 | zecke_ | gremlin[it]: they've an up-to-date gdk backend in their cvs |
| 18:52.57 | zecke_ | gremlin[it]: i guess both are two stoned to do regular releases... |
| 18:53.09 | zecke_ | too even... |
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| 18:54.21 | gremlin[it] | zecke ahhh ok ... yes problably i lookd only on web site not cvs :) |
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| 19:03.23 | zecke_ | gremlin[it]: Both andieh and dok live in Berlin as well and AFAIK they both are pott dudes dude ;) |
| 19:03.55 | gremlin[it] | zecke ?!?! |
| 19:04.19 | zecke_ | gremlin[it]: DirectFB authors |
| 19:04.30 | gremlin[it] | ahhhh :) :) :) |
| 19:04.54 | CosmicPenguin | explains a lot |
| 19:05.42 | gremlin[it] | hemmm ... i also have a looong time work to do ... but really i writing about a line of code for day ... as average :) |
| 19:13.25 | kergoth | i just got a call from that job i interviewed with a week ago, going in to see them tomororw morning again :) |
| 19:13.28 | kergoth | woot. |
| 19:13.38 | gremlin[it] | fine :) ... |
| 19:13.48 | zecke_ | kergoth: fine |
| 19:24.02 | Crofton | that sounds promising |
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| 19:53.04 | CosmicPenguin | sigh - I'm just running around in circles here |
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| 20:09.30 | RP | rmk: "Are you going to send this patch to the patch system?" - do you think I'm getting to him? :) |
| 20:10.53 | koen | heh |
| 20:14.32 | koen | which patch is he getting at? |
| 20:15.21 | RP | One of the ones I sent to akpm. Its marginal who it should be sent to... |
| 20:16.04 | RP | (It adds the corgi keyboard and touchscreen drivers to corgi.c) |
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| 20:20.04 | koen | hey mithro |
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| 20:27.06 | CosmicPenguin | I can't seem to get the cross compiler to call the right assembler |
| 20:27.34 | koen | you'll need a crazy toolchain monkey |
| 20:32.39 | treke|home | morning |
| 20:33.22 | treke|home | CosmicPenguin: I don't know how people can stand living in jackson |
| 20:33.44 | CosmicPenguin | Why do you think I don't live there? |
| 20:33.49 | treke|home | hehe |
| 20:33.53 | zecke_ | treke|home: a little feedback, the QAContact thingie seems to have worked |
| 20:34.03 | treke|home | I was only there 3 days and I won't mind it if I never see that city again |
| 20:34.07 | treke|home | zecke, cool |
| 20:34.24 | zecke_ | treke|home: just my tinderbox-oe@gmx.net didn't like to get mail bombed in the early days |
| 20:36.49 | CosmicPenguin | treke|home: yes, Jackson is much less fun then it might sound |
| 20:38.43 | treke|home | hehe |
| 20:39.00 | treke|home | actually all three cities we stayed in rather sucked |
| 20:39.15 | treke|home | jackson was at least visually pleasing |
| 20:39.33 | CosmicPenguin | its hard to be interesting when you process 3 million tourists a year |
| 20:40.06 | treke|home | west yellowstone was a dump. Salt Lake City was all the crap from home and all the crap from jackson combined |
| 20:40.39 | CosmicPenguin | Living in Salt Lake is an artform |
| 20:40.57 | treke|home | hehe |
| 20:41.38 | emte | aww Seattle had to have somewhere to send thier homeless ... SaltLake did it to send them all back to Seattle :P |
| 20:42.27 | treke|home | I thought it was funny that the bars closed at 8pm. If I was living there, I'd sure want to drink more. |
| 20:42.37 | treke|home | think that was wyoming though |
| 20:42.47 | gremlin[it] | good night |
| 20:43.16 | CosmicPenguin | If the bars closed at 8:00 PM, then you must have been some place funky - last call for Jackson is 1:30, 12:30 in SLC |
| 20:43.25 | treke|home | maybe it was montana |
| 20:43.28 | treke|home | I lost track |
| 20:43.55 | CosmicPenguin | We'll blame it on Montana - that sounds about right |
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| 20:53.23 | emte | Montana .. you just walk inot a feild and keep getting drunk |
| 20:53.27 | emte | into* |
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| 21:01.58 | gerwinin | lo |
