| 00:05.25 | erkki_ | thanks all for help, gotta go now |
| 00:21.01 | CIA-7 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rb9434e85... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): nslu2-kernel 2.6.14-rc2: latest patch set |
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| 00:24.54 | coszmos | Hi, anyone seen: ERROR: Nothing provides qt3-x11 for oz? |
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| 00:31.05 | spinpress | Okay, I am now having an issue with monotone.. |
| 00:31.07 | spinpress | localhost stuff # monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db genkey williamjonah@aol.com |
| 00:31.07 | spinpress | monotone: misuse: database schemas do not match: wanted 1509fd75019aebef5ac3da3a5edf1312393b70e9, got e372b508bea9b991816d1c74680f7ae10d2a6d94. try migrating database |
| 00:31.37 | spinpress | that is the error I get when I try to continue.. (this is after I emerged the latest) |
| 00:31.46 | spinpress | Can someone please assist? |
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| 00:32.43 | mickeyl | I suggest you do what monotone tells you (monotone db migrate). And with these words I'm going to bed. G'night |
| 00:35.47 | spinpress | thanks mickeyl |
| 01:03.04 | coszmos | Hi all |
| 01:04.11 | coszmos | I'm trying to build openzaurus and I'm getting a strange error, |
| 01:04.37 | coszmos | it's looking for qt3-x11 and I can't find that tarball anywhere |
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| 01:05.26 | coszmos | hello |
| 01:06.48 | coszmos | ne1 seen that before? |
| 01:07.04 | emte | coszmos, you might want to ask in #opie |
| 01:07.22 | coszmos | lol, i'm trying to build gpe |
| 01:07.31 | emte | really/ |
| 01:07.46 | emte | never noticed gpe builds qt3 before |
| 01:08.08 | coszmos | well I did world I guess that includes qt |
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| 01:08.32 | reenoo_ | huh? |
| 01:08.32 | emte | i've not gotten that error, but if your missing the dld, search for it and override the default |
| 01:08.43 | reenoo_ | if you want gpe build gpe-image |
| 01:08.52 | emte | world is everything that is buildable |
| 01:08.52 | coszmos | coo, thx |
| 01:08.59 | reenoo_ | world builds are expected to break |
| 01:09.15 | reenoo_ | anyways. 'night all |
| 01:09.16 | coszmos | ahhhh, that makes sense? |
| 01:09.29 | emte | night |
| 01:09.29 | coszmos | thanks reenoo |
| 01:10.51 | spinpress | heh.... how long is "A REALLY LONG TIME" in reference to monotone db pull? |
| 01:13.10 | coszmos | it took me overnight |
| 01:13.15 | spinpress | wow |
| 01:13.43 | spinpress | right now, it doesnt look like its doing anything.. does it pause like that? |
| 01:14.04 | coszmos | see if you can snoop you're wire to see if traffic is going |
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| 01:14.31 | spinpress | how abouts do you snoop? |
| 01:14.58 | coszmos | on linux I use tcpdump |
| 01:15.37 | spinpress | i have to emerge that real quick |
| 01:16.24 | coszmos | or ethereal |
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| 01:19.11 | spinpress | thanks |
| 01:19.17 | coszmos | np |
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| 02:13.59 | acevin | somebody tell me how to reset the configure parameters |
| 02:15.54 | acevin | thanX .. |
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| 02:32.37 | acevin | hi aquadran |
| 02:35.50 | coszmos | Can anyone give me a hand figuring out a build issue? |
| 02:40.17 | coszmos | keep getting a failure on linux-jlime-sh... argh |
| 02:41.31 | coszmos | ux-2.6.11' |
| 02:41.31 | coszmos | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/bcc/oetemp/work/linux-jlime-sh3-2.6.11-r0/linux-2.6.11' |
| 02:41.31 | coszmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.31 | coszmos | cc1: error: invalid option `l' |
| 02:41.31 | coszmos | cc1: error: invalid option `3' |
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| 03:17.44 | spinpress | can i pull oe db in root? |
| 03:18.33 | JustinP | spinpress: don't do things as root unless you have to |
| 03:18.55 | JustinP | spinpress: and you never have to with OE (except setting up the Zaurus kernel compiler if you need it) |
| 03:18.59 | spinpress | okay, i had to do a couple of things.. and I got to the pulling part.. will that mess anything up? |
| 03:19.56 | JustinP | spinpress: no, but don't do it |
| 03:20.18 | spinpress | i already started it.. like 5 hours ago.... thats why I was asking |
| 03:20.28 | spinpress | if i needed to stop now, and start over |
| 03:20.30 | JustinP | mickey|zzZZzz: I got EFL and such all upgraded and compiling (except elitaire) but AppleBoy took my dev server down so I can't commit anything.... |
| 03:20.36 | JustinP | spinpress: no, you don't have to stop |
| 03:20.43 | JustinP | spinpress: just don't do anything else as root |
| 03:20.57 | spinpress | thanks.. i will exit root as soon as i can |
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| 03:43.02 | emte | JustinP, you shoulda probably given him a reason why :) |
| 03:44.09 | JustinP | why didn't you? |
| 03:47.59 | emte | wasnt here |
| 03:48.18 | emte | just finished watching a show |
| 03:48.31 | emte | missed him by a minute it looks like :( |
| 03:51.46 | emte | this is gonna be a wonderful experiance ... |
| 03:52.15 | emte | i need to buy vmware ... |
| 03:55.23 | emte | hmm |
| 03:55.36 | emte | maybe i should just buy a cheap computer ... |
| 03:55.40 | emte | would be cheaper |
| 03:56.10 | NAiL | takes up a lot of physical space though :P |
| 03:56.23 | emte | yeah i know |
| 03:56.38 | emte | but i'd need to buy vmware+XP |
| 03:56.40 | NAiL | I'm kind of trying to get rid of my PC's |
| 03:57.00 | emte | which is a bit more than another system |
| 03:57.06 | NAiL | ah yes |
| 03:57.38 | emte | too bad you cant purchase xen+XP |
| 03:58.56 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.13 | emte | got a bunch of free junk today ... wonder whats in it.. |
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| 04:08.00 | nickv111 | This is odd. Whenever I attempt to build anything for x86 using openembedded, it tries to compile glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r0 and fails with this: |
| 04:08.14 | nickv111 | | ../ports/sysdeps/unix/sysv/i386/signal.S: Assembler messages: |
| 04:08.14 | nickv111 | | ../ports/sysdeps/unix/sysv/i386/signal.S:31: Error: open CFI at the end of file; missing .cfi_endproc directive |
| 04:09.25 | emte | you disable most of the patches? |
| 04:31.28 | nickv111 | emte: What do you mean? |
| 04:31.50 | nickv111 | emte: I never disabled anything... |
| 04:32.26 | emte | you might want to check and see which patches get applied |
| 04:33.17 | nickv111 | Maybe the latest monotone pull will help |
| 04:33.44 | emte | i wouldnt count on it |
| 04:33.59 | emte | all the arm and pxa, etc patches are getting applied |
| 04:34.16 | emte | they might not behave well for x86 |
| 04:34.23 | emte | its a thought anyway |
| 04:34.28 | nickv111 | Well, I never disabled anything |
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| 04:35.49 | nickv111 | monotone update seems to be doing /something/ |
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| 04:40.46 | nickv111 | Well, thanks |
| 04:40.59 | nickv111 | I think the monotone update did something, though. It fixed the glibc stuff |
| 04:41.10 | nickv111 | I doubt I'll have that problem anymore. Somebody's probably noticed |
| 04:41.15 | nickv111 | Time for bed, anyway |
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| 06:27.17 | alan|home | lo |
| 06:27.37 | Bernardo | good morning |
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| 07:51.24 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:06.26 | Arjan_ | koen: good morning! long time no see :) |
