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05:40.47luzikhi
05:41.08luziktoday i found something like this:
05:41.23luzik| checking for csin in -lm... configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES.
05:41.34luzikNOTE: package gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1: task do_compile: failed
05:42.05luzikanyone know how to eat this?
05:50.56luziki believe that this is my local
05:52.06emtewhat are you compiling for?
05:52.47luzikopie-image
05:53.05emtedevice
05:53.16luzikoh
05:53.30luzik5500
05:53.32luzikcolie
05:54.06emtedoes gcc-4 build for any of the Zauri yet?
05:55.23luzikdin't know that
05:55.28luzikdidn't
05:55.31emtePREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross ?= "3.4.4"
05:55.32emtePREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial ?= "3.4.4"
05:55.45emteis the openzaurus distro versions
05:56.08luzikDISTRO_VERSION = "3.5.3-snapshot-${DATE}"
05:56.09emtewhy are you bu9ilding 4?
05:56.26luzikthat is the problem
05:56.42luzikok changing this
05:56.51emtewhat distro did you put in your local.conf?
05:56.51luzikthx for help
05:57.04luzikDISTRO = "openzaurus"
05:57.05luzikDISTRO_VERSION = "3.5.3-snapshot-${DATE}"
05:57.13emtethats wrong
05:57.26luzikyeah i know :)
05:57.33emtedistro = "openzaurus-3.5.4"
05:58.07emteonly the names in your conf/distro dir are valid
05:58.27luziki c
05:58.31luzik..
05:58.35luziktesting now
05:58.59luzikthx
05:59.25emteas long as you tossed tmp you should build fine
05:59.38emteotherwise the old stuff is still cached
06:01.18luziki always rm -Rf tmp
06:03.16emtejust checking
06:03.28luziksure
06:03.41emtethere some peopel who dont
06:03.52emteand then complain about the same thing
06:04.07luzikwe all /noobs/ need some practise :)
06:04.47emtesometimes people forget or dont know better
06:06.28luziklast time i build opie-image about month ago... and have problem with wondows
06:06.37luzikthey aren't maximized :)
06:06.52emteyou'd have to talk to the opie crew about that
06:07.00luziki hope this will work now :)
06:07.13emtedont use it myself
06:07.29luzikwhat u r useing ?
06:08.39emtefamiliar+gpe for general use
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07:39.26CIA-703jbowler 07org.oe.dev * re5628a25... 10/: nslu2-kernel 2.6.14-rc3 (and openslug-kernel) - select in .conf to use
07:40.39CIA-703frederic 07org.oe.dev * r6cde71e3... 10/:
07:40.39CIA-7second try at a patch for kernel 2.4 support for simpad.
07:40.40CIA-7This time, it follows the h3900.conf model, as required by Koen (bug 302)
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07:42.46CIA-703koen 07org.oe.dev * rf88a2fe5... 10/: packages/abiword/: add 2.4.0 + patch
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07:57.23XorAmorning
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08:07.43hrw|workmorning
08:08.10XorAyo hrw|work
08:08.45luzikhrw|work: hi mate :)
08:10.19hrw|workcześć luzik
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08:10.54hrw|work~lart debian kde team for depend on xmms
08:13.27XorAhrw|work: could be worse, could depend on gnome and gnome depend on debian
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08:26.14koengood morning all
08:28.52XorA~lart gnome for making having an address bar non obvious
08:32.19koenXorA: I added abiword 2.4.0, but I suspect it will still crash, do you have some time to look at it this month?
08:33.22XorAkoen: I shall attempt to
08:33.48koenthanks
08:33.59XorAkoen: gomunicator needs a DEPENDS on an alsa package, not sure which one
08:34.27XorAPerhaps you should add the directory containing `alsa.pc'
08:38.34CIA-703koen 07org.oe.dev * re6a4f3e9... 10/: conf/machine/h2200.conf: remove RDEPEND on ipaq-boot-params
08:41.05hrw|workhi koen
08:41.13koenhey hrw|work
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08:51.50reenoo_morning
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09:02.40hrw|workre
09:02.52hrw|workhad to restart X session - keyboard died
09:05.20mickeylmorning
09:05.54MP0morning. I need to find a better way to bitbake task-bootstrap...
09:05.59MP0woke up to this: /dev/hda1              8241024   8241024         0 100% /
09:06.03mickeylheh
09:06.22MP0and I thought it would only take 4 gigs.
09:06.42mickeylyeah, that is without sources
09:06.46mickeylheh
09:06.56MP0so it's the sources that take up most of the space?
09:07.19XorAkoen|away: abiword runs fine here
09:07.32mickeylMP0: dunno, check your DL_DIR
09:08.50MP0I would, except vi refuses to run with 0 disk space :-/
09:09.02MP0hmm, nano works though
09:09.30MP0alright, I got a bunch of sources I can delete
09:09.54CIA-703mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r93c994e3... 10/: add ruby 1.8.2; NOTE: ruby-native doesn't need to be adjusted
09:09.58CIA-703mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rafb8a8c7... 10/:
09:09.58CIA-7add a basic bbclass for building ruby extensions
09:09.58CIA-7NOTE: might be uncomplete, but may serve as a starting point for someone interested in ruby ;)
09:10.02MP01% down /dev/hda1              8241024   8119636    121388  99% /
09:12.33mickeylmickey@r2d2:~$ du -h -s /local/pkg/sources
09:12.33mickeyl8,7G    /local/pkg/sources
09:12.35mickeyl:D
09:12.52mickeyli should delete some stuff as well...