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| 21:06.28 | XorA|gone | RP: is it possible to get modprobe on Z to tell you what symbol is missinf from a module? |
| 21:06.44 | koen | it should report it to syslog |
| 21:06.49 | RP | XorA|gone: I'd have though it would tell you |
| 21:06.53 | koen | (took me a while to figure that out) |
| 21:06.59 | RP | dmesg |
| 21:08.09 | XorA|gone | koen: ah cheers, modprobe just prints file not found :-) |
| 21:11.50 | XorA|gone | RP: seems in kernel hostap is b0rked :-( |
| 21:12.59 | RP | XorA|gone: Check you're using the right module. If you have internal compiled and external compiled versions both installed it can get very confused |
| 21:13.18 | RP | Especially when it uses some of one and some of the other... |
| 21:13.50 | XorA|gone | RP: only correct module installed |
| 21:14.21 | XorA|gone | Unknown Symbol ieee80211_get_crypto_ops |
| 21:14.21 | RP | XorA|gone: What's borked about it? |
| 21:15.06 | RP | It could be that's in a git tree akpm didn't pull in, or mayb we didn't compile it... |
| 21:16.27 | XorA|gone | RP: Ive run defconfig through make menuconfig to get the correct defines, I can see the file thats supposed to be in, but I dont see any option to make it compile |
| 21:16.41 | RP | Which file is it? |
| 21:18.11 | XorA|gone | RP: net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.c |
| 21:18.58 | RP | CONFIG_IEEE80211 is needed |
| 21:19.08 | RP | which depends on NET_RADIO |
| 21:19.51 | JustinP | how can I reliably get the host and target arches in a bb file (both native and cross)? |
| 21:20.42 | XorA|gone | RP: ah cheers, Ill try again |
| 21:21.09 | emte | that is normally a job for the machine, distro, and local.conf |
| 21:21.37 | emte | btw the e17 stuff does not need any native metafiles |
| 21:21.44 | emte | that stuff is long gone |
| 21:21.50 | JustinP | emte: I beg to differ |
| 21:22.01 | JustinP | edje_cc and embry_cc need to be native, don't they? |
| 21:22.09 | emte | no |
| 21:22.13 | JustinP | you'r sure? |
| 21:22.42 | emte | embryo is the complier for the embryo language that edje uses |
| 21:22.50 | JustinP | yes.... |
| 21:23.20 | JustinP | but you're failing to realize that the builds for later things (e, entrance, etc) need to run edje_cc on their datafiles (I think) |
| 21:23.38 | emte | they have interlinks, yes |
| 21:24.02 | JustinP | emte: so explain to me how I don't need native compiles of edje (and its deps) |
| 21:24.09 | emte | actually everyting interlinks |
| 21:24.52 | JustinP | to get my build working I had to compile everything native up to edje |
| 21:25.01 | JustinP | then do the cross compiles |
| 21:25.07 | emte | because you do not need to compile an intermediary version to compile the target, all you should need to do is add a do_stage to the bb |
| 21:25.24 | JustinP | I also had to move the native / cross libs out of the way to get some of the to compile (ecore is one big problem) |
| 21:25.54 | JustinP | you know what....fine, I'm not going to hack on this any more |
| 21:26.11 | emte | i cant say we have had a problem with ecore since before the iconv/gettext issue |
| 21:26.23 | JustinP | I'm just wasting my time trying to get these things to work and it seems everyone else not only has their own way to do it but others are changing things anyway |
| 21:26.28 | emte | i wonder what has changed |
| 21:26.39 | JustinP | cross/native compile problems |
| 21:26.45 | JustinP | it's linking against the wrong directory |
| 21:26.55 | JustinP | so are lots of other e libs and such |
| 21:27.26 | emte | yes, you have to clear out all the ones currently in the OE repo |
| 21:27.34 | emte | they will cause conflicts |
| 21:27.54 | emte | hmm |
| 21:27.57 | koen | emte: the ones mickeyl added today? |
| 21:28.25 | emte | koen, no JustinP is working with the new-cvs e17 stuff |
| 21:28.59 | koen | using floating cvs stuff is bad practice |
| 21:29.14 | koen | it's a last resort |
| 21:29.51 | emte | yeah we know but its ... hard to "snapshot" and still have it usable |