| 08:07.57 | koen | hey Arjan_ |
| 08:08.22 | Arjan_ | was just starting with OE again, fetched the latest repo from the backup server (monotone.vanille.de is down), but I can't build it due to your changes in familiar-0.8.3.conf |
| 08:08.31 | Arjan_ | am I supposed to use something else atm? |
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| 08:09.50 | koen | yes, the oz354fam083 branch |
| 08:10.23 | koen | you have to add that to your pull |
| 08:10.50 | Arjan_ | I did, but the file doesn't change... should I remove the file before pulling? |
| 08:11.26 | koen | and you have to do either a new co with that branch or monotone update -b <branc> |
| 08:12.01 | Arjan | oh and btw, the nslu2-linux tree is denied on the backup server |
| 08:12.08 | Arjan | ah thanks, I'll try |
| 08:12.35 | koen | yes, the nslu2-linux branch is gone |
| 08:12.37 | hrw|work | hi |
| 08:12.46 | RP | morning all |
| 08:12.57 | Arjan | koen: ah ok... it's still in the wiki :) |
| 08:13.05 | koen | it is? |
| 08:13.12 | koen | could you remove it? |
| 08:13.16 | Arjan | in the MonotonePhrasebook it is, yes |
| 08:13.29 | Arjan | I don't think I have access to the openembedded.org wiki |
| 08:13.55 | koen | everyone has |
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| 08:18.10 | Bernardo | hi guys |
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| 08:19.13 | koen | hey Bernardo |
| 08:22.48 | Bernardo | I never imagined a toolchain would build that fast on a amd64 in 64 bits mode... |
| 08:23.35 | Bernardo | hey koen, how are things? |
| 08:25.51 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 08:25.52 | RP | hi Bernardo |
| 08:26.23 | RP | Bernardo: I saw your comment about the akita kernel - yes, you can base one on the spitz kernel. I'll try to remember to add an akita on |
| 08:26.54 | Bernardo | hi RP |
| 08:26.57 | Bernardo | hi hrw|work |
| 08:26.58 | RP | The only difference is the commandline, everything else is can be the same... |
| 08:27.44 | Bernardo | RP: ok, thanks |
| 08:28.06 | Bernardo | last night I had 30 minutes to build a 2.95 toolchain and try to build a image with kernel 2.4 |
| 08:28.38 | Bernardo | I decided to try that before going to 2.6 |
| 08:29.01 | Bernardo | so if I found any bugs they would be because of my setup or real, not because I was trying 2.6 |
| 08:29.26 | RP | Looking at the files, you can just copy defconfig-spitz to defconfig-akita and it should just work |
| 08:30.21 | Bernardo | ok, will try that |
| 08:30.33 | Bernardo | after I find why bluez-ndbus-utils won't find bluez-libs in configure |
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| 08:41.13 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 08:42.37 | Bernardo | hi ade|desk |
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| 09:27.29 | hrw|work | RP: Pavel get BT working from my image - thats nice... |
| 09:28.01 | hrw|work | RP: does he has any place where his progress can be found? (other then watching git tree) |
| 09:32.43 | hrw|work | "I also met one of the ugliest code in my life - zaurus battery charging one." - quote from Pavel blog |
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| 09:34.35 | reenoo_ | morning |
| 09:35.20 | pb_ | hi reenoo_ |
| 09:35.35 | reenoo_ | morning pb_ |
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| 09:44.40 | RP | hrw|work: His git tree is the way he publishes his work |
| 09:44.57 | RP | hrw|work: We should really try and make some patches from it to add to OE |
| 09:45.30 | RP | hrw|work: The battery code is horrible... |
| 09:45.55 | koen | RP: would adding a linux-pawel_git.bb be a solution? |
| 09:46.18 | koen | since we have a shiney new git fetcher :) |
| 09:46.18 | RP | koen: If we could add my git patches to bitbake :) |
| 09:46.49 | RP | I really need to get them rediffed and pester zecke__ :) |
| 09:48.10 | hrw|work | and we should pester kergoth to get 1.3.x bitbake released |
| 09:53.21 | reenoo_ | nah, better have him enable the release bits on zecke__'s account |
| 09:57.26 | hrw|work | yep - that would be ideal |
| 09:58.01 | koen | or both |
| 09:58.12 | hrw|work | ~lart samba |
| 09:59.07 | hrw|work | someone know how to make KDE show names in samba network? now it show IP only.. and they are dynamic so I have to guess does PPOSP is .114 or .107 today.. |
| 09:59.21 | XorA | hrw|work: install and setup winbind |
| 09:59.57 | hrw|work | heh.. yet another daemon.. |
| 10:00.36 | hrw|work | sometimes I hate how things are done in linux.. |
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| 10:00.54 | hrw|work | in the morning I had to reboot just because one process was "D" |
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| 12:09.04 | lardman|work | koen|uni: ping |
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| 12:17.53 | hrw|work | hi lardman|lunch |
| 12:39.17 | koen | lardman|lunch: pong |
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| 13:20.15 | lardman|work | koen: hi there, looks like a flame war might be about to kick off on oesf ;) |
| 13:21.02 | koen | you mean our OE forum? |
| 13:21.26 | lardman|work | yeah, something like that :D |
| 13:21.32 | koen | where people discuss opensource *cough*sharprom, cacko *cough* ROMs? |
| 13:21.53 | lardman|work | yep, sounds like the one |
| 13:22.07 | koen | I'll check later this afternoon |
| 13:22.24 | Bernardo | lardman|work: in what forum? |
| 13:22.31 | lardman|work | No one's bitten after my post, perhaps I bored them into submission ;) |
| 13:22.38 | koen | I bet the debian on oz topic |
| 13:22.42 | lardman|work | yep |
| 13:22.43 | hrw|work | yes |
| 13:22.48 | lardman|work | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15143&hl= |
| 13:24.45 | koen | that thread demonstrates exactly why developers dislike forums: users are to lazy to search |
| 13:25.35 | lardman|work | yes, I quite agree - when I used the devnet back in the old days, it felt like the developer:user ratio was far larger |
| 13:25.59 | hrw|work | lardman|work: nice post you did |
| 13:26.06 | lardman|work | which meant far less back-biting and other useless opinions (which is what really annoys me about it atm) |
| 13:26.11 | koen | that's why I like ipaq users better: they have been exposed to wince and are gratefull for what you do |
| 13:26.21 | lardman|work | koen: ;) |
| 13:26.39 | lardman|work | hrw|work: We do need to get some positive publicity I think |
| 13:26.48 | koen | After each release I get loads of 'thank you' mails |
| 13:26.55 | koen | instead of 'foo is better' :) |
| 13:26.59 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Well, perhaps need is too strong a word, but it can't hurt |
| 13:27.39 | Bernardo | hrw|work: you're too diplomatic |
| 13:28.04 | lardman|work | koen: yeah, the thing is there seems to be a vocal minority who have opinions they don't backup, and in general we (oz & OE devs) are copping the flak |
| 13:28.43 | lardman|work | (hmm, is copping even word...?) |
| 13:29.02 | hrw|work | Bernardo: sometimes I think that when I will write what I think then it will be disaster |
| 13:29.25 | lardman|work | I get that too - I write it, then leave it for 10min, then come back and re-write |
| 13:29.38 | hrw|work | ~change 17 gbp to pln |
| 13:29.58 | hrw|work | lardman|work: how much cost posting from UK to Poland? |
| 13:30.13 | hrw|work | http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?SAN-SDG1GB - SD 1GB card for 16.32 GBP.. |
| 13:31.15 | Bernardo | hrw, that is way cheap |
| 13:31.21 | Bernardo | even with posting |
| 13:31.25 | koen | ~change 17 gbp to eur |
| 13:31.39 | koen | wow |
| 13:31.47 | koen | 1GB sandisk is E63 here |
| 13:32.04 | lucasvo | koen: in switzerland I pay 80CHF for 512 mb |
| 13:32.09 | Bernardo | I can't open that page in firefox... |