09:13.14MP0Are there any options I can use to minimize the amount of disk space oe uses, like delete files used to build the product?
09:13.52mickeylyeah there is something... hrw|work would know exactly
09:16.21hrw|workINHERIT += "rm_work"
09:16.50hrw|workbut it will break stuff with broken libtool usage (like gtk, glib etc)
09:17.32hrw|workhi mickeyl
09:17.33MP0hmm, darn, I'm gonna need glib cuz pango depends on that
09:17.45hrw|work1,3G/home/hrw//devel/sources/dl_dir/
09:17.59hrw|workmickeyl: read botmail
09:18.11MP0ls
09:18.28MP0hmm... curious
09:18.41MP0for some reason, there's a copy of tmp inside bitbake's folder
09:18.48MP0with work, packages, etc
09:19.01MP0probably my fault somehow
09:21.16hrw|work~lart kget
09:21.21mickeylibot: botmail read
09:21.41mickeylhrw|work: what's your name @ sourceforge?
09:22.10hrw|workmickeyl: hrwandil
09:23.28hrw|workconfiguring with vim rule
09:27.37mickeylhrw|work: <--- new OZ admin
09:32.39hrw|workthx
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09:37.39lucasvowhat the hell is wrong with my bitbake? http://wservices.ch/~lucas/tmp , http://wservices.ch/~lucas/local.conf
09:39.16mickeyllooks like your bitbake is too old and/or BBPATH is wrong
09:39.56lucasvomickeyl: 1. no, it is a 2 days old source checkout, bbpath is correct
09:40.07mickeylshow me
09:40.11mickeylBBPATH = ?
09:40.45ade|deskis that BBFILES line correct ?
09:41.01lucasvoBBPATH=/home/lucas/pda/build:/home/lucas/pda/org.openembedded.dev
09:41.04lucasvoade|desk: yes
09:41.21mickeylthat looks wrong
09:41.28mickeylBBPATH is supposed to be a triple
09:41.34mickeyl1st build dir
09:41.37mickeyl2nd oe
09:41.39mickeyl3rd bitbake
09:41.39hrw|workmickeyl: BBPATH was triple months ago
09:41.46mickeylheh is that so?
09:41.50hrw|workyes
09:41.58mickeylsounds like i'm from the stoneages
09:42.05hrw|workmickeyl: atleast kergoth told that months ago
09:42.27mickeylwell, i have a triple here and it works for me
09:42.29mickeyl*shrug*
09:42.30MP0does ccache clean itself up?
09:42.36lucasvoso what is wrong with bbpath?
09:42.38mickeylMP0 no
09:42.39MP0(looking at a big .cache directory)
09:42.45mickeylccache -h
09:43.03MP0k, thanks
09:43.15mickeyllucasvo: bitbake is 1.3.2.1 ?
09:43.41lucasvomickeyl: [11:42:44 lucas@wservices <0> build]% bitbake --version
09:43.44lucasvoBitBake Build Tool Core version 1.3.2.1, bitbake version 1.3.2
09:43.45lucasvoyes
09:43.47mickeyllooks good
09:43.59mickeylnext: remove your bogus $ in BBFILES
09:44.30MP0hmm, ccache -c didn't do much... lets try rm -rf .ccache
09:44.45XorAMP0: its ccache -C
09:44.50lucasvomickeyl: the version you saw is old, I did it already yesterday in the real conf
09:44.52MP0... doh!
09:45.01XorAMP0: made that mistake many times myself
09:45.12lucasvomickeyl: you can reload
09:45.20MP0it even says "Cleaned cache" ... oh well
09:45.26MP0thanks, XorA
09:45.50mickeyllucasvo: ok, now we must find out, why it reports a false CACHE settings
09:45.57mickeylshow me bitbake -D -D again
09:45.58lucasvomickeyl: yes
09:46.15lucasvo[11:44:08 lucas@wservices <0> build]% bitbake -D -D
09:46.15lucasvoDEBUG: CONF reading /home/lucas/pda/build/conf/bitbake.conf
09:46.15lucasvoNothing to do.  Use 'bitbake world' to build everything, or run 'bitbake --help'
09:46.16lucasvofor usage information.
09:46.27mickeylaah
09:46.31mickeylhere we are
09:46.35mickeylit doesn't find your local.conf
09:46.36lucasvomickeyl: ok
09:46.58lucasvoso what should I do?
09:47.01mickeylcheck BBPATH again
09:47.18mickeyluhm
09:47.19mickeylwait
09:47.21mickeyleek
09:47.28mickeylhome/lucas/pda/build/conf/bitbake.conf ??