| 21:30.17 | emte | i gave JustinP some prelim snapshots i had ... |
| 21:30.39 | emte | i am not sure where i lost my working set |
| 21:30.49 | emte | (for bitbake) |
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| 21:31.15 | emte | hmm |
| 21:31.26 | emte | i'll reinstall BB/OE tonight |
| 21:31.41 | emte | JustinP, can you email me the set your working with? |
| 21:31.58 | emte | emte@labotomy.net |
| 21:32.16 | JustinP | emte: but they shouldn't. the cross-libs should *not* be trying to link against native libs and the native compiles should *not* be trying to link against cross libs |
| 21:32.25 | JustinP | emte: I'm going to put them in bugzilla |
| 21:32.36 | emte | whoe's bugzilla? |
| 21:32.45 | koen | emte: topic 2nd item |
| 21:34.20 | emte | your including the metafiles in the bugreport? |
| 21:34.59 | koen | that's the plan |
| 21:35.07 | koen | and it ensures they don't get lost |
| 21:35.28 | gerwinin | MickeyL did you get my mail ? |
| 21:36.02 | koen | hey gerwinin |
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| 21:37.44 | gerwinin | Hey Koen ! |
| 21:38.17 | koen | did you get my mail about attending the OE devconf? |
| 21:38.34 | zecke_ | I will be in Nürnberg from the 21st to the 24th |
| 21:38.51 | koen | tssss |
| 21:39.07 | koen | eindhoven has more mono ;) |
| 21:39.31 | gerwinin | Koen Yes |
| 21:39.32 | zecke_ | koen: did you propose that dates? |
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| 21:40.06 | koen | zecke_: it was my preference |
| 21:40.16 | koen | I'll be away the week before |
| 21:40.52 | gerwinin | Zecke : the idea is to do this on a regular basis |
| 21:42.00 | JustinP | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221 |
| 21:42.24 | zecke_ | koen: Did I propose the third or fourth week? |
| 21:42.24 | JustinP | good luck |
| 21:42.30 | emte | got it |
| 21:42.38 | emte | thnks JustinP |
| 21:42.44 | JustinP | yeah |
| 21:42.45 | koen | zecke_: I think you did both |
| 21:43.06 | emte | now i have to figure out how to convince monotone to be nice to me |
| 21:43.06 | JustinP | emte: good luck |
| 21:43.08 | zecke_ | damn I hate VServer, I wanted to do that as diploma thesis (in about one or two years...) |
| 21:43.12 | JustinP | for both |
| 21:43.21 | emte | lol |
| 21:43.29 | mickeyl | hey gerwinin |
| 21:43.34 | emte | it will be easier than the code i am trying to write |
| 21:43.44 | gerwinin | hey Mickeyl |
| 21:43.58 | subdue | mickeyl: will the bill that got passed which changes daylight savings time in the usa affect things? |
| 21:44.04 | mickeyl | gerwinin: thanks for your mail, i tried to get free but august is already too cluttered with meetings :/ |
| 21:44.21 | subdue | starts in 2007 |
| 21:44.32 | mickeyl | hmm didn't hear about that |
| 21:44.33 | gerwinin | Mickeyl okay I will make photo's and meeting notes for you |
| 21:44.36 | emte | subdue, american intelligence? |
| 21:44.38 | mickeyl | gerwinin: thanks! |
| 21:44.56 | subdue | ... beginning in 2007, the measure extends daylight-saving time by one month to save energy, starting three weeks earlier in the spring, and adding a week in the fall. |
| 21:45.09 | subdue | it's the energy bill that was just passed |
| 21:45.17 | mickeyl | JustinP: hey. sorry for the overlap, but I needed to revamp the things in order to make sure they no longer step on their toes. things are looking better now and i'm looking forward to add your cvs .bb's into |
| 21:45.21 | emte | great surge of intelligence to think that one up |
| 21:45.29 | mickeyl | JustinP: i have tweaked binconfig.bbclass |
| 21:46.01 | emte | now the US just has to buy Mother Nature off to make it work |
| 21:46.14 | mickeyl | JustinP: the only thing that can go wrong now is libtool. we need to test that. otherwise, I'm able to build everything cross and -native without removing stuff in the middle. |
| 21:46.22 | mickeyl | s/otherwise/ |
| 21:46.42 | JustinP | mickeyl: ah...when was that tweaked? |
| 21:46.54 | mickeyl | somewhere today |
| 21:46.59 | JustinP | mickeyl: ok |
| 21:47.00 | emte | Not really any different than the US passing laws that the value of PI is 4, 3.5 or 3 |