| 13:32.21 | Bernardo | here I payed 80 euro for 1Gb 50x sd card |
| 13:32.26 | lucasvo | ~change 80 chf to eur |
| 13:32.36 | lucasvo | lol |
| 13:33.53 | lardman|work | Looking at the site, I can only see 1GB sandisk cards for £58.64+VAT |
| 13:35.06 | lardman|work | There's a 1GB SD for £31.80+VAT though which isn#'t bad |
| 13:35.17 | lardman|work | http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?RAM-SDM1G |
| 13:35.45 | Bernardo | can't open the link hrw posted, looks like the site was /.ed |
| 13:36.12 | hrw|work | now I got: "We were unable to find this Product in our database" |
| 13:36.21 | lardman|work | that's what I got too |
| 13:36.49 | lardman|work | I've got a 16Mb SD card atm :D |
| 13:36.57 | Bernardo | I still get "The are currently no reviews for this product:", but it doesn't show any product |
| 13:37.25 | hrw|work | ~change 160 pln to gpb |
| 13:37.35 | hrw|work | ~change 160 pln to gbp |
| 13:37.45 | hrw|work | lardman|work: I have 64M in collie and 256M in camera |
| 13:38.12 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Yes, my 256 moved into my camera and I'm 'using' the 16 which cam with that |
| 13:38.20 | lardman|work | s/cam/came |
| 13:39.09 | hrw|work | lardman|work: my camera has 12M builtin memory so it was without card |
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| 13:46.30 | hrw|work | I have 16M cf from camera (not mine camera) |
| 13:47.21 | lardman|work | I've got a 512MB CF which contains my local feed, plus mp3s, videos, etc. |
| 13:53.28 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm... my interactive shell compile is brokenish - has that been fixed in say, the last 6 months? |
| 13:56.30 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:15.16 | koen | any volunteers for adding kopi and stuff for X11 to OE? |
| 14:15.38 | hrw|work | do we have qt3/x11 working? |
| 14:18.35 | koen | yes |
| 14:18.39 | koen | lyx uses it |
| 14:18.46 | hrw|work | the problem can be with shared libs |
| 14:18.48 | koen | and lyx works :) |
| 14:19.14 | hrw|work | I dont know does kdepimpi/x11 libs have same or other libs then /qte versions |
| 14:19.58 | hrw|work | hostap-modules 0.4.5 builds fine. not tested |
| 14:20.08 | hrw|work | hostapd 0.4.5 does not |
| 14:21.09 | hrw|work | koen: will you volonteer to add portabase/x11? :P |
| 14:22.13 | hrw|work | libs have same names ;( |
| 14:22.49 | hrw|work | so we could end with /usr/lib/libmicrokdepim.so and /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libmicrokdepim.so |
| 14:23.16 | hrw|work | x11 version will work as it wont have /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/ in LD_LIBRARY_PATH but /qte version will fail |
| 14:23.28 | koen | didn't zecke solve staging for qt a while ago? |
| 14:23.38 | lardman|work | koen: been reading the other thread I replied to then...? |
| 14:23.44 | koen | how many people will have opie and X together? |
| 14:23.49 | koen | lardman|work: yes |
| 14:23.50 | hrw|work | koen: on device? who knows.. |
| 14:24.03 | koen | do we want to support that? |
| 14:24.15 | hrw|work | no manpower for this |
| 14:24.19 | lardman|work | hrw|work: If they have the skills to set up the two together then they have the skills to deal with the lib issues I'd say |
| 14:24.24 | koen | I think not, with all the libsdl and other qte mangled libs |
| 14:27.20 | hrw|work | how to use pdax feed: first do "mv *.ipk *.ipk.tar.gz" |
| 14:29.26 | hrw|work | qt3x11 needs mysql-native????? ARGH.. |
| 14:29.42 | hrw|work | looks like it will build whole weekend... |
| 14:30.42 | lardman|work | This is kdepimpi/x11? |
| 14:30.57 | hrw|work | lardman|work: I probably can build kdepimpi/x11 |
| 14:31.51 | lardman|work | hrw|work: another non-reason for people to choose pdaXrom if you can |
| 14:32.03 | hrw|work | will it be kopi-x11, kapi-x11, kopi-applet-x11, pwmpi-x11? but how to name libs? |
| 14:32.31 | lardman|work | What you were talking about a few minutes ago? Collisions between x11 & opie versions? |
| 14:32.47 | hrw|work | lardman|work: yes |
| 14:33.17 | lardman|work | hrw|work: As you said, there are already collisions between things like sdl, I'd leave them with their normal names |
| 14:33.40 | hrw|work | libmicrokcal1 is for qt/e so libmicrokcal1-x11 for x11? |
| 14:34.03 | koen | hrw|work: doesn't qt/e need mysql too? |
| 14:34.10 | lardman|work | The two don;'t need to be built together though do they, so they could share the same names |
| 14:34.11 | koen | hrw|work: iirc schurig needed it |
| 14:34.48 | hrw|work | lardman|work: kdepimpi libs are different for x11 and qt/e I think |
| 14:34.59 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Or is it easy to rename them? libX11microcal1? |
| 14:35.27 | hrw|work | lardman|work: I can rename them - but how to fool shlibs code? will have to look into |
| 14:35.45 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Well don;'t rename them. libsdl is different too |
| 14:36.52 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Just accept that they will have to be removed if someone wants to do an opie build rather than a gpe build |
| 14:36.52 | koen | we have been lazy |
| 14:36.52 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE-20050929-20050930.diff.bz2 is only 3.2 kb |
| 14:36.53 | hrw|work | lardman|work: what about "bitbake world" for release then? |
| 14:36.53 | koen | hrw|work: that doesn't work |
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| 14:36.53 | koen | never did |
| 14:36.55 | hrw|work | koen: resting day after branch |
| 14:36.55 | lardman|work | hrw|work: That doesn't work anyway though does it |
| 14:37.04 | lardman|work | need a bitbake gpe world, etc. |
| 14:37.38 | hrw|work | who will add fvwm, blackbox and few other strange WM? |
| 14:37.40 | koen | remove qmake -> bitbake work, clean, remove x11 -> bitbake world |
| 14:37.47 | koen | s/work/world/ |
| 14:38.13 | koen | that's pretty much the only way to get a working set of apps |
| 14:39.02 | hrw|work | ok |
| 14:39.28 | lardman|work | Do we realistically want more wms? Which is the one most of the pdaXrom lot are showing screenshots of - I'd say add that and be done witrh it |
| 14:41.20 | lardman|work | Fluxbox? |
| 14:41.38 | hrw|work | or xfce which we have already (maybe not polished but have) |
| 14:41.56 | lardman|work | No it was xfce I was thinking of |
| 14:42.02 | lardman|work | or rather yes .... |
| 14:42.43 | koen | we'll need a config gadget to select wms in GPE |
| 14:43.02 | koen | or ship a seperate xfce-image |
| 14:43.05 | lardman|work | I don;t think they do that, they have to edit the init scripts |
| 14:43.15 | koen | so we can be even better :) |
| 14:43.20 | lardman|work | of course :) |
| 14:43.35 | hrw|work | do we have twm? I got it as default on pdaX :) |
| 14:44.25 | lardman|work | Is that a joke? (I don;'t know enough about wms) |
| 14:44.51 | lardman|work | We should try to get a useable e-image out though, that's cool. |
| 14:44.55 | hrw|work | lardman|work: twm suxx but It was WM which I got after pdax install |
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| 14:45.44 | skytee | hi |
| 14:45.49 | lardman|work | What about rox - there seems to be lots of talk about that |
| 14:46.25 | koen | rox is lightweight like xfce |
| 14:46.30 | hrw|work | I know how to build it (maintained it for Debian for over year) but I refuse to do any work on it |
| 14:46.43 | koen | where 'lightweight' means 'annoys me' |
| 14:47.21 | lardman|work | I was meaning to add xmms (just remembered seeing a pdaXrom screenshot) |
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| 14:47.40 | koen | ugh |
| 14:47.41 | lardman|work | even though it uses old gtk+ |
| 14:47.44 | hrw|work | lardman|work: we have beepmp already |
| 14:47.46 | koen | talk about ugly gtk1 apps |