09:47.31lucasvoBBPATH=/home/lucas/pda/build:/home/lucas/pda/org.openembedded.dev
09:47.36mickeylyou're not supposed to copy bitbake.conf from somewhere to anywhere
09:47.40mickeylremove that incarnation
09:48.06lucasvo[11:47:58 lucas@wservices <0> build]% rm conf/bitbake.conf
09:48.06lucasvo[11:48:28 lucas@wservices <0> build]% bitbake nano        
09:48.07lucasvoERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf (conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf:7: unparsed line: '"${@bb.fatal('This file is unmaintained in the org.oe.dev branch, use the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch instead. You can also remove this line, but don't complain if something breaks')}"')[11:48:33 lucas@wservices <1> build]%
09:48.27mickeylsounds good
09:48.28mickeylt'works
09:48.32mickeylwell
09:48.33mickeylkind of
09:48.44mickeylls -l /home/lucas/pda/org.openembedded.dev/conf/bitbake.conf
09:48.46lucasvowhere is that file? conf/distro in source checkout?
09:49.33mickeyllucasvo: yep, conf/distro
09:49.35lucasvo{@bb.fatal('This file is unmaintained in the org.oe.dev branch, use the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch instead. You can also remove this line, but don't complain+ if something breaks')}"
09:49.41mickeylremove that bb.fatal for now
09:49.51mickeyl(you really should use the branch, but do that if it works)
09:49.52lucasvohm so I am not supposed to use dev for compiling?
09:50.02mickeyl*nod*, that's what it says
09:50.09mickeylbut like i said
09:50.14mickeyldo it when everything else works
09:50.17mickeylfirst try .dev
09:50.21lucasvook
09:51.06XorAMP0: if I made them type they really would die
09:51.25reenoo_hehe
09:51.39mickeylyou can't rely on anyone being sane
09:52.38mickeyli was pretty disappointed when i found out that 50% of our professors are not using LaTeX but Word :/
09:52.38MP0XorA, are they engineers or what?
09:53.11XorAMP0: well out engineers are stuck on windows as the dev tools are windows only. The marketing people are just idiots
09:53.32MP0mikeyl... there's one thing word does better than latex: collaborative editing.
09:53.48MP0although admittedly that's more of a student thing than a prof. thing.
09:53.51mickeylyeah
09:54.37mickeyli'm just always put off by the sheer look of the documents
09:54.37MP0I'm working on a collaborative replacement for LyX (sort of like writely.com, but better). Hopefully I'll finish and peace will come to this world.
09:54.43reenoo_there's CVS/SVN for that
09:54.44XorAsomeone should snazz up LyX to look like word, then us admins could sneak it up on people
09:54.49mickeyli guess you can write good looking papers in word, but i have yet to see one
09:55.10mickeylall word papers my students give me look like shit. sloppy word wrapping, ugly typesettings, etc.
09:55.15mickeyl*shrug*
09:55.19hrw|workOpenZaurus website switched to Mysql 4.1 - now it should be faster
09:55.24mickeylthanks hrw
09:55.36MP0If I finish my LyX replacement, I'll let your students have at it first ;-)
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09:55.48mickeylMP0: excellent - i count on you! :D
09:55.55XorAmickeyl: I find people can spends days adjusting tables in work, never writing content and feeling they have worked. I finished my final year dissertation weeks early because LaTeX did all that crap for me
09:56.29mickeylXorA: *nod* At the moment, I'm writing in a wiki because content is #1 for me
09:56.34mickeyland i want to edit from anywhere
09:56.48mickeylthen when i have the most important chapters, i go LyX
09:56.50XorAmickeyl: I found emacs wiki mode and my life improved
09:57.46mickeylyeah, i can imagine that
09:57.55mickeylbbl, need to do some dissertation work
09:58.00mickeyl(keyword) :)
09:59.57MP0mickeyl, which wiki do you use? I've tried them, but I dislike how most don't handle nesting
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10:06.33koen|awayhmmm
10:06.44koen|awayrunning iPhoto, matlab and monotone at the same time hurts
10:06.55XorAkoen: heh heh, on an Ipaq?
10:07.02koenheh
10:07.12koenno, on a powerbook
10:07.16XorAkoen: did you see, abiword seems to work for me, what precisely crashes it?
10:07.38koenXorA: I expected it to crash, but if it doesn't...
10:07.54XorA2.3.99 worked for me as well
10:08.12koennice
10:21.54bluelightning<cough> <hack> <choke>
10:22.08bluelightninghello btw ;)
10:22.18koenhey bluelightning
10:22.34bluelightningoh right, ipkgfind... phew
10:22.43bluelightningI read that as "rewrite _ipkg_ in php"
10:23.00koenheh
10:23.29koenor convince someone to make ipkgfind parse individual packages instead of Packages.*
10:24.24hrw|workkoen: why? Packages are supposed to contain all needed info
10:24.52koenindeed, 'supposed to'
10:25.29koenat the moment a lot of ipkg tools choke when parsing Packages*
10:25.51koenand I want the Homepage: and OE: fields too
10:25.59koenwhich are only in the .ipks
10:28.33hrw|workthen fix ipkg-make-index to add all fields
10:29.24koenheh
10:29.29koenand make ipkg even slower
10:32.37hrw|workipkgfind parse packages when someone add feed or each time?