| 21:47.03 | mickeyl | i'll add some more fixes in a couple of minutes |
| 21:47.08 | emte | which they try to do every 2 years |
| 21:47.13 | JustinP | some of my hacks in there are very very not ok, but I didn't feel like cleaning it up any more |
| 21:47.31 | mickeyl | sure, it's a hell of system with all those native tools |
| 21:47.34 | JustinP | you have no idea how frustrated I feel right now |
| 21:49.04 | koen | mickeyl: I've sent you an email about evas benchmark with a native/cross confusion as a ps |
| 21:49.59 | subdue | ok |
| 21:50.03 | mickeyl | don't worry, 1st) there are been changes in cvs which i didn't look to - which means your files are valuable and 2nd) this is my 3rd attempt to get those files build in a sane way. perhaps it doesn't work out also this time and your way is better |
| 21:50.25 | mickeyl | i think there's no way to reduce the number of -native files |
| 21:50.28 | JustinP | mickeyl: I'm not doing anything special |
| 21:50.29 | mickeyl | we even wouldn't want that |
| 21:50.29 | emte | hmm |
| 21:50.43 | emte | i think monotone just locked up my browser ... |
| 21:50.56 | mickeyl | we could hack the files to use BUILD_CC for the native tools but then we wouldn't have access to the devel tools when people want to develop natively |
| 21:51.30 | XorA|gone | RP: oh well hostap and ide_cs cant access a Connect+ simultaneously :-) |
| 21:51.45 | JustinP | native builds are IMHO just fine. Unfortunately it means you either need X installed locally, need to compile a native X as part of the process, or need to make the libs not neeed X |
| 21:52.14 | JustinP | which may be possible...compile for FB or something....but I didn't get that far |
| 21:52.20 | emte | ... |
| 21:52.32 | RP | XorA|gone: Why not out of interest? |
| 21:52.56 | XorA|gone | RP: but in kernel hostap seems to be working |
| 21:53.13 | RP | XorA|gone: excellent |
| 21:53.14 | XorA|gone | RP: the ide device didnt probe |
| 21:53.54 | XorA|gone | RP: too far into voodoo for me |
| 21:53.58 | RP | I've seen patches for something to do with that. I guess they might not be in -rc5 but coming in -rc6... |
| 21:54.05 | koen | XorA|gone: I've never verified if it can actually do cf + wifi at the same tine |
| 21:54.11 | RP | XorA|gone: me too without hardware... |
| 21:54.17 | XorA|gone | RP: well I now know what to do, so I can keep testing |
| 21:54.21 | koen | XorA|gone: it could be it switches it around all the time |
| 21:54.28 | emte | stupid firefox ... trying to open a deb |
| 21:54.39 | RP | XorA|gone: Yes, excellent. I'll try and patch the external hostap when I get a moment as well... |
| 21:54.45 | JustinP | emte: then the webserver shouldn't say that it's a text file |
| 21:55.12 | RP | Although working out how to make the internal one remove the need to the external one for 2.6.13+ builds would be good... |
| 21:55.28 | RP | Maybe we can just say that that bb provides hostap? |
| 21:55.32 | emte | JustinP, nah the new firefox has some trage mime bindings |
| 21:55.36 | emte | strange* |
| 21:55.49 | emte | quite a few things it tries to handle itself now |
| 21:55.50 | XorA|gone | RP: sounds like right solution |
| 21:57.10 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r95b7d6ed... 10/packages/udev/ (5 files in 2 dirs): add udev-065 |
| 21:57.14 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rfd2834a1... 10/packages/evas/ (evas-x11_0.9.9.013.bb evas_0.9.9.013.inc): |
| 21:57.14 | CIA-4 | - evas-x11 depends on xext |
| 21:57.14 | CIA-4 | - fix evas-x11 example programs packaging |
| 21:57.18 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r111cad19... 10/packages/ecore/ (ecore-x11_0.9.9.013.bb ecore_0.9.9.013.inc): ecore depends on curl, ecore-x11 depends on evas-x11 |
| 21:57.19 | RP | mickeyl: Are you ok with shipping the mainline hostap for 2.6.13+? |
| 21:57.22 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r6ba07dcd... 10/packages/x11/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:57.22 | CIA-4 | fix wrong #define in diet-x11 Xlib.h: |