| 14:47.47 | skytee | hmm, something' |
| 14:47.57 | koen | beepmp doesn't work on 16k displays |
| 14:47.58 | lardman|work | hrw|work: beepmp doesn't display correctly |
| 14:48.13 | hrw|work | so let someone fix it? |
| 14:48.33 | lardman|work | I thought it was a major hack |
| 14:48.42 | lardman|work | would need some major hacking |
| 14:49.07 | skytee | hmm, something's wrong in ipkg-link-1.6cvs20050930-r1. bitbaking bootstrap-image give the message "ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied" and I don't know why ipkg wants to create a dir on the host file system. |
| 14:49.28 | hrw|work | skytee: ignore it |
| 14:49.46 | skytee | hrw|work: bitbake fails due to that. |
| 14:49.56 | reenoo_ | it doesn't |
| 14:50.01 | lardman|work | skytee: no, search the log for ERROR |
| 14:50.20 | lardman|work | (iirc) |
| 14:50.42 | lardman|work | Time to do some work I fear |
| 14:54.11 | skytee | while doing "bitbake bootstrap-image" |
| 14:54.13 | skytee | -- | ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied |
| 14:54.14 | skytee | | Nothing to be done |
| 14:54.14 | skytee | | An error ocurred, return value: 4. |
| 14:54.14 | skytee | | Collected errors: |
| 14:54.15 | skytee | | Cannot find package task-bootstrap. -- |
| 14:54.38 | skytee | a little confusing. what dou you suppose where to look for the cause? |
| 14:54.43 | hrw|work | 30 16:56 < skytee> | Cannot find package task-bootstrap. -- |
| 14:54.45 | hrw|work | here |
| 14:57.09 | skytee | jupp. maybe it is just a coincidence that bitbake pulled ipkg-link-1.6cvs20050930-r1 and the error occured right after that. |
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| 15:06.24 | koen | and another bug bites the dust |
| 15:08.53 | CosmicPenguin | koen: is -c compile <provider> expected to work these days? |
| 15:09.09 | koen | it should |
| 15:09.23 | koen | although I usually on;y use that with -b file.bb |
| 15:09.28 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, me too |
| 15:10.03 | CosmicPenguin | but I'm starting to play more with the interactive shell, and I want to start perfecting compiling and packaging the kernel without refetching |
| 15:10.22 | CosmicPenguin | but the -c compile is causing me an exception way up in quilt for some reason |
| 15:11.02 | koen | can't you do 'compile <provider>' in bbsh? |
| 15:11.07 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
| 15:11.23 | CosmicPenguin | I thought it might have been a bbsh thing, but the command line does the same thing |
| 15:12.02 | CosmicPenguin | ew |
| 15:12.43 | CosmicPenguin | NOTE: package quilt-native-0.39: started |
| 15:12.43 | CosmicPenguin | ERROR: InvalidTask event exception, aborting |
| 15:12.43 | CosmicPenguin | NOTE: package quilt-native-0.39: failed |
| 15:12.43 | CosmicPenguin | ERROR: Build of quilt failed |
| 15:13.31 | CosmicPenguin | but the -b method works |
| 15:13.43 | kergoth`zzz | hmm thats odd. used to work. try -c do_compile maybe? |
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| 15:14.28 | CosmicPenguin | please wait 16 hours while my poor opteron chokes on the caching |
| 15:14.31 | CosmicPenguin | opteron(s) |
| 15:15.35 | hrw|work | kergoth: can you add permissions on berlios for zecke to release bitbake 1.3? |
| 15:15.45 | kergoth | k |
| 15:16.34 | hrw|work | cool - too many new users start with 1.2.1 (last release) and have problems |
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| 15:17.50 | kergoth | ah |
| 15:19.06 | hrw|work | ERROR: dependency qt3-x11 (for qt-x11-free) not satisfied |
| 15:19.08 | hrw|work | arg |
| 15:19.12 | hrw|work | h |
| 15:19.37 | Sess | anyone got a C3000 and installed GPE on it? |
| 15:19.49 | Noodles | Sess: Yes. |
| 15:19.55 | Sess | I've found no references for spitz and GPE anywhere on the oe forums |
| 15:20.00 | Sess | a little help noodles? |
| 15:20.13 | Sess | I want true X on my c3000 and Xqt is pretty slow |
| 15:20.28 | Sess | gimp is unusable |
| 15:20.32 | jbowler-zzz | mickey|zzZZzz: python 2.4.1 isn't building for me because all its patches are now in python-2.4.2 (but there is no python_2.4.2.bb) |
| 15:20.47 | Noodles | My gpe-image is from 17th Sept and worked IIRC. |
| 15:21.08 | Sess | noodles, where can I get teh GPE image |
| 15:21.14 | koen | gimp is unusable with 64MB ram |
| 15:21.33 | Noodles | Sess: Oh, I built it myself. I don't know if there's a GPE release available for Spitz atm. |
| 15:21.55 | Sess | koen: I've used gimp on the ipaq 3650 running opie years ago |
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| 15:22.16 | Sess | so me thinks it should work fine on the c3000 with an accelerated X |
| 15:22.18 | Sess | server |
| 15:22.21 | koen | ok, a recent gimp is unusable on 64 mb |
| 15:22.34 | Sess | Im just want 1.2.5 working and Ill be happy |
| 15:22.55 | Sess | well, perhaps you can answer this |
| 15:22.59 | koen | ah, I tried gimp 2.3.3 |
| 15:23.15 | Sess | is it possible to "switch" virtual terminals on teh C3000 running the latest cacko rom? |
| 15:23.25 | hrw|work | ~lart mickey|zzZZzz for ERROR: dependency qt3-x11 (for qt-x11-free) not satisfied |
| 15:23.34 | hrw|work | Sess: do we support cacko? |
| 15:23.42 | skytee | hmm, http://www.oesources.org/source/current/busybox-1.01.tar.gz is missing |
| 15:24.05 | Sess | you make a good point |
| 15:24.27 | Sess | it says it right in teh topic, pardon me plz |
| 15:25.33 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: do_compile didn't work either |
| 15:26.30 | skytee | awe... you mean i state the wrong questions? |
| 15:28.31 | hrw|work | skytee: grab it from busybox.net then |
| 15:31.12 | Sess | hrw|work: I just found in the forum some german guys build of GPE for the spitz, I think Im gonna try it |
| 15:31.41 | Sess | I wanted to ask first, if there was by chance GPE library that handled QT apps |
| 15:32.18 | Sess | I would assume that would allow for some opie compatibility, or perhaps Im just wrong about teh way qtopia and opie work |
| 15:32.44 | Sess | like a special gpe libqt |
| 15:32.58 | koen | heh |
| 15:33.09 | koen | gpe is all about not needing qtopia/qt |
| 15:33.41 | CosmicPenguin | much like my life |
| 15:34.07 | koen | except s/qtopia/intel/ ? |
| 15:34.22 | CosmicPenguin | more like += intel |
| 15:34.36 | CosmicPenguin | But I need intel in my life - otherwise, who would we beat? |
| 15:36.02 | Sess | ook, Im going for it |
| 15:36.09 | hrw|work | Sess: help moving opie to qt4/x11 so you will get X11 with opie stuff |
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| 15:37.28 | Sess | hrw|work: I've never really done any handheld linux development. I've only done some Pocketpc game programming, and written a few larger desktop linux apps |
| 15:37.44 | Sess | Im trying to break into zaurus development, but I haven't even gotten my onboard dev environment variables set yet |
| 15:37.58 | Sess | If I can get GPE working Im in ;) |
| 15:38.53 | mickey|sports | cya |
| 15:39.10 | mickey|sports | hrw, jbowler-zzz: bugs fixed |
| 15:39.19 | Sess | also I hope I don't get flamed for asking this, but pdaXrom looks sweet. I haven't used GPE for years, not since it was very unstable on the ipaq 3600. I want pure X with PDA functionality, so I assume that GPE is the best choice.. |
| 15:39.45 | Sess | so the Q is pdaXrom or GPE for mobile development and PDA |
| 15:40.11 | CIA-7 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf0fa6efb... 10/classes/ (qt3x11.bbclass qt4x11.bbclass): class qt3x11, qt4x11: remove DEPENDS |
| 15:40.15 | CIA-7 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5ef8750d... 10/packages/python/ (python_2.4.1.bb python_2.4.2.bb): python: upgrade to 2.4.2 |
| 15:40.22 | zecke | Sess: well, I donk't know, Why not ask the pdaXrom people? |