10:32.59koeneach time the cronjob runs
10:33.36koenhmmm
10:33.45koenI see why it parses the Packages file :)
10:34.48CIA-703koen 07org.oe.dev * r59197559... 10/: packages/hicolor-icon-theme/hicolor-icon-theme_0.5.bbL fix SRC_URI
10:36.24hrw|workless things to download
11:14.20hrw|workkoen: is there an option/possibility to setup that gtk filerequester will cache dir content between each use?
11:15.41koenhrw|work: not that I know off
11:16.04koenhttp://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news.html has tons of notes on how bad it sucks :)
11:16.21hrw|workdirectory has ~200 files but it is smb share and opening it few times in a minute take too much time
11:16.53koenheh
11:17.04koenIf I try that on osx it will crash
11:18.13hrw|workgtk over smb?
11:18.24koenno, osx over smb
11:18.32koenosx + smb == hell
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11:19.15hrw|worknice
11:19.19df00zmickey around?
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11:20.23df00zhttp://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349  im not exactly sure what he wants me to do
11:20.48zueryi've got library question... how do i generate a .so file from a .a file... ?
11:21.13hrw|workdf00z: dont echo things which are not related to target machine but provide them in already generated file
11:21.25hrw|workzuery: use -shared instead of -static when build?
11:21.39df00zhrw:  so, paste what the files should be
11:21.44df00zand just add the extra stuff with echo
11:21.55df00zwhat requires variables and stuff?
11:23.35zueryi've got a xyz.so .. that require /usr/local/arm/abc.so ... but i don't want to put the path in /etc/ld.so.conf.. when i use strings command.. the path /usr/local/arm exist in the library..
11:24.30zueryso how do i point it back to somewhere else... say.. the abc.so is in /usr/local/test/
11:24.50hrw|workdf00z: config.h looks like always the same - provide it as it is without generating it each time with echo
11:24.58zueryhrw|work: i build with shared...
11:25.21zueryhrw|work: file command produce arm version 1 (shared)
11:31.24reenoo_zuery: that's kind of off topic here
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11:36.14reenoo_heh. we should "fix" that quit message
11:40.00koenyeah
11:40.03koenmore branding!
11:43.24reenoo_koen: do I have to pull all branches to be able to push/sync? (don't have the oz354fam083 branch in my db yet)
11:44.17koensync will get you all branches
11:44.23koenpush/pull work per branch
11:44.32koenso no, you don't need all branches
11:45.44reenoo_ok, thanks
11:46.52reenoo_heh
11:46.59koenpulling the ozfam branch will give a 3k new certs but very few revs
11:47.14koenand revs are causing monotone's slowness
11:48.32reenoo_that guy is seriously trying to explain our shlibdeps code to pb_
11:48.57reenoo_I mean, wtf?
11:49.48reenoo_arrgh
11:49.56koengaim/src/protocols/irc/irc.h:38:#define IRC_DEFAULT_QUIT "Download Gaim: " GAIM_WEBSITE
11:49.57reenoo_$ monotone list unknown
11:49.57reenoo_monotone: fatal: std::logic_error: change_set.cc:601: invariant 'I(*leader != *lagged)' violated
11:49.57reenoo_monotone:
11:49.57reenoo_monotone: this is almost certainly a bug in monotone.
11:50.10reenoo_no shit
11:50.18reenoo_~stab monotone
11:50.20ibotACTION runs at monotone with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
11:53.32reenoo_hrm
11:53.35reenoo_monotone: warning: key 'br1@openembedded.org' is not equal to key 'br1@openembedded.org' in database
11:54.09reenoo_anyone happen to have an explanation for that?
11:54.42koenyeah, mickeyl replaced the key without checking for duplicates
11:54.48hrw|workhe recreated key
11:54.55koenwhich is a great way to kill monotone
11:55.16koenNEVER, and I mean NEVER EVER recreate keys after distributing
11:55.20reenoo_~lart br1
11:55.27koen~lart mickeyl
11:55.38reenoo_why does that guy have push access anyway?
11:55.43hrw|workkoen: I (will) have another rev for #350
11:55.58koenreenoo_: meshcube?
11:56.00hrw|workreenoo_: he is meshcube maintainer
11:56.16reenoo_regardless. if he does anything at all he breaks stuff
11:56.27reenoo_have him attach patches to bugzilla
11:57.50reenoo_(just search the bk logs for '~lart br1')
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12:03.44reenoo_~bitchslap monotone, hurry up damnit!
12:03.45ibotACTION beats the sh*t out of monotone, hurry up damnit!
12:15.41CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2283efd4... 10/: ttf-dejavu: update to newer snapshot - this close bug#365
12:22.07ade|deskkoen: evil laughter?? you reading the turkish requirements for EU membership ?
12:22.58koenheh
12:23.04koenno, watch the next commit :)
12:24.25CIA-703koen 07org.oe.dev * ra05aaf78... 10/: packages/gaim/gaim_2.0.0-cvs-mco1.bb: Substitute Gaim ad in the irc quit message for some OE branding
12:24.28koenmuhahahaha
12:28.20hrw|work;))
12:28.43koenI suspect that patch will apply to qpe-gaim too
12:30.17reenoo_hmm
12:31.05hrw|workits for gaim or libgaim?