| 21:57.22 | CIA-4 | don't say you X_HAVE_UTF8_STRING if you don't... |
| 21:57.26 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r27cb5f6d... 10/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): e/libs: add some more dependencies and some implicit --with-config |
| 21:57.30 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8682c577... 10/packages/ (8 files in 7 dirs): |
| 21:57.30 | CIA-4 | e-libs: yank do_install() in all -native packages or else our precously crafted foo-config will get |
| 21:57.32 | CIA-4 | overridden with what becomes foo-config-native... grrrr! |
| 21:57.33 | mickeyl | RP: which version is mainline? |
| 21:57.50 | RP | mickeyl: Something recent I think - its very new |
| 21:57.59 | koen | ~praise mickEyl |
| 21:57.59 | ibot | All hail mickEyl! |
| 21:58.11 | mickeyl | RP: if it works, sure, why not |
| 21:58.27 | koen | mickeyl: did you had some time to run evas_fb_test on a Z? |
| 21:58.34 | RP | mickeyl: It'll save us grief everytime the break pcmcia... |
| 21:58.51 | mickeyl | koen: not yet, fought the whole day to make the things compile in a reproducable way. i'll test tomorrow |
| 21:58.59 | koen | ok |
| 21:59.08 | koen | you have my scores in your inbox :) |
| 21:59.13 | mickeyl | yep, seen them |
| 21:59.51 | mickeyl | fb is a 1/4 faster |
| 22:00.06 | JustinP | score? |
| 22:00.25 | koen | evas_fb_test and evas_software_x11_test score |
| 22:00.36 | emte | there .. thats the monotone love |
| 22:01.09 | koen | http://pastebin.ca/19579 <- benchmark results |
| 22:01.16 | JustinP | I've been asking about this linking stuff and no one answered and all of a sudden, it's fixed...after I wated all of my time |
| 22:01.47 | JustinP | I have a sneaking suspicion that all that's going to be salvagable from my bb's is the SRC_URI |
| 22:02.35 | koen | and PV |
| 22:02.36 | mickeyl | nah, it's not wasted. even if not everything can be used, you learned a lot about the problems with conflicting -native and -cross builds, don't you? this knowledge is valuable. |
| 22:02.49 | emte | JustinP, there are many parts of BB that have been canged and updated by peopel rewritting them |
| 22:03.00 | emte | the current method is not always the best |
| 22:03.13 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 22:03.36 | mickeyl | now that I touched all of those E files, I have seen that we would save a great deal of repetition if we would come up with a bbclass |
| 22:03.40 | koen | mickeyl always goes for the fast hack |
| 22:03.42 | mickeyl | that means we'll have to touch them again eventually |
| 22:03.45 | mickeyl | hah |
| 22:04.31 | JustinP | mickeyl: sort of....but I really don't remember many (any) specifics |
| 22:04.31 | mickeyl | besides, i've not even attempted E and Entrance itself |
| 22:04.52 | mickeyl | can you tell E to maximize all apps ever? |
| 22:04.56 | mickeyl | Ewm, that is |
| 22:05.22 | emte | not on any device that cannot do atleast 640x480 |
| 22:05.35 | XorA|gone | RP: 2.6.13-blah Irda is working |
| 22:05.40 | JustinP | e is perfectly usable on my C3000 |
| 22:05.46 | mickeyl | XorA|gone: woot! |
| 22:05.55 | emte | yes because it does 640x480 |
| 22:06.17 | treke|home | well I finally did it. bought a palm |
| 22:06.21 | emte | lol |
| 22:06.26 | mickeyl | congrats treke|home |
| 22:06.31 | JustinP | and enxtrance works but entranced doesn't. And I can't figure out why gpe-dm is restarting X if I don't put a "rxvt" after entrance |
| 22:06.32 | treke|home | hehe |
| 22:06.37 | mickeyl | you will gain a lot of knowledge about how to do UIs proper |
| 22:06.40 | treke|home | probably still play with the boxer |
| 22:06.41 | mickeyl | please share some with us |
| 22:06.46 | treke|home | well I've had a palm before :) |
| 22:08.05 | koen | how zaurus specific is altboot? |
| 22:08.12 | XorA|gone | RP: g-ether on 2.6.13-blah works |
| 22:08.33 | treke|home | mickeyl: finally got fed up with not being able to make sync behave and all the other annoyances |
| 22:09.21 | XorA|gone | after that testing I shall now go join wife before I get killed |
| 22:10.16 | mickeyl | heh |