| 15:40.52 | Sess | because I don't know about the changes in GPE since 2002 |
| 15:41.05 | lardman|afk | Ask hrw, he tried psaXrom yesterday |
| 15:41.10 | lardman|afk | pdaXrom even |
| 15:41.22 | lardman|afk | Only lasted a matter of hours though ;) |
| 15:42.05 | Sess | well I suppose it doesn't really even matter, Im pretty set on installing GPE |
| 15:42.21 | hrw|work | cu |
| 15:42.22 | Sess | I guess Im a little nervous about flashing someone elses untested build onto my zaurus |
| 15:44.14 | reenoo_ | kergoth: happen to know whether there's any way to get at ${PV} of another .bb? is that possible at all? |
| 15:44.32 | kergoth | of which .bb? |
| 15:44.44 | kergoth | point being, you can have multiple; versions of a thing around |
| 15:44.53 | jbowler-zzz | mickeyl: thanks, got the changes (I'm putting in PREFERRED_PROVIDER_x11 ?= "diet-x11" |
| 15:44.58 | kergoth | your real question is.. "how can i get the ${PV} of the currently selected provider of X" |
| 15:45.07 | kergoth | to which the answer is, i'm afraid not, but itd be nice |
| 15:45.09 | reenoo_ | kergoth: right |
| 15:45.20 | kergoth | :) |
| 15:45.21 | reenoo_ | hmm. too bad |
| 15:46.16 | reenoo_ | I'm trying to get dependency info for non-C/C++ libs right. |
| 15:47.22 | reenoo_ | i.e. I need the >= ${PV of lib} in RDEPENDS :/ |
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| 15:47.51 | kergoth | look at how it works for our shlibs |
| 15:47.55 | kergoth | its ugly. very ugly. but it works |
| 15:48.05 | kergoth | it writes out seperate files with such info into staging |
| 15:48.10 | kergoth | then reads them later |
| 15:48.40 | reenoo_ | yeah. I know. just thought there must be an easier way ;) |
| 15:49.01 | kergoth | hehe. if there was, it wouldnt be doing it that way ;) |
| 15:49.23 | reenoo_ | nod |
| 15:55.50 | lardman|busy | Sess: See if Noodles can provide you with his build |
| 16:10.43 | Sess | what would I rename pivot-boot.image.img to if I were flashing my system? would that be initrd.img so it redirects booting from teh flash to the cf microdrive? |
| 16:11.33 | lardman|busy | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/installation/sl-c3000/ ? |
| 16:12.06 | Sess | lardman, Already read that |
| 16:12.44 | Sess | Im was just looking at someone elses build of GPE, it has the pivotboot file, but I wanted to be sure I knew what I was doing first |
| 16:12.56 | Sess | no initrd.img, and no updater.sh |
| 16:13.09 | lardman|busy | Move this to #openzaurus, then give me an url and I'll take a guess |
| 16:13.16 | Sess | k |
| 16:24.52 | CosmicPenguin | THis -c compile thing is irritating me |
| 16:26.23 | zecke | cya later |
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| 16:36.20 | JustinP | kergoth: in bitbake (the code) is there any storage of inter-file dependencies? i.e. if one bb file includes or inherits another is this information stored? |
| 16:36.31 | JustinP | kergoth: if not, any idea where I should look specifically? |
| 16:37.15 | kergoth | for inherit, yes, for include, i dont think so |
| 16:37.16 | lardman|busy | night all |
| 16:37.20 | kergoth | look in the parser |
| 16:37.41 | kergoth | if all you care about is inherit, look at the function in base.bbclass that checks if something is inherited |
| 16:37.55 | JustinP | ok |
| 16:38.26 | JustinP | I'm wanting to update the "reparse" command to reparse all related files |
| 16:38.34 | kergoth | good luck. |
| 16:38.38 | JustinP | thanks |
| 16:41.01 | koen | why do people keep thinking 'arm' patches to glibc will interfere with other archs? |
| 16:41.12 | JustinP | sorry |
| 16:41.24 | JustinP | sometimes patches have architecture specific things |
| 16:41.24 | koen | if that was the case, it would have been SRC_URI_append_arm = "foo" |
| 16:41.37 | JustinP | I haven't heard anyone refute that so I keep saying it |
| 16:42.01 | JustinP | I'll stop now, then |
| 16:42.25 | koen | chris144 was building for x86 |
| 16:43.09 | koen | I think he solved the problem by using a newer glibc version |
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| 16:51.44 | koen | ~seen chris144 |
| 16:51.49 | ibot | chris144 <n=kvirc@195.234.128.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 14d 19h 41m 24s ago, saying: 'not bad, still working on hardware stuff, I hope to be back on oe in a few months... :-)'. |
| 16:51.49 | koen | ~seen chris144|home |
| 16:51.50 | ibot | chris144|home <n=kvirc@195.234.128.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 12d 21h 33m 54s ago, saying: 'koen: glibc+cvs20050917 is building. thanks for your help.'. |
| 16:52.00 | koen | woohoo |
| 16:52.29 | chouimat|lunch | mmmmm monotone is sloooow |
| 16:56.58 | JustinP | chouimat|lunch: deal with it |
| 17:10.44 | mreimer | how are the files in /etc/modutils generated? by kernel.bbclass? |
| 17:12.05 | jbowler-zzz | They are in one of the packages, then depmod -Ae is run at boot. |
| 17:12.22 | mreimer | are they added to the packages automatically? |
| 17:12.46 | kergoth | jbowler-zzz: did anyone ever fix the endianness issues wrt generating the module dep info at image creation time for module-init-tools? |
| 17:13.06 | jbowler-zzz | Normally the relevant package (it might be base-files or it might be one of the mod-utils ones) are a dependency of the image. |
| 17:13.29 | jbowler-zzz | kergoth: I thought I fixed that months ago - I fixed the endianness problem in the arm elf tools. |
| 17:13.37 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 17:13.54 | jbowler-zzz | module deps are fine (and correct) on NSLU2 at present |
| 17:14.00 | kergoth | glad to hear it |
| 17:14.15 | jbowler-zzz | The problem was that objdump or something like that actually crashed when run on a BE ARM ELF from an x86... |
| 17:15.17 | jbowler-zzz | ...hum, or was that only packages? I can't remember - several people fixed things in kernel.bbclass too I think. |
| 17:15.31 | koen | mreimer: /etc/init.d/modutils should do that |
| 17:17.31 | mreimer | koen: it runs depmod -Ae, but it doesn't populate /etc/modutils |
| 17:17.32 | koen | mreimer: 'for i in `cat /etc/modules` ;do echo $i > /etc/modutils/$i ; done' |
| 17:17.39 | koen | hmmm |
| 17:17.51 | koen | update-modules? |
| 17:18.13 | koen | I know something reads /etc/modutils/* |
| 17:18.34 | mreimer | I think update-modules basically cats all the files in /etc/modutils to /etc/modules |
| 17:19.05 | mreimer | jbowler-zzz just said there should be a file in the package that goes in /etc/modutils, but my question is, what puts that file in the package? |
| 17:19.57 | jbowler-zzz | mreimer: a package (any package) can put a file into the directory, but I don't think anything in the build does that at present. |
| 17:20.24 | jbowler-zzz | I.e. modutils sets up a basic framework, but other things can add to it. |
| 17:20.30 | mreimer | how do other distros populate /etc/modutils? is it usually done by hand? |
| 17:20.52 | jbowler-zzz | NSLU2 doesn't - the default is sufficient and nothing needs to be preloaded. |
| 17:21.18 | mreimer | is mickeyl the kernel.bbclass maintainer? I suppose he'd be the guy to ask? |
| 17:21.31 | jbowler-zzz | ... what are you trying to do? |
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| 17:22.40 | mreimer | If /etc/modutils is properly populated, a proper /etc/modules will be generated with all the nifty aliases etc to allow modules to be autoloaded as needed; e.g. if /dev/dsp is opened, snd-pcm-oss gets loaded |
| 17:22.57 | mreimer | if I'm understanding correctly |
| 17:24.00 | jbowler-zzz | The aliases can't be auto generated (so far as I know). |
| 17:24.19 | jbowler-zzz | There's an explicit eth0 -> ixp0 (or something like that) for NSLU2. |
| 17:25.26 | jbowler-zzz | Ah, here's an example: alias net-pf-17 af_packet ... that comes from /etc/modules/af_packet.conf on NSLU2 |