12:31.12hrw|workanyway - lucnh time
12:31.24reenoo_the >200 "monotone: warning: discarding revision data packet ... with unmet dependencies" I get can be safely ignored?
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12:31.33koenyes
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12:32.02koenhmmm
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12:34.52koenenough fun for today
12:39.40reenoo_koen: mind if I quote you on the "NEVER EVER" in a message to oe@
12:39.46reenoo_?
12:40.04koennot at all
12:40.36koenI think I even used stronger wording in the 'we switched to monotone' mail a few months back
12:41.03reenoo_I'm sure you did
12:41.55koenI'm hoping a 'monotone dropkey br1@openembedded.org' on all clients will 'solve' the problem
12:42.11koenthe servers will push the key that signed the csets
12:42.33koenreplacing keys is a great way to corrupts all dbs.....
12:43.22CIA-703koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r28a32d2e... 10/: conf/machine/h2200.conf: add h2200 machine config to the release branch
12:44.00koenhrw|work: should I commit the fonts fix to now?
12:46.49reenoo_$ monotone --db ../oe.db update
12:46.49reenoo_monotone: fatal: std::logic_error: change_set.cc:601: invariant 'I(*leader != *lagged)' violated
12:46.49reenoo_monotone:
12:46.49reenoo_monotone: this is almost certainly a bug in monotone.
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12:56.35CIA-703rw 07org.oe.dev * r10dc1d65... 10/: libsdl-(qpe|x11): fix packaging and inherit binconfig. fixes Bug #115
12:56.59reenoo_there we go
12:58.58koenLOL
12:59.00koen<PROTECTED>
13:00.13reenoo_yeah. binconfig.bbclass takes care of that part now. without the "mickey_is_cool" though ;)
13:05.46hrw|workkoen: please do
13:09.06df00zhttp://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349 :\
13:09.10df00zIm so confused
13:12.02CIA-703koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * raf2e7c50... 10/: packages/ttf-fonts/ttf-dejavu_1.14.bb: backport r2283efd4d5567696fe045058b3d139e9871549e9 from .dev
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13:52.11koenhrw|work: what font were non distributable in pdaX?
13:52.16koenfonts*
13:52.58lucasvowhen I do bitbake gpe-image from org.openembedded.dev source this happens: http://wservices.ch/~lucas/log.do_compile.6779
13:53.02lucasvowhat is wrong?
13:53.22reenoo_koen: msttcorefonts in debian speak
13:53.40koenand verdana?
13:54.09koenor is that part of msttcorefonts?
13:54.19reenoo_part of it
13:54.44koen'Laze has sent you a new personal message entitled "HRW found what in pdaXrom?".'
13:55.28hrw|workverdana & times new roman
13:56.09hrw|workkoen: he did not
13:56.38koenhrw|work: what didn't he do?
13:56.43MP0question: how do you force make scripts to use your cross compilers rather than native gcc?
13:56.57hrw|worksent message
13:57.06MP0is there a simple way? some don't seem to honor CROSS_COMPILE
13:57.09hrw|workkoen: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14630 - kbdd for pdax
13:57.10koenoe_runmake <args>
13:57.19MP0k, thanks.
13:58.31koenhrw|work: nice
14:01.20hrw|workI had to get pocketop keyboard but donor MIA
14:02.03XorAmaybe in xmas hols
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14:08.47CIA-703koen 07org.oe.dev * rb91f9b79... 10/: packages/udev/files/udev.rules: add buzzer, closes #367
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14:27.54MP0oe$ find ./ -iname "oe_runmake"
14:27.59MP0<nothing>
14:28.25zeckeMP0: that is a shell function
14:28.42zeckegrep -rn ./ oe_runmake
14:28.44zeckegrep -rn ./ oe_runmake  *
14:29.42MP0k
14:30.31MP0it's used in a lot of files
14:30.48zeckeright
14:31.01zeckeMP0: it is likely to be defined in classes/base.bbclass
14:34.47MP0ah... I was asking how to use oe to cross compile stuff if make only uses the native compiler. oe_runmake just calls make. Cute answer I guess.
14:36.56reenoo_that's not quite true actually
14:37.12reenoo_oe_runmake calls ${MAKE} ${EXTRA_OEMAKE}
14:37.34reenoo_where EXTRA_OEMAKE defaults to "-e MAKEFLAGS="
14:38.36MP0ok, so basically I'd use -e to make CC point to arm-linux-
14:39.08reenoo_no, you use oe_runmake
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14:39.24MP0so the correct procedure is to define a new package
14:39.36MP0and use oe_runmake in the .bb file?