| 22:10.20 | mickeyl | treke|home: i can understand that |
| 22:10.56 | treke|home | yeah |
| 22:11.39 | koen | iSync + MissingSync even syncs wince |
| 22:11.55 | koen | not that wince will survive any longer on the h2200 |
| 22:12.19 | treke|home | treo650 |
| 22:12.27 | koen | those are nice |
| 22:12.45 | treke|home | kjust can't find my old phone to gewt the sim out |
| 22:12.52 | koen | but I like to have a small phone and a slightly larger PDA |
| 22:13.50 | JustinP | koen: somewhat....not reallymuch, though, it should be usable on other devices |
| 22:14.04 | JustinP | koen: I just submitted some fixes back to COreDump as well |
| 22:14.17 | treke|home | koen, yeah. I do agree in theory |
| 22:14.28 | RP | XorA|gone: Just to confirm that, irda works and usbnet works? If so, that is excellent :) |
| 22:14.30 | treke|home | but the since i was getting a palm, it seemed like it was worth giving a shot |
| 22:16.30 | RP | mickeyl: I'm tempted to recommend shipping the next OZ with a bleeding edge kernel then ;-) |
| 22:16.54 | mickeyl | uh oh :) |
| 22:17.29 | RP | Oh, and I've nailed that pageache -mm bug that was upsetting arm. Its not an arm problem as it happens... |
| 22:17.48 | mickeyl | ah cool |
| 22:18.00 | koen | mickeyl: I've started writing down stuff at http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/drupal/?q=taxonomy/term/4/9/ |
| 22:18.00 | mickeyl | did your sounddriver work remove some of the open/close latency ß |
| 22:18.01 | mickeyl | ? |
| 22:18.17 | mickeyl | koen: cool! |
| 22:19.10 | koen | mickeyl: I think I'll have to bribe a python guru to make the Flash Assistant :) |
| 22:19.31 | mickeyl | heh we'll see |
| 22:19.38 | RP | mickeyl: Partially. Its made it use a proper wm8731 i2c driver and killed all the sharp buzzer code. Working on the main corgi code is the next step. I could be tempted just to rewrite it for ALSA now though... |
| 22:20.11 | RP | I should probably try and clean up the DMA code and merge in some of hh.org's nicer i2s code... |
| 22:20.11 | koen | mickeyl: but a download/rename/copy tool is nice to have anyway |
| 22:20.20 | mickeyl | sure thing |
| 22:20.30 | emte | how many mb is the monotone repo? |
| 22:20.41 | koen | ~60MB or so |
| 22:20.47 | emte | ouch |
| 22:20.53 | mickeyl | my db is 106 atm. |
| 22:20.54 | emte | from 900k to 60 mb |
| 22:20.58 | RP | mickeyl: I'm assuming nothing actually used the sharp buzzer code. If so, it'll have to be done from userspace where it belongs now ;-) |
| 22:20.58 | koen | bk was 250MB |
| 22:21.18 | mickeyl | RP: you mean the sharp_buz interface was still present in corgi code? |
| 22:21.22 | emte | really? ... i used to report it as 900k |
| 22:21.26 | emte | it* |
| 22:21.38 | RP | mickeyl: It was |
| 22:21.45 | mickeyl | RP: heh, what a crap. |
| 22:21.58 | RP | mickeyl: Well, half of it... |
| 22:22.08 | mickeyl | nothing uses it |
| 22:22.14 | mickeyl | not even the SharpROM |
| 22:22.28 | RP | mickeyl: no problem then. Its gone :) |
| 22:22.36 | mickeyl | RP: excellent :) |
| 22:23.01 | RP | It was hard to see it was actually all buzzer code :-/ |
| 22:23.28 | RP | I kept deleteing things and wondering if I could really get away with it :) |
| 22:23.47 | zecke_ | aquadran: pushed your changes |
| 22:24.17 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 22:24.41 | zecke_ | RP: hehe |
| 22:24.50 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r7b12967c... 10/packages/opie-button-settings/opie-button-settings.inc: |
| 22:24.50 | CIA-4 | oe/packages/opie-button-settings/opie-button-settings.inc: |
| 22:24.50 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.50 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.55 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r51aa11c8... 10/packages/qte/qte_2.3.10.bb: |
| 22:24.55 | CIA-4 | openembedded/packages/qte/qte_2.3.10.bb: |
| 22:24.55 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.56 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.57 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.00 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.09 | mickeyl | zecke: re: Opie ODevice changes: don't you think opening a subshell to 'echo' is a bit over the top when there is open and write, or even QFile and QTextStream? :)) |