| 17:25.44 | mreimer | there's gotta be someplace we can get these files |
| 17:26.56 | mreimer | I see in kernel.bbclass "module_conf_af_packet = "alias net-pf-17 af_packet" |
| 17:27.07 | mreimer | so do we need to teach kernel.bbclass about all the standard modules? |
| 17:27.45 | jbowler-zzz | That af_packet.conf is coming from somewhere, but I haven't found where yet... |
| 17:28.00 | CosmicPenguin | if anything, they should be set in a configuration file |
| 17:28.32 | jbowler-zzz | It looks like kernel.bbclass is doing it automagically - at least in this case - I have: |
| 17:28.40 | jbowler-zzz | ./openslug-kernel-2.6.14-rc2-r5.1/install/kernel-module-af-packet/etc/modutils/af_packet.conf |
| 17:29.08 | mreimer | jbowler-zzz: see kernel.bbclass near comment "Write oue any modconf fragment" |
| 17:30.35 | mreimer | koen: http://handhelds.org/~mreimer/mmc/20050930 |
| 17:30.57 | mreimer | koen: you'll need the zImage and modules.tgz, since adding ipv6 changed zImage |
| 17:31.07 | koen | thanks |
| 17:31.27 | mreimer | so is mickeyl the kernel.bbclass maintainer? |
| 17:32.16 | jbowler-zzz | ... look at the monotone log |
| 17:32.37 | koen | if it's me, check bk history :) |
| 17:32.51 | koen | since the switch I 'own' most of OE |
| 17:33.01 | jbowler-zzz | So there's a hand carved list of aliases at the top of kernel.bbclass, but others could be added to the .bb file |
| 17:33.13 | jbowler-zzz | Yes, I find bk history pretty useful ;-) |
| 17:34.03 | mreimer | how do I check the monotone log? |
| 17:34.17 | koen | monotone log <file> |
| 17:34.43 | jbowler-zzz | monotone log <name in database> - it requires the full path from the root. |
| 17:34.46 | mreimer | the man page says "log [id]". I suppose [id] is an optional argument before the filename? |
| 17:35.37 | jbowler-zzz | I suspect it's a half baked attempt to distinguish an entry in the database from a file name. |
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| 17:49.11 | mreimer | ok, here's how it seems to work: for a given module, a file is written to /etc/modutils/$name if module_autoload_$name is defined in the conf file. Additionally, if module_conf_$name is defined, its value is written to /etc/modutils/$name.conf. |
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| 18:06.34 | CIA-7 | 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * re965f050... 10/packages/ (76 files in 12 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:06.34 | CIA-7 | e17, efl: major upgrade to newer versions |
| 18:06.34 | CIA-7 | - Upgraded shapshot-based packages to newest released snapshots |
| 18:06.34 | CIA-7 | - Upgraded CVS-based packages to use a newer date |
| 18:06.34 | CIA-7 | - Moved e and e-wm to use snapshots as a default instead of CVS |
| 18:06.35 | CIA-7 | - Updated patches to work with newer versions |
| 18:06.37 | CIA-7 | - Added patches to fix problems introduced in newer versions |
| 18:06.49 | JustinP | wheeee |
| 18:07.11 | JustinP | no wonder that took me forever....76 files.... |
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| 18:07.33 | koen | nice |
| 18:07.37 | koen | does it work? :P |
| 18:07.41 | JustinP | yes |
| 18:07.47 | JustinP | finally works again for me |
| 18:07.59 | JustinP | just now running a ne wcompile from scratch to make absolutely sure |
| 18:13.56 | JustinP | now I just need to figure out what's up with elitaire.... |
| 18:20.02 | JustinP | it's so nice to have you back |
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| 18:22.00 | JustinP | is there any way I can "cherry pick" that commit I just did and apply it to the oz354 branch? It would be nice to have e working in the releases....in alpha/beta form at least |
| 18:22.48 | koen | no |
| 18:23.04 | koen | you can attach a diff to #350 |
| 18:23.36 | JustinP | lots of renames in there....I don't think a diff will suffice |
| 18:23.51 | koen | it will |
| 18:23.55 | JustinP | ok |
| 18:23.59 | JustinP | I'll try then... |
| 18:24.20 | JustinP | why attach to the bug? for other people to check or are specific people only set up to commit to that branch? |
| 18:24.26 | koen | download http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=5ef8750d9a69c84b19f6d9bf623a45342b0b07b5&id2=ff035627e2768f661dfb577d5e297e704ef5e67d and attach it to bugzilla |
| 18:24.55 | koen | only mickeyl and me should touch that branch |
| 18:25.12 | koen | since we want it to be stable and controlled |
| 18:25.52 | JustinP | ok, fine by me |
| 18:25.54 | JustinP | done |
| 18:26.09 | koen | drat |
| 18:26.13 | JustinP | ? |
| 18:26.14 | koen | I linked to the merge |
| 18:26.19 | JustinP | oh... |
| 18:26.27 | koen | http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=65a4fc67141ef415039e43150c9eeb702fdf66a2&id2=e965f050d16d0a1cfe49ed571b5f989a6b66b121 |
| 18:26.30 | koen | that's the one |
| 18:27.34 | JustinP | I don't think there's a difference... |
| 18:28.15 | JustinP | nope, no difference |
| 18:28.31 | koen | http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=ff035627e2768f661dfb577d5e297e704ef5e67d is a bit misleading |
| 18:28.32 | JustinP | I checked with a quick diff of the diffs |
| 18:28.59 | JustinP | misleading? |
| 18:29.36 | koen | the revision details list a batch of other files |
| 18:29.51 | JustinP | ok.... |
| 18:29.58 | JustinP | well that's becaus eit's a merge I suppose |
| 18:30.05 | koen | yeah |
| 18:30.12 | koen | I thought that would reflect in the diff |
| 18:30.25 | JustinP | nope |
| 18:30.54 | koen | which doesn't make any sense to me |
| 18:31.12 | JustinP | makes perfect sense |
| 18:31.18 | koen | either it should be empty or have all diffs |
| 18:31.29 | JustinP | if you diff form the merge to the other parent (not mine) it should be the same as my rev to its parent |
| 18:31.59 | JustinP | if you diff from the merge to my rev you'll get everything other than my changes (all the stuff from my rev's parent to the other half of the merge) |
| 18:32.08 | koen | that does make sense |
| 18:32.09 | JustinP | hmmm...that's probably not understandable |
| 18:32.39 | koen | it diffs one head against the other |
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| 19:12.43 | woglinde | hi chouimat |
| 19:16.20 | Sess | hey RP you around? |
| 19:16.27 | Sess | gotta ask a question about the spitz gpe kernel |
| 19:20.32 | CIA-7 | 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r7090b2f5... 10/packages/e17/entrance/config-db.patch: entrance: Make the Default session Englightenment since the sesion chooser doesn't work |
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| 19:56.45 | JustinP | Sess: GPE has nothing to do with the kernel |
| 20:03.30 | emte | hey JustinP your gonna hate me but ...the snapshots are going to change to working versions in ~ 2weeks |
| 20:03.46 | JustinP | "working versions"? |
| 20:04.08 | emte | yeah they have a few ... problems |
| 20:04.13 | JustinP | and yes, I do hate raster et al who put out those super-broken snapshots |
| 20:04.16 | JustinP | yes, I noticed |
| 20:04.22 | JustinP | see my recent commit |
| 20:04.23 | emte | lol |
| 20:04.39 | emte | raster i dont think even reccomends the snapshots |
| 20:04.41 | JustinP | build fine form OE now |
| 20:04.47 | emte | i think thats a gnetoo guy |
| 20:04.56 | JustinP | well....people here say don't use CVS people in othe rplaces say don't use snapshots.... |
| 20:05.02 | emte | nah a bunch of core stuff changed again |
| 20:05.17 | JustinP | I don't know what to think |
| 20:05.27 | emte | just so you know if people complain about e not behaving |
| 20:05.29 | JustinP | I *assumed* that the snapshots would be at least somewhat stable |
| 20:05.32 | JustinP | guess I was wrong |
| 20:05.46 | emte | well e17 isnt stable ... |
| 20:05.51 | JustinP | stable as in *compile-able* at least... |