14:40.02zeckeMP0: if you simply call oe_runmake you do not need to have a do_compile() method anyway
14:40.17zeckeMP0: I propose you either look at pb_'s or mickeyl's slides
14:40.32MP0k
14:40.33zeckemickey|bbl: There are so many topics left ;)
14:41.04reenoo_MP0: ah, you just want to use the OE generated toolchain? in that case try a "bitbake devshell" and run the script it creates
14:41.36MP0k
14:42.22reenoo_MP0: that provides the same environment as bitbake would use with autotools.bbclass
14:43.01MP0It doesn't really matter too much which arm toolchain, I was just having difficulty getting an automake configure script to use the toolchain rather than the native gcc
14:44.09MP0to compile the kernel, all I had to do was set the correct path and the CROSS_COMPILE variable, so I wasn't sure if there was another shell variable that automake stuff looks at... because it does seem to support cross-compiling
14:44.40MP0hopefully devshell will work.
14:46.03zeckeMP0: well if the usage of autotools is broken, you need to patch the source
14:46.09MP0zecke, where are pb_ or mickeyl's slides? I don't see them on the wiki
14:46.54koenhrw|work: msttffonts will  be removed in RC12
14:47.00zeckeMP0: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/PapersAndPresentations
14:48.38kraptorhi all! Can't compile opie-tinykate. I get an error about "Too many levels of symbolic links". Anyone knows whay?
14:50.35MP0"circular symlink situation" (treke|ho1e responding to a similar question)
14:51.22hrw|workkoen: where did they wrote that?
14:51.35koenhrw|work: privmsg  
14:51.43hrw|workkoen: ok
14:51.45kraptorMP0: how to get the response? I'm newbie here. thanks
14:52.09hrw|workkraptor: you have symlinks in build dir?
14:52.27kraptorno
14:52.30kraptorhrw|work: no
14:52.58MP0I put "Too many
14:53.00MP0<PROTECTED>
14:53.03MP0into google
14:54.07kraptorMP0: :)
14:56.33zeckekraptor: TMPDIR is a symlink?
14:57.17kraptorzecke: no, I have drwxr-xr-x  2 kraptor kraptor 112 2005-10-04 15:31 conf
14:57.18kraptordrwxr-xr-x  8 kraptor kraptor 192 2005-09-29 19:33 tmp
14:58.34kraptorzecke: tinykate fails in do_package here
15:00.25kraptorzecke: it seems that is trying to ln -s libkate.so somewhere
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15:12.05kraptorzecke: Okay, I've found what was the problem: libkate.so.1.0.0 -> libkate.so.1.0.0
15:13.01CosmicPenguinew
15:16.28koenCosmicPenguin: still in germany?
15:17.35zeckekraptor: now find out how that came?
15:17.51CosmicPenguinkoen: heh - no, I was only there for a week
15:18.43CosmicPenguinkoen: I do look forward to going back - i'm taking german lessons so I'll be less stupid American next time
15:19.22kraptorzecke: i simply configured bitbake and oe as the wiki says (openzaurus, sl5500, oz354fam083 branch) and did a bitbake opie-image
15:23.42kraptorzecke: i'm trying to reproduce doing a new build... this will take a while
15:31.36hrw|work~lart oesf morons
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15:32.49ade|deskhrw|work: what have they done now ?
15:34.09hrw|workusual stuff - did not used search option
15:34.25hrw|worksoemone started 123th thread about socket connect+ card
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15:36.24XorAhrw|work: socket conect+ whats that?
15:37.20hrw|workXorA: that wlan/storage cf card
15:37.25koenXorA: the wifi + storage card
15:37.49XorAsocket do one as well as SanDisk?
15:39.12hrw|workok - maybe its sandisk
15:41.13CIA-703koen 07org.oe.dev * rcec9dd28... 10/: udev: add 0.5.4 and package the device-manager seperatly
15:41.32koen~lart me
15:41.38koens/udev/hal/
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15:42.58hrw|workI will start to write faq for oz users
15:43.23hrw|workit will be short article in wordpress with comments off etc
15:43.28hrw|worksomeone want to help?
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15:43.47koen"Q: bla"
15:43.56koen"A: S E A R C H"
15:44.19koen~smartquestions
15:44.20ibotfrom memory, smartquestions is http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
15:44.37Twiunkoen: Seriously Erotic And Really Cheesy Help?
15:45.02koenehm...
15:45.36kraptorhrw|work: I can do the translation to spanish if you want
15:45.45koenI wish we would ship a first run wizard which has trivia about smartquestions
15:46.14koenbut that would mean 99% of forum users would get shut out
15:46.43hrw|workfirst two are funny ;)
15:46.52hrw|workHow to get own question on that list?
15:46.53hrw|work<PROTECTED>
15:47.04hrw|workand answer
15:47.09hrw|workHow to get answer to own question?
15:47.21hrw|workUse Search option here or on OESF forums. Don't ask before searching.
15:47.55hrw|workofcourse there is no author info in faq
15:49.00hrw|workshould be enough scary for most of readers
15:51.46emteso why were the old distro versions dropped?
15:52.42hrw|worknice question
15:52.50koenhrw|work: http://handhelds.org/Compaq/iPAQH3600/Pictures/
15:52.57hrw|workkoen: I saw them
15:52.59hrw|worktwm rule
15:53.11koenso we can safely saw:
15:53.16koentwm is sooooooo 2000
15:53.49koensay*
15:54.24XorAkoen: 2000? I first used it in 1993
15:55.12koen1997 or so over here
15:55.53XorATyranasaurus Window Manager
15:59.20hrw|workemte: anyway to get it in faq you need to provide answer
16:00.01MP0what's the difference between gcc-cross-initial and gcc-cross?