| 22:25.37 | zecke_ | mickeyl: I wonder why we don't do PACKAGE_ARCH := ${MACHINE_ARCH} in opie-buttonsettings.inc? |
| 22:25.53 | zecke_ | mickeyl: obviously it is. but ODevice is opening a lot of shells already |
| 22:26.08 | zecke_ | mickeyl: that is an indicator we need a method to write a string into a file... |
| 22:26.13 | zecke_ | a static one?! |
| 22:26.17 | emte | hmm ... i think it stalled ... |
| 22:26.30 | mickeyl | zecke: why not |
| 22:26.32 | zecke_ | aquadran: do you want to change that? |
| 22:26.50 | mickeyl | zecke_: yes, PACKAGE_ARCH_opie-button-settings-pics = ${MACHINE_ARCH} would make sense |
| 22:26.56 | mickeyl | zecke: can we remove beagle support from OE? |
| 22:27.04 | mickeyl | it's for a machine that more or less never will be targetted |
| 22:27.05 | koen | writings strings to a file is fluff |
| 22:27.18 | koen | you can do that compile time |
| 22:27.25 | mickeyl | zecke_: although I'm sorry for the work you did on it :/ |
| 22:28.49 | zecke_ | mickeyl: sure I'm going to remove it |
| 22:28.55 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 22:29.01 | mickeyl | as pitiful as it may be |
| 22:29.04 | mickeyl | :) |
| 22:29.10 | mickeyl | i'll do the buttonsettings thing |
| 22:30.16 | zecke_ | mickeyl: actually lichtje has a beagle as well |
| 22:30.57 | mickeyl | that makes three of you |
| 22:31.03 | mickeyl | minus your broke one :)) |
| 22:31.44 | zecke_ | mickeyl: how do I remove a file? |
| 22:32.01 | zecke_ | ah drop |
| 22:32.06 | koen | monotone drop < file> ; rm <file> monotone commit <file> |
| 22:32.10 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 22:32.11 | mickeyl | really drop? |
| 22:32.14 | mickeyl | not just remove ? |
| 22:32.36 | mickeyl | nevermind |
| 22:32.38 | koen | you could do rm <file> ; monotone drop |
| 22:32.40 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 22:32.49 | gerwinin | mickeyl : I am not sure if beagle support should be removed , let me contact the manufacturer to see what his plans are |
| 22:32.50 | koen | 'night mickey|zzZZzz |
| 22:34.30 | RP | 'night mickey|zzZZzz |
| 22:35.21 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rcc33b7b4... 10/packages/opie-button-settings/opie-button-settings.inc: opie-buttonsettings: set MACHINE_ARCH in a more general way |
| 22:35.22 | gerwinin | night mickeyl |
| 22:41.53 | zecke_ | gerwinin: too late, but we could revert it |
| 22:42.38 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r8a1211d3... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:42.38 | CIA-4 | Beagle (MasterIA Hardware): |
| 22:42.38 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.38 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.42 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r428118c0... 10/ (12 files in 9 dirs): |
| 22:42.42 | CIA-4 | Beagle: |
| 22:42.42 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.46 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r7c9a557b... 10/packages/ (8 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:42.46 | CIA-4 | Beagle: |
| 22:42.47 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.49 | CIA-4 | :MT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 22:43.19 | zecke_ | lol I messed up |
| 22:43.25 | zecke_ | how can one commit a :MT line |
| 22:45.20 | zecke_ | and I was not able to drop the directories |
| 22:46.49 | zecke_ | good nite guy |
| 22:46.57 | treke|home | why is beagle going away? |
| 22:47.17 | zecke_ | treke|home: Only two devices are in the wild |
| 22:47.24 | zecke_ | treke|home: I've one with a broken battery ;) |
| 22:47.28 | treke|home | it get canceled? |
| 22:47.37 | zecke_ | treke|home: and lichtje has one without a serial cable |
| 22:47.54 | zecke_ | treke|home: gerwinin's company went out of business last year |
| 22:48.01 | treke|home | ah |
| 22:48.43 | zecke_ | treke|home: it could have been the 99$ PDA device |