| 20:05.54 | emte | the snapshots are just that |
| 20:05.58 | JustinP | I didn't mean stable |
| 20:06.01 | emte | ah |
| 20:06.23 | JustinP | and no, it doesn't behave |
| 20:06.28 | emte | yeah they will compile but wont work with the updated themes adn menus |
| 20:06.38 | JustinP | I'd use all CVS but the last time I tried that I had segfaults all over the place |
| 20:06.47 | JustinP | eh? |
| 20:06.50 | JustinP | what updated themes? |
| 20:06.59 | JustinP | what updated menus? |
| 20:06.59 | JustinP | seems to work fine for me... |
| 20:07.15 | emte | the way borders were handled has been changed amoung numerous other things |
| 20:07.32 | JustinP | ok |
| 20:07.33 | JustinP | so? |
| 20:07.41 | JustinP | it's running on my Z right now.... |
| 20:07.51 | emte | well the border change specifically broke all the themes |
| 20:07.57 | JustinP | as long as the build I have works I don't care that they're changin internals |
| 20:08.05 | JustinP | and I don't care about external themes |
| 20:08.11 | JustinP | as long as the ones in source work I'm fine |
| 20:08.34 | emte | yeah i think winter is the only one that works currently |
| 20:08.50 | JustinP | ::shrug:: |
| 20:09.02 | emte | i cant remember what changed for menues |
| 20:11.31 | CIA-7 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rc76952a2... 10/packages/bash/bash_3.0.bb: bash: create sysconfdir/shells upon install |
| 20:14.48 | reenoo_ | NAiL: you probably want to change that into "grep -q" |
| 20:15.34 | spinpress|work | after i pulled the db, i got about 30 errors about disgarding revision data packets due to unmet dependencies... is that normal? |
| 20:15.55 | NAiL | reenoo_: good point |
| 20:43.20 | CIA-7 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r7cef5076... 10/packages/bash/bash_3.0.bb: bash: kill the output from grepping after shells |
| 20:43.25 | CIA-7 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r70ec7862... 10/packages/samba/ (samba_3.0.14a.bb samba_3.0.20.bb): samba: fix mount.smbfs symlink, so mounting smbfs works |
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| 20:45.14 | aquadran | zecke: hi |
| 20:46.13 | zecke | hey |
| 20:47.17 | JustinP | wow, you sure waited ;-) |
| 20:47.28 | JustinP | not that I was an early adopter or anything.... |
| 20:47.34 | reenoo_ | heh |
| 20:53.38 | emte | if you waited this long, why didnt you wait until the Revolution was released? |
| 20:55.33 | zecke | no kidding I'm poor (in regard to money) |
| 20:56.12 | zecke | so with the games, controler, and memory cards... I would have to wait years before getting the revolution |
| 20:59.44 | spinpress | i am having some trouble with getting monotone to work... it keeps erroring out with misuse |
| 21:00.07 | JustinP | what kind of misuse? |
| 21:00.18 | spinpress | working copy directory required but not found |
| 21:00.32 | spinpress | i have already pulled from the db, and did the updates |
| 21:00.52 | JustinP | ok |
| 21:00.55 | JustinP | did you check out? |
| 21:01.00 | spinpress | check out? |
| 21:01.08 | spinpress | no.. that isnt in the walkthrough |
| 21:01.13 | JustinP | you need to check out the files before using them... |
| 21:01.20 | JustinP | montone co |
| 21:01.45 | spinpress | and the filename? |
| 21:03.46 | spinpress | this is probably a stupid question, but i thought that when you use gentoo's emerge, it does all of this for you? |
| 21:04.18 | CosmicPenguin | I'm pretty sure that all Gentoo installs start from a tarball from a CD |
| 21:04.28 | CosmicPenguin | The database has to come from some place |
| 21:04.44 | spinpress | yeah, i pulled the database lastnight |
| 21:04.51 | spinpress | it just finished |
| 21:05.04 | JustinP | spinpress: *what*? |
| 21:05.12 | JustinP | spinpress: Gentoo has nothing to do with OE |
| 21:05.30 | JustinP | spinpress: you said you got the monotone DB, right? |
| 21:05.40 | JustinP | spinpress: now you need to check out a copy of the OE files from the db file |
| 21:06.14 | spinpress | okay, typing monotone co gave me a misuse |
| 21:06.32 | zecke | good nite |
| 21:07.42 | JustinP | spinpress: of course it did |
| 21:07.48 | JustinP | spinpress: try reading the directions again |
| 21:08.21 | JustinP | what the.... |
| 21:08.52 | JustinP | oh, no, it is in there |
| 21:08.58 | spinpress | monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev <---- this is what it tells me |
| 21:09.03 | JustinP | yep |
| 21:10.04 | JustinP | spinpress: is your db in /stuff/oe.db? |
| 21:10.12 | spinpress | yeah |
| 21:10.26 | spinpress | i see now.. i was getting a permissions denied when i ran it |
| 21:11.36 | spinpress | cp: cannot stat `../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample': No such file or directory |
| 21:11.36 | spinpress | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.00 | spinpress | cp ../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample conf/local.conf <---- that is the line i run |
| 21:12.15 | JustinP | spinpress: did you check out? |
| 21:12.19 | spinpress | yes |
| 21:12.40 | JustinP | spinpress: and it worked? |
| 21:12.53 | spinpress | i got no error running as root |
| 21:12.55 | JustinP | spinpress: so figure it out...what directory/file doesn't exist? |
| 21:13.01 | JustinP | DO NOT run as root |
| 21:13.01 | JustinP | ! |
| 21:13.17 | JustinP | you could quite easily overwrite parts of your operating system running bitbake/OE as root |
| 21:13.21 | JustinP | don't do it |
| 21:13.21 | spinpress | then how do i grant my accont access |
| 21:13.31 | JustinP | this is not a linux support channel |
| 21:13.34 | emte | chown -R USER:GROUP |
| 21:13.34 | spinpress | i ran just that line in root |
| 21:13.58 | JustinP | I think you have more problems than getting access....you need to get a handle on Linux as well |
| 21:14.39 | spinpress | hey, i came here for support.. all i am asking is for help to get oe working.. are you going to offer me that? |
| 21:15.12 | emte | he is helping you |
| 21:15.25 | emte | its rather assumed you know how to do basic OS admin |
| 21:15.45 | JustinP | if you don't know how to check to see if a directory or file exists then you're way over your head |
| 21:16.27 | spinpress | i do know that.. sry... it just seemed easier to do it that way.. next time i will chmod |
| 21:17.59 | emte | there is a good chance at some point BB+OE will escape and overwrite your host system if you run as root. Not all source code is written properly, many have hardcoded system links that BB cant override |
| 21:23.07 | spinpress | i understand, thank you |
| 21:24.06 | CosmicPenguin | the change isn't only good, its great |
| 21:24.11 | CosmicPenguin | chance even |
| 21:24.38 | spinpress | so, how come i keep getting misuse errors? |
| 21:25.05 | JustinP | because you're misusing something |
| 21:26.04 | spinpress | i dont understand how i am misusing something when i am following the guide? |
| 21:29.15 | spinpress | well, thanks everyone.. you have offered GREAT help |
| 21:29.27 | JustinP | well, what are you doing that's causing the problem? |
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| 21:30.03 | spinpress | following the guide... i dont know.. thats why i am here... hoping someone here can help!! |
| 21:30.06 | JustinP | you said you got a checkout....what are you doing that's causing a misuse? |
| 21:30.17 | JustinP | I can't help you unless you tell me what causes the problem |
| 21:31.02 | spinpress | okay, after the checkout, i go to create local configuration |
| 21:31.09 | JustinP | yes.... |
| 21:31.23 | spinpress | and run this line... cp ../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample conf/local.conf |
| 21:31.37 | JustinP | and there's no way that would cause a "misuse" error... |