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16:12.51hrw|workfirst it used to build libc which will be used to build second
16:19.41hrw|workcu all
16:35.24mreimerhey koen. did your gpe-image finish?
16:38.24pb_hi mreimer
16:38.29mreimerhi pb_
16:39.28mreimerpb_, I found that to make bt on h2200 work with hcid, I had to add mdelay(1500) after powering on. Is that ok? Should I sleep instead?
16:47.06kraptoris anyone getting problems with libsoundgen? it seems that ld does not find libesd when linking
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16:49.19pb_mreimer: yeah, sleeping would be better
16:49.40pb_maybe you could patch hcid, rather than the kernel.
16:49.49pb_hi kergoth
16:50.09Pendalaralmost got my linux box set up =-s
16:50.48mreimerpb_: I did patch hcid first (easy), but then thought that the fact that there isn't already a sleep in there might mean that I'm doing something wrong. The mdelay is in the h2200-specific PXA serial port configure code.
16:51.15pb_yeah, fair enough
16:51.23pb_I guess putting it in the kernel is fine too, but do make it a sleep rather than just mdelay().
16:51.59mreimerpb_: will do
16:52.39AvengerMoJousb sleep will not wake up and not able to remove in C3000 for 2.6 kernel
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16:57.17emtehrw|gone, i was actually asking so i knew ... not because i know ...
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16:57.49emtei have no idea why the old distro versions were removed
17:06.39NAiL~lart freedesktop.org for being down
17:11.23emteis it down or did tehy change locations again?
17:12.01pb_NAiL: it should be back soon
17:12.45NAiLpb_: ok cool
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17:17.10kraptorit's safe to Ctrl-C while bitbake works?
17:17.37NAiLup again :D
17:18.28kraptor:/
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17:21.06CIA-703koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4deea3a6... 10/: packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.12-hh3.bb: use defconfig from CVS
17:21.07emtekraptor, yes
17:22.38kraptoremte: k, was getting errors compiling and I thought it could be that
17:23.42NAiLkoen: ping?
17:23.59koenpong
17:24.30NAiLJust tried compiling hal, but that depends on dbus >= 0.33. Latest in oe that compiles appears to be 0.23.4?
17:24.56koenI built 0.50 this afternoon
17:25.31NAiLany reason for the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE, ror should it just be removed?
17:26.04koenin .23.4?
17:26.08NAiL.05
17:26.11NAiL.50
17:26.57koenI think that can be removed, it was there to force 0.23.4 to get built
17:27.22koenI locked that down in a freeze file for the distro's I'm interested in
17:27.31NAiLaha
17:27.40NAiLI'm trying it now
17:28.14koennote that hal-device-manager RDEPENDS on gnome-python which isn't in OE yet
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18:05.41kraptorbye!
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18:35.27chris144|homegood ev folks
18:35.53MP0hmm... I made task-bootstrap... where'd the image go?
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18:37.24chris144|homeMP0: to tmp/deploy/images
18:37.26MP0hmm... it didn't make a dploy/image directory :-(
18:37.50chris144|homeMP0: did you specify a tmp dir in your conf file?
18:38.10MP0no, I just let it make one in the build directory I was in
18:38.36MP0ie, the default tmpdir
18:39.17chris144|homeMP0: check your local.con file. It has a TMPDIR variable. deploy/images is created below that dir.
18:39.34chris144|homeMP0: ..local.conf
18:40.28MP0like I said, I didn't set the TMPDIR var so it made a tmp under my build directory... which is fine
18:40.35MP0I have a tmp/deploy/ipk
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18:40.40MP0but not tmp/deploy/images
18:41.02chris144|homeMP0: ok, so the build didnt create an image.
18:41.13MP0task-bootstrap doesn't create an image?
18:41.22zeckeMP0: right
18:41.32chris144|homeMP0: it is bootstrap-image
18:41.34zeckeMP0: if image in name:
18:41.40MP0... oh.
18:42.01MP0ok, so I have to make bootstrap-image
18:42.15chris144|homeMP0: don't worry. I started off like you... :-)
18:42.18MP0I assume from there I mount the image over NFS (already doing that with another image from uclib.com)
18:42.30MP0And then presumably it has an ipk installer
18:42.42MP0so I can build ipk's and then install them on the device... is that the process?
18:42.45zeckeMP0: well, you will have a tmp/rootfs
18:43.00zeckeMP0: but depending on your configuration you will end up with a flashable jffs2 image
18:43.22MP0ok... I'm just curious about the process for then getting the ipk's installed
18:44.02MP0I assume that the "bootstrap" then lets me install ipk's
18:49.25MP0may I ask why bitbake rebuilds stuff it's already built?
18:50.03zeckeMP0: well it 'thinks' it is newer?
18:50.05kergothit doesnt.  if theres a newer version of something available that it hasnt built, and it prefers the newer version, then it builds the newer version
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18:51.00MP0I haven't updated my openembedded distro so there really shouldn't be anything newer
18:51.27kergoththere are cvs builds that use a floating checkout date unless you specify otherwise.