| 22:50.03 | emte | hey i am curious ... how is it that all the "Summer of code" "winners" are doing gaim projects and nothing else? |
| 22:50.20 | zecke_ | emte: URL? |
| 22:50.36 | emte | google.com |
| 22:50.36 | zecke_ | treke|home: We will have a OpenSync hacking event in Nürnberg this month |
| 22:51.07 | zecke_ | treke|home: hopefully OpenSync will be stable enough |
| 22:51.22 | treke|home | cool |
| 22:51.50 | Twiun | can anyone login to any of the handhelds.org ipaqs? |
| 22:52.37 | zecke_ | Twiun: they could be down as france is doing admin stuff |
| 22:53.29 | ljp | hh.org is moving from CRL |
| 22:53.41 | emte | hmm where was that list ... |
| 22:54.05 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.16 | emte | wait nm |
| 22:54.25 | emte | i found only the one page and it was all gaim |
| 22:54.32 | zecke_ | treke|home: dunno |
| 22:54.52 | zecke_ | treke|home: france_ want to announce it after the move |
| 22:55.02 | treke|home | from what I could tell, CRL was going bye bye :( |
| 22:55.32 | Twiun | drat. I was looking for a remote host to login to to do some fw tests |
| 22:55.37 | zecke_ | treke|home: right, I think ti will be around for August at least |
| 22:56.28 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.29 | emte | mickey|zzZZzz, kick your monotone server |
| 22:59.56 | Twiun | treke|home++ |
| 23:01.01 | treke|home | Twiun: ? |
| 23:01.09 | treke|home | you get++ for being a normal human being? :p |
| 23:01.26 | Twiun | in an industry of typical nonhumans, sure :) |
| 23:01.32 | treke|home | haha |
| 23:01.33 | treke|home | scary |
| 23:01.58 | Twiun | treke|home: take emte's concern for the monotone server ;) |
| 23:02.13 | Twiun | treke|home: or even my complaining about fw testin |
| 23:02.30 | treke|home | well I was complaining about my magnia dying earlier :p |
| 23:03.21 | emte | yeah, i need to buy you guys more hamsters for the monotone servers |
| 23:04.14 | Twiun | hmmm, I think they just need more coke-laced chocolate pellets |
| 23:06.22 | emte | zecke, if your still curious about gaim&SOC : http://gaim.sourceforge.net/summerofcode/ |
| 23:06.32 | emte | they got 15 developers |
| 23:06.40 | emte | not all liek i first said |
| 23:08.13 | zecke_ | good nite guy |
| 23:08.21 | emte | night |
| 23:08.24 | Twiun | cia zecke_ |
| 23:08.25 | zecke_ | emte: will say something tomorrow ;) |
| 23:08.32 | emte | lol |
| 23:08.54 | emte | how does handhelds.org qualify to be a project? |
| 23:09.12 | emte | i wasnt even aware it existed as a live project |
| 23:09.33 | emte | thought it ended with HP cutting funding |
| 23:10.34 | emte | monotone that is |
| 23:11.03 | emte | pushes* |
| 23:11.56 | emte | hmm |
| 23:12.05 | emte | it paused to verify revisions ... |
| 23:25.56 | treke|home | I was under the impression that hh.o ceased to be a semi official project after the 3600 port |
| 23:27.34 | treke|home | and it was only official in the sense that some of the people at crl were able to work on it during the day because they used the results for research |
| 23:28.35 | *** join/#oe hue (N=hue@218.20.51.108) |
| 23:28.52 | emte | was one of the SOC recipients |
| 23:29.20 | emte | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SummerOfCode |
| 23:30.33 | treke|home | I'd think the worst part ( from the hh.o development point of view, not the point of view of the unemployed people ) would be the lack of a contact at hp |
| 23:31.12 | emte | so HP does still own hh.o? |
| 23:31.59 | emte | well they got 7 developers it looks like |
| 23:32.07 | emte | any of those 7 here? |
| 23:32.18 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.19 | emte | Port .NET/mono to familiar and GPE Kirill |
| 23:32.19 | emte | Graphical Calculator for familiar Richard |
| 23:32.19 | emte | Improve non-root Opie Seneca |
| 23:32.19 | emte | Rapid biometric for handhelds Jukka |
| 23:32.19 | emte | Syncing improvements to GPE Martin |
| 23:32.21 | emte | Porting/creating a IM client for GPE Mads |
| 23:32.23 | emte | handwriting recognition library Nicolas |
| 23:32.55 | emte | hope Nicolas and Jukka would be here anyway ... |