| 21:32.03 | JustinP | so...do you know ow to use cp? If it says something doesn't exist, try looking to see which part doesn't exist |
| 21:32.12 | JustinP | is it ../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample or conf/ ? |
| 21:32.19 | spinpress | yeah.. i get this |
| 21:32.21 | spinpress | cp: cannot stat `../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample': No such file or directory |
| 21:32.29 | spinpress | how is that not there though |
| 21:32.39 | spinpress | second.. how do i get it there... where does it come from |
| 21:32.40 | JustinP | ok....so does ../org.openembedded.dev exist? |
| 21:32.48 | JustinP | you said you did a checkout |
| 21:32.52 | spinpress | yes |
| 21:33.03 | JustinP | did you really do a checkout or did you only do a pull? |
| 21:33.40 | spinpress | i did a pull, then the checkout |
| 21:33.47 | JustinP | ok...so where did you checkout to? |
| 21:33.54 | JustinP | perhaps it's not into the dir you think it's in |
| 21:34.24 | spinpress | monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 21:34.27 | spinpress | thats what i did |
| 21:34.46 | JustinP | ok |
| 21:34.54 | JustinP | so where did it checkout to? |
| 21:35.00 | JustinP | try "ls" |
| 21:35.41 | spinpress | stuff/org.openembedded.dev/org.openembedded.dev/org.openembedded.dev |
| 21:35.50 | JustinP | ? |
| 21:36.06 | JustinP | what's that? |
| 21:36.07 | spinpress | thats what is says |
| 21:36.11 | spinpress | where it went |
| 21:36.16 | JustinP | I doubt that "ls" outputs that |
| 21:36.32 | JustinP | if you have a directory structure like that you screwed up somewhere |
| 21:36.36 | spinpress | roberts@localhost /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/org.openembedded.dev $ ls |
| 21:36.36 | spinpress | COPYING.MIT MT README classes conf contrib files packages site |
| 21:36.36 | spinpress | roberts@localhost /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/org.openembedded.dev $ |
| 21:36.54 | JustinP | ok |
| 21:37.02 | JustinP | so.... |
| 21:37.05 | JustinP | cd ../build |
| 21:37.07 | JustinP | mkdir conf |
| 21:37.21 | JustinP | cp ../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample conf/local.conf |
| 21:37.56 | spinpress | roberts@localhost /stuff/build $ cp ../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample conf/local.conf |
| 21:37.57 | spinpress | cp: cannot stat `../org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample': No such file or directory |
| 21:38.08 | spinpress | ohh |
| 21:38.22 | spinpress | put 2 org.openembedded.dev dirs |
| 21:39.13 | JustinP | your directory structure is off |
| 21:39.40 | spinpress | is there a way to start this over? |
| 21:39.56 | spinpress | umerge everything, remove all dirs and start over? |
| 21:40.05 | spinpress | i think it would be more beneficial |
| 21:40.12 | JustinP | sure....just delete it and start over.... |
| 21:40.18 | spinpress | okay |
| 21:40.22 | JustinP | or you could just remove that org.openembedded.dev directory |
| 21:40.26 | JustinP | and start over from checkout |
| 21:41.40 | spinpress | yeah, but i keep getting permission errors too.. i think it has something to do with emerging as well |
| 21:41.46 | spinpress | i dont know.. |
| 21:41.56 | spinpress | i cant even change the permission rights |
| 21:42.05 | spinpress | lol |
| 21:42.07 | spinpress | nm |
| 21:42.17 | JustinP | as root: chown USER directory -R |
| 21:42.19 | spinpress | i cant chmod unless i am su |
| 21:42.23 | JustinP | yes |
| 21:42.35 | JustinP | you need to chown, not chmod |
| 21:42.36 | spinpress | lol.. you guys got me all worked up about not using root... lol |
| 21:42.41 | spinpress | okay |
| 21:42.44 | JustinP | don't run OE as root |
| 21:42.56 | JustinP | if you'd started this as a normal user instead of root you'd have no problems |
| 21:43.10 | spinpress | i am not familiar with chown.. i have always used chmod |
| 21:43.13 | JustinP | as it is you just need to become root, chown it all to you, then get back to being not root |
| 21:43.42 | spinpress | just chown the stuff dir? |
| 21:43.56 | spinpress | will it do all of the sub-dirs |
| 21:44.37 | spinpress | okay, i did the cp line |
| 21:44.40 | spinpress | and it worked |
| 21:47.33 | JustinP | -R |
| 21:49.19 | spinpress | so, the path to my openembedded files is ../org.openembedded.dev/org.open.embedded.dev/ |
| 21:49.20 | spinpress | ?? |
| 21:49.40 | spinpress | (for the BBFILES) |
| 21:49.59 | JustinP | use a full path |
| 21:50.12 | spinpress | yeah .. /stuff/build |
| 21:50.20 | spinpress | orr /stuff |
| 21:54.24 | spinpress | Use the BBMASK below to instruct BitBake to _NOT_ consider some .bb files |
| 21:54.28 | spinpress | what does that mean? |
| 21:54.36 | JustinP | exactly what it says |
| 21:54.59 | spinpress | okay, what am i suppose to be doing? |
| 21:55.00 | JustinP | any bb file which matches a pattern in BBMASK is not parsed |
| 21:55.09 | JustinP | leave it alone |
| 21:55.11 | spinpress | okay |
| 22:00.29 | emte | hey JustinP just reading your comment about cvs URI, was BB's CVS handling removed ? |
| 22:00.42 | JustinP | removed? |
| 22:00.43 | JustinP | no |
| 22:00.56 | JustinP | I just wasn't sure how to have it grab a single file |
| 22:01.08 | JustinP | probably just put it in the URI....I didn't try |
| 22:01.12 | JustinP | ~lart me for not trying |
| 22:01.25 | JustinP | that's an interesting one.... |
| 22:01.58 | emte | just saw your cvsview ... method |
| 22:02.02 | emte | is why i ask |
| 22:02.51 | JustinP | hehe |
| 22:02.59 | JustinP | it was just the easiest way for me to get it done |
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| 22:03.53 | emte | ah, you happened to have your browser open to the cvsview already |
| 22:03.56 | emte | :P |
| 22:04.21 | JustinP | yeah, viewing it in my browser was much more convenient |
| 22:33.16 | spinpress | JustinP: have another error |
| 22:34.11 | spinpress | nm |
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| 22:42.19 | spinpress | ERROR: The following variable(s) were not set: TARGET_ARCH, TARGET_OS |
| 22:42.19 | spinpress | Please set them directly, or choose a MACHINE or DISTRO that sets them. <----- How do I do this? |
| 22:42.29 | JustinP | local.conf |
| 22:42.32 | JustinP | it's right in there |
| 22:43.29 | spinpress | the 'specify a machine to build for' |
| 22:43.48 | spinpress | and target architecture |
| 22:44.19 | JustinP | set a MACHINE and DISTRO |
| 22:44.47 | spinpress | I have an HP iPAQ 2215, what would i put? "hp2215" |
| 22:46.02 | mreimer | spinpress: MACHINE="h3900", DISTRO="familiar-0.8.3", KERNEL="kernel26" |
| 22:46.49 | spinpress | there is no decimal between 2 and 6 in the kernel? |
| 22:46.53 | mreimer | no |
| 22:46.56 | spinpress | k |
| 22:47.02 | spinpress | thanks |
| 22:47.10 | mreimer | spinpress: I can mail you my local.conf if you want |
| 22:47.25 | spinpress | sure, that would be appreciated |
| 22:47.34 | spinpress | williamjonah@aol.com |
| 22:47.34 | mreimer | what's your email address? |
| 22:48.20 | mreimer | sent |
| 22:48.25 | spinpress | thank you |
| 22:48.29 | mreimer | you're welcome |
| 22:50.54 | spinpress | i didnt get it |
| 22:51.08 | spinpress | here http://sh.nu/p/520 |
| 22:51.19 | spinpress | just use pastebin ;) |
| 22:54.21 | mreimer | http://pastebin.ca/24329 |
| 23:03.03 | CIA-7 | 03yuecelm 07org.oe.dev * r381f5ac5... 10/packages/avetanabt/ (files/maxConnectedDevices.patch avetanabt_cvs.bb): |
| 23:03.03 | CIA-7 | avetana_cvs: some cosmetic changes and working patch |
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| 23:10.37 | CIA-7 | 03yuecelm 07org.oe.dev * re83da273... 10/packages/avetanabt/files/avetanalocaldevice.patch: avetanabt_cvs: remove avetanalocaldevice.patch |
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