18:51.29kergothset CVSDATE
18:51.39MP0k, thanks
18:52.05MP0what's the format? CVSDATE=10042005?
18:52.13MP0and it's in the local.conf?
18:52.18kergoth20051004
18:55.13MP0ok, that should save me a lot of trouble... it kept rebuilding the compiler toolchain every time I bitbaked
19:02.03pb_it shouldn't do that; the compiler doesn't have a floating version.
19:04.34MP0k
19:05.05MP0I'll leave it on overnight and see if my disk space isn't 100% in the morning :-)
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19:13.22Hrw|huskyhi
19:13.54Hrw|huskyzecke: ping
19:16.01Hrw|huskyibot: ping
19:16.02ibotpong
19:16.14reenoo_workHrw|husky: http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/familiar/current/29114.html <- have you guys removed bluetooth support from opie-image?
19:16.40Hrw|huskyreenoo: iirc i fixed it
19:17.06reenoo_workwell. koen built that image yesterday
19:17.11Hrw|huskythere was a moment (~day) where it was not there
19:17.33koen|tvdon't you know opie only needs pim?
19:17.43Hrw|huskyhmm.. can you bugreport it and asssssign to me? Ill look into it tomorrow
19:17.48koen|tveverything else if bloat, fluff and more TT fud
19:17.59reenoo_workHrw|husky: will do. thanks
19:19.06Hrw|huskyin meta-opie.bb task-opie-base has bluez-utils-nodbus iirc
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19:22.41Hrw|huskykoen: does viewmtn works on ewi?
19:23.29koen|tvyes, but mod_python caching gets in the way sometimes
19:23.59Hrw|huskyah. ok then
19:24.22zeckeHrw|husky: pong
19:24.29zeckeHrw|husky: can you reach opie-bugs.oszine.de?
19:24.36Hrw|huskyzecke: nope
19:24.49Hrw|huskyzecke: 1701 bug?
19:24.49zeckeHrw|husky: what was your question?
19:25.14Hrw|huskyzecke: just wanted to remind 1701....
19:25.15zeckeHrw|husky: yes
19:25.24zeckeHrw|husky: do you have the patch handy?
19:25.32Hrw|huskyno
19:25.39reenoo_workHrw|husky: Bug #369 (http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369)
19:25.52Hrw|huskythx reenoo
19:25.57zeckeHrw|husky: ar_ is currently not only, any other stuff I promised to commit?
19:26.26Hrw|huskyzecke: nothing i know about
19:26.46Hrw|huskyzecke: opie lack alt-tab switching :(
19:27.28zeckeHrw|husky: hehe (the ROAD device has it...)
19:27.47zeckeHrw|husky: actually you want expose and not alt tab
19:27.58koen|tvf9 rules
19:28.13zeckekoen|tv: lower right corner as well
19:28.25zeckekoen|tv: and f10 == lower left corner
19:28.27koen|tvupper left over here :)
19:28.38zeckethat is the dashboard
19:28.52koen|tvkonfabulator rule
19:28.54koen|tvs
19:28.58zecke<PROTECTED>
19:29.06zeckekoen|tv: I don't know that KDE application?!
19:29.21koen|tvheh
19:29.37koen|tvhttp://konfabulator.com/
19:31.22zeckenice hint
19:31.31zeckeAl is happy with the Tiger-Gotchi
19:32.13koen|tvmy girlfriend is playing with sudoku dashboard widget all the time
19:33.26zeckepb_: do you think it would be possible to build the XServer (kdrive/Xipaq) as a library
19:36.53Hrw|huskycu - thats enough of zaurus usage today
19:43.18pb_zecke: sure.  why would you want to, though?
19:46.13CIA-703koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r59433b52... 10/: conf/machine/h2200.conf: add back the kernel to the rootfs
19:46.13zeckepb_: to obsolete QtE
19:46.43zeckepb_: did someone do that already?
19:46.45reenoo_workheh
19:46.55pb_zecke: not that I know of, but it shouldn't be difficult
19:47.36zeckepb_: The Argument is. With QtE the main application is instantly available and does not need to wait for the Xserver to start
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21:30.30zeckegood nitre
21:31.24emtenight
21:34.17pb_zecke: good nitre
21:34.50zeckelol my cat ones to play with the MAX232...
21:40.23emtehope its leadfree
21:41.01zeckeemte: well actually it bites in the wires connected to it, and he wants to throw it to the floor...
21:41.10zeckelike everything small that can be dropped...
21:41.26zeckethis house is full of mentally disturbed charachters
21:41.47zeckeokay I might be offline until friday
21:42.39koenthat's the time you'll buy food for your cat?
21:42.55CIA-703koen 07org.oe.dev * r3181a893... 10/: packages/h2200-bootloader/h2200-bootloader.bb: add firmware extractor for the iPAQ h2200
21:43.29zeckekoen: do they need any?
21:43.34zeckeoh Titeuf was online
21:55.25alan|cookinggood night folks
21:55.50koen'night alan|cooking
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22:58.24reenoo_work'night all
23:01.46koen'night all

